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Moderated Re: Firefox?

Gene Warner
 

Me too, I thought that the JAWS support for Internet Explorer was so much better than it was for any other browser that I continued to use it until an announcement came out that said that a soon to be released update would replace it with Edge. So I started learning Edge so I'd be ready, but still lament the demise of Internet Explorer.

Gene...

On 7/3/2022 12:46 PM, JM Casey wrote:
It's a little different. But was iE's favourites really 8that* much better? I used iE back in the day too but didn't really have any qualms about leaving it behind. Ah well, sometimes I have my old preferences that I like to stick to as well.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: July 3, 2022 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?
The favorite thing is why I still use internet xplorer.
I don't understand why the chrome firefox and other brosers messed that up so badly.
Justin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?
Besides, the way Chromium is built, even with the more independent browsers (iE not related to google), therea re privacy concerns. Makers of ad blockers and privacy extensions are warning that soon much of this stuff may not be able to work properly (I have seen a youtube video about thisa nd also talked to a software developer frienda bout it).
So although I was startign to lean more heavily on Chrome, my inclination is to stick with firefox as mucha s possible -- especially as they have recently made privacy a more serious consideration and introduced total cookie isolation.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: July 3, 2022 07:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?
Gene,
Firefox is easily the most simple to learn of all the browsers. This is open source so updates or fixes are regular. The favorites are your bookmarks, very to save a website and to then go find your library of saved or bookmarked sites. However, the management of the bookmarks is not there and if you save many sites, you would simply start at the top which is the site you had saved longest back and go down to the most recent. Also, the problem is if you accidently hit the delete key while any specific site may be highlighted within your library, it is gone. Simple but not enough for management or categorizing the sites and needing some sort of confirmation to delete in case of user mistake. Other than that, the browser and JFW have their issues together where the find command is sometimes an issue but all and all, I prefer this browser over the others.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?
Yeah, but I just ignore all of that. I understand that Chrome is just as bad, only it's Google instead of Microsoft. That is why I am thinking of giving Firefox another look to see if it is any less confusing than it was all those years ago.
Gene...
On 7/3/2022 1:41 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Edge is too invasive in my opinion, with constantly pushing for an
account for profile, which is just more tracking by MS.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox?


I personally prefer Chrome. Firefox is third on my list, Edge being
number 2.



On Jul 2, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

OK all you Firefox users, it was seven or eight years ago when I
tried Firefox. Other than this current accessibility hiccup, would it
be worth looking at again?

One of the things that Internet Explorer did that I wish these other
browser developers would do is how it handled favorites or bookmarks.
The beauty of Microsoft's approach was that you could just use your
favorite file manager to manage your bookmarks.

Gene...















Moderated Re: Firefox?

Justin Williams
 

Only because I can use first letter navigation in the IE favorites.

Couldn't see a way to do that with the others.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 12:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?

It's a little different. But was iE's favourites really 8that* much better? I used iE back in the day too but didn't really have any qualms about leaving it behind. Ah well, sometimes I have my old preferences that I like to stick to as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: July 3, 2022 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?

The favorite thing is why I still use internet xplorer.

I don't understand why the chrome firefox and other brosers messed that up so badly.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?

Besides, the way Chromium is built, even with the more independent browsers (iE not related to google), therea re privacy concerns. Makers of ad blockers and privacy extensions are warning that soon much of this stuff may not be able to work properly (I have seen a youtube video about thisa nd also talked to a software developer frienda bout it).
So although I was startign to lean more heavily on Chrome, my inclination is to stick with firefox as mucha s possible -- especially as they have recently made privacy a more serious consideration and introduced total cookie isolation.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: July 3, 2022 07:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?

Gene,

Firefox is easily the most simple to learn of all the browsers. This is open source so updates or fixes are regular. The favorites are your bookmarks, very to save a website and to then go find your library of saved or bookmarked sites. However, the management of the bookmarks is not there and if you save many sites, you would simply start at the top which is the site you had saved longest back and go down to the most recent. Also, the problem is if you accidently hit the delete key while any specific site may be highlighted within your library, it is gone. Simple but not enough for management or categorizing the sites and needing some sort of confirmation to delete in case of user mistake. Other than that, the browser and JFW have their issues together where the find command is sometimes an issue but all and all, I prefer this browser over the others.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?

