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command to restart Jaws is not working
molly the blind tech lover
Greetings everyone.
For some reason the command to restart Jaws (insert plus spacebar followed by f4), is not working on my pc. When I press that keystroke the Jaws window does not go away. I rebooted my computer which temporarily fixed it, but now it is not working again. Also, the voice command to restart Jaws is also not working. I am running Jaws version 2022 (April 2022 update), and Windows 11 version 21h2. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Thanks. |
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Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
molly the blind tech lover
I just use the Jaws voice assistant to ask for the battery level/time
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and date. Guess I'm lazy lol.
On 6/16/22, Madison Martin <Madison.Martin2000@...> wrote:
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Re: Saving Jaws?
Curtis Chong
Unlike NVDA, JAWS cannot be made portable. You can copy the installation software to a flash drive and install this on to another machine to get a 40-minute demonstration version. But the licensing does not necessarily carry over.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 9:43 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Saving Jaws?
Hello, C An Jaws be saved on a USB drive? Thanks.
Claudia
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Saving Jaws?
Claudia
Hello, C An Jaws be saved on a USB drive? Thanks.
Claudia
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Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Jeff Christiansen
Try, Insert+Shift+B
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <> On Behalf Of meow meow Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 5:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA? sometime I have hard time with window 11 that when I want to check on battery by instert plus window key plus f10 sometime it will bring up and sometime it won't that I have to keep trying few time and someone told me to use control m to bring up decktop but mine would not work my laptop have hard time getting decktop that only I press humm not sure what key was it below power buttone I think it is { button -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@...> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 8:40 PM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA? Hello. |
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Re: DECtalk ACCESS32 and JAWS, was RE: Please remind me where to din and how to download voices
Josh Kennedy
you probably used keynote gold with a brailleNote classic, or a keynote companion. I used it on a grid laptop customized by pulseData back in 1992, with Keysoft version 1.33F for ms-dos 5.0 and the pulseData masterTouch screen reader the the MasterTouch tablet, which I never used but I had it. I wish I would have played with that thing. It was a tablet with 25 raised lines going across it and a few buttons. It plugged into the Keynote gold SA speech box using a short phone line type cord. And you could move your finger across the raised lines on the tablet and Keynote gold would read the corresponding screen lines to you. not sure what the other buttons did. Dos had 25 lines of 80 characters each. Dos stands for disk operating system and was a command-line OS. you type commands to make it do stuff like erase files or load programs and only one program would run at a time unless you had a special multiTasking shell. I did use smooth talker for dos with the sound blaster card. its motto was: sound blaster, blast away the sound!! Smooth talker with the shareware Tiny Talk screen reader by Erik Bohlman and it was rather laggy and slow. Anyway the dos operating system it also sometimes used extended ascii characters for drawing boxes and dialogs and stuff which some screen readers such as vocal-eyes and ASAP could tell you what those characters were. And if your screen reader did not support keynote gold directly. \You would edit your config.sys file and put in this line:
device= c:\golddev.sys After you had the free golddev.sys file, of course. Then making sure your keynote gold SA was connected to the grid laptop, you turn it off, and back on. Then Keynote Gold SA serial speech synthesizer with its default serial settings of 38300 baud I think, 8 data bits, no parody, 1 stop bits, and software handshaking or xon-xoff handshaking would say: Gold Card device driver version 1.44 ready. Serial number demo. And then you tell your screen reader like ASAP by MicroTalk to use an Accent synthesizer on com1. Then Keynote gold would work. Or you could use outSpoken for windows3.1. And it worked that way also. Windows-master screen reader by blazie engineering also worked. I wish I could have used Keysoft with decTalk just to see what it was like. But it worked good with my Keynote Gold SA speech synthesizer. And on the back of the keynote gold box was brailled its serial number and the company name, PulseData. |
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Re: Double And signs
Dennis Brown
Do you get the double symbols?
Thanks, Dennis T. Brown
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 8:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Double And signs
Well, there is a symbols file that is used to convert symbols to text strings. But if you are running the current version of JAWS, and you have never tried to adjust symbol pronunciation then you should probably talk to support so this can be properly fixed. |
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Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
Josh Kennedy
IBM viavoice outloud is IBM's version of eloquence, with voices like reed, shelly, rocko, bobby, etcetera. decTalk has perfect paul, betty, kit the kid, harry, whispering wendy, and a few others.
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Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
Josh Kennedy
IBM viavoice is sapi4, so if they will bring back sapi4 support into jaws then yes IBM viavoice will work. IBM viavoice also has support for a few more languages.
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Re: Double And signs
Cohn, Jonathan
Well, there is a symbols file that is used to convert symbols to text strings. But if you are running the current version of JAWS, and you have never tried to adjust symbol pronunciation then you should probably talk to support so this can be properly fixed.
Personally, I didn't even notice the double speak since often in programming two ampersands are placed next to each other. |
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Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
Kestrel Verlager <kestrell@...>
When you say the old IBM Via Voice that was also DecTalk, are those the voices such as Perfect Paul, Whispering Wendy, Huge Harry, etc?
I miss those voices.
Well, perhaps not Whispering Wendy. Although I’ve always thought that if I could connect Whispering Wendy to a motion detector and have her just whisper at intruders, she would scare them away more effectively than any guard dog.
