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moderated Re: more gmail questions

Madison Martin
 

Yes, I have a tone of messages in my old inbox, hopefully someone else has another idea!! I did see a button the gmail site that said import mail and contacts, but my contacts still seem to show up so I wasn’t sure if clicking on that button would be a good idea or not.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: January 22, 2021 1:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more gmail questions

 

Madison,

          Someone else will have to advise on importing your existing messages from your old email into the Gmail account.  The only way I know of to do this is forwarding them, and if the archive is extensive that's just not practical.  I generally do what you said, and that's keep the old account dormant, forwarding all new messages to where I want them to be, but having the archive of existing messages available for my reference when I might need to do that.  It keeps my new account "cleaner" from the outset.

            When you delete a message from any account and it goes into trash it will retain the same read/unread status it had at the moment of deletion.  In the end, that really doesn't matter, as trash gets purged of messages that reach 30 days old regardless of their read or unread status.  Outlook does allow you to change how quickly a message is marked as read once you open it (and you do have to open it), but if the intention is not to open these messages, which I'd have to presume it is, then just delete them in unread state and forget about them.  Trash is trash.

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           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: more gmail questions

 

Madison,

          Someone else will have to advise on importing your existing messages from your old email into the Gmail account.  The only way I know of to do this is forwarding them, and if the archive is extensive that's just not practical.  I generally do what you said, and that's keep the old account dormant, forwarding all new messages to where I want them to be, but having the archive of existing messages available for my reference when I might need to do that.  It keeps my new account "cleaner" from the outset.

            When you delete a message from any account and it goes into trash it will retain the same read/unread status it had at the moment of deletion.  In the end, that really doesn't matter, as trash gets purged of messages that reach 30 days old regardless of their read or unread status.  Outlook does allow you to change how quickly a message is marked as read once you open it (and you do have to open it), but if the intention is not to open these messages, which I'd have to presume it is, then just delete them in unread state and forget about them.  Trash is trash.

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moderated Re: amazon music app?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi William!

 

As someone else said, there are no scripts for the app.  To be clear, it is the Windows desktop app that we are talking about.  Without going into the details, it is the best of the various app versions (e.g., Android, IOS, web, Fire TV, etc.) to be scripted.  I have both written to and spoken with Amazon about the app’s woefully inaccessible nature, for whatever that’s worth.  I have zero expectation that they will do anything about it.

 

I have promoted on both this list and the “JAWS Scripts” list the idea of a crowd effort to script the app.  Sadly, there does not seem much interest.

 

Best,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Vandervest
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 8:44 PM
To: JFW@groups. io <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: amazon music app?

 

Is there a jaws script for the amazon music app for pc?

If so, can someone please post a link to download it.

thanks

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

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moderated more gmail questions

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
Sorry to keep asking you guys about this stuff, but now that I've added my gmail
account to Outlook and disabled forwarding, is there a way to move all of my old
emails from my mts inbox to my gmail one? I know I could just go to my old inbox
if needed, but if I'm truly going to switch email addresses then I'd like to
have all my emails in one place. Also, once I delete a message from my gmail
inbox it still shows up as unread in my trash, can I change that? Thanks for
your patience!!!
Madison


moderated Re: amazon music app?

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

No their isn't. The desktop app needs one.

On 1/21/2021 11:43 PM, William Vandervest wrote:

Is there a jaws script for the amazon music app for pc?

If so, can someone please post a link to download it.

thanks

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 


moderated Re: Navigation of Settings in new MS Edge

Mike B.
 

Hi Robin,
 
Here's how I get to many more features to change settings for all kinds of things.
1. With Edge open press, Alt + F, to open the menu and press the letter, S, to open settings.
 
2. When Settings opens you should land on a search field, press enter to open the search field, if it isn't open, and and type the word, more.
 
3. Tab a couple of times to navigation region Profiles, and downarrow to find...
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 8:42 PM
Subject: Navigation of Settings in new MS Edge

I’m stuck on navigating the settings area of MS Edge.  Once I’ve opened settings with Alt F and arrowing up to Settings, I know a new page loads.  I cannot figure out how to get focus to the left area where there are different sections for setting options.  I’ve tried tabbing F6, and using the JAWS cursor, but I’m not figuring this out.  I was trying to get to the section where you change the startup page options.  Can someone enlighten me?  Using JAWS 2021 and Microsoft Edge Version 87.0.664.60.

