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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Brad Martin via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

If Outlook 2010 is your default mail program, clicking a link to an Email address from Firefox will behave exactly as clicking on that link from IE. This is a system behavior, not a browser dependent integration. Thus, the same can be said if you use Thunderbird as your default mail handler, but you use IE as your default browser. In this instance, IE would cause Thunderbird to open in a new message.

Brad Martin
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On 5/18/2014 1:16 PM, Jeff M. via Jfw wrote:
I would like to know, will Firefox integrate into Outlook 2010 in the same
way that IE does? In other words, if I click on an email address in a web
page, will outlook turn on and start creating a new message?
Thanks
jeff

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:35 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to switch
from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as Firefox, in light
of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to Firefox, and would like to
know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic internet
navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does with
Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work with
Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

john.falter via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Hi JAWS users:
While the major IE security breechwas recently patched, it's worth remembering that FireFox allows use of WebVisum for solving CAPTCHAs as well as other visual functions.


On 5/18/2014 9:27 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Steve:

My University actually is on Windows 7, and IE 11.

Because they experienced a major security breech earlier this year, I think
they are a bit paranoid.

Dr. Tom Behler


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Firefox and Internet Explorer are virtually interoperable with JAWS.

The bigger question is, on what operating system are you running IE that
your university suspects security problems? In fact, Microsoft just released
some security-fix patches this past week for IE version
11 on Windows 7, which makes me think your college is still on XP, or an
older version (perhaps 9?) of Internet Explorer.

On Sun, 18 May 2014 11:34:32 -0400, you wrote:

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to
switch from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as
Firefox, in light of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like
to know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic
internet navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does
with Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work
with Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Brad Martin via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Alt D works too. If you're comfortable with it, stay with it. Alt D specifically highlights the address bar, and truthfully, so does Control L in both browsers. Most of us just learned Control O to open a website in IE back when no other browsers were accessible, so that's what we stick with. It doesn't take you to the address bar; instead, it opens a dialog for you to either enter an address or file location, or browse to a file on your computer. If you like what you're doing, keep doing it.

Brad Martin
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On 5/18/2014 5:52 PM, Marsha via Jfw wrote:
HI
I am sort of confused. I have always used Alt+D to go to the address bar in both IE and Firefox. What is the real command for doing this? What are the differences? Thanks for the help.

Marsha

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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Brad Martin via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

I didn't know that either until joining this list. As it turns out, you can use Control L in both FF and IE. It took me about two weeks to break twenty years of the Control O habit, but now I almost never goof. The reason for the difference is that in Firefox, Control O is to open a local file on your own computer, while control L opens a location on the Internet; Microsoft uses Control O for both functions.

Brad
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On 5/18/2014 4:52 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Thanks, Louise.

I didn't know there was a different command for opening web sites in
Firefox, as compared to Internet Explorer, so this is very helpful indeed.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Louise Johnson
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hi I use Firefox and I find it better but I am a newer user to the internet.
I used internet explorer about six months and I just didn't figure it out
and didn't find it easy all the time. I have windows 8.1 and at that time
jaws 14. When someone suggested trying Firefox I have found it better.
Adding favorites are easier and one thing to open use control l instead of
control o. I now have updated to jaws 15 and Firefox does most things but
once and awhile I do use internet explorer. Hope this helps but it is always
up to the person and others may say I am wrong but I find Firefox what I
prefer. From Louise and Hawk

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: May 18, 2014 8:35 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to switch
from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as Firefox, in light
of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like to
know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic internet
navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does with
Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work with
Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

Brad Martin via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

I was going to reply to Tom offlist, but since this list now only shows the list's email address in the from field, I can't see Tom's address. Sorry to the rest of you for what will be an off-topic post, but I see no way around it.

Tom, when I wanted to try out NVDA, the first thing I did is insert a blank Flash drive and create a portable copy. That way I could try it out without installing it or making any permanent changes to my system. I played with the configuration options on the portable copy, and got everything the way that I wanted it, and then saved those configuration options. Then I could install it onto a system where I don't have JAWS and bring all of my configuration changes with me. I still prefer JAWS for the most part, but on my laptop I use NVDA because it's free and I can use it legally. Hope this helps.

