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Re: Start Menu not right, how to change its appearance.

 

Peter,

           I also think that one of your machines is still pre-Anniversary Update and the other is post-Anniversary update.

           To verify this, on each machine, hit the windows key and type the command "winver" (sans quotes, of course) and hit enter.  You will then get the "About Windows" dialog popping up.  If your version is 1511 then you are pre-Anniversary Update and if it's 1607 you're post-Anniversary Update.  I still know of a lot of machines that have not had the Anniversary Update applied.  The machine I'm writing from got the AU in the first week of release.  Two others in the house didn't get it for months after that, and there was at least a three week separation between each of them having it applied.  One also had it fail several times until Microsoft fixed something that was causing certain machines to fail to install the AU.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Start Menu not right, how to change its appearance.

 

One change that I found very ugly and confusing with the advent of the Anniversary Update was the disappearance of the jump list button.  I have asked all over the place if there is a way to get it back but no one has yet to find a way.  Your description of the start menu means you have the Anniversary Update

That being said, you can still get to your jump list, just via a different method.  Once you have focus on the program, whether in Most Used or further down the apps list (which was also new with AU) you can do any one of the following:

  • literally right click if you use the mouse or mouse pad buttons
  • hit the Applications/Menu button
  • hit SHIFT+F10

and the context menu that pops up has "pin to start" and "more" as its first two items followed by the old-fashioned jump list under the heading "Recent".  It infuriated me when the jump list button disappeared and I never recall having read anywhere that the above technique was the replacement for the button and only stumbled upon it by accident at some point.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Start Menu not right, how to change its appearance.

 

Hi,
See if "use Start full screen" is toggled to on, and if so, press SPACE to turn it off.
Cheers,
joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Start Menu not right, how to change its appearance.

I know this can be fixed in <win>+i -> Personalization -> Start but I forget exactly what changes are required.

On 10/30/16, Peter Tesar <ptesar@...> wrote:
Hello,

I have two computers. On the laptop, with Windows 10 Pro, JAWS 17
and now 18, has always allowed me to navigate inside the Start Menu. I
could go up and down and hear everything.


However, on my desktop, with windows 10 Home (upgraded from Windows 7)
JAWS 17 did not work inside the Start Menu. now I have JAWS 18 and
maybe the Windows anniversary edition.

Now the Start menu is readable with JAWS 18. However, something is not
right.

Arrowing down, I first hear the most used list and then what sounds
like all the applications, grouped alphabetically. .
If I highlight the most used MS Word, the tab key does not put me on
the jump list button.

I can do this on the laptop. Also, on the laptop, if I arrow up
twice,I hear the Shutdown button. On the desktop, arrowing up , I hear nothing.

Are there different appearances for the way the Start Menu appears?
Maybe it was inadvertently changed> Any suggestions?

Thank You.

Peter T.


--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: Start Menu not right, how to change its appearance.

Soronel Haetir
 

I know this can be fixed in <win>+i -> Personalization -> Start but I
forget exactly what changes are required.

On 10/30/16, Peter Tesar <ptesar@...> wrote:
Hello,

I have two computers. On the laptop, with Windows 10 Pro, JAWS 17
and now 18, has always allowed me to navigate inside the Start Menu. I
could go up and down and hear everything.


However, on my desktop, with windows 10 Home (upgraded from Windows 7)
JAWS 17 did not work inside the Start Menu. now I have JAWS 18 and maybe
the Windows anniversary edition.

Now the Start menu is readable with JAWS 18. However, something is not
right.

Arrowing down, I first hear the most used list and then what sounds like
all the applications, grouped alphabetically. .
If I highlight the most used MS Word, the tab key does not put me on the
jump list button.

I can do this on the laptop. Also, on the laptop, if I arrow up twice,I
hear the Shutdown button. On the desktop, arrowing up , I hear nothing.

Are there different appearances for the way the Start Menu appears?
Maybe it was inadvertently changed> Any suggestions?

Thank You.

Peter T.

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Start Menu not right, how to change its appearance.

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

    I have two computers. On the laptop, with Windows 10 Pro, JAWS 17 and now 18, has always allowed me to navigate inside the Start Menu. I could go up and down and hear everything.