Yeah, but I just ignore all of that. I understand that Chrome is just as bad, only it's Google instead of Microsoft. That is why I am thinking of giving Firefox another look to see if it is any less confusing than it was all those years ago.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 1:41 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Edge is too invasive in my opinion, with constantly pushing for an
account for profile, which is just more tracking by MS.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox?


I personally prefer Chrome. Firefox is third on my list, Edge being
number 2.



On Jul 2, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

OK all you Firefox users, it was seven or eight years ago when I
tried Firefox. Other than this current accessibility hiccup, would it
be worth looking at again?

One of the things that Internet Explorer did that I wish these other
browser developers would do is how it handled favorites or bookmarks.
The beauty of Microsoft's approach was that you could just use your
favorite file manager to manage your bookmarks.

Gene...















Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 

hey list curtis called you have to use the minus and go below 0 like you
have to use dash 10 thanks for your help.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Loy
 


That would be a very old version and you do own the license, but that version would not work with Windows 10 or 11. OAS's keep changing so you need to upgrade your screen reader.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

I originally purchased JAWS with my college trust fund in 2002. Does this mean I own it if I purchased a perpetual license back then?
On 07/03/2022 6:33 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited@...> wrote:



There is so much confusion about this issue that I will try to explain the differences between a perpetual license and an annual renewable home license.  When you purchase a copy of JAWS for the regular price of $950, you can use it indefinitely without restriction as long as it is still compatible with your version of Windows because you own it outright.  It is yours to keep, and you can authorize it to use on up to three computers.  Many JAWS home users have JAWS purchased for them by a blindness rehab agency and never bother to upgrade their SMA's at their own cost because JAWS works satisfactorally with the version of Windows they are using.  Other JAWS users who own it outright because they either purchased it themselves or had it purchased for them by a rehab agency prefer to pay $150 every two years to upgrade their SMA's so that they can enjoy the latest version of JAWS and ensure ongoing compatibility with Windows.  With an annual home license,on the other hand, you are only purchasing the right to use JAWS without restriction for a specific period of time, usually one, three or five years.  Unlike an SMA, you do not own JAWS outright, and if you fail to renew your license before it is due to expire, JAWS will revert to 40 minute demo mode.  HTH. 


Gerald



 

On 7/3/2022 9:00 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I wonder what the difference is between the Home Annual and the Perpetual license.
On 07/03/2022 5:54 AM Bharat <bharat.b@...> wrote:

 
Thank you,

bharat.In that case, you would be better served  by going with the
$95 JAWS home annual licence from FS's E-Store. While out there, if
you opt for a 2 or 5 year licence, it would come in even cheaper from
a overall pricing standpoint. That's my understanding of it all.


On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
The most recent version my SMA currently supports is JAWS version 15.

    On 07/03/2022 5:39 AM Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:


    Depending on your last SMA version, you could upgrade to a current SMA
by paying the upgrade cost from that previous version. But if it is not a
recent version the price may be more than you want to pay.

        > >         ----- Original Message -----
        From: Annabelle Susan Morison mailto:foristnights@...
        To: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io
        Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 8:28 AM
        Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another:
Additional Costs?

        I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

            > > >             On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via
groups.io <bwaylimited@...
mailto:bwaylimited@... > wrote:
            Sorry, no can do.  Once you have selected the annual
license option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing
JAWS outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


            Gerald



            On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

                > > > >                 Hi, it's Annabelle.
                I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like
to change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right? Will it cost me anything? If so, how much.
Specifically, I have a home license for JAWS 2021.

            > > >
        > >
    >



Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 

thanks kirtus will.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


There is the very real possibility that your version of JAWS does not
support this function. Best you consult with Freedom Scientific.


