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Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Michael Mote
I think that's probably true. I'm not sure if you are a braille user or not, but if so, are you getting braille output from your braille display?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:50 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions Thanks, Michael. I do know that audio is being taken from my local computer during remote sessions when it does work, because if I have audio ducking on, it continues to work properly. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions Hi Jonathan! Are you sure that the speech you are hearing is from your computer, and not from the Remote Desktop itself? One way you can tell is by listening, and seeing if some of the words are cut off, or the speech is a bit sluggish. If this is the case, you may want to go into the advanced settings, and uncheck the Remote access boxes, and then reboot your machine. After the computer comes back up, go back into settings, and reenable the remote access options by checking the appropriate boxes. Reboot again, and then try to connect to the remote desktop. I had to do this once when using Citrix Xenn Desktop and it solved my issues. I should also point out that when you log into a remote desktop session, in most cases, you don't need to worry about the log on screen anyway, because the remote computer should already be on. I hope this info helps! -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions Thanks, Soronel. I have done this and still have the problem where speech isn't always available after connecting to an RDP session. I did purchase the remote access add-on and it is active. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions My experience with RDP is that setting jaws to run at login from the target computer (as if you were sitting down at that machine and logging in normally) doesn't work very well. Instead I tell the RDP client to run jaws after connecting and that does work. And as Michael says, for RDP to be useful at all you have to have purchased the remote access option for your jaws license. (At the time I did that it was only available for jaws pro, but am not sure if that changed with FS' change in license structure). On 3/15/17, Michael Mote <miketmote73@...> wrote: Hi Jonathan! I’m wondering if the remote access for JAWS is working -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... |
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Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Jonathan Milam <milamj@...>
Thanks, Michael. I do know that audio is being taken from my local computer
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during remote sessions when it does work, because if I have audio ducking on, it continues to work properly. Jonathan -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions Hi Jonathan! Are you sure that the speech you are hearing is from your computer, and not from the Remote Desktop itself? One way you can tell is by listening, and seeing if some of the words are cut off, or the speech is a bit sluggish. If this is the case, you may want to go into the advanced settings, and uncheck the Remote access boxes, and then reboot your machine. After the computer comes back up, go back into settings, and reenable the remote access options by checking the appropriate boxes. Reboot again, and then try to connect to the remote desktop. I had to do this once when using Citrix Xenn Desktop and it solved my issues. I should also point out that when you log into a remote desktop session, in most cases, you don't need to worry about the log on screen anyway, because the remote computer should already be on. I hope this info helps! -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions Thanks, Soronel. I have done this and still have the problem where speech isn't always available after connecting to an RDP session. I did purchase the remote access add-on and it is active. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions My experience with RDP is that setting jaws to run at login from the target computer (as if you were sitting down at that machine and logging in normally) doesn't work very well. Instead I tell the RDP client to run jaws after connecting and that does work. And as Michael says, for RDP to be useful at all you have to have purchased the remote access option for your jaws license. (At the time I did that it was only available for jaws pro, but am not sure if that changed with FS' change in license structure). On 3/15/17, Michael Mote <miketmote73@...> wrote: Hi Jonathan! I’m wondering if the remote access for JAWS is working -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... |
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Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Michael Mote
Hi Jonathan! Are you sure that the speech you are hearing is from your computer, and not from the Remote Desktop itself? One way you can tell is by listening, and seeing if some of the words are cut off, or the speech is a bit sluggish. If this is the case, you may want to go into the advanced settings, and uncheck the Remote access boxes, and then reboot your machine. After the computer comes back up, go back into settings, and reenable the remote access options by checking the appropriate boxes. Reboot again, and then try to connect to the remote desktop. I had to do this once when using Citrix Xenn Desktop and it solved my issues.
