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moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

K0LNY
 

Nobody that I am aware of developed Eloquence in Android beyond 32 bit
support.
I have Eloquence 32 bit for Android, but haven't used it beyond Android 6 or
7, so I don't know if it would work on more recent Androids.
Maybe there is a 64 bit of Eloquence for Android too.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices


Well, as far as their supporting Eloquence, I suspect it's the same
way jaws does, by using an up-to-date build. That's a far different
thing from the classic SAPI voices, many of which no longer have
support of any kind.

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I wonder how IOS is doing it?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices


Re.: The request for jaws to support SAPI4 voices.

Something to keep in mind is that many of these were only ever
available in 32-bit variants. They are simply not going to play nice
with a 64-bit jaws, no matter what FS might do.

On 6/16/22, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:
Yes, I would like the iPhone to have the jaws voice.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

iOS 16

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
When is iPhone getting Eloquence?
That will be great!
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:23 AM
Subject: jaws and vintage classic voices


So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices
like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on
here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices
like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because
decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s.
DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of
them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was
in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is
probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring
back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws.

Josh
















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Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...











--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

Soronel Haetir
 

Well, as far as their supporting Eloquence, I suspect it's the same
way jaws does, by using an up-to-date build. That's a far different
thing from the classic SAPI voices, many of which no longer have
support of any kind.

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
I wonder how IOS is doing it?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices


Re.: The request for jaws to support SAPI4 voices.

Something to keep in mind is that many of these were only ever
available in 32-bit variants. They are simply not going to play nice
with a 64-bit jaws, no matter what FS might do.

On 6/16/22, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:
Yes, I would like the iPhone to have the jaws voice.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

iOS 16

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
When is iPhone getting Eloquence?
That will be great!
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:23 AM
Subject: jaws and vintage classic voices


So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices
like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on
here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices
like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because
decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s.
DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of
them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was
in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is
probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring
back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws.

Josh
















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...










--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

K0LNY
 

I wonder how IOS is doing it?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices


Re.: The request for jaws to support SAPI4 voices.

Something to keep in mind is that many of these were only ever
available in 32-bit variants. They are simply not going to play nice
with a 64-bit jaws, no matter what FS might do.

On 6/16/22, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:
Yes, I would like the iPhone to have the jaws voice.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

iOS 16

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
When is iPhone getting Eloquence?
That will be great!
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:23 AM
Subject: jaws and vintage classic voices


So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices
like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on
here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices
like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because
decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s.
DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of
them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was
in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is
probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring
back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws.

Josh
















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

Soronel Haetir
 

Re.: The request for jaws to support SAPI4 voices.

Something to keep in mind is that many of these were only ever
available in 32-bit variants. They are simply not going to play nice
with a 64-bit jaws, no matter what FS might do.

On 6/16/22, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:
Yes, I would like the iPhone to have the jaws voice.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

iOS 16

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
When is iPhone getting Eloquence?
That will be great!
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:23 AM
Subject: jaws and vintage classic voices


So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices
like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on
here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices
like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because
decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s.
DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of
them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was
in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is
probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring
back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws.

Josh















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


moderated Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 11:26 AM, Curtis Chong wrote:
I myself am not in favor of using the virtual ribbons at all. This feature was created so that people could avoid learning how to navigate using the ribbons that were initiated when Office 2007 was released.
-
A hearty SECONDED!   The ribbons interface is the UI across the majority of Windows itself, from File Explorer and through virtually all applications.  It only makes sense to learn the native UI of any operating system you happen to choose to use.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

Justin Williams
 

Yes, I would like the iPhone to have the jaws voice.

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

iOS 16

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
When is iPhone getting Eloquence?
That will be great!
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:23 AM
Subject: jaws and vintage classic voices


So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices
like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on
here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices
like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because
decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s.
DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of
them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was
in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is
probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring
back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws.

Josh






moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

Brandon
 

iOS 16

On 6/16/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
When is iPhone getting Eloquence?
That will be great!
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:23 AM
Subject: jaws and vintage classic voices


So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices like
eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on here write
to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices like l&h
TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because decTalk seemed to
be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s. DecTalk works with NVDA but
the addon frequently breaks because of them always updating it once a year
and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was in jaws well it would just work. Keynote
gold multimedia tts is probablly out of the question but I think they could
at least bring back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into
jaws.