On Jul 3, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> wrote:

hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 

thanks glenn for the support

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


When Joe asked about this days ago, I thought there was a spell rate setting
too, and before I suggested that to him, I looked in my Jaws voice settings
and I couldn't find it either.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 


thanks where or how do I adjust the spelling for a little slower. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

When adjusting  the, Spell Rate Change Percent: or Voice Spell Rate Change Percent: , you can only do this in the, All Contexts, category.
Voice Adjust: Combo box All Contexts 1 of 5
 
The PC Cursor Voice, Jaws Cursor Voice, Keyboard Voice and Tutor and Message Voice categories don't have the
Spell Rate Change Percent: or Voice Spell Rate Change Percent: options.
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

There is the very real possibility that your version of JAWS does not support this function. Best you consult with Freedom Scientific.


On Jul 3, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> wrote:

hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation  and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
> Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
> INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
> *Joseph Machise
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
> *Subject:* help with jaws please.
>
> Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
> spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
> Joseph.
>
>
































Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 

same here but that is not in mine jeen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Just had a thought, could it be that only certain voices support this? I
am using Eloquence.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 1:43 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
When Joe asked about this days ago, I thought there was a spell rate
setting
too, and before I suggested that to him, I looked in my Jaws voice
settings
and I couldn't find it either.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no
spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to
JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change
percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.
































Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Gene Warner
 

Just had a thought, could it be that only certain voices support this? I am using Eloquence.

Gene...

On 7/3/2022 1:43 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
When Joe asked about this days ago, I thought there was a spell rate setting
too, and before I suggested that to him, I looked in my Jaws voice settings
and I couldn't find it either.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
Joseph:
It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.
Curtis
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
Hello:
In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.
Gene...
On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Mike B.
 


When adjusting  the, Spell Rate Change Percent: or Voice Spell Rate Change Percent: , you can only do this in the, All Contexts, category.
Voice Adjust: Combo box All Contexts 1 of 5
 
The PC Cursor Voice, Jaws Cursor Voice, Keyboard Voice and Tutor and Message Voice categories don't have the
Spell Rate Change Percent: or Voice Spell Rate Change Percent: options.
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

There is the very real possibility that your version of JAWS does not support this function. Best you consult with Freedom Scientific.


On Jul 3, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> wrote:

hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation  and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
> Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
> INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
> *Joseph Machise
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
> *Subject:* help with jaws please.
>
> Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
> spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
> Joseph.
>
>
































Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

K0LNY
 

When Joe asked about this days ago, I thought there was a spell rate setting
too, and before I suggested that to him, I looked in my Jaws voice settings
and I couldn't find it either.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

If you are needing to change the speed of your speech synthesizer on the fly, the keyboard command is:

CTRL + ALT + Page up to speed up/Page Down to slow down.

To permanently change te speed on the fly do the following:

CTRL + SHFT + ALT and either page up or page down

Pitch can only be change in the Voices under Options.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS > Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have
jaws spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks
from Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Gene Warner
 

It is there, here is a capture of the voice adjustments dialog from my copy: (I put astrisks around what you are looking for)

--- begin ---
Voice Adjustment
Profile Name: Eloquence Delete Profile
Enable Additional Voice Profiles for installed Vocalizer Expressive 2 voices
Synthesizer Name: Eloquence Software
Synthesizer Language: Match JAWS UI Language (Primary) Set Language as Primary
Speak Sample
Voice
Adjust: All Contexts Pitch: 65
Person: Reed Volume: 100
*** Rate: 75 Spell Rate Change -25 ***
Punctuation: Most Upper Case Pitch Change 20
OK Save As... Apply Cancel
Press Insert + F1 for Help.
--- end---

Gene...

On 7/3/2022 1:14 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
Joseph:
It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.
Curtis
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
Hello:
In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.
Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.
Gene...
On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Curtis Chong
 

There is the very real possibility that your version of JAWS does not support this function. Best you consult with Freedom Scientific.

On Jul 3, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> wrote:

hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: Firefox?

