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Re: Firefox 40 question

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Thanks for confirming this behaviour Brad! I am also finding that the focus is jumping not only from tab to tab, but also to other programs I have open. Quite annoying.

Cheers,

Russell

On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I had that problem for a long time on some websites, but it hasn't happened to me in months! When I used to have that problem, it was generally when I had a tab open (but I wasn't on that tab), and that tab kept refreshing itself. When it refreshed, Firefox would start to read it and JAWS would act like I was on that tab, but in fact, I wasn't and interacting with the screen I thought was in front of me didn't work. But again, I can't remember the last time I had that problem.

Oddly, tonight my Firefox started crashing, and I realized my Adblock add-on had been disabled.

Brad

On 8/31/2015 9:12 PM, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw wrote:
I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also takes a very long time to load some web pages.

Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?

Thanks,

Russell
On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

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Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
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Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Firefox 40 question

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Thanks, I’ll try this tomorrow at work.

Cheers,

Russell

On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:17 PM, majno via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

go to firefox option and disable the "load tab check.

El 31/08/2015 a las 21:12, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw escribió:
I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also takes a very long time to load some web pages.

Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?

Thanks,

Russell
On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

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Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: adblock was: Firefox 40 question

Brad Martin
 

I got Adblock from http://www.getadblock.com

Hint: I found I had to save the file, then use the "install add-on from file" option in the add-ons manager, because I couldn't figure out how to work the little popup window that opened when I tried to download the add-on.

Brad

On 9/1/2015 4:16 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
Hi Brad. I searched Fire Fox for adblock but did not find one just called adblock. Lots of pluses and youtube and forks. What about this one?
AdBlock Lite
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-lite-firefox/?src=api

Bob
On 8/31/2015 7:40 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
Tom and Gennie,

Control L is working fine for me with Firefox 40.0.3. I have had a couple of occasions where it didn't work for some reason, but they're few and far between. To Gennie's point about Firefox crashing, I discovered that the ads were most of the problem. I installed the Adblock add-on for Firefox, and most of my crashes went away. Occasionally a video will cause Firefox to crash even still, but it's way better than it was without Adblock. (Not to be confused with Adblock+ which I have not tried.)

Tom, I often enter a URL (or paste one) into the Windows Run box. So press Windows key and the letter r, then type or paste in the URL. If Firefox is not your default browser, the process is a little different. Press Windows key and the letter r, then type
firefox url
for instance
firefox www.google.com

There's your work around if you need it.


Brad



On 8/31/2015 8:08 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Jenny:

I can't even get it to work with one address, let alone multiple addresses.

Would be interested in any fixes people come up with.

For now, reluctantly, it's back to Internet Explorer.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:07 PM
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Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Firefox 40 question

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
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Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.


Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.


However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.


Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?


I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.


I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.


Thank you.


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I don't know what Microsoft David is. I could search for it.

I did go to the net and found that there was something about downloading
Microsoft David Voice.

I had a whole lot going on this evening, so just got back to this.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Carolyn that is great. Does anyone know if Microsoft david is present on
windows10? Are there any new voices under the sapi interface under text to
speech in control panel?

On 01/09/2015, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Working finr on Desktop Windows 10. If Carolyn worked as well as JAWS
does, well, I probably wouldn't be on tech lists other than to give help.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Peterson via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:01 PM
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Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

JAWS 16 is working fairly well with Windows 10 on my laptop. It's
certainly much more than minimal. If JAWS 16 latest build isn't
working well for you, you need to uninstall and reinstall it. It will
work much better after that.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Tesar via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:30 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Hello to new Windows 10 users,

I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7
and it had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to
make a net connection.

I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications.
That part worked.

Now some notes to keep in mind.

The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of
NVDA
2015.3 works much better.

To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new
laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until
JAWS
16 and 17 come out.

In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But
JAWS might not help.

I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a
connection path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu
with ESCAPE.

Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There
might be a network item to select.

Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the
edit field. JAWS 16 will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA
you can arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.

Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.

Peter T.

On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
Hello Listers,

I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for
the network. in other words, I can not get on the net.

Please help!

oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I
need
to
know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know
about them.

Thanks!





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Re: Need Moderator assistance please.

O.Addison Gethers
 

I was having the same problem too !! I did wrote to the moderator and have not heard anything from the moderator at all!!
Addison

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Cc: Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:44 PM
Subject: Need Moderator assistance please.


I apologize for writing the entire list. I tried but could never find an email address for the list moderator. I need assistance. Would one of the moderators please contact me off list? I apologize in advance for this, but I just cannot figure out the list issue I am having; I do not see my own emails posted to the list, although I believe they are going through.

Tim Ford
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Re: Firefox 40 question

Tom Behler
 

Mike:

I'll do this, especially if I continue to have problems getting control L to
work.

I really like Firefox, but do find it to be flaky at times with Jaws.

Tom Behler

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:38 PM
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Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I would try pressing Alt D instead of Control L.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I
can paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm
then able to open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent
change in Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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No longer can I search on Netflix

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

Can anyone do a title search on Netflix?

A year ago the Canadian Netflixsite was improved. I used to use the search edit field. Now there is asearch icon which JAWS cannot find.

Does the American Netflix site have the same issue?

Peter T.
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warning was: Learning JAWS scripting

Robert Logue
 

Reported Unwanted Software Page!

This web page at grabbag.alacorncomputer.com has been reported to contain unwanted software and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

First time Fire Fox ever gave me this kind of warning.
How do I contact the owner?

Hope someone finds that book.

Bob

On 8/13/2015 4:50 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
Thanks, Mario. I like your idea of a sort of, "let's learn how to program -
using JAWS scripting". It makes a lot of sense to teach basic programming,
using JSL as an example. The idea has a lot of merit.

While looking for Kenneth Gould article, I found this:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/jawsscripting.html
Looks like some valuable information. But if you know where the Gould
article is, could you email the address? Or post it here? Or to my blog? Or
all of the above... LOL

I'll put in as much time on this as I can, but it's one of those big
projects. I need to review all the available information first. Then
actually become competent with JSL, otherwise I'm just blowing hot air.
Finally, I can move forward with some kind of wikibook. Anyhow, I'll blog as
I go.

Thanks for the feedback.
-Paul




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Jfw
Paul, since no one has responded, here's my thought:

in addition to your ideas, what the blind user who wants to get into
writing
JAWS scripts really needs is to learn basic concepts of programming in
order
to do the nifty stuff, like using functions, arrays, etc.

about 12 years ago when I tried my hand at scripting,there was a document
called "Everything you wanted to know about scripting, ...", written by
Kenneth A. Gould. I think it's still on FS's website or some where
else... it
was divided into two parts.

the first part dealt with the basic stuff, like how to get started,
syntax, etc.
but the second part dealt with stuff that assumed that the user had prior
programming knowledge about concepts, techniques, etc.
like the knowledge one would attain after programming for a while... a
good while.

since you've programmed for about 3 decades,... I think it was you, ...
you could fill in the missing explanation that a newbie would need to
comprehend before attempting to try their hand at scripting.

creating a wiki sounds like a good idea, this way other experienced
programmers could also contribute to the cause, working out explainations
of different concepts, and whatever else would be important. but it should
be that a newbie needs to register and login in order to read and/or
contribute. and I'd also suggest that only the experienced programmers
have the right to add/modify these materials that teach the needed
concepts and explainations, effectively preventing mis information by any
newbie. the experienced programmer who would want to contribute would
have to send an email request , to you?, to be approved. if this last part
doesn't sit well with you, something has to be done to ensure that the
newbie is not mis informed of explainations and whatever else would be
important to understand.

your thoughts?


On 8/12/2015 2:53 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
Hi all. A few days ago, there was some discussion on learning JAWS
scripting. I've started learning it myself, and wanted to post some
thoughts.