Josh






moderated accessing a feature on TWBlue

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,

One of the things that can be done on TWBlue is accessing “following timelines”, I’d really like to do this but can’t figure out how, can anyone help me? Using latest versions of Jaws, TWBlue (or at least I think so) and Windows 11.

Madison


moderated Re: Virtual Ribbons?

Curtis Chong
 

Claudia:

 

You probably do not have to worry about whether the virtual ribbon menus are used or not because, by default, they are turned off. However, an easier way to check is to do the following:

 

  • Get into the JAWS Settings by pressing JAWS Key plus the number 6.
  • Press Control Shift D to ensure you are in the Default Settings.
  • Search for the word ribbon.
  • Arrow down to “use virtual ribbon menu”. You should see that this is not checked.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Best regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Curtis,

 

Can you please advise as to where I would go to turn these off?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Claudia:

 

I myself am not in favor of using the virtual ribbons at all. This feature was created so that people could avoid learning how to navigate using the ribbons that were initiated when Office 2007 was released. Keep that setting off, is my suggestion.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Hi,

 

I keep running across Virtual Ribbons, and I can’t recall if I want these visible or not?

I believe I do but someone please refresh my memory.

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 


moderated Re: Virtual Ribbons?

Claudia
 

I’m so sorry;  how do I turn this off for things like Office.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Claudia:

 

By default, showing the Virtual Ribbon in JAWS is already turned off. However, if you want to check:

 

  • Press JAWS Key plus J to get into JAWS.
  • Get into the Help menu.
  • Go into the Startup Wizard.
  • Tab through and check the various settings. You will find one that talks about using virtual ribbon menus. This is a checkbox which, by default, is not checked. That is the state I prefer.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Curtis,

 

Can you please advise as to where I would go to turn these off?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Claudia:

 

I myself am not in favor of using the virtual ribbons at all. This feature was created so that people could avoid learning how to navigate using the ribbons that were initiated when Office 2007 was released. Keep that setting off, is my suggestion.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Hi,

 

I keep running across Virtual Ribbons, and I can’t recall if I want these visible or not?

I believe I do but someone please refresh my memory.

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 


moderated Re: Virtual Ribbons?

Curtis Chong
 

Claudia:

 

By default, showing the Virtual Ribbon in JAWS is already turned off. However, if you want to check:

 

  • Press JAWS Key plus J to get into JAWS.
  • Get into the Help menu.
  • Go into the Startup Wizard.
  • Tab through and check the various settings. You will find one that talks about using virtual ribbon menus. This is a checkbox which, by default, is not checked. That is the state I prefer.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Curtis,

 

Can you please advise as to where I would go to turn these off?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Claudia:

 

I myself am not in favor of using the virtual ribbons at all. This feature was created so that people could avoid learning how to navigate using the ribbons that were initiated when Office 2007 was released. Keep that setting off, is my suggestion.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Hi,

 

I keep running across Virtual Ribbons, and I can’t recall if I want these visible or not?

I believe I do but someone please refresh my memory.

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 


moderated Re: Virtual Ribbons?

Claudia
 

Curtis,

 

Can you please advise as to where I would go to turn these off?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Claudia:

 

I myself am not in favor of using the virtual ribbons at all. This feature was created so that people could avoid learning how to navigate using the ribbons that were initiated when Office 2007 was released. Keep that setting off, is my suggestion.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Hi,

 

I keep running across Virtual Ribbons, and I can’t recall if I want these visible or not?

I believe I do but someone please refresh my memory.

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 


moderated Re: Virtual Ribbons?

Curtis Chong
 

Claudia:

 

I myself am not in favor of using the virtual ribbons at all. This feature was created so that people could avoid learning how to navigate using the ribbons that were initiated when Office 2007 was released. Keep that setting off, is my suggestion.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Virtual Ribbons?

 

Hi,

 

I keep running across Virtual Ribbons, and I can’t recall if I want these visible or not?

I believe I do but someone please refresh my memory.

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 


moderated Virtual Ribbons?

Claudia
 

Hi,

 

I keep running across Virtual Ribbons, and I can’t recall if I want these visible or not?