K0LNY
 

In the bookmarks, they are saved with your file explorer settings, by date
or name.
You can jump by letter, like in a folder.
You just right arrow into bookmarks toolbar, and if I want the latest
bookmarks, I just up arrow to the bottom of the list, because I sort my
folders so the latest file is at the bottom.
Also, if you have a bookmark, you don't even have to open the bookmarks, you
can simply do control L and type in a few of the first letters of the URL
and press enter and hit enter and the browser goes there.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Mladek" <hmladek@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox?


Gene,

Firefox is easily the most simple to learn of all the browsers. This is open
source so updates or fixes are regular. The favorites are your bookmarks,
very to save a website and to then go find your library of saved or
bookmarked sites. However, the management of the bookmarks is not there and
if you save many sites, you would simply start at the top which is the site
you had saved longest back and go down to the most recent. Also, the problem
is if you accidently hit the delete key while any specific site may be
highlighted within your library, it is gone. Simple but not enough for
management or categorizing the sites and needing some sort of confirmation
to delete in case of user mistake. Other than that, the browser and JFW have
their issues together where the find command is sometimes an issue but all
and all, I prefer this browser over the others.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox?

Yeah, but I just ignore all of that. I understand that Chrome is just as
bad, only it's Google instead of Microsoft. That is why I am thinking of
giving Firefox another look to see if it is any less confusing than it was
all those years ago.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 1:41 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Edge is too invasive in my opinion, with constantly pushing for an
account for profile, which is just more tracking by MS.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox?


I personally prefer Chrome. Firefox is third on my list, Edge being
number 2.



On Jul 2, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

OK all you Firefox users, it was seven or eight years ago when I
tried Firefox. Other than this current accessibility hiccup, would it
be worth looking at again?

One of the things that Internet Explorer did that I wish these other
browser developers would do is how it handled favorites or bookmarks.
The beauty of Microsoft's approach was that you could just use your
favorite file manager to manage your bookmarks.

Gene...















Moderated Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

Vicky Collins
 

Actually, I’m almost thinking it might be a late charge for not purchasing the SMA by the end of last year, as I recall that prices used to go up for the SMA if one waited until after the end of the year when using their last SMA count. In fact, since I was waiting until the conventions to decide which type of license to renew, I hadn’t yet purchased the 2023 and 2024 SMA and so also got the $210 price when I put in my serial number, but then I got the lower $168 price, actually $178 something with sales tax,  after going to the checkout page.

 

Also, when I checked the JAWS Home Annual license page, it did show me the lower price from the $95 for each year, but then it said that lower price was the regular price.

 

Thus, I’m kind of wondering two things, so maybe I’ll be in line to call FS on Tuesday as well. First, regarding the SMA, is the $120 price only for those folks who renewed their SMA in what FS considers a timely manor, or is it for anyone who is currently running a 2022 license of JAWS? And second, regarding the discount for the three and five year Home Annual licenses, is this a discount for the conventions only, or is it now the normal discount for purchasing so many years at one time?

 

Finally, and I hope this will make sense, below I’ll copy and paste what I got when checking my serial number on the upgrade page, what I saw when bringing up the checkout page for the SMA, and finally what is shown on the store page regarding the three year Home Annual license:

 

 

Congratulations! Our records show that you are licensed for release 2022 of JAWS Single User and are eligible to renew your SMA for $210. This will entitle you to receive JAWS Single User releases up to version 2024.

 

JAWS Home Edition Screen Reader - SMA Late Renewal

 

Download Only

 

1

x

$168.00

 

JAWS HOME ANNUAL - NON-RECURRING

Regular price$228.00

LICENSE TERM

 

3-year JAWS Non-Recurring

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

FS must think you have the professional, because the Home edition shouldn't

cost  but $120 .

----- Original Message -----

From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:39 PM

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

 

Actually, I have the Home Use Edition, I got mine through the Window-eyes

switch over to Jaws too.

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 18:25

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

That must have been for the professional, most people don't need the

professional license.

