Then I can type the first letter, or several letters if I want, and I'll get fairly close. Hope this helps.

 Londa,

           Is there a trick to getting several letters to work?   I have never been able, on any version of JAWS I've worked with, to get it to recognize the second through nth characters of a file name.  This would be so handy such that if you knew you had a file named file1.txt and file2.txt that you could type in file2 and have JAWS zoom right to the correct one.

           One of the reasons I've started teaching clients how to use Search Everything and the Copy-Paste technique of attaching files is because it's just far less tedious when they know enough of a file name to get search results that are either the single file or very few files, and those will be found anywhere they happen to be on the computer.  The amount of time saved with navigating via browsing when the files in question are nowhere near each other in the folder tree is huge.

Brian 

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@...> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@....

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link
as far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after
the rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the
language chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@...> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@....

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link
as far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after
the rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the
language chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@...> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@....

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link as
far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after the
rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the language
chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@...> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@....

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link as
far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after the
rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the language
chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.

Dear list,

I’m running the latest build of Jaws 16 and for the last 1.5 weeks seem to be having a lot of trouble with facebook jumping around. I’ll be reading and try to make a comment only to find myself at the top of the page. Anyone else experiencing this? going to upgrade to 17 soon to see if that fixes the problem. Thanks fo any help

Then I can type the first letter, or several letters if I want, and I'll get fairly close. Hope this helps.

 Londa,

           Is there a trick to getting several letters to work?   I have never been able, on any version of JAWS I've worked with, to get it to recognize the second through nth characters of a file name.  This would be so handy such that if you knew you had a file named file1.txt and file2.txt that you could type in file2 and have JAWS zoom right to the correct one.

           One of the reasons I've started teaching clients how to use Search Everything and the Copy-Paste technique of attaching files is because it's just far less tedious when they know enough of a file name to get search results that are either the single file or very few files, and those will be found anywhere they happen to be on the computer.  The amount of time saved with navigating via browsing when the files in question are nowhere near each other in the folder tree is huge.

Brian 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Stopping email from the list

Kimsan,

          Unless I'm mistaken, it sounds like you're trying to gain access to the online forum via clicking a link in the e-mail digest.  I really can't speak to that since I stopped getting the e-mail digests long ago.  Since the original poster mentioned "continue access to the site" that makes me think that he is accessing everything through the forums website, not the digest.

          From earlier threads, I think that if your sole access has been via the e-mail digest before the advent of the forums website, you will have to set up a password for the website when you first attempt to access it.  I cannot say exactly what's going to pop-up on your first login attempt since it's been too long since I did mine.  That being said, I'm going to attempt to step-by-step you to logging in to the site to find the options I've spoken of:

1. Enter https://groups.io/login in your web browser of choice (or click on the link in this step).
2. On the login page, enter your e-mail ID and password or use one of the link "buttons" at the bottom of the screen to have yourself sent a login link or sign in with Facebook or Google.
3. Once logged in, you will be presented with the Groups page, in my case the only group is jfw, and I click on the link that's right next to the checkbox for the group to be taken directly to the jfw main groups page.
4. On the jfw main groups page you have a menu of sorts down the left side of the screen with its choices labeled:
• Home 
• Messages
• Post
• Poll
• Wiki
• Hangout
• Subscription
5. That same menu is carried over if you go to the Messages page, which is where I spend pretty much all of my time.  Selecting the Subscription option from whatever page you are on leads to the page that shows the group e-mail address, date you subscribed, and the e-mail options followed by the radio buttons to select your preferred option, and a "Save" or "Unsubscribe" button at the very bottom.

Brian

The other possibility, now that I think of it, is that I'm using Outlook 2007 here. I'll try it on my machine that has 2013 and see if it behaves any differently.

Londa,

            Thanks so much.  What will be funny is if it behaves the same way in 2013, because what I'm using with this client and what I have on my own machine and this client has on hers.

            Over time I've actually been surprised at what JAWS chooses, and doesn't choose, to read at various points.  In JAWS 14 (I haven't retried in JAWS 17) if you are in a browse dialog and entered the first character or two of a file name you typically get the equivalent of a dropdown box that lists all the files in that folder that begin with those characters.  However, when you use down arrow to go through that list of files JAWS did not say a blessed thing.  If ever there were a place where announcement is needed, that's it.

Brian

Control Tab works from anywhere in the box. The only trouble is that JAWS doesn't speak the change.

 I'll have to try this again.  Not only does it not speak the change, it doesn't cause Windows to show that the tab has changed, either.  It does show the tab change if you are sitting on one of the tab headings and hit CTRL+TAB then.

When JAWS neither speaks nor causes Windows to show were you've jumped to you're more than a little in limbo, whether you can see or not.  We're also still using beginner level verbosity, too.

Brian