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Re: Thunderbird's spell checker

Mario
 

yep, f7, control+shift+p, and alt+p then h, activate the spell check. a funny thing, I just tried the alt+p to open the options menu, and instead of pressing h to launch the spell checker, I just pressed enter since it's the first choice. JAWS started reading, and mentioned what the detected misspelling is among other things.

but this happened while the ThunderBlind scripts are loaded.

On 5/2/2016 11:29 AM, Melissa Stott wrote:
I suppose you can't use F7 as you would in Outlook or Windows live mail?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

not to discourage the use of Thunderbird, it is a nice client and is easy to get started, but...

one thing I don't like is when the spell checker detects a possible misspelling, JAWS or NVDA does not announce the misspelled word. but the misspelled word, is, displayed and the screen review cursor is needed to review it, but it's a bit of a bother to use the JAWS cursor every time. often the detected misspelling is totally off and sometimes it is spot on, but it's spell check list needs some upgrading to be more accurate. I don't know if there is a way to replace or upgrade/update it.

in addition, there's no way that I know of to get where that misspelling is so you can determine if it is ok or needs correcting. when Outlook Express, and I imagine also in Outlook, the insert+c could be used to read the misspelled word that was detected in context so you could get an idea if it needed to be corrected or not. <sigh>

the buttons, list of suggested corrections, etc. are present and work ok. but I mis the automatic reading of the detected misspelled word, and the reading of the misspelled word in context feature.

the other thing is that there's no way that I know of to limit the spell checker to the email I send. I don't want the spell checker to check everything.

does anybody who uses TB have any suggestions or recommendations to facilitate the above comments?






Re: Thunderbird's spell checker

Mario
 

is dictionary a TB plugin or do you mean using an actual dictionary? using an actual dictionary is not practical for a legally blind user, unless it is a computer program.

On 5/2/2016 11:23 AM, Angela Delicata via Groups.io wrote:
Well, TB is nice and does all what I need: I do not use spell checker
because there are other means, like dictionary, to check for correct
writing of words.

Il 02/05/2016 17:04, Mario ha scritto:
not to discourage the use of Thunderbird, it is a nice client and is
easy to get started, but...

one thing I don't like is when the spell checker detects a possible
misspelling, JAWS or NVDA does not announce the misspelled word. but the
misspelled word, is, displayed and the screen review cursor is needed to
review it, but it's a bit of a bother to use the JAWS cursor every time.
often the detected misspelling is totally off and sometimes it is spot
on, but it's spell check list needs some upgrading to be more accurate.
I don't know if there is a way to replace or upgrade/update it.

in addition, there's no way that I know of to get where that misspelling
is so you can determine if it is ok or needs correcting. when Outlook
Express, and I imagine also in Outlook, the insert+c could be used to
read the misspelled word that was detected in context so you could get
an idea if it needed to be corrected or not. <sigh>

the buttons, list of suggested corrections, etc. are present and work
ok. but I mis the automatic reading of the detected misspelled word, and
the reading of the misspelled word in context feature.

the other thing is that there's no way that I know of to limit the spell
checker to the email I send. I don't want the spell checker to check
everything.

does anybody who uses TB have any suggestions or recommendations to
facilitate the above comments?


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Re: Thunderbird's spell checker

Angela Delicata
 

Well, TB is nice and does all what I need: I do not use spell checker
because there are other means, like dictionary, to check for correct
writing of words.

Il 02/05/2016 17:04, Mario ha scritto:
not to discourage the use of Thunderbird, it is a nice client and is
easy to get started, but...

one thing I don't like is when the spell checker detects a possible
misspelling, JAWS or NVDA does not announce the misspelled word. but the
misspelled word, is, displayed and the screen review cursor is needed to
review it, but it's a bit of a bother to use the JAWS cursor every time.
often the detected misspelling is totally off and sometimes it is spot
on, but it's spell check list needs some upgrading to be more accurate.
I don't know if there is a way to replace or upgrade/update it.

in addition, there's no way that I know of to get where that misspelling
is so you can determine if it is ok or needs correcting. when Outlook
Express, and I imagine also in Outlook, the insert+c could be used to
read the misspelled word that was detected in context so you could get
an idea if it needed to be corrected or not. <sigh>

the buttons, list of suggested corrections, etc. are present and work
ok. but I mis the automatic reading of the detected misspelled word, and
the reading of the misspelled word in context feature.

the other thing is that there's no way that I know of to limit the spell
checker to the email I send. I don't want the spell checker to check
everything.

does anybody who uses TB have any suggestions or recommendations to
facilitate the above comments?

