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Re: Firefox?
Gene Warner
I have decided to try Firefox again, only I'm going to start with version 101 to avoid the context menu problem version 102 has. Now I have a question, there seem to be three different version for Windows 64:
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win64-EME-free win64-aarch64 win64 What are those first two? Thanks! Gene...
On 7/3/2022 1:49 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Get Firefox ESR, it never breaks accessibility.
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Re: Firefox?
K0LNY
Get Firefox ESR, it never breaks accessibility.
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I think mine is ESR 91.11.0ESR 32 bit, which is fine for a 64 bit system. Glenn
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From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:46 AM Subject: Re: Firefox? Yeah, but I just ignore all of that. I understand that Chrome is just as bad, only it's Google instead of Microsoft. That is why I am thinking of giving Firefox another look to see if it is any less confusing than it was all those years ago. Gene... On 7/3/2022 1:41 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Edge is too invasive in my opinion, with constantly pushing for an account
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Re: Firefox?
Gene Warner
Yeah, but I just ignore all of that. I understand that Chrome is just as bad, only it's Google instead of Microsoft. That is why I am thinking of giving Firefox another look to see if it is any less confusing than it was all those years ago.
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On 7/3/2022 1:41 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Edge is too invasive in my opinion, with constantly pushing for an account
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Gene Warner
You should know that to get the discount you have to call Freedom Scientific's customer service department between July 1st and 15th. Apparently the discount isn't available through their online store.
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On 7/3/2022 1:00 AM, Michael Munn wrote:
Hello all, Glen Gordan said in the latest episode of Fscast
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Re: Firefox?
K0LNY
Edge is too invasive in my opinion, with constantly pushing for an account
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for profile, which is just more tracking by MS. Glenn
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From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2022 12:38 AM Subject: Re: Firefox? I personally prefer Chrome. Firefox is third on my list, Edge being number 2. On Jul 2, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote: OK all you Firefox users, it was seven or eight years ago when I tried Firefox. Other than this current accessibility hiccup, would it be worth looking at again? One of the things that Internet Explorer did that I wish these other browser developers would do is how it handled favorites or bookmarks. The beauty of Microsoft's approach was that you could just use your favorite file manager to manage your bookmarks. Gene...
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Re: Firefox?
Curtis Chong
I personally prefer Chrome. Firefox is third on my list, Edge being number 2.
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On Jul 2, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
OK all you Firefox users, it was seven or eight years ago when I tried Firefox. Other than this current accessibility hiccup, would it be worth looking at again? One of the things that Internet Explorer did that I wish these other browser developers would do is how it handled favorites or bookmarks. The beauty of Microsoft's approach was that you could just use your favorite file manager to manage your bookmarks. Gene...
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Michael Munn
It is very misfortune that three-years had past the Subscription license still had not rolled out in to the world yet.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:06 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License The last time I asked, annual licence was restricted to the United States, but they will decide to make it available to deelers. Therefore you cannot buy it directly from FS, and have to follow your deelers pricing. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, 3 July, 2022 12:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License You mean that after all this time since they introduced the annual licenses they are still restricted to the United States? Although I'm not affected because I live in the US, that's er... um... shameful. Gene... On 7/2/2022 11:37 PM, Cornelius wrote: I do hope that one day FS will open up the subscription and the SMA
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Cornelius
In some countries, the price difference is substantial if you purchase from deeler versus direct purchase through FS Online store.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd Sent: Sunday, 3 July, 2022 12:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License Much of what Freedom Scientific does in its pricing and sales systems is shameful. It has been so for years that they seem oblivious to their international customers, and that many of us would willingly forego the dealers to purchase software upgrades etc directly. I had the same grumpiness with GW Micro when it provided meaningful competition until things changed. It was even kore odd with them, because they did not have a New Zealand dealership. Purchasing directly from FS would not dramatically alter the purchase price, because of currency conversions and credit card charges, but it is a principle. One of the strange things is of course that when you raise this with them, they place it back with the dealer, who then lodges it with Freedom Scientific. I am sure that dealers get a kick back for actually not doing very much. Vaughan . -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2022 4:07 pm To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License You mean that after all this time since they introduced the annual licenses they are still restricted to the United States? Although I'm not affected because I live in the US, that's er... um... shameful. Gene... On 7/2/2022 11:37 PM, Cornelius wrote: I do hope that one day FS will open up the subscription and the SMA
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Cornelius
The last time I asked, annual licence was restricted to the United States, but they will decide to make it available to deelers. Therefore you cannot buy it directly from FS, and have to follow your deelers pricing.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, 3 July, 2022 12:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License You mean that after all this time since they introduced the annual licenses they are still restricted to the United States? Although I'm not affected because I live in the US, that's er... um... shameful. Gene... On 7/2/2022 11:37 PM, Cornelius wrote: I do hope that one day FS will open up the subscription and the SMA
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Michael Munn
Hello all, Glen Gordan said in the latest episode of Fscast
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That there is going to be a discount on the SMA software for $120 Best regards Michael H. Munn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 11:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License I do hope that one day FS will open up the subscription and the SMA purchase to the world, not limiting it to the U.S only. It is just like how we can subscribe Office 365 without going through a local computer deeler. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: Saturday, 2 July, 2022 11:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License It's a great reason to switch to the JAWS Home Annual License, available for $95 per year. Curtis -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Vandervest Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2022 8:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License I just checked my sma and a renewal would cost $210.00, big bummer William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision There are none so blind, as those who will not see. William Vandervest u -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License Gerald I haven't seen any discounts offered this convention season for Jaws. Generally, the most cost effective way to purchase a SMA is to renew for 2 years instead of 1 at the time of renewal. As I'm set through the 2024 upgrade, it shows me no prices when looking at the upgrade page.