First, I've decided to blog about JSL as I learn it. My blog page is
here:
https://skewmatrix.wordpress.com/ . No advertisements or popups, just
straight information about JSL whenever I learn something interesting.
The "JSL #1" post enumerates the available JAWS Scripting Language
resources that I've found. Please post comments if you know of other
resources.
Second, I'm toying with the idea of starting an online book project
about JSL, for example at wikibooks.com. The advantage of putting this
book online as a wikibook is that the information would be much more
likely to stay up-to-date and relevant; people could immediately
correct any typos or mistakes; and of course the book would be free to
all and readily available online. I have written technical books in
the past, so this wouldn't be too much of a stretch for me. (I just
need to learn it first. Ha ha.)

The question is: In light of the wonderful documentation from Freedom
Scientific that is already available, what kind of content would I /
we need to provide in this new online resource in order to make it
worthwhile? What would you like to know about JSL that you can't
already learn from the FS docs? Would we want something like a brief
overview of JAWS scripting? Or maybe a "quick start guide" to get you
up and running with the basics? Or possibly a "scripting gems" kind of
book, with several examples of JAWS scripts? Or a language reference?
Or all of the above? Of course, "we don't need this, the FS docs are
fine" is
also an acceptable response.
Any thoughts or comments... Thanks...
-Paul



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Re: data graphing ideas?

Robert Logue
 

Thanks Marianne. I'm glad to hear there are actually tools that work. I'm checking out Dr. Robinson's videos now.

Bob.

On 8/26/2015 2:10 PM, Marianne Denning via Jfw wrote:
I asked my technology trainer who does this all of the time. Her name
is Dr. Denise Robinson and here are some videos that show that it can
be done. She may have some lessons you can buy that walks you through
the steps.

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:01:48 -0400
Subject: Re: data graphing ideas?
To: Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com>

send proof
here are videos to go to--my kids do it all the time--tons more but here
are a few
How to make a curved line in a graph using Excel and talking software
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=momCqtdMSM0>

Excel-plotting a line plot graph-copy to Word for Math
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPqTDxa58_E>

Create a scatter graph with trend line using talking software/key commands
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZG2IsoHStQ>

Blind students do Math- inequalities with Excel and answer problems in Word
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDSNYugqr_Y>

Just in case they want to do it with PPT also
Blind student completes a sophisticated Excel then inserts into PowerPoint
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kt0Lxmjik4>

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com>
wrote:

I thought you might know the answer to this question. If you reply to
me I can post your answer. I think it would be possible.

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 15:31:28 +0000
Subject: RE: data graphing ideas?
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Monique Lalonde <Monique.Lalonde@cnib.ca>

Hi All,

If JAWS can read graph information in Excel, does anyone know how
accessible it would be to create a graph in Excel and copy it into a
Word document? I may need to do this for an Economics class.
Thanks.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David G.
Carlson Via iPhone via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David G. Carlson Via iPhone
Subject: Re: data graphing ideas?

Yes it does exist.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone using the handwriting feature.

On Aug 26, 2015, at 06:39, Richard B. McDonald via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Unless I am mistaken, I think somewhere I read that JAWS has a feature that
will describe a graph in Excel. I cannot remember where I read that, but I
suspect it was in the "help" areas for JAWS in Excel. Has anyone else ever
run across this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: Re: data graphing ideas?

I think you're on the right track.
the Orion TI-84 Plus Talking Graphing Calculator employs:
. Graph functions and trace points made accessible with speech and audible
tone.
. Listen to entire graph, including special sounds for negative regions and
axis crossing points.

if you want to check it out for more ideas:

https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Orion%20TI-84%20Plus%
20Talking%20Graphing%20Calculator_1-07340-00P_10001_11051

since you're an experienced programmer, you're more enabled to "make it
so".
but remember, newbie wanna be scriptwriters need to start from the bottom
of
the barrel... have you ever considered to join the JAWS scripting ml? not
to shew you away from this ml, but you can pose more technical questions
about scripting snafoos to get assistance from other experienced
sdcripters.