----- Original Message -----

From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:49 PM

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

 

I just purchased my sma renewal for $168.00 but I didn't learn about that

price until I got to the cart on the FS site, until I got there it waslisted

at $210.00.

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene

Warner

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 17:31

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

This is how I understand it. If you paid the initial license price of

$950 for JAWS and have kept your SMAs up to ddate, then SMAs are better

because they only cost $60 per year with the discount and $75 per year

without the discount. But if you can't afford the initial license price

of $950, then the annual license is better because it doesn't require

that initial huge outlay of cash.

 

Gene...

 

 

On 7/2/2022 5:23 PM, Don H wrote:

> So I have been purchasing a SMA for JAWS and not purchasing the annual

> subscription.  Guess I don't really know which is better.

> On 7/2/2022 4:19 PM, Loy wrote:

>> No, The $120 deal is for the SMA license. However there is a sale price

>> for the Home annual license I think it is $20 a year off if you buy 2 or

>> more years. .

>> 

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica M" <misswings@...>

>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:23 PM

>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>> 

>> 

>>> I just renewed myyearly license back in April, as I pay the $95 per

>>> year. If I get this $120 deal, will it add on to my existing time

>>> remaining, or should I save my money?  I thought $95 was a good deal,

>>> but if one can pay either $120 or $150 for two years and get the same

>>> thing you get for $95 a year, that's a better money saver.

>>> 

>>> At 12:30 PM 7/2/2022, you wrote:

>>>> If 2022 was your last upgrade that your SMA entitled you to then to

>>>> get the lower $150 price, you should have bought another two years

>>>> before they released the 2022 version. That is what I meant by

>>>> letting your SMAs expire. Sorry for the confusion.

>>>> 

>>>> Gene...

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> On 7/2/2022 11:21 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>> My sma is good for jfw 2022 so it hasn't expired yet

>>>>> 

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> timelord09@...

>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> u

>>>>> 

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>>>>> Gene Warner

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:40

>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>>>> You probably let your SMAs expire, they do charge you for that.

>>>>> Gene...

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 7/2/2022 10:34 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>>> I just checked my sma and a renewal would cost $210.00, big bummer

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>> timelord09@...

>>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> u

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>>>>>> Mike

>>>>>> Pietruk

>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:13

>>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Gerald

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I haven't seen any discounts offered this convention season for Jaws.

>>>>>> Generally, the most cost effective way to purchase a SMA is to

>>>>>> renew for 2

>>>>>> years instead of 1 at the time of renewal.

>>>>>> As I'm set through the 2024 upgrade, it shows me no prices when

>>>>>> looking at

>>>>>> the upgrade page.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 

hi Curtis checked not there only the rate and the punctuation and no spell
rate will call FS tuesday and ask

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 

will let you no what mine has in the next e-mail.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Curtis Chong
 

Joseph:

It is there. It's just before the pitch change setting.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.


Moderated Re: help with jaws please.

Joseph Machise
 

hi Curtis the present only changes the pitch, can't find the spell change
speed just for the spelling.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.


Hello:

In the JAWS voice settings, there is a spell rate change setting. Go to JAWS
> Options > Voices > Voice Adjustment. There is a spell rate change percent
setting you can adjust there.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with jaws please.

Hmm... That might be a good thing to suggest to Freedom Scientific.
Provide a separate speech rate for spelling. Then you could set the
speech rate you want to use when you ask JAWS to spell and you wouldn't
have to remember to slow down JAWS every time you wanted it to spell
something and you wouldn't have to remember to speed JAWS back up again
when the spelling is done.

Gene...


On 7/3/2022 11:00 AM, Bill White wrote:
Use ALT plus CONTROL plus PAGEDOWN to slow JAWS down before you use
INSERT plus 8. Then it will spell only as fast as JAWS is speaking.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Machise
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:38 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* help with jaws please.

Hi list when my jaws spells when I use the insert and 8 key to have jaws
spell it spells to fast, how do I have jaws spell slower thanks from
Joseph.