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Re: Thunderbird And JFW

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Works for me too- and I used  it with Windows 7 and now Windows 10.   

Elaine
On 5/1/2016 8:13 PM, brian albriton wrote:

I use outlook and like it just fine for accessibility and such.

How is thunderbird for a jaws user as an email program?

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

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Re: Thunderbird's spell checker

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I suppose you can't use F7 as you would in Outlook or Windows live mail?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

not to discourage the use of Thunderbird, it is a nice client and is easy to get started, but...

one thing I don't like is when the spell checker detects a possible misspelling, JAWS or NVDA does not announce the misspelled word. but the misspelled word, is, displayed and the screen review cursor is needed to review it, but it's a bit of a bother to use the JAWS cursor every time. often the detected misspelling is totally off and sometimes it is spot on, but it's spell check list needs some upgrading to be more accurate. I don't know if there is a way to replace or upgrade/update it.

in addition, there's no way that I know of to get where that misspelling is so you can determine if it is ok or needs correcting. when Outlook Express, and I imagine also in Outlook, the insert+c could be used to read the misspelled word that was detected in context so you could get an idea if it needed to be corrected or not. <sigh>

the buttons, list of suggested corrections, etc. are present and work ok. but I mis the automatic reading of the detected misspelled word, and the reading of the misspelled word in context feature.

the other thing is that there's no way that I know of to limit the spell checker to the email I send. I don't want the spell checker to check everything.

does anybody who uses TB have any suggestions or recommendations to facilitate the above comments?



Thunderbird's spell checker

Mario
 

not to discourage the use of Thunderbird, it is a nice client and is easy to get started, but...

one thing I don't like is when the spell checker detects a possible misspelling, JAWS or NVDA does not announce the misspelled word. but the misspelled word, is, displayed and the screen review cursor is needed to review it, but it's a bit of a bother to use the JAWS cursor every time. often the detected misspelling is totally off and sometimes it is spot on, but it's spell check list needs some upgrading to be more accurate. I don't know if there is a way to replace or upgrade/update it.

in addition, there's no way that I know of to get where that misspelling is so you can determine if it is ok or needs correcting. when Outlook Express, and I imagine also in Outlook, the insert+c could be used to read the misspelled word that was detected in context so you could get an idea if it needed to be corrected or not. <sigh>

the buttons, list of suggested corrections, etc. are present and work ok. but I mis the automatic reading of the detected misspelled word, and the reading of the misspelled word in context feature.

the other thing is that there's no way that I know of to limit the spell checker to the email I send. I don't want the spell checker to check everything.

does anybody who uses TB have any suggestions or recommendations to facilitate the above comments?


Re: Windows 10: Edge is now used for web search results from taskbar search box

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

David,

I would tend to agree. This was the primary reason I wanted to test Cortana out. Many other things I would do with her, i.e. check weather, sports scores, etc. I do now with SIRI on my iPhone so setting Cortana up for that is simply not worth it. Hopefully, Microsoft will expedite making edge accessible or give folks the choice of which search engine and/or browser they wish to use.
I have no problem being forced to use something as long as it is accessible.

Best,
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: David Bailes via Groups.io [mailto:david_bailes=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows 10: Edge is now used for web search results from taskbar search box

In windows 10, if you open the start menu, type some search terms, and open a web search result, then until a few days ago, it used to open the search in your default browser. The same applied if you were using Cortana, and it didn't know the answer to your request.

However, Microsoft have changed this so these now open in the Edge browser, irrespective of which browser you have set as your default browser. Unfortunately, Edge is not accessible using Jaws or Window Eyes, though it is at least partially accessible using NVDA or narrator.

This seems like a very surprising decision by microsoft, to make this change before Edge is accessible by users of all the major screen readers. This is a link to the announcement by microsoft:
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/28/delivering-personalized-search-experiences-in-windows-10-through-cortana/

David.