Brad
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On 5/18/2014 2:09 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Dan:

I actually have considered NVDA as another alternative, so I appreciate this
suggestion.

Since it is also free, I may give it a try as well, perhaps on a computer
that I don't use too frequently at least for the time being.

Tom Behler


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dan Kerstetter
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws To Window Eyes

Tom,

As a general rule, there is no conflict between screen readers. They merely
reside in the computer.

Also, after years of working with various screen readers, might I suggest
NVDA. Unfortunately eloquence cannot be used with it, but the Microsoft
voices aren't too bad.

I have tried several times over the years to really get into window eyes,
including the latest version with MS Office. I've found its control panel
to be confusing. Also, I find it to be a little clunky on the web.

That's just my two cents based on experience. Others here may feel
differently.

HTH

Dan


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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:41 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Jaws To Window Eyes

Hello, again.

In an attempt to have an alternative to Jaws, I'm seriously considering
putting Window Eyes on at least one computer here.

However, I have heard from several sources that having two screen readers on
the same computer can create real issues, if things are not done properly.

Also, can I configure Window Eyes to work with Elloquence, which is what
Jaws currently uses?

Finally, I'd like to know how much of a learning curve is going to be
involved with learning to use Window Eyes, especially since I have been a
Jaws user for about the last 20 years.

My time to learn a new speech screen reader is limited, although I will
certainly try to do so if it would be in my best interest.

If this post is considered to be "off topic" for this list, I want to
apologize in advance to the moderator and other list members. I simply
don't know where else to ask this question, given the various e-mail lists
to which I belong.

Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Brad Martin via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

I would second this response. I made the move to Firefox for almost the exact same reasons you're considering it, although my work didn't require it. In truth, when I got Windows 7, I planned to use Internet Explorer, until I got autoupgraded to IE 11, and things didn't always work the way I wanted them to. So I gave Firefox a second look. (I've had it for years but rarely used it.) With a few exceptions, I can't tell the difference. Often I have to press Insert Q so JAWS will tell me which program I'm in. I have a tax software product that will only work (for anyone) in IE, and there are two or three sites which, for some unknown reason, crash my computer at home in Firefox. (I don't have that problem at work, so it's a unique issue.) But for the most part, I'd say I use Firefox 99% of the time now, and although I remember a few things being different at first, I honestly can't remember what they are any more. It wasn't a steep learning curve at all.

Brad

On 5/18/2014 1:02 PM, JM Casey via Jfw wrote:
Jaws will almost work the same, except you'll have to turn the hardware acceleration off if you want the Jaws cursor to work. Otherwise, the browser's own command structure is a little different, but you'll get used to it in no time.

Of course, iE will still be on your machine and you can still use it if you get stuck. I use both myself; IE seems to work better with a few things but chances are that if you have a problem with a page in IE it will work in FIrefox.


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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:34 AM
Subject: Internet Explorer To Firefox


Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to switch
from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as Firefox, in light
of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like to
know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic internet
navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does with
Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work with
Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Steve:

My University actually is on Windows 7, and IE 11.

Because they experienced a major security breech earlier this year, I think
they are a bit paranoid.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Firefox and Internet Explorer are virtually interoperable with JAWS.

The bigger question is, on what operating system are you running IE that
your university suspects security problems? In fact, Microsoft just released
some security-fix patches this past week for IE version
11 on Windows 7, which makes me think your college is still on XP, or an
older version (perhaps 9?) of Internet Explorer.

On Sun, 18 May 2014 11:34:32 -0400, you wrote:

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to
switch from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as
Firefox, in light of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like
to know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic
internet navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does
with Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work
with Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Steve Matzura via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Firefox and Internet Explorer are virtually interoperable with JAWS.

The bigger question is, on what operating system are you running IE
that your university suspects security problems? In fact, Microsoft
just released some security-fix patches this past week for IE version
11 on Windows 7, which makes me think your college is still on XP, or
an older version (perhaps 9?) of Internet Explorer.