However, on my desktop, with windows 10 Home (upgraded from Windows 7) JAWS 17 did not work inside the Start Menu. now I have JAWS 18 and maybe the Windows anniversary edition.

Now the Start menu is readable with JAWS 18. However, something is not right.

Arrowing down, I first hear the most used list and then what sounds like all the applications, grouped alphabetically. .
If I highlight the most used MS Word, the tab key does not put me on the jump list button.

I can do this on the laptop. Also, on the laptop, if I arrow up twice,I hear the Shutdown button. On the desktop, arrowing up , I hear nothing.

Are there different appearances for the way the Start Menu  appears?
Maybe it was inadvertently changed> Any suggestions?

Thank You.

Peter T.


Re: Request For Steps For Successfully Downloading, Accessing, And Installing New Jaws Vocalizer Voices

Tom Behler
 

Thanks very much, Soronel.

These instructions are very helpful.

I noticed a few skipped numbers toward the end of the list of steps, but I assume no steps are missing.

Again, thanks so much!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Request For Steps For Successfully Downloading, Accessing, And Installing New Jaws Vocalizer Voices

I believe the following instructions are complete for English language versions of jaws:

1) Bring up the jaws help menu:
Hit <jaws>+j. Next if you run jaws with a visible program window hit <alt>+h, otherwise just hit 'h'.

2) Select 'More voices' and hit <enter>

3) After the browser window opens and loads select "Vocalizer Expressive Version 2" from the Synthesizers combo
4) Select the desired language from the Languages combobox

5) Hit enter on one of the voice package choices that appears below the languages combo.

6) If using Firefox a dialog will appear asking whether you want to save the file, hit tab to the Save file button and hit <space>, you may get a further dialog asking where to save the file, the default location is likely sufficient so just hit <enter>

If using internet explorer hit <alt>+n to activate the information bar, tab to the "save" button and hit <space>

7) Hit <ctrl>+j to bring up the recent downloads window, wait for the package to finish downloading and with the package selected hit <enter>

8) Hit <alt>+n, <alt>+a, <alt>+n, <space> <alt>+i, <alt>+y, and then <alt>+f to go through the installer

9) Hit <jaws>+f4 then <enter> to shutdown jaws.

10) Hit <win>+r, then type "jaws18" followed by <enter> to restart jaws

11) Hit <jaws>+j. Next if you run jaws with a visible program window hit <alt>+o, otherwise just 'o'

12) Go down to 'Voices' hit <right> then <enter> on "Voice adjustment"

13) In the synthesizers drop-down select "Vocalizer expressive" (may be "Vocalizer expressive (factory default)".

14) Tab until you reach the "Person" drop-down and select the desired voice.

16) Hit tab and change other settings as desired until you reach the "OK" button at which point hit <space>

18) You will be asked if you want to make vocalizer expressive your default voice profile, answer yes or no as you desire

19) If you answered no and want to use vocalizer expressive for a particular program with that program running and active (meaning it currently has focus) hit <jaws>+<ctrl+s. Hit <tab> to switch to the voice profile for the active program list and select vocalizer expressive then hit <enter>

On 10/30/16, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Under the JAWS help menu, second item, is "Get more voices".

I would start there.
At 03:58 PM 10/30/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I have been reading the discussion regarding the new Jaws vocalizer
voices with great interest here.

However, I’m starting to get bogged down in all of the details
regarding exactly how to download, access, and install them.

I know that a number of folks on the list are spending a lot of time
with this entire process, and I appreciate that greatly, since I don’t
have the time to do so.

At some point, it would be appreciated if someone would outline the
exact steps for downloading, accessing, and installing the new voices
so that all of us could benefit from your hard work.

Please know that I’m not being critical here. … In fact, it’s just the
opposite. I want to be able to take advantage of the new voices if
possible using a comprehensive set of steps that you have been able to
develop through time and experimentation.

Thanks for listening!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: Request For Steps For Successfully Downloading, Accessing, And Installing New Jaws Vocalizer Voices

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Ann.

That is indeed a good starting place.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Request For Steps For Successfully Downloading, Accessing, And
Installing New Jaws Vocalizer Voices

Under the JAWS help menu, second item, is "Get more voices".