 

 

 

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Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 




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moderated Re: question on output ona Focus 40 Braille Display

Cohn, Jonathan
 

The grade and language of Braille is controlled by the screen reader. In JAWS open options braille and set it there. In NVDA there is a braille area in the settings dialog. 
MAKE sure to look at both input and output settings.


On Jan 21, 2021, at 9:18 PM, Jeff Lukacsena <jlukacsena@...> wrote:



Hello List,

I am running the newest version of Jaws 2021.527

I have a Focus 40 Braille display on a Windows 10 laptop.

Does anyone know how to switch the Braille output on the display from grade 1 Braille to grade 2 Braille?

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena,

Pittsburgh, PA


moderated Re: Navigation of Settings in new MS Edge

 

Let's try that again, since the link I had isn't going straight to the message with the step-by-step instructions, but it should now:

Chromium-based Edge: Setting Home Page, Default Opening Page(s), and Search Engine
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Navigation of Settings in new MS Edge

 

Chromium-based Edge: Setting Home Page, Default Opening Page(s), and Search Engine
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated amazon music app?

William Vandervest
 

Is there a jaws script for the amazon music app for pc?

If so, can someone please post a link to download it.

thanks

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 


moderated Navigation of Settings in new MS Edge

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’m stuck on navigating the settings area of MS Edge.  Once I’ve opened settings with Alt F and arrowing up to Settings, I know a new page loads.  I cannot figure out how to get focus to the left area where there are different sections for setting options.  I’ve tried tabbing F6, and using the JAWS cursor, but I’m not figuring this out.  I was trying to get to the section where you change the startup page options.  Can someone enlighten me?  Using JAWS 2021 and Microsoft Edge Version 87.0.664.60.

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 




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This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

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moderated Re: buttons on web pages

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi,

 

I have experienced the same issue with my doctor’s patient portal and MetroFax website. They both allow you to fill out the form fields but don’t even try to submit the information. I have tried everything except a hammer but to no avail. However, I did complain to MetroFax and it was determined it was a problem on their side. So, your problem may be on the source side and not you.


moderated Re: buttons on web pages

Tammy Freitag
 

Chris,

It is nice to know it isn’t just me.  Hahaha!

Thanks!

Take care!

Tammy

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: buttons on web pages

 

 

I ran into the same problem yesterday when completing a report on a site for work. I also had a few radio buttons that Jaws would not select no matter what I tried.

 

I finally just temporarily turned off Jaws and turned on Narrator to do those few task.

Since Narrator did the task without a problem, that told me that the problem is with Jaws. At least thats the case with the problems that I was having.

 

Chris

 



On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Tammy Freitag <ms.sunflower61@...> wrote:



Ok, I am baffled.  I was filling out a form on a web site.  I successfully completed the form and could not activate the button to submit the form.  I am finding this to be a big headache on other sites I use.  I am running JFW2020.  I tried using the spacebar, enter and even left click.  No luck!  Does anybody have any suggestions how to make clicking buttons work?

Thanks!

Tammy

 

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moderated Re: Interesting Microsoft Word Issue

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

Tom,
I was just poking some fun at you and apologize for my warped sense of humor.
Heaven knos how many times I have made a similar “OOPS” in a post.
Marie
 
 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Interesting Microsoft Word Issue
 

Marie:

 

Sorry for the confusion.

 

I mis-stated my original action.

 

When I hit control end to get to the bottom of the document, and then hit insert numpad 3,  I can no longer get information about the file, such as number of pages, etc..

 

When I do this, I now hear focus, zoom in, zoom out, zoom 100%..

 

Does anyone know what might have changed here, and how I can get my original document file information back?

 

I’m using Jaws 2021, Windows 10, and Office 365 here.

 

I wonder if this is the result of yet another Microsoft 365 update?

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Interesting Microsoft Word Issue

 

Ctrl Home takes you to the top of the documentnot the end.