On Sun, 18 May 2014 11:34:32 -0400, you wrote:

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to switch
from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as Firefox, in light
of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like to
know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic internet
navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does with
Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work with
Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: One More Time

Cristóbal via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

I rarely do this, but I did in fact burn a couple of cds last month. From
what I recall, you have to first create a playlist and once created, go to
that list and you can burn it once selected.

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Wollenweber via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:53 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: One More Time

Okay, I'm going to ask again-how does any blind person deal with ITunes?
I'd like to burn a playlist to disk, but I can't seem to bring up the
playlist in question to burn.



Anyone who can help me with this on or off this list, I'd appreciate help!!



Kevin Wollenweber

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One More Time

Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Okay, I'm going to ask again-how does any blind person deal with ITunes?
I'd like to burn a playlist to disk, but I can't seem to bring up the
playlist in question to burn.



Anyone who can help me with this on or off this list, I'd appreciate help!!



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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Will certainly do that. ... Thanks!

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Check out JAWS help, popular applications with JAWS, Mozilla firefox.
At 04:52 PM 5/18/2014, you wrote:
Thanks, Louise.

I didn't know there was a different command for opening web sites in
Firefox, as compared to Internet Explorer, so this is very helpful indeed.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Louise
Johnson via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hi I use Firefox and I find it better but I am a newer user to the
internet.
I used internet explorer about six months and I just didn't figure it
out and didn't find it easy all the time. I have windows 8.1 and at
that time jaws 14. When someone suggested trying Firefox I have found it
better.
Adding favorites are easier and one thing to open use control l instead
of control o. I now have updated to jaws 15 and Firefox does most
things but once and awhile I do use internet explorer. Hope this helps
but it is always up to the person and others may say I am wrong but I
find Firefox what I prefer. From Louise and Hawk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler via Jfw
Sent: May 18, 2014 8:35 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to
switch from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as
Firefox, in light of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like
to know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic
internet navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does
with Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work
with Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Makes sense, Petro. ... Thanks!

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Petro T.
Giannakopoulos via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

The reason is the audio tutorials I listened to are using the default layout
so it makes it easier to follow.



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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws To Window Eyes


Petro:

Thanks so much for this very helpful information.

I do have one question, though:

Can you tell me why you decided to use the default lay-out rather than the
Jaws lay-out for Window Eyes?

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Petro T.
Giannakopoulos via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

Window-Eyes Tutorials
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/

Two or more screen readers can exist on the same computer but you should
make Window-Eyes during the install to be set to not start up nor at the log
on screen. Checkboxes for these two should be unchecked so you will not have
two screen readers boot up at the same time. Look for the tutorial on how to
do a Window-Eyes custom installation.

Yes, you can use Eloquence synthesizer with Window-Eyes.

I strongly recommend reading the tutorials or listening to the MP3s on how
to use Window-Eyes first.

Key hotkeys,
ctrl-/ brings up the Window-Eyes control panel
ctrl-insert-F4 allows you shut down window-eyes insert=-t for the time
ctrl-shift-t for the title bar ctrl-shift-r for read to end of document
ctrl-shift-w read dialog ctrl-shift-s summary message, use while in a list
view for example


It will take time to learn this screen reader. They have a JAWS layout but I
am using the default layout.

I have been using this screen reader for two days now but if it were not for
the audio tutorials I would have not done so.

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From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:41 AM
Subject: Jaws To Window Eyes


Hello, again.

In an attempt to have an alternative to Jaws, I'm seriously considering
putting Window Eyes on at least one computer here.

However, I have heard from several sources that having two screen readers on
the same computer can create real issues, if things are not done properly.

Also, can I configure Window Eyes to work with Elloquence, which is what
Jaws currently uses?

Finally, I'd like to know how much of a learning curve is going to be
involved with learning to use Window Eyes, especially since I have been a
Jaws user for about the last 20 years.

My time to learn a new speech screen reader is limited, although I will
certainly try to do so if it would be in my best interest.

If this post is considered to be "off topic" for this list, I want to
apologize in advance to the moderator and other list members. I simply
don't know where else to ask this question, given the various e-mail lists
to which I belong.

Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Anna Byrne via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Check out JAWS help, popular applications with JAWS, Mozilla firefox.

At 04:52 PM 5/18/2014, you wrote:
Thanks, Louise.

I didn't know there was a different command for opening web sites in
Firefox, as compared to Internet Explorer, so this is very helpful indeed.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Louise Johnson
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hi I use Firefox and I find it better but I am a newer user to the internet.
I used internet explorer about six months and I just didn't figure it out
and didn't find it easy all the time. I have windows 8.1 and at that time
jaws 14. When someone suggested trying Firefox I have found it better.
Adding favorites are easier and one thing to open use control l instead of
control o. I now have updated to jaws 15 and Firefox does most things but
once and awhile I do use internet explorer. Hope this helps but it is always
up to the person and others may say I am wrong but I find Firefox what I
prefer. From Louise and Hawk

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Subject: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to switch
from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as Firefox, in light
of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like to
know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic internet
navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does with
Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work with
Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

Petro T. Giannakopoulos via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

The reason is the audio tutorials I listened to are using the default layout
so it makes it easier to follow.

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws To Window Eyes


Petro:

Thanks so much for this very helpful information.

I do have one question, though:

Can you tell me why you decided to use the default lay-out rather than the
Jaws lay-out for Window Eyes?

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Giannakopoulos via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

Window-Eyes Tutorials
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/

Two or more screen readers can exist on the same computer but you should
make Window-Eyes during the install to be set to not start up nor at the log
on screen. Checkboxes for these two should be unchecked so you will not have
two screen readers boot up at the same time. Look for the tutorial on how to
do a Window-Eyes custom installation.

Yes, you can use Eloquence synthesizer with Window-Eyes.

I strongly recommend reading the tutorials or listening to the MP3s on how
to use Window-Eyes first.

Key hotkeys,
ctrl-/ brings up the Window-Eyes control panel
ctrl-insert-F4 allows you shut down window-eyes insert=-t for the time
ctrl-shift-t for the title bar ctrl-shift-r for read to end of document
ctrl-shift-w read dialog ctrl-shift-s summary message, use while in a list
view for example


It will take time to learn this screen reader. They have a JAWS layout but I
am using the default layout.

I have been using this screen reader for two days now but if it were not for
the audio tutorials I would have not done so.

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:41 AM
Subject: Jaws To Window Eyes


Hello, again.

In an attempt to have an alternative to Jaws, I'm seriously considering
putting Window Eyes on at least one computer here.

However, I have heard from several sources that having two screen readers on
the same computer can create real issues, if things are not done properly.

Also, can I configure Window Eyes to work with Elloquence, which is what
Jaws currently uses?

Finally, I'd like to know how much of a learning curve is going to be
involved with learning to use Window Eyes, especially since I have been a
Jaws user for about the last 20 years.

My time to learn a new speech screen reader is limited, although I will
certainly try to do so if it would be in my best interest.

If this post is considered to be "off topic" for this list, I want to
apologize in advance to the moderator and other list members. I simply
don't know where else to ask this question, given the various e-mail lists
to which I belong.

Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Transferring Sound Schemes

Mike B. via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Hi Again,

Below are some steps for transferring sound schemes if anyone else is
inclined to do so:

From: net bat66
you would have to copy some registry keys.

http://www.faqforge.com/windows/export-and-import-sound-schemes-on-windows-7/


Export and Import Sound Schemes on Windows 7

Importing and exporting whole sound schemes becomes handy if you want to
apply your schemes to different computers or setup your system anew and don't
want
to copy the whole Windows theme. Doing so proves trickier as one might think
though, since sound schemes are not saved as some kind of file or package
as one might think.

First off, to create a custom sound scheme, head to the Control Panel and
open the Hardware and Sound Options. In the Sound menu, click on Change
system
sounds. Leave the applied scheme as it is and instead change its components
by selecting one of the listed items and browsing for a new sound file,
which
has to be in the .wav format. For simplicity's sake, put all your custom
sound files into the C:\Windows\Media folder prior to setting them since
they
have to be in the exact same folder on the system you import them.

02/sounds

After you have applied new sounds for all the items you want to change,
click the Save as. button and give your scheme a name.