Kestrell
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
There is an older version which sounded different from the new one. I believe in those time it is called IBM via voice
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
That is Eloquence, which is the default synth in Jaws.
----- Original Message ----- From: Cornelius Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 7:59 PM Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
How about the IBM Veia voice? Will there be ways to make it work on JAWS?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
I wonder if jaws could be scripted to work withh the decTalk dlls I already have? |
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Re: Thunderbird braille input help
K0LNY
Doesn't Jaws have a Braille input setting called eight dot Braille mode?
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I saw that setting somewhere once. Glenn
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From: "guy schlosser" <guyster104@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:49 PM Subject: Re: Thunderbird braille input help Just to do some further testing, I composed an email, using NVDA and Mozilla Thunderbird. Using dot 8 for enter on the focus, worked exactly as expected. This leads me to ask, is there a different code sent by JAWS when dot 8 is pressed? This is very weird. Thanks in advance for any suggestions on fixing. Guy On 6/14/2022 7:31 PM, guy schlosser via groups.io wrote: Hello everyone, I am writing this for a client. She is learning to use -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Re: Thunderbird braille input help
guy schlosser
Just to do some further testing, I composed an email, using NVDA and Mozilla Thunderbird. Using dot 8 for enter on the focus, worked exactly as expected. This leads me to ask, is there a different code sent by JAWS when dot 8 is pressed? This is very weird. Thanks in advance for any suggestions on fixing.
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On 6/14/2022 7:31 PM, guy schlosser via groups.io wrote:
Hello everyone, I am writing this for a client. She is learning to use JAWS via a focus 40 blue, with no qwerty keyboard. The problem we are having has been discussed before, and I'm wondering if there has ever been a solution found. When composing an email in Thunderbird, using grade 2 braille, it seems like the email is being flipped upsidedown, whenever we press the dot 8 (enter key). Does anyone know how to keep this from happening? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much in advance. |
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Re: DECtalk ACCESS32 and JAWS, was RE: Please remind me where to din and how to download voices
Pat Byrne
I had Keynote Gold at a job site - it couldn't pronounce the letter
"K",, so it said press any pee to continue, and so on. I
lived with it!
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Re: DECtalk ACCESS32 and JAWS, was RE: Please remind me where to din and how to download voices
K0LNY
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I always thought Keynote Gold sounded like someone
with a sock in their mouth.
I used it on some notetaker a long time back I
believe.
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Re: DECtalk ACCESS32 and JAWS, was RE: Please remind me where to din and how to download voices
Josh Kennedy
it works with NVDA. There is an addon that gives you decTalk 4.1 through 4.6. and I did offer freedom scientific the dlls so they could get it working with jaws once again as a vintage voice. and I bet Nuance also has source code for keynote gold multimedia so they may be able to bring that back as well.
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Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
Cornelius
There is an older version which sounded different from the new one. I believe in those time it is called IBM via voice
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, 17 June, 2022 9:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
That is Eloquence, which is the default synth in Jaws.
----- Original Message ----- From: Cornelius Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 7:59 PM Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
How about the IBM Veia voice? Will there be ways to make it work on JAWS?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
I wonder if jaws could be scripted to work withh the decTalk dlls I already have? |
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Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Josh Kennedy
I grew up with Keysoft version 1.33F for dos on a grid laptop and keynote gold SA synthesizer box from 1992, then got megaDots and used it with master touch screen reader. Then for the internet the school got me ASAP for dos that I used with a braille lite18 for its speech in 1995. My mom got me windows master screen reader by Blazie Engineering so I could play with windows 3.1 which I used with my braille lite but it froze when trying to use excel for windows3.1 and Blazie never fixed it. Then I got jaws 2.1 or 2.2 for windows95, switch to NVDA for a good while after college because jaws was not affordable. Then went back to jaws as soon as it became affordable for the average home user around 2018 or 2017 or so. And when I had jaws I used everything from decTalk access32, text assist, infovox230, keynote gold multinedia, and a braille lite18 for its speech synthesizers. But please freedom scientific bring back decTalk software 4.1 through 4.6. I offer you dlls if you need them to add them into jaws.
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Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
JM Casey
Hm. I’ts very, very close. But it sounds a little different to me. I’m sure they’re both based on the same code somehow as they sound so very similar.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: June 16, 2022 09:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
That is Eloquence, which is the default synth in Jaws.
----- Original Message ----- From: Cornelius Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 7:59 PM Subject: Re: jaws and vintage classic voices
How about the IBM Veia voice? Will there be ways to make it work on JAWS?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
I wonder if jaws could be scripted to work withh the decTalk dlls I already have? |
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Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Josh Kennedy
I also have to say that decTalk 4.1 through 4.6 works great with NVDA ok well that is if you know how to modify manifest.ini files to keep it running with the latest NVDA that is. But please please let my decTalk dlls work with jaws! It was the most popular synthesizer back in the 80s and 90s. DecTalk was so popular that it even worked with KeySoft, pulsedata's personal informational manager software. decTalk could sing, make touch tone phone sounds, play tones, and play .wav files if you wished. I offer all my decTalk dlls the files and the dtalk-us.dic decTalk dictionary file to freedom scientific for implementation into jaws as a vintage software tts. I hope they take me up on my offer!
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