 

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:41 AM

To: jfw list

Subject: Interesting Microsoft Word Issue

 

Hello.

 

I’ve just noticed that after hitting control home to get to the bottom of a Microsoft Word file, and then hitting insert numpad 3,  I can no longer get information about the file, such as number of pages, etc..

 

When I do this, I now hear focus, zoom in, zoom out, zoom 100%..

 

Does anyone know what might have changed here, and how I can get my original document file information back?

 

I’m using Jaws 2021, Windows 10, and Office 365 here.

 

I wonder if this is the result of yet another Microsoft 365 update?

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 


moderated Re: J2021.2012.57.400-any installation problems & questions!

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 01:09 PM 1/21/2021, Shan Noyes wrote:
First I've reached out to Vispero support and asked my questions.
Unfortunately am attending a summit so can't place a phone call to
them til Monday.
Has anyone experienced problems with the J2021.2012.57.400-any that
was published Tuesday?
I grabbed it yesterday and installed it last night. I had the early
January jaws 2021 running successfully on my system.
Anyways, after installing it I rebooted and now jaws2021 will not run.
So I started the J2021.2012.57.400-any again and it immediately said
that it needed to run a repair. So I did. But it comes back
immediately and crashes.
Yes, I'm working on an account that has admin rights on my system.
So looking for things I can do to get the repair working etc. or
things I can try while waiting for Monday so I can talk to Vispero support.
This happened to me when I grabbed that build. Yes, there are things you can try, but none are easy or pretty. First, try to uninstall all the dozen Freedom Scientific components via Add/Remove Programs, Apps and Features or a third-party app such as CCleaner. If you get errors, download Microsoft's Program Install/Uninstall troubleshooter. When you run it, select advanced mode and check the automatic repairs check box. Then, select Uninstall rather than Install, although this doesn't matter because you'll be presented with the same applications list. When the list populates, use first-letter navigation to locate the first Freedom Scientific, then select Try Uninstall. This can unfortunately only be done one application or component at a time because the troubleshooter closes after it tries to uninstall whatever you've chosen. So, keep a File explorer window open with the executable because you'll be running the same sequence around a dozen times.
This will hopefully go off without removal errors. when all the Freedom Scientific Components are uninstalled, reboot, then manually delete all Freedom Scientific directories everywhere except your user profile, Appdata, Roaming. This includes Program Files, Program Files (x86) and Program Data. Then, run Regedit and search either for Freedom Scientific or JAWS and remove all the major keys under Software for User and Local Machine. Then, keep searching and remove all entries that include Freedom Scientific or JAWS.
Finally, uninstall all the Microsoft Visual C++ runtime executables using Add/Remove programs in the control panel. Microsoft makes a command-line utility that will do this, but it then tries to reinstall all 18 components, which, in this case, defeats the purpose. They must be uninstalled so that JAWS doesn't find them when attempting to install. Those components are the likeliest source of your repair and installation errors.
Like I said, none of this is pretty. If you follow all these directions and call Vispero tech support, they'll likely tell you that you've done your entire due diligence and there's nothing left to do but escalate your case. You may then get a return call from a certain person on the escalation team who will chastise you for having "messed around" with registry settings rather than just call them. ignore this. Hopefully, at the end of this arduous journey, you'll get the new JAWS build installed without having to torture yourself with Vispero tech support. There is absolutely no need for Vispero's products to require such intensive troubleshooting to install or uninstall builds. Their tech support are poorly trained in dealing with this problem and their development team obviously hasn't considered it enough of a priority to fix the problems once and for all.
All the above procedures are necessary because the Freedom Scientific components are incorrectly removed and updated when you install the new build over your existing installation. Even though this is happening to hundreds or thousands of users, Vispero claims it cannot reproduce the problem. Well, we've been reproducing it around the globe.
Anyway, do let me know how you get on. Rest assured, there's light at the end of this tunnel. the latest build is very snappy and more responsive than the previous 2021 releases, so it's worth some trouble.
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Charlotte, North Carolina
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
Ph.D. in Music theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090


moderated Re: question on output ona Focus 40 Braille Display

Randy Meyer
 

Jeff:

 

Chord dots 1,2,3,4,7, meaning press all six keys at once and release: spacebar,1,2,3,4,7

 

This turns contracted Braille on and off.  You will cycling between three settings: contracted Braille off, contracted Braille on for display, and contracted Braille on for input, this last setting means your input and output are both in contracted Braille.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question on output ona Focus 40 Braille Display

 

Hello List,

I am running the newest version of Jaws 2021.527

I have a Focus 40 Braille display on a Windows 10 laptop.