I believe I do but someone please refresh my memory.

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 


moderated Jaws Home Annual?

Claudia
 

Hi,

 

After a long stint of not updating, due to a variety of reasons, I have finally bought Jaws Home Annual.

Is there a way to make this a portable copy, for me to install on a USB drive?

Or, does this require me to obtain a different version?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 


moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

K0LNY
 


When is iPhone getting Eloquence?
That will be great!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:23 AM
Subject: jaws and vintage classic voices

So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s. DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws. 

Josh


moderated Re: jaws and vintage classic voices

crayton Benner <craybay3198@...>
 

Hmmmmm. It’s possibly a thought maybe. 

On Jun 16, 2022, at 10:23, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s. DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws. 

Josh


moderated jaws and vintage classic voices

Josh Kennedy
 

So because iPhone will be getting many more vintage classic tts voices like eloquence and classic mac voices, why not jaws? Could everyone on here write to freedom scientific asking for the return of sapi4 voices like l&h TruVoice, and other sapi4 tts engines and decTalk, because decTalk seemed to be the most common tts back in the 80s and 90s. DecTalk works with NVDA but the addon frequently breaks because of them always updating it once a year and if decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 was in jaws well it would just work. Keynote gold multimedia tts is probablly out of the question but I think they could at least bring back sapi4 support and put a couple decTalk versions into jaws. 

Josh


moderated outlook 2019 and jaws 2022 and unread messages

William Windels
 

Hello,
I use outlook 2019 with jaws 2022 and now, the amount of unread messages aren't shown anymore when I move between the different inboxes in Outlook with the arrow-keys.
The strange thing is that that amount is showing corectly when I use jaws 2020.
The jawssettings in jaws 2022 are migrated from my jaws 2020 so this settings should be nearly identical.
It has never worked in jaws 2022.

Thx for any hints

Kind regards, William Windels



Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone


moderated Re: Federal Employment and Accommodations

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  I hope you will not give up.  From taking and teaching classes  I know both ends of the feeling of being overwhelmed. The student perspective and the teacher or employer perspective where lots of information must be given at once even though the employee will feel snowed under .

I pray you will get patient people within the office to work with you and will have the resources to meet the challenge.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 7:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Federal Employment and Accommodations

 

Thanks for all of the suggestions here.

I honestly feel like I’m drowning.

I went from feeling very competent on my previous job to feeling like I can’t do anything.

I know these are always new challenges, when starting a new job, but this is so very daunting.

There are so many systems to learn within the organization, and I honestly am having difficulty with just the basic training aspect of things.

Accessing training in Success Factors is hit or miss, even on my personal computer, because the trainings don’t appear to all be formatted the same.

 

Claudia

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Federal Employment and Accommodations

 

Hi.

 

If your workplace provides Adobe Acrobat Pro, it has oCR built in – if you need oCR functionality, I would use this and not JAWS.

If the forms are created properly, you’ll also be able to use this programme to fill them out. It works rather likea  webpage. When you finish, there’s usually a save button, which will save the form and, if required, send it to its destination on the network/over the internet.

Not all forms are created equal though, so you’ll have to take it on a case by case basis.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: June 10, 2022 01:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Federal Employment and Accommodations

 

Hello All,

 

I just began a new job this week, with the federal government.

I have requested the following accommodations, JFW, a braille display, such as the Focus 40 Blue and an iPhone thus far.

 

I have already found the following issues. They use Adobe a great deal, so I need something that I can use to fill out forms? Is this doable, even with using something like Adobe Acrobat DC?

I have sent myself some of the required forms to my private e-mail and have been able to open them with my iPhone, but I'm not sure I can fill them out this way.

 

If I've requested JFW, is there any potential reason why I'd also need Kurzweil, seeing as JFW has the built-in OCR?

 

The department I work for also uses a Soft Phone system, which I'm told will not be accessible, so I've requested an iPhone as an alternative.

 

They have offered me a reader, but I don't see myself needing that enough to justify that expense for the department as well. I successfully did this job, at a state level, with minor issues, for 10 years.

 

If you'd rather not clutter up the list, please feel free to e-mail me directly.

Claudiadr2013@...

Thanks.

 

Claudia