Afterwards, to export the scheme open the Windows registry - do so by
opening a Run. prompt (Windows + R) and entering regedit. In the left
registry panel,
browse for the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents key. Right-click it and select
Export to save its contents somewhere on your hard drive. Put the exported
registry
file and all the custom sound files you used on a USB key or another device
to transfer the files.

After you have got the registry file as well as the soundfiles you used on
the other system, put the sound files in the exact same folder as they were
on
the first system (if you followed this guide, it is C:\Windows\Media). Then
double-click the registry file to add the first system's sound scheme
settings
to the new one (schemes are only added, non will be removed if there were
custom schemes installed before). The sound scheme should now be available
in
the Control Panel.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. via Jfw
To: JFW List
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Transferring Sound Schemes


Hi All,

I'm setting up a new Win7 Pro computer running J13 latest &, would like to
know if it's possible to transfer a sound scheme from 1 Win7 Pro system to
another? If it's possible, how is it done? I truly hope this is possible
because doing major sound scheme changes in the Win7 system is a total pain
in the very lower back region! Ah, fooled y'all! I bet you thought i'd say
something nastier! LOL LOL

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated, & graciously accepted.
Thank y'all very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Marsha via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

HI
I am sort of confused. I have always used Alt+D to go to the address bar in both IE and Firefox. What is the real command for doing this? What are the differences? Thanks for the help.

Marsha


Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Thanks very much, J M.

I think I'll take the leap now and give Firefox a try.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

It is a part of firefox, yes. You can get to it with the options screen,
under the tools item in the menu bar. Find advanced settings/general and it
will be there.


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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer To Firefox


JM:

Am I correct in saying that the hardware acceleration feature is in
Firefox?

And, if so, how exactly do you turn that off?

Dr. Tom Behler




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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Jaws will almost work the same, except you'll have to turn the hardware
acceleration off if you want the Jaws cursor to work. Otherwise, the
browser's own command structure is a little different, but you'll get used
to it in no time.

Of course, iE will still be on your machine and you can still use it if
you
get stuck. I use both myself; IE seems to work better with a few things
but
chances are that if you have a problem with a page in IE it will work in
FIrefox.


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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:34 AM
Subject: Internet Explorer To Firefox


Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to switch
from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as Firefox, in
light
of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like to
know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic internet
navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does with
Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work with
Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Thanks, Louise.

I didn't know there was a different command for opening web sites in
Firefox, as compared to Internet Explorer, so this is very helpful indeed.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hi I use Firefox and I find it better but I am a newer user to the internet.
I used internet explorer about six months and I just didn't figure it out
and didn't find it easy all the time. I have windows 8.1 and at that time
jaws 14. When someone suggested trying Firefox I have found it better.
Adding favorites are easier and one thing to open use control l instead of
control o. I now have updated to jaws 15 and Firefox does most things but
once and awhile I do use internet explorer. Hope this helps but it is always
up to the person and others may say I am wrong but I find Firefox what I
prefer. From Louise and Hawk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: May 18, 2014 8:35 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Internet Explorer To Firefox

Hello, everyone.

The University where I teach is very strongly urging all of us to switch
from Internet Explorer to another internet browser such as Firefox, in light
of recent Internet Explorer security issues.

I'm seriously considering making the switch to firefox, and would like to
know how much of a transition this will be in terms of basic internet
navigation.

Does Jaws operate in basically the same way with Firefox as it does with
Internet Explorer?

In other words, to the same basic Jaws key strokes and commands work with
Firefox?

I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 14 here.

Thank you!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Transferring Sound Schemes

Mike B. via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Hi All,

I'm setting up a new Win7 Pro computer running J13 latest &, would like to
know if it's possible to transfer a sound scheme from 1 Win7 Pro system to
another? If it's possible, how is it done? I truly hope this is possible
because doing major sound scheme changes in the Win7 system is a total pain
in the very lower back region! Ah, fooled y'all! I bet you thought i'd say
something nastier! LOL LOL

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated, & graciously accepted.
Thank y'all very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: Jaws To Window Eyes

douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

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