Does anyone know how to switch the Braille output on the display from grade 1 Braille to grade 2 Braille?

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena,

Pittsburgh, PA


moderated Re: punctuation when reading by word

Mike B.
 

Hi Andrew,
 
This can be changed in Quick Settings of an application, Jaws key + V, or in the, Settings Center default all applications, Jaws key + 6, then, control, shift + D.
 
In the search field type, punctuation, and when  the results populate you want, Punctuation Level.
 
Press the spacebar on the Punctuation level to toggle through your options and for what you're looking for you want to stop when you hear Jaws report, All.
 
In Quick settings after making the change tab to Okay and press enter to save / close.
 
In the Settings Center after making the change tab to apply press the spacebar and tab to okay and press enter to save / close.
 
A hotkey can be assigned to toggle the punctuation settings on the fly, if you're interested.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:02 AM
Subject: punctuation when reading by word

What do I need to adjust, either in Jaws or other programs, to have Jaws read each word with its punctuation included?
If I type the following in Notepad:
We went to Washington, D. C. yesterday, and all was well.
When I read through the sentence by word, the commas and periods are treated as part of each word. This is what I want all the time.
If I write that same message in Microsoft Word, Jaws treats the punctuation as separate words when reading word by word.
In Ted Notepad, where I really want to work, the problem gets worse when writing out words with apostrophes followed by commas. Then you have to deal with three stops when reviewing by word. This makes it especially hard when writing any kind of code, because Jaws stops at every parenthesis and bracket.
Can someone help?
 


moderated question on output ona Focus 40 Braille Display

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hello List,

I am running the newest version of Jaws 2021.527

I have a Focus 40 Braille display on a Windows 10 laptop.

Does anyone know how to switch the Braille output on the display from grade 1 Braille to grade 2 Braille?

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena,

Pittsburgh, PA


moderated punctuation when reading by word

Andrew James Bontrager
 

What do I need to adjust, either in Jaws or other programs, to have Jaws read each word with its punctuation included?
If I type the following in Notepad:
We went to Washington, D. C. yesterday, and all was well.
When I read through the sentence by word, the commas and periods are treated as part of each word. This is what I want all the time.
If I write that same message in Microsoft Word, Jaws treats the punctuation as separate words when reading word by word.
In Ted Notepad, where I really want to work, the problem gets worse when writing out words with apostrophes followed by commas. Then you have to deal with three stops when reviewing by word. This makes it especially hard when writing any kind of code, because Jaws stops at every parenthesis and bracket.
Can someone help?
 


moderated Re: buttons on web pages

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

Ya kinda sad... I have been paying for Jaws for over 25yrs. No I don't want you to tell me how much that is! LOL But I am finding that the free alternatives are working more and more when Jaws won't. don't get me wrong I am not ready to switch. Having to relearn all the little tricks and work arounds for a new screen reader is daunting.

On 1/21/2021 4:11 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

I ran into the same problem yesterday when completing a report on a site for work. I also had a few radio buttons that Jaws would not select no matter what I tried.

I finally just temporarily turned off Jaws and turned on Narrator to do those few task.
Since Narrator did the task without a problem, that told me that the problem is with Jaws. At least thats the case with the problems that I was having.

Chris


On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Tammy Freitag <ms.sunflower61@...> wrote:



Ok, I am baffled.  I was filling out a form on a web site.  I successfully completed the form and could not activate the button to submit the form.  I am finding this to be a big headache on other sites I use.  I am running JFW2020.  I tried using the spacebar, enter and even left click.  No luck!  Does anybody have any suggestions how to make clicking buttons work?

Thanks!

Tammy


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