On 8/20/2015 11:44 AM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
I'll start by saying I don't know of any off-the-shelf graphing
solutions for visually impaired users. So everything that follows is sort
of "what if"
hypothetical stuff, just thinking out loud.

Presenting data to blind and visually impaired users seems like a
mostly uninvestigated area, wide open for new research. There is an
annual academic conference called IEEE Vis: http://ieeevis.org/.
Historically, their focus is to present new research in different ways
to visualize data. As far as I know, they have never bitten off the
challenge of presenting data in non-visual ways. But if you have any
pull in the academic community, perhaps you could get some grad
students to research ways to display data non-visually, with the
end-goal of getting their research published through this conference.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I could imagine a bar chart with
items left-to-right (along the x axis) and values along the y axis. We
could use JAWS to read the value for each item, but instead of just
reading numbers, modulate the JAWS speech pitch in accordance with the
value: larger values would be read with a higher pitch, smaller values
with a lower pitch. So, instead of just hearing a bunch of numbers,
you'd hear pitch changes with each number that would allow the user to
immediately place the value relative to other values. The pitch
changes would give you a "picture" of the values relative to each other.

I'm sure that's a pretty naive approach, but as far as I know, no one
has tried it yet. It might be an interesting challenge for the JAWS
scripting language.
-Paul



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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

HAMILTON
 

Specifically, it applies to what is "echoed"/spoken when you enter text, not
to reading text in general. And yes, it does not apply to punctuation.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to text
and not punctuation, correct?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
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Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
character, word, character and word or none.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example. Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis. For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else. I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly. Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is
most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most? Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
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Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: data graphing ideas?

Robert Logue
 

Thanks Mario, for pointing out the graphing calculator. Also, I know I should just start reading more about scripting Jaws and join those forums.

Thing is. I don't see much for personal finance for the blind in any platform. A few apps and programs but nothing I could even get a grip on or that worked reliably for me. It's like the information presented is not formatted in a way I can picture or make sense of.

I'm 62 years old and just a bit slower than I used to be.

Bob

On 8/25/2015 8:43 AM, Mario via Jfw wrote:
I think you're on the right track.
the Orion TI-84 Plus Talking Graphing Calculator employs:
• Graph functions and trace points made accessible with speech and audible tone.
• Listen to entire graph, including special sounds for negative regions and axis crossing points.

if you want to check it out for more ideas:
https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Orion%20TI-84%20Plus%20Talking%20Graphing%20Calculator_1-07340-00P_10001_11051

since you're an experienced programmer, you're more enabled to "make it so". but remember, newbie wanna be scriptwriters need to start from the bottom of the barrel... have you ever considered to join the JAWS scripting ml? not to shew you away from this ml, but you can pose more technical questions about scripting snafoos to get assistance from other experienced sdcripters.

On 8/20/2015 11:44 AM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
I'll start by saying I don't know of any off-the-shelf graphing solutions
for visually impaired users. So everything that follows is sort of "what if"
hypothetical stuff, just thinking out loud.

Presenting data to blind and visually impaired users seems like a mostly
uninvestigated area, wide open for new research. There is an annual academic
conference called IEEE Vis: http://ieeevis.org/. Historically, their focus
is to present new research in different ways to visualize data. As far as I
know, they have never bitten off the challenge of presenting data in
non-visual ways. But if you have any pull in the academic community, perhaps
you could get some grad students to research ways to display data
non-visually, with the end-goal of getting their research published through
this conference.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I could imagine a bar chart with items
left-to-right (along the x axis) and values along the y axis. We could use
JAWS to read the value for each item, but instead of just reading numbers,
modulate the JAWS speech pitch in accordance with the value: larger values
would be read with a higher pitch, smaller values with a lower pitch. So,
instead of just hearing a bunch of numbers, you'd hear pitch changes with
each number that would allow the user to immediately place the value
relative to other values. The pitch changes would give you a "picture" of
the values relative to each other.