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Vaughan Dodd <vdodd001@...>
Much of what Freedom Scientific does in its pricing and sales systems is shameful. It has been so for years that they seem oblivious to their international customers, and that many of us would willingly forego the dealers to purchase software upgrades etc directly.
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I had the same grumpiness with GW Micro when it provided meaningful competition until things changed. It was even kore odd with them, because they did not have a New Zealand dealership. Purchasing directly from FS would not dramatically alter the purchase price, because of currency conversions and credit card charges, but it is a principle. One of the strange things is of course that when you raise this with them, they place it back with the dealer, who then lodges it with Freedom Scientific. I am sure that dealers get a kick back for actually not doing very much. Vaughan .
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2022 4:07 pm To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License You mean that after all this time since they introduced the annual licenses they are still restricted to the United States? Although I'm not affected because I live in the US, that's er... um... shameful. Gene... On 7/2/2022 11:37 PM, Cornelius wrote: I do hope that one day FS will open up the subscription and the SMA
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Gene Warner
You mean that after all this time since they introduced the annual licenses they are still restricted to the United States? Although I'm not affected because I live in the US, that's er... um... shameful.
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Gene...
On 7/2/2022 11:37 PM, Cornelius wrote:
I do hope that one day FS will open up the subscription and the SMA purchase
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Cornelius
I do hope that one day FS will open up the subscription and the SMA purchase
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to the world, not limiting it to the U.S only. It is just like how we can subscribe Office 365 without going through a local computer deeler.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: Saturday, 2 July, 2022 11:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License It's a great reason to switch to the JAWS Home Annual License, available for $95 per year. Curtis -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Vandervest Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2022 8:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License I just checked my sma and a renewal would cost $210.00, big bummer William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision There are none so blind, as those who will not see. William Vandervest u -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License Gerald I haven't seen any discounts offered this convention season for Jaws. Generally, the most cost effective way to purchase a SMA is to renew for 2 years instead of 1 at the time of renewal. As I'm set through the 2024 upgrade, it shows me no prices when looking at the upgrade page.
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Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Annabelle Susan Morison
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right? Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a home license for JAWS 2021.
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Loy
The JAWS SMA license has been $150 for several years, but during convention time they have it for $120. Seems there is a lot of confusion here on this list about the licenses and prices.
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From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License I believe that for JAWS 2022, Freedom Scientific raised the price of SMAs, the Home edition went up from $120 to $150. Sorry, I don't know what the prices are for the Professional edition.
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Mike Pietruk
Gene makes a good point. Several of us including Loy, yours truly and
others came to JAWS with the demise of Window-Eyes. We were given JAWS at no cost as former GW Micro Window-Eyes owners. We became elligible for the SMA program as were became fully JAWS owners. This should explain some of the different prices discussed in this thread. If I recall correctly, we were given the version of JAWS current at that time plus 2 free SMA's. Very generous, that's for sure! And when renewal time came, I started buying the 2 SMA option.
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Gene Warner
I believe that for JAWS 2022, Freedom Scientific raised the price of SMAs, the Home edition went up from $120 to $150. Sorry, I don't know what the prices are for the Professional edition.
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On 7/2/2022 6:53 PM, Loy wrote:
FS must think you have the professional, because the Home edition shouldn't cost but $120 .
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Don H
I just checked the SMA cost for my home edition of Jaws and after
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entering my serial number it said I could purchase a SMA for $150.00. I still have one sma left so another sma purchase would get me to 2025.
On 7/2/2022 5:53 PM, Loy wrote:
FS must think you have the professional, because the Home edition
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Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Loy
FS must think you have the professional, because the Home edition shouldn't cost but $120 .
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From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License Actually, I have the Home Use Edition, I got mine through the Window-eyes switch over to Jaws too. William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision There are none so blind, as those who will not see. William Vandervest u -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 18:25 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License That must have been for the professional, most people don't need the professional license. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License I just purchased my sma renewal for $168.00 but I didn't learn about that price until I got to the cart on the FS site, until I got there it waslisted at $210.00. William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision There are none so blind, as those who will not see. William Vandervest u -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 17:31 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License This is how I understand it. If you paid the initial license price of $950 for JAWS and have kept your SMAs up to ddate, then SMAs are better because they only cost $60 per year with the discount and $75 per year without the discount. But if you can't afford the initial license price of $950, then the annual license is better because it doesn't require that initial huge outlay of cash. Gene... On 7/2/2022 5:23 PM, Don H wrote: So I have been purchasing a SMA for JAWS and not purchasing the annual
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Firefox?
Gene Warner
OK all you Firefox users, it was seven or eight years ago when I tried Firefox. Other than this current accessibility hiccup, would it be worth looking at again?
One of the things that Internet Explorer did that I wish these other browser developers would do is how it handled favorites or bookmarks. The beauty of Microsoft's approach was that you could just use your favorite file manager to manage your bookmarks. Gene...
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