I would start there.
At 03:58 PM 10/30/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I have been reading the discussion regarding the new Jaws vocalizer
voices with great interest here.

However, I'm starting to get bogged down in all of the details
regarding exactly how to download, access, and install them.

I know that a number of folks on the list are spending a lot of time
with this entire process, and I appreciate that greatly, since I don't
have the time to do so.

At some point, it would be appreciated if someone would outline the
exact steps for downloading, accessing, and installing the new voices
so that all of us could benefit from your hard work.

Please know that I'm not being critical here. . In fact, it's just the
opposite. I want to be able to take advantage of the new voices if
possible using a comprehensive set of steps that you have been able to
develop through time and experimentation.

Thanks for listening!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



Re: Request For Steps For Successfully Downloading, Accessing, And Installing New Jaws Vocalizer Voices

Soronel Haetir
 

I believe the following instructions are complete for English language
versions of jaws:

1) Bring up the jaws help menu:
Hit <jaws>+j. Next if you run jaws with a visible program window hit
<alt>+h, otherwise just hit 'h'.

2) Select 'More voices' and hit <enter>

3) After the browser window opens and loads select "Vocalizer
Expressive Version 2" from the Synthesizers combo
4) Select the desired language from the Languages combobox

5) Hit enter on one of the voice package choices that appears below
the languages combo.

6) If using Firefox a dialog will appear asking whether you want to
save the file, hit tab to the Save file button and hit <space>, you
may get a further dialog asking where to save the file, the default
location is likely sufficient so just hit <enter>

If using internet explorer hit <alt>+n to activate the information
bar, tab to the "save" button and hit <space>

7) Hit <ctrl>+j to bring up the recent downloads window, wait for the
package to finish downloading and with the package selected hit
<enter>

8) Hit <alt>+n, <alt>+a, <alt>+n, <space> <alt>+i, <alt>+y, and then
<alt>+f to go through the installer

9) Hit <jaws>+f4 then <enter> to shutdown jaws.

10) Hit <win>+r, then type "jaws18" followed by <enter> to restart jaws

11) Hit <jaws>+j. Next if you run jaws with a visible program window
hit <alt>+o, otherwise just 'o'

12) Go down to 'Voices' hit <right> then <enter> on "Voice adjustment"

13) In the synthesizers drop-down select "Vocalizer expressive" (may
be "Vocalizer expressive (factory default)".

14) Tab until you reach the "Person" drop-down and select the desired voice.

16) Hit tab and change other settings as desired until you reach the
"OK" button at which point hit <space>

18) You will be asked if you want to make vocalizer expressive your
default voice profile, answer yes or no as you desire

19) If you answered no and want to use vocalizer expressive for a
particular program with that program running and active (meaning it
currently has focus) hit <jaws>+<ctrl+s. Hit <tab> to switch to the
voice profile for the active program list and select vocalizer
expressive then hit <enter>

On 10/30/16, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Under the JAWS help menu, second item, is "Get more voices".

I would start there.
At 03:58 PM 10/30/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I have been reading the discussion regarding the
new Jaws vocalizer voices with great interest here.

However, I’m starting to get bogged down in all
of the details regarding exactly how to download, access, and install
them.

I know that a number of folks on the list are
spending a lot of time with this entire process,
and I appreciate that greatly, since I don’t have the time to do so.

At some point, it would be appreciated if
someone would outline the exact steps for
downloading, accessing, and installing the new
voices so that all of us could benefit from your hard work.

Please know that I’m not being critical here. …
In fact, it’s just the opposite. I want to be
able to take advantage of the new voices if
possible using a comprehensive set of steps that
you have been able to develop through time and experimentation.

Thanks for listening!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: Free virus software that works well with jaws version 17

Feliciano G
 

If you're referring to mcAfee, I suggest you do the free trial if they offer it  to see if you like it before purchasing.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Melissa Stott <mstott69@...> wrote:

I think I may change to that after my subscription with AVG runs out. I have the paid version.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Feliciano G <theblindman12v@...> wrote:

I enjoy using the built-in antivirus windows defender. McAfee is accessible if you want to go that route. That is what I have on my work computer 

On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Melissa Stott <mstott69@...> wrote:

I do not like AVG as well as I used to. It used to be more user-friendly, especially when it came to configuring certain settings.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Melissa & Laura,

         If you are someone who has not had anything quarantined in as long as you can remember then virtually any antivirus or security suite will do.