I'm sure that's a pretty naive approach, but as far as I know, no one has
tried it yet. It might be an interesting challenge for the JAWS scripting
language.
-Paul



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Re: Need Moderator assistance please.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Tim Ford, try this:

jfw-owner@lists.the-jdh.com

I copied from contacts.
jfw-owner@lists.the-jdh.com

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Need Moderator assistance please.

I apologize for writing the entire list. I tried but could never find an
email address for the list moderator. I need assistance. Would one of the
moderators please contact me off list? I apologize in advance for this, but
I just cannot figure out the list issue I am having; I do not see my own
emails posted to the list, although I believe they are going through.

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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

You write. That is why you should rather use the customize
punctioation feature. You can either bypass some cymbals or change the
way they are spoken.

On 01/09/2015, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to
text
and not punctuation, correct?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
character, word, character and word or none.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example. Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis. For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse
numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else. I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly. Come
to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls
the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is
most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose
the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most? Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level
If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be
used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear
the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

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From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow
past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Carolyn that is great. Does anyone know if Microsoft david is present
on windows10? Are there any new voices under the sapi interface under
text to speech in control panel?

On 01/09/2015, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Working finr on Desktop Windows 10. If Carolyn worked as well as JAWS does,
well, I probably wouldn't be on tech lists other than to give help.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa
Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Londa Peterson <lpeterson@vrocp.org>
Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

JAWS 16 is working fairly well with Windows 10 on my laptop. It's certainly
much more than minimal. If JAWS 16 latest build isn't working well for you,
you need to uninstall and reinstall it. It will work much better after
that.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:30 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Hello to new Windows 10 users,

I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7 and it
had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to make a net
connection.

I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications.
That part worked.

Now some notes to keep in mind.

The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of NVDA
2015.3 works much better.

To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new
laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until JAWS
16 and 17 come out.

In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But JAWS
might not help.

I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a connection
path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu with ESCAPE.

Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There might
be
a network item to select.

Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the edit
field. JAWS 16 will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA you can
arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.

Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.

Peter T.

On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
Hello Listers,

I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for
the network. in other words, I can not get on the net.

Please help!

oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I
need
to
know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know
about them.

Thanks!





Carliss

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adblock was: Firefox 40 question

Robert Logue
 

Hi Brad. I searched Fire Fox for adblock but did not find one just called adblock. Lots of pluses and youtube and forks. What about this one?
AdBlock Lite
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-lite-firefox/?src=api

Bob

On 8/31/2015 7:40 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
Tom and Gennie,

Control L is working fine for me with Firefox 40.0.3. I have had a couple of occasions where it didn't work for some reason, but they're few and far between. To Gennie's point about Firefox crashing, I discovered that the ads were most of the problem. I installed the Adblock add-on for Firefox, and most of my crashes went away. Occasionally a video will cause Firefox to crash even still, but it's way better than it was without Adblock. (Not to be confused with Adblock+ which I have not tried.)

Tom, I often enter a URL (or paste one) into the Windows Run box. So press Windows key and the letter r, then type or paste in the URL. If Firefox is not your default browser, the process is a little different. Press Windows key and the letter r, then type
firefox url
for instance
firefox www.google.com

There's your work around if you need it.


Brad



On 8/31/2015 8:08 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Jenny:

I can't even get it to work with one address, let alone multiple addresses.

Would be interested in any fixes people come up with.

For now, reluctantly, it's back to Internet Explorer.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gennie Eachus
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Firefox 40 question

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; 'The Jaws for Windows
support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.


Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.


However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.


Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?


I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.


I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.


Thank you.


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: office 365, and "Microsoft Disability line" ...

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Microsoft Disability Line:

1800-936-5900

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:50 PM
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Cc: Jim Hamilton <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: office 365, and "Microsoft Disability line" ...