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I should also point out that when you log into a remote desktop session, in most cases, you don't need to worry about the log on screen anyway, because the remote computer should already be on. I hope this info helps! -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions Thanks, Soronel. I have done this and still have the problem where speech isn't always available after connecting to an RDP session. I did purchase the remote access add-on and it is active. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions My experience with RDP is that setting jaws to run at login from the target computer (as if you were sitting down at that machine and logging in normally) doesn't work very well. Instead I tell the RDP client to run jaws after connecting and that does work. And as Michael says, for RDP to be useful at all you have to have purchased the remote access option for your jaws license. (At the time I did that it was only available for jaws pro, but am not sure if that changed with FS' change in license structure). On 3/15/17, Michael Mote <miketmote73@...> wrote: Hi Jonathan! I’m wondering if the remote access for JAWS is working -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... |
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Re: ResearchIt
Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
Weather is not working for any of us right now. It hasn't worked
since Saturday evening for me. On 3/15/2017 7:46 AM, Danny wells
wrote:
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Re: Excel and JAWS
BeastlyTheos <theodorecooke@...>
There are the typical jaws help libraries you can get by typing jaws +
h, jaws + w, jaws + f1 twice quickly. Also, here's a list of useful excel shortcuts: https://shortcutworld.com/en/Excel/2010/win/all |
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Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Jonathan Milam <milamj@...>
Thanks, Soronel. I have done this and still have the problem where speech
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isn't always available after connecting to an RDP session. I did purchase the remote access add-on and it is active. Jonathan -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions My experience with RDP is that setting jaws to run at login from the target computer (as if you were sitting down at that machine and logging in normally) doesn't work very well. Instead I tell the RDP client to run jaws after connecting and that does work. And as Michael says, for RDP to be useful at all you have to have purchased the remote access option for your jaws license. (At the time I did that it was only available for jaws pro, but am not sure if that changed with FS' change in license structure). On 3/15/17, Michael Mote <miketmote73@...> wrote: Hi Jonathan! I’m wondering if the remote access for JAWS is working -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@... |
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Re: High CPU usage after installing SSD
jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@...>
Could the install of the drive have required some monitoring software
installs, mine required Acronis and I see at least three apps that have this
name running in background. I am not familiar enough with Windows 10 yet
to be good at checking usage but I, Too, noticed a performance hit after I
installed the SSD to replace a HDD.
Jeff
Armstrong
NOTICE: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any printing, copying, dissemination, distribution, disclosure or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete it from your system. Thank You. From: Tony
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: High CPU usage after installing SSD Actually, I consider a quarter second unacceptable. That is why I am considering upgrading my new Windows 10 machine to Windows 7. I have a fast quad core Xeon processor, 32gb ram and a 1tb M.2 SSD that is supposed to be at least 4 times the speed of a top of the line SATA SSD. I don’t know if it is Windows 10 or Jaws 18, but this machine is less responsive than my old Windows 7 machine with a dual core I3, normal SSD and only 8gb ram. Once a program is running it is noticeably faster than my old machine and it flys while running multiple programs, which leads me to believe it is not a hardware problem.
Tony
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
A brandnew SSD should be fine although of course any new product can be a lemon and be defective out of the box which is what warranties are for. Some large programs still may take a bit to open, SSD’s are great but it’s not like everything will pop up ready to go in half a second.
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith
Jr.
Hi again,
If bad sectors exist, replace the drive. Bad sectors on a hard drive grows like weeds.
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith
Jr.
Hi,
If all connections are correct according to specifications, then I would recommend downloading from the manufacturer of the Hard drive and run a health test or run a check disk and see if bad sectors exist. Bad sectors will slow down your access time on a hard drive.
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Hello list, So over the weekend, I swapped out my old hard drive with an SSD. I’m up and running and am coming across high CPU usage and can’t figure out why. It’s a clean install of Windows 7, 8 GB of ram and iCore 3 2.2 GHZ processor. The PC and Jaws feels sluggish at times too. The machine boots fast as would be expected, but launching of programs still takes a bit. At least more than what one would anticipate with an SSD. Standard programs like Office 2016, Malwarebytes/Essentials and Jaws 18. No files as of yet. The drive is more or less empty. Jaws is stuttering too. The stuttering thing I had way back when and was able to fix it at that time, but for the life of me, can’t recall how I got rid of it. Anyway, I’m going to check later for any firmware updates for the SSD (Crucial) in case that may help, but generally, I was curious if there was anything else I may have overlooked or can adjust to bring down the CPU usage. I’m talking anywhere from a consistent 78 to 98%. Any input would be appreciated. |
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Re: Quicken question
Ted Drake
Hi Brenda, Stan, and George Could you send me your email addresses and I will forward them to the Quicken support team. They would appreciate your feedback. My email is ted_drake@... Thanks Ted |
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Re: Quicken question
Ted Drake
HI George We no longer own Quicken, so I can't make statements for Quicken 2017, but the team made significant changes for Quicken 2015 and Quicken 2016 to work with screen readers. There is a small JAWS script that should come as part of the JAWS package that helps with a few components. Are you having problems with a specific task? Also, the Quicken apps for iOS and Android work pretty well and can be much quicker at basic tasks than the desktop product. Ted Drake, Intuit |
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Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Jonathan Milam <milamj@...>
Ok so apparently that wasn’t so successful. I didn’t realize that audio was playing through my computer and not the remote computer, so the JAWS audio was coming through the remote sound channel instead of using the remote JAWS speech. So it doesn’t matter if the version is activated or not, I still have the same problem with no consistent speech when I connect to the computer through an RDP session. I do know that audio is being taken from my local computer during remote sessions when it does work, because if I have audio ducking on, it continues to work properly.