         I used to love AVG but have come to hate it with a burning passion because it has become exquisitely oversensitive and false positive issues are enough to drive me to drink (almost)!

         On my Windows 8 and Windows 10 machines I have been using Windows Defender, which is the Microsoft antivirus included with the operating system, for several years now.  This is not the same as Windows Defender under Windows 7.  On Windows 7 and earlier Microsoft Security Essentials (which can still be downloaded for those systems) was the antivirus product.

          I have yet to hear someone to say that Windows Defender (or Microsoft Security Essentials) does not "play well" with various screen readers.  And, regardless of what various tech geek bench tests give as ratings for the various antivirus products, I don't know of anyone personally (and that includes among my clients) who has ever gotten an infection while using either of the two previously mentioned.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Free virus software that works well with jaws version 17

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I think I may change to that after my subscription with AVG runs out. I have the paid version.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Feliciano G <theblindman12v@...> wrote:

I enjoy using the built-in antivirus windows defender. McAfee is accessible if you want to go that route. That is what I have on my work computer 

On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Melissa Stott <mstott69@...> wrote:

I do not like AVG as well as I used to. It used to be more user-friendly, especially when it came to configuring certain settings.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Melissa & Laura,

         If you are someone who has not had anything quarantined in as long as you can remember then virtually any antivirus or security suite will do.

         I used to love AVG but have come to hate it with a burning passion because it has become exquisitely oversensitive and false positive issues are enough to drive me to drink (almost)!

         On my Windows 8 and Windows 10 machines I have been using Windows Defender, which is the Microsoft antivirus included with the operating system, for several years now.  This is not the same as Windows Defender under Windows 7.  On Windows 7 and earlier Microsoft Security Essentials (which can still be downloaded for those systems) was the antivirus product.

          I have yet to hear someone to say that Windows Defender (or Microsoft Security Essentials) does not "play well" with various screen readers.  And, regardless of what various tech geek bench tests give as ratings for the various antivirus products, I don't know of anyone personally (and that includes among my clients) who has ever gotten an infection while using either of the two previously mentioned.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Request For Steps For Successfully Downloading, Accessing, And Installing New Jaws Vocalizer Voices

Ann Byrne
 

Under the JAWS help menu, second item, is "Get more voices".

I would start there.

At 03:58 PM 10/30/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I have been reading the discussion regarding the new Jaws vocalizer voices with great interest here.

However, I’m starting to get bogged down in all of the details regarding exactly how to download, access, and install them.

I know that a number of folks on the list are spending a lot of time with this entire process, and I appreciate that greatly, since I don’t have the time to do so.

At some point, it would be appreciated if someone would outline the exact steps for downloading, accessing, and installing the new voices so that all of us could benefit from your hard work.

Please know that I’m not being critical here. … In fact, it’s just the opposite. I want to be able to take advantage of the new voices if possible using a comprehensive set of steps that you have been able to develop through time and experimentation.

Thanks for listening!


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



Re: Free virus software that works well with jaws version 17

Feliciano G
 

I enjoy using the built-in antivirus windows defender. McAfee is accessible if you want to go that route. That is what I have on my work computer 

On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Melissa Stott <mstott69@...> wrote:

I do not like AVG as well as I used to. It used to be more user-friendly, especially when it came to configuring certain settings.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Melissa & Laura,

         If you are someone who has not had anything quarantined in as long as you can remember then virtually any antivirus or security suite will do.

         I used to love AVG but have come to hate it with a burning passion because it has become exquisitely oversensitive and false positive issues are enough to drive me to drink (almost)!

         On my Windows 8 and Windows 10 machines I have been using Windows Defender, which is the Microsoft antivirus included with the operating system, for several years now.  This is not the same as Windows Defender under Windows 7.  On Windows 7 and earlier Microsoft Security Essentials (which can still be downloaded for those systems) was the antivirus product.

