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Re: Windows D or Windows M

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Laura, a toggle means that you switch the option on and off when you press the same keystroke. Another way to explain this is to state that as you press the key, it cycles you through all of the available options.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop. I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard. I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?



Thank you,

Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle. That is very helpful.



Thanks Jeanette.



Bob



On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.



Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist





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Office: 757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

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Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

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Member- Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired



"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

--Robert Louis Stevenson









From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m



wesley







From: James Malone <mailto:malone_j@comcast.net>

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com <http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: Jeanette web site problem

Jeanette McAllister PhD
 

I’m not sure what the problem could be then. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jeanette web site problem

 

Not in my case the fields are not mentioned by doing insert f5, or just hitting the letter “F” for field

On May 24, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jeanette McAllister PhD <Jeanette@...> wrote:

 

Hi Mark,

I just went to the website and using the Insert + F5 keystroke I am able to access the form fields you mentioned. There is also a “sign on” button to login to your account. Since I do not have an account with CIBC I am unable to login and confirm that there is a sign off or sign out button.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: web site problem

 

www.cibc.com            I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.

Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.

Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.

I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.

If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.

Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

 

Mark

                                                Mark Furness

flintman57@gmai                                                                l.com

 




 

 


Re: Jeanette web site problem

Mark Furness
 

Not in my case the fields are not mentioned by doing insert f5, or just hitting the letter “F” for field

On May 24, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jeanette McAllister PhD <Jeanette@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,
I just went to the website and using the Insert + F5 keystroke I am able to access the form fields you mentioned. There is also a “sign on” button to login to your account. Since I do not have an account with CIBC I am unable to login and confirm that there is a sign off or sign out button.
 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support
Professional Placement Specialist
 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: web site problem
 
www.cibc.com            I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.
 
Mark
                                                Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai                                                                l.com
 


 



Re: Windows D or Windows M

Maria Campbell
 

Thanks for the good information on the differences.

I've experienced no issues using Windows M on my w10 machine.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributer to Jimmi Hendrix
On 5/24/2016 1:31 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/> 

 








Re: web site problem

Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC) <guy.castonguay@...>
 

Went to the site and had no problems finding the number & password fields. I use win 7, JAWS 16 with IE 11.
Regards
Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: web site problem

I have the same problem. Even when I use the bookmark that normally takes me to the sign on screen. I activated the "sign on" link several times,; even in a new window but still don't get a place to enter my info.

Also tried both firefox and ie11





Guess we both need to contact them.




Bob

On 5/24/2016 10:40 AM, Mark Furness wrote:


www.cibc.com I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

Mark


Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai l.com


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: web site problem

Robert Logue
 

I have the same problem.  Even when I use the bookmark that normally takes me to the sign on screen.  I activated the "sign on" link several times,; even in a new window but still don't get a place to enter my info.

Also tried both firefox and ie11


Guess we both need to contact them.


Bob

On 5/24/2016 10:40 AM, Mark Furness wrote:

www.cibc.com I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

Mark
Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai l.com






Re: Windows D or Windows M

Laura Richardson
 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Curtis Delzer
 

you'll discover that if you use windows 10, windows d is better and more
consistent than windows-m which just minimizes the programs which will
minimize, and put you in some reference to the desktop, but it is
problematic. :)
windows D is a toggle, in ten as well as seven, but it seems in windows
seven windows M consistently put me on the desktop where in ten it does
not reliably. :)
-----
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Tue, 24 May 2016 13:14:24 -0400
"Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle. That is very helpful.



Thanks Jeanette.



Bob



On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.



Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist





<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office: 757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com <http://www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com>

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa>



Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/



Member- Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired



"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

--Robert Louis Stevenson









From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m



wesley







From: James Malone <mailto:malone_j@comcast.net>

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com <http://www.tunecore.com/>







Re: Windows D or Windows M

Tom Behler
 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Robert Logue
 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.


Thanks Jeanette.


Bob


On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 



Re: Windows D or Windows M

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

i use both.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com


Re: Windows D or Windows M

James Malone
 

Yes, we covered that in the lesson as well. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

I'd suggest Windows-D because that will work on the first press. I find
that Windows-M often needs to be pressed at least twice before speech is
heard. The downside is that if you only have a Windows Key on the left side
of the keyboard, you have to cross over your hands to execute that command.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

I'd suggest Windows-D because that will work on the first press. I find
that Windows-M often needs to be pressed at least twice before speech is
heard. The downside is that if you only have a Windows Key on the left side
of the keyboard, you have to cross over your hands to execute that command.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Jeanette McAllister PhD
 

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

WESLEY BURDEN
 

hello james:
personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m
 
wesley
 
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Windows D or Windows M
 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Windows D or Windows M

James Malone
 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Re: web site problem

Jeanette McAllister PhD
 

Hi Mark,

I just went to the website and using the Insert + F5 keystroke I am able to access the form fields you mentioned. There is also a “sign on” button to login to your account. Since I do not have an account with CIBC I am unable to login and confirm that there is a sign off or sign out button.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: web site problem

 

www.cibc.com            I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.

Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.

Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.

I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.

If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.

Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

 

Mark

                                                Mark Furness

flintman57@gmai                                                                l.com

 



 


web site problem

Mark Furness
 

www.cibc.com I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

Mark
Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai l.com





Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello JAWS Users,

Perhaps it would be useful to file  complaints concerning such issues.

I do not think this response is, “Off Topic”, since such actions will improve things for JAWS users.

I am in BC  Canada, and while legislation is in the works, it is not enacted here yet, except in Ontario. But the U. S. legislation below looks pretty good to me.

 

Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act

Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act requires the U.S. federal government to take accessibility into account when procuring information technologies: websites, telephones, copiers, computers, and other technologies, including both hardware and software. The parts of Section 508 most relevant to web accessibility are "1194.21 — Software applications and operating systems," "1194.22 — Web-based intranet and internet information and applications," and "1194.31 — Functional performance criteria."

Section 508 applies to:

·    US federal government entities only, but the effects of Section 508 have permeated the information technology landscape because so many businesses, non-profits, and local and state governments do business with the federal government. To sell to the federal government, private entities have to offer accessible products and services.

Section 508 is enforced by:

·    Consumers (people with disabilities) filing formal complaints

Source; Deque University

Cheers Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie Switzer
Sent: May 23, 2016 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

If it helps any the last time I downloaded the app on my laptop I had my cousin look at it who is cited, and she said it was a mess and she hated it.
She also could not find what the directions were telling her to do inside the app for downloading music. What I mean is she couldn't find where anything was located.
Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2016, at 8:08 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

No, I do not have an iPhone.  Seemingly, for what must be such a popular and desirable thing, there must be some sort of a way to use this app; like scripts?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie Switzer
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

I'm glad to know that hasn't changed since last year or the year before.
Have you maybe tried the iPhone app? If you have an iPhone because with the iPhone app you can at least listen to your music.

I'm not sure about Scripps
, But I haven't seen any around. Sent from my iPhone


On May 22, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

Hi!

 

I have installed the Amazon Music Desktop App For PC.  Regrettably, it seems to be very much inaccessible.  Does anyone have any ideas about this?  Might there be any JAWS scripts for it?  Are there any JAWS or App settings other than the default settings that would improve accessibility?  Are there any alternative programs that would link into Amazon Music (I am an "Amazon Prime" member) that are more accessible?

 

thanks,

Richard