Jonathan
From: Jonathan Milam [mailto:milamj@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:27 AM To: 'main@jfw.groups.io' <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: RE: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Hi Michael,
Thanks for your message. I have purchased the Remote Access add-on, and just entered my authorization information on one of the problematic computers. Ironically enough, remote access now works perfectly on it. I don’t understand it, but it seems that authorization is required to make RDP work consistently. There again, the JAWS documentation and Support clearly indicates that the remote version of JAWS doesn’t have to be authorized. It is baffling.
Jonathan
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Hi Jonathan! I’m wondering if the remote access for JAWS is working correctly. It sounds like you may be getting the speech through the PC you’re connecting to, and not your own PC. The other thing that you mentioned in your email that raises a red flag is the fact that you have to have your authorization installed on the computer that you’re connecting to. If remote access is working properly, that shouldn’t be the case. Have you paid for the remote access to be enabled on your version of JAWS?
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Hi All,
I am having difficulty using JAWS in RDP sessions. Since the computers to which I am connecting must be logged on 24/7, I use Disconnect instead of Logoff to terminate the session. The problem I am having is that quite often when I connect via an RDP session, speech is not available with JAWS. I usually have to end the JAWS process through Task Manager and then restart it again to have speech. However, this doesn’t always work, and I have to restart the entire computer to resolve it. Other times it connects without difficulty and speech is immediately available. I have checked to run JAWS and logon and after all users using Always, but this hasn’t helped. The only consistent connection I can get is with a computer on which JAWS is registered with my auth code. I was under the impression that the auth code wasn’t needed for computer running JAWS remotely, however, and so this doesn’t explain the inconsistency I’m seeing. The problem is happening on several different desktops with 2 running WIN7 and 1 running WIN10. Does anyone have ideas on this?
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Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Jonathan Milam <milamj@...>
Hi Michael,
Thanks for your message. I have purchased the Remote Access add-on, and just entered my authorization information on one of the problematic computers. Ironically enough, remote access now works perfectly on it. I don’t understand it, but it seems that authorization is required to make RDP work consistently. There again, the JAWS documentation and Support clearly indicates that the remote version of JAWS doesn’t have to be authorized. It is baffling.
Jonathan
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and RDP Sessions
Hi Jonathan! I’m wondering if the remote access for JAWS is working correctly. It sounds like you may be getting the speech through the PC you’re connecting to, and not your own PC. The other thing that you mentioned in your email that raises a red flag is the fact that you have to have your authorization installed on the computer that you’re connecting to. If remote access is working properly, that shouldn’t be the case. Have you paid for the remote access to be enabled on your version of JAWS?
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Hi All,
I am having difficulty using JAWS in RDP sessions. Since the computers to which I am connecting must be logged on 24/7, I use Disconnect instead of Logoff to terminate the session. The problem I am having is that quite often when I connect via an RDP session, speech is not available with JAWS. I usually have to end the JAWS process through Task Manager and then restart it again to have speech. However, this doesn’t always work, and I have to restart the entire computer to resolve it. Other times it connects without difficulty and speech is immediately available. I have checked to run JAWS and logon and after all users using Always, but this hasn’t helped. The only consistent connection I can get is with a computer on which JAWS is registered with my auth code. I was under the impression that the auth code wasn’t needed for computer running JAWS remotely, however, and so this doesn’t explain the inconsistency I’m seeing. The problem is happening on several different desktops with 2 running WIN7 and 1 running WIN10. Does anyone have ideas on this?
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ResearchIt
Danny wells
Hi List,
I’m sorry if this issue has been addressed already, but for about a week I have not been able to get the weather info by using ResearchIt. This is so whether I use JFW 18 or 17. I suspect the problem is with the weather.gov site, but I’m no expert concerning such issues.