          I have yet to hear someone to say that Windows Defender (or Microsoft Security Essentials) does not "play well" with various screen readers.  And, regardless of what various tech geek bench tests give as ratings for the various antivirus products, I don't know of anyone personally (and that includes among my clients) who has ever gotten an infection while using either of the two previously mentioned.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Free virus software that works well with jaws version 17

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I do not like AVG as well as I used to. It used to be more user-friendly, especially when it came to configuring certain settings.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Melissa & Laura,

         If you are someone who has not had anything quarantined in as long as you can remember then virtually any antivirus or security suite will do.

         I used to love AVG but have come to hate it with a burning passion because it has become exquisitely oversensitive and false positive issues are enough to drive me to drink (almost)!

         On my Windows 8 and Windows 10 machines I have been using Windows Defender, which is the Microsoft antivirus included with the operating system, for several years now.  This is not the same as Windows Defender under Windows 7.  On Windows 7 and earlier Microsoft Security Essentials (which can still be downloaded for those systems) was the antivirus product.

          I have yet to hear someone to say that Windows Defender (or Microsoft Security Essentials) does not "play well" with various screen readers.  And, regardless of what various tech geek bench tests give as ratings for the various antivirus products, I don't know of anyone personally (and that includes among my clients) who has ever gotten an infection while using either of the two previously mentioned.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Free virus software that works well with jaws version 17

 

Melissa & Laura,

         If you are someone who has not had anything quarantined in as long as you can remember then virtually any antivirus or security suite will do.

         I used to love AVG but have come to hate it with a burning passion because it has become exquisitely oversensitive and false positive issues are enough to drive me to drink (almost)!

         On my Windows 8 and Windows 10 machines I have been using Windows Defender, which is the Microsoft antivirus included with the operating system, for several years now.  This is not the same as Windows Defender under Windows 7.  On Windows 7 and earlier Microsoft Security Essentials (which can still be downloaded for those systems) was the antivirus product.

          I have yet to hear someone to say that Windows Defender (or Microsoft Security Essentials) does not "play well" with various screen readers.  And, regardless of what various tech geek bench tests give as ratings for the various antivirus products, I don't know of anyone personally (and that includes among my clients) who has ever gotten an infection while using either of the two previously mentioned.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Request For Steps For Successfully Downloading, Accessing, And Installing New Jaws Vocalizer Voices

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I have been reading the discussion regarding the new Jaws vocalizer voices with great interest here.

 

However, I’m starting to get bogged down in all of the details regarding exactly how to download, access, and install them.

 

I know that a number of folks on the list are spending a lot of time with this entire process, and I appreciate that greatly, since I don’t have the time to do so.

 

At some point, it would be appreciated if someone would outline the exact steps for downloading, accessing, and installing the new voices so that all of us could benefit from your hard work.

 

Please know that I’m not being critical here. … In fact, it’s just the opposite.  I want to be able to take advantage of the new voices if possible using a comprehensive set of steps that you have been able to develop through time and experimentation.

 

Thanks for listening!

 

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties

Dave Mitchell
 

Thanks, I did go to the migrate choice in the utilities list but it got hung up and generated an error choice report.
Back to the list of voices.  David
 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties
 

I'm not sure about that, but if you press insert plus control plus s, you will be quickly able to choose the last saved voice profile.  In other words, if you're listening to Nathan and you want Eloquence again, pressing these keys will give you your choice of your last saved profiles, including Eloquence at the top at least for me.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama
On 10/30/2016 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

Thanks, finally found the list and am running with Nathan for a test drive.
Is there a way to have similar settings with previous voices or are manual changes required?  Thanks.
 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties
 

First, after installation, close JAWS and reopen.  Then press insert J and go to voices, then to voice adjustment and enter.  Then go to Vocalizer Expressive and tab to voice person where you will find your voices with the arrow keys.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama
On 10/30/2016 2:47 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:
Hi All.  The Installation Wizard announced successful installation of Nathan and Tom Premium.  After a total restart, I cannot find the voice profiles.  I also reviewed the Utilities list and did not observe them there either.
It seems others are having similar problems and I wonder if there  is an error on my part or a misfire in the full JAWS 18 product and would appreciate any relevant feedback.  Thanks, Mitch

 

An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field. -Niels Bohr, physicist, Nobel laureate (7 Oct 1885-1962)

 



Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties

Maria Campbell
 

I'm not sure about that, but if you press insert plus control plus s, you will be quickly able to choose the last saved voice profile.  In other words, if you're listening to Nathan and you want Eloquence again, pressing these keys will give you your choice of your last saved profiles, including Eloquence at the top at least for me.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama
On 10/30/2016 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

Thanks, finally found the list and am running with Nathan for a test drive.
Is there a way to have similar settings with previous voices or are manual changes required?  Thanks.
 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties
 

First, after installation, close JAWS and reopen.  Then press insert J and go to voices, then to voice adjustment and enter.  Then go to Vocalizer Expressive and tab to voice person where you will find your voices with the arrow keys.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama
On 10/30/2016 2:47 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:
Hi All.  The Installation Wizard announced successful installation of Nathan and Tom Premium.  After a total restart, I cannot find the voice profiles.  I also reviewed the Utilities list and did not observe them there either.
It seems others are having similar problems and I wonder if there  is an error on my part or a misfire in the full JAWS 18 product and would appreciate any relevant feedback.  Thanks, Mitch

 

An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field. -Niels Bohr, physicist, Nobel laureate (7 Oct 1885-1962)

 



Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties

Dave Mitchell
 

Thanks, finally found the list and am running with Nathan for a test drive.
Is there a way to have similar settings with previous voices or are manual changes required?  Thanks.
 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties
 

First, after installation, close JAWS and reopen.  Then press insert J and go to voices, then to voice adjustment and enter.  Then go to Vocalizer Expressive and tab to voice person where you will find your voices with the arrow keys.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
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On 10/30/2016 2:47 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

Hi All.  The Installation Wizard announced successful installation of Nathan and Tom Premium.  After a total restart, I cannot find the voice profiles.  I also reviewed the Utilities list and did not observe them there either.
It seems others are having similar problems and I wonder if there  is an error on my part or a misfire in the full JAWS 18 product and would appreciate any relevant feedback.  Thanks, Mitch

 

An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field. -Niels Bohr, physicist, Nobel laureate (7 Oct 1885-1962)

 


Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties

Dave Mitchell
 

Thanks but I remain confused even after checking the Vocalizer Expressive and being prompted to restart.
The Voice profile in the JAWS menu lists 4 choices for default of Eloquence, SAPI X factory, SAPI 64X factory and Vocalizer Expressive Factory. This last one loads a female voice but finding other Persons in any kind of list still eludes me, even in the Utilities area as you note.
I was hoping new voices would be added automatically to the JAWS voice profile menu section but, probably due to my operator error, remain a mystery to me but thanks for your help. Mitch

-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties

They are listed under person, not under synthesizers. Synthesizers
will list "eloquence", "vocalizer direct (factory default)",
"vocalizer expressive" etc. That last is the one you need to alter
after installing the voices.

Once you select "vocalizer exprssive" in the synthesizers combo tab
down to person and you should be able to select from the installed
voices.

On 10/30/16, Dave Mitchell <mitch@...> wrote:
Hi All. The Installation Wizard announced successful installation of Nathan
and Tom Premium. After a total restart, I cannot find the voice profiles.
I also reviewed the Utilities list and did not observe them there either.
It seems others are having similar problems and I wonder if there is an
error on my part or a misfire in the full JAWS 18 product and would
appreciate any relevant feedback. Thanks, Mitch


An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very
narrow field. -Niels Bohr, physicist, Nobel laureate (7 Oct 1885-1962)


--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: JAWS 18 and Vocalizer Premium Difficulties

Maria Campbell
 

First, after installation, close JAWS and reopen.  Then press insert J and go to voices, then to voice adjustment and enter.  Then go to Vocalizer Expressive and tab to voice person where you will find your voices with the arrow keys.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama
On 10/30/2016 2:47 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

Hi All.  The Installation Wizard announced successful installation of Nathan and Tom Premium.  After a total restart, I cannot find the voice profiles.  I also reviewed the Utilities list and did not observe them there either.
It seems others are having similar problems and I wonder if there  is an error on my part or a misfire in the full JAWS 18 product and would appreciate any relevant feedback.  Thanks, Mitch

 

An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field. -Niels Bohr, physicist, Nobel laureate (7 Oct 1885-1962)

 

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