How does one contact the: " Microsoft Disability line"? I did not know
that such a thing existed! If this is intended for what it sounds like, it
could be a very good resource to keep handy!

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mcginnis,
Barbara via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara <barbara.mcginnis@dhhs.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: office 365

Why use Outlook Light? I use Office 2013/Office 365 at work and I am given
a choice of public or shared computer, private computer, or Outlook Light.
I always use private computer because no one using this computer but me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:46 AM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013. I can't say I've been a heavy user
lately, but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm
still running under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting
the thing.

Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off
hand the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page
freezes.
From memory, I log in, I don't find a settings link, or anything when using
the jaws curser, but there is this button menu to press for settings an aps.
I click that, I tab over to general, it expands, then I see the light
version and press enter on it. Then it freezes.
This is driving me bonkers lol. No check boxes, or nothing of the sort.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Niall
Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:26 AM
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Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,


Follow the steps as listed, but login using the below link first.


www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I clicked on the link in my previous email, and it brought me to a generic
Outlook login.
I inserted my student username and password, and I was logged into the lite
version of the email interface.

If your account is similar to mine, which I think it is, you should be able
to follow the steps in the below link to activate the more accessible view

http://tinyurl.com/qzvs2y7

Due to the differences in our time zones, it is night time here in Ireland.
So I probably won't see your reply for 9 or 10 hours, but let me know how it
goes.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I logged in, and it's still the same. Lol, I just realized I can navigate
by buttons to go from email to email, instead of pressing h.

Pressed x or A nothing was found. Since I have this email open, let me open
up one email and see if it makes me light up a cigarette, just a second...
Ok, I pressed enter on the email, it made the formsmode sound and I couldn't
down arrow, nothing. I can't find the body of the email to read about the
update to the strike lol.
I'm going to go smoke now...

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: office 365

Put a period in place of the second slash, and you should be brought to a
login page.

www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

So, I could type, www.outlook.com/staffemail/psd1.org?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:33 PM
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Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,

That is the usual procedure,
However, depending on the type of account, you may be able to login via
www.outlook.com.

In the case of my student email, I login via outlook.com/studentmail.ul.ie.

Maybe you could replace my information with what is after the @ sign in your
email address.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 24, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:


I just go to the district website from home, click the email link,

then click staff log in and enter the user name and password...?

Did I answer that correctly?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@gmail.com


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>] On Behalf Of Niall

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Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:09 PM

To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: office 365


Hi,


Do you access your email via outlook.com?

If so, there is a lite version of the email interface which is just

check boxes, links end headings.


http://tinyurl.com/qzvs2y7


There is also an Outlook app for iOS which might work.


Hope this helps.


Kind regards,


Niall


Sent from my iPod


On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

wrote:


At my job, we switched over to office 365, using the web based email

I'm unable to quickly navigate through the interface.


I can't remember what we used before lol, but I used to be able to

sign in, press x, to navigate from checkbox to checkbox and there was

a link for the subject, click it, read it, reply, rinse and repeat.

Now

I'm clueless!




All I can do is navigate heading-by-heading, and at times I get

lucky, am able to open up an email, but there is when the fun begins.

Reading the email, trying to forward, reply, even locating the send

button is a

chure!


I work for the school district, so I'm off for the summer and they

just switched over to office 365, and I'm trying to check emails from

home to get info about the possible strikes the teachers are

preparing for. Any tips on how to resolve this email issue?


Thank you!


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Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Working finr on Desktop Windows 10. If Carolyn worked as well as JAWS does,
well, I probably wouldn't be on tech lists other than to give help.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Londa Peterson <lpeterson@vrocp.org>
Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

JAWS 16 is working fairly well with Windows 10 on my laptop. It's certainly
much more than minimal. If JAWS 16 latest build isn't working well for you,
you need to uninstall and reinstall it. It will work much better after that.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:30 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Hello to new Windows 10 users,

I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7 and it
had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to make a net
connection.

I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications.
That part worked.

Now some notes to keep in mind.