Danny
All these things my hand has made, and so all these things came to be, declares the LORD. But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word. (Isaiah 66:2)
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Re: Averaging A Column
Mario, If you wanted to do non-contiguous cells you would type, as an example, =average(A1,C5,L32,N3), in the cell where you want the values in those four cells to be averaged. You can also include constants, e.g., 6, in the comma separated list along with cells you wish to include in the average. You will have a valid computation so long as the cells in question contain a numeric value or are empty. If you have any other data type in the cell it will result in an error, but I presume this falls into the "it goes without saying" category, even though I've said it. The use of a sequence of non-contiguous cells and/or numeric constants is atypical. Most times you'll just specify a sequence of rows, e.g., =average(A1,A5), or columns, e.g., =average(A1,G1), and generally these will be placed directly below or immediately to the right of the cell sequence, respectively. A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back |
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Re: Averaging A Column
Mario
Brian, can you give an example of what would be typed?
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...] Sent: Wednesday, Mar 15, 2017 7:03 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Averaging A Column Addendum: Mind you, if you're entering the average function by hand it is possible to specify any random sequence of cells you wish, comma separating each cell, between the open and close parentheses for the function. This is, admittedly, not done all that often but there are times where you may need to average non-contiguous cells. -- *Brian* A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow , To Jerusalem and Back |
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Re: C Cleaner check boxes
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Even if the Heading is checked you
can uncheck items so they're not scanned.
Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. ----- Original Message -----
From: HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: C Cleaner check boxes If the heading title of the different sections is checked then all will be cleaned in that section. If you uncheck the main heading, then you can discriminate as to which particular part is cleaned. Use your arrow keys and spacebar to select and check or un check as Dennis prescribed. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: C Cleaner check boxes the easiest way is to toggle the checkbox with the spacebar. just hit the spacebar on the box your interested in and if it changes you can change it back. or at least know if its selected. On 3/15/2017 5:29 PM, Jim L wrote: > > Heya folks, > > Been running latest Jaws 17 and been using C Cleaner for ages now, the > non reading of check boxes checked or unchecked unless I use a jaws > cursor is so very annoying as even using Jaws cursor doesnt always > line up what Ive checked or uncheck and knowing how sophisticated C > Cleaner is the wrong check box check can cause problems. > > Is there a work around at all? Something I can change in Jaws settings > that will read all check boxes for me? > > I'd appreciate any help here. > > Cheers, > > Jim > > |
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Re: C Cleaner check boxes
HH. Smith Jr.
Hi Guys,
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If the heading title of the different sections is checked then all will be cleaned in that section. If you uncheck the main heading, then you can discriminate as to which particular part is cleaned. Use your arrow keys and spacebar to select and check or un check as Dennis prescribed. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: C Cleaner check boxes the easiest way is to toggle the checkbox with the spacebar. just hit the spacebar on the box your interested in and if it changes you can change it back. or at least know if its selected. On 3/15/2017 5:29 PM, Jim L wrote:
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Re: C Cleaner check boxes
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Jim,
Try the following, but it does take
some getting used to!
If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following. 1. Find an option you know the status of. 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard. It will say add configuration file. The name, should say Ccleaner64, press enter, then it will say edit button. 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box. 4. Tab to add class button press space bar. Then to ok. NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner! Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. ----- Original Message -----
From: Jim L
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:29 PM
Subject: C Cleaner check boxes Heya folks,
Been running latest Jaws 17 and been using C Cleaner for ages now, the non reading of check boxes checked or unchecked unless I use a jaws cursor is so very annoying as even using Jaws cursor doesnt always line up what Ive checked or uncheck and knowing how sophisticated C Cleaner is the wrong check box check can cause problems.
Is there a work around at all? Something I can change in Jaws settings that will read all check boxes for me?
I’d appreciate any help here.
Cheers,
Jim
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Re: Averaging A Column
Addendum: Mind you, if you're entering the average function by hand it is possible to specify any random sequence of cells you wish, comma separating each cell, between the open and close parentheses for the function. This is, admittedly, not done all that often but there are times where you may need to average non-contiguous cells.
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Re: Averaging A Column
I am presuming we're talking about MS-Excel Here. Alt+H, U will activate the Autosum control in the Editing Group. If you follow that immediately by A you will insert the average function in the cell. You must be positioned in either a column immediately to the right of the columns you want to average or in a row immediately below the cell sequence in a single column that you wish to average. You can also enter the average function in a cell by hand: =average(column-A,column-?) where you're in the cell at column-?+1 in the row or =average(a1,aN) where you're in the cell at row N+1 still in column A. A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back |
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Re: C Cleaner check boxes
dennis
the easiest way is to toggle the checkbox with the spacebar. just hit the spacebar on the box your interested in and if it changes you can change it back. or at least know if its selected.
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