The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of NVDA
2015.3 works much better.

To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new
laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until JAWS
16 and 17 come out.

In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But JAWS
might not help.

I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a connection
path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu with ESCAPE.

Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There might be
a network item to select.

Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the edit
field. JAWS 16 will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA you can
arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.

Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.

Peter T.

On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
Hello Listers,

I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for
the network. in other words, I can not get on the net.

Please help!

oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I
need
to
know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know
about them.

Thanks!





Carliss

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Re: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Soronel Haetir
 

Also note that if what you are searching on includes punctuation you
can often get away with breaking the entry there.

For instance, in windows programming there are a great many 'words' of
the form XX_COMBINEDWORDS, and often the same COMBINEDWORDS will
appear to the right of many different XX_ tags. You can then make
dictionary entries for just the COMBINEDWORDS (leaving off the
leading tag) and jaws will correctly use the replacement for the
trailing portion regardless of the leading tag.

On 9/1/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Thanks. That will come in handy.

... and, you would have to include the "*" in the "replacement word" box,
as well as in the "actual word" box. Correct?

Jim H

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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:52 PM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Library entries? You can use them when creating dictionary entries for a
root word and various derivatives. Unlike Dos search terms, they have to
come at the end, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:59 PM
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Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Can one use a "wildcard, usually a "*" when editing JAWS Library entries?

This question was brought to mind by the below message on another topic.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example. Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis. For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse
numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else. I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly. Come
to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls
the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is
most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose
the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most? Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level
If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be
used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear
the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow
past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: Firefox 40 question

Robert Logue
 

I guess the problem is with 40 and not with the version I have which is 40.0.3.

I really need to think about turning off automatic updating but it is not as safe.

I do seem to have fewer crashes lately.

Bob

On 9/1/2015 1:11 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
I seem to be having luck with ctrl+l in Fire Fox 40. I do notice that it has autofill turned on. Sometimes Jaws has trouble reading what's added when I start typing.

But, now it seems to be working just fine. I know. I'll forget about this thread and the problem will come up later.

I did make those changes to the Fire Fox configuration file that were suggested for screen reader users some time ago. Could that make a difference?

Just wondering. Are you pressing ctrl+l the second time while you are still in the edit box, or after the page you want loads.

Sometimes pressing tab moves out of the Search or enter address edit combo

box to a list of suggestions. Other times it moves to the search Bing or what ever your prefered search engine is. Somewhat confusing. Needs a manual for screen reader users.

Bob
On 8/31/2015 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw wrote:
Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; 'The Jaws for Windows
support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.


Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.


However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.


Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?


I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.


I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.


Thank you.


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Gennie Eachus <geachus@...>
 

It is still alt-tab. It moves you among open apps as usual.

-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:02 PM
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Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

What is the windows 10 equivalent keystroke for alt-tab????

thanks.
At 01:58 PM 9/1/2015, you wrote:
Also using JAWS 16 with Windows 10, and it works really well.

Allen

I use to have a handle on life, but it broke off!

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Peterson via Jfw
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Cc: Londa Peterson <lpeterson@vrocp.org>
Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

JAWS 16 is working fairly well with Windows 10 on my laptop. It's
certainly much more than minimal. If JAWS 16 latest build isn't working
well for you, you need to uninstall and reinstall it. It will work much
better after that.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Tesar via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:30 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Hello to new Windows 10 users,

I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7
and it had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to make
a net connection.

I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications.
That part worked.

Now some notes to keep in mind.

The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of
NVDA 2015.3 works much better.

To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new
laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until
JAWS
16 and 17 come out.

In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But
JAWS might not help.

I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a
connection path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu
with ESCAPE.

Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There
might be a network item to select.

Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the
edit field. JAWS 16 will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA
you can arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.

Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.

Peter T.

On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
Hello Listers,

I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings
for the network. in other words, I can not get on the net.

Please help!

oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I
need
to
know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know
about them.

Thanks!





Carliss

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