Re: Windows 10: Edge is now used for web search results from taskbar search box

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Unfortunately, the only real work around I could think of is
to copy the URL and then open IE or your browser of choice
and paste it in there and then open it.
With this latest change, I may wait to get Cortana going
until either edge is accessible or Microsoft recants on
forcing one to use it in conjunction with Cortana.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason White via Groups.io
[mailto:jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10: Edge is now used for web search
results from taskbar search box

David Bailes via Groups.io
<david_bailes=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
However, Microsoft have changed this so these now open in
the Edge
browser, irrespective of which browser you have set as
your default browser.


Someone who is affected by this should call Microsoft's
accessibility support staff and find out what work-around
they offer. Apparently, Edge is about to become much more
accessible with newly introduced UIA support when the next
major Windows 10 update is released, so the problem will go
away then.


Re: Windows 10: Edge is now used for web search results from taskbar search box

 

Jason White wrote:  "Someone who is affected by this should call Microsoft's accessibility support staff and find out what work-around they offer."

The work-around would be doing a web search in your browser of choice the old fashioned way.

I think this move by Microsoft is stupid on a number of levels, but it's a business decision they've made and, based upon their public statements, they're certainly not going to back down from it.

Brian
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Re: Windows 10: Edge is now used for web search results from taskbar search box

Jason White
 

David Bailes via Groups.io <david_bailes=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
However, Microsoft have changed this so these now open in the Edge browser,
irrespective of which browser you have set as your default browser.

Someone who is affected by this should call Microsoft's accessibility support
staff and find out what work-around they offer. Apparently, Edge is about to
become much more accessible with newly introduced UIA support when the next
major Windows 10 update is released, so the problem will go away then.


Windows 10: Edge is now used for web search results from taskbar search box

David Bailes
 

In windows 10, if you open the start menu, type some search terms, and open a web search result, then until a few days ago, it used to open the search in your default browser. The same applied if you were using Cortana, and it didn't know the answer to your request.

However, Microsoft have changed this so these now open in the Edge browser, irrespective of which browser you have set as your default browser. Unfortunately, Edge is not accessible using Jaws or Window Eyes, though it is at least partially accessible using NVDA or narrator.

This seems like a very surprising decision by microsoft, to make this change before Edge is accessible by users of all the major screen readers. This is a link to the announcement by microsoft:
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/28/delivering-personalized-search-experiences-in-windows-10-through-cortana/

David.


Re: Thunderbird And JFW

majno <alfred.hl@...>
 

    Works very good. 4 or 5 years without problems.

El 01/05/2016 a las 19:13, brian albriton escribió:

I use outlook and like it just fine for accessibility and such.

How is thunderbird for a jaws user as an email program?

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 



Re: Thunderbird And JFW

cecropia64
 

Works fine for me.  I've been using it for the last eight years and haven't had a problem yet.

As for accessibility, it's pretty good.  Although it does have its  issues.  But nothing is perfect.

On 5/1/2016 8:13 PM, brian albriton wrote:

I use outlook and like it just fine for accessibility and such.

How is thunderbird for a jaws user as an email program?

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 



Re: Thunderbird And JFW

Maria Campbell
 

It's good.


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On 5/1/2016 8:13 PM, brian albriton wrote:

I use outlook and like it just fine for accessibility and such.

How is thunderbird for a jaws user as an email program?

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 



Thunderbird And JFW

brian albriton
 

I use outlook and like it just fine for accessibility and such.

How is thunderbird for a jaws user as an email program?

 

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 


Re: switching from elequence to vocalizer expressive:

Jacob
 

CTRL+Insert+S

OZ0TE Jacob

On 2016 05 01 at 19:34 Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi I have the vocalizer expressive sysnthesyser installed on the
computer, and was wondering how to switch from elequence to vocalizer
expressive in jaws?
Kenny Peyatt jr.


switching from elequence to vocalizer expressive:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi I have the vocalizer expressive sysnthesyser installed on the computer, and was wondering how to switch from elequence to vocalizer expressive in jaws?
Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: Outlook PST Files

James Homuth
 

There might be, but you'd probably get a more definitive answer on the blindtech list as this isn't really a JAWS related issue.
 
James,
List Admin


From: Jim Portillo [mailto:portillo.jim@...]
Sent: May-01-16 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook PST Files

Howdy,

 

I’m not sure of the answer to this question, so before I go experimenting and problem solving on someone else’s computer, I thought I’d ask the experts.

 

I’m helping someone set up a laptop.  While it came with MS Office, it came with the version that does not have Outlook on it.  I know that I can install Windows Live mail, from Windows Live Essentials.  That’s very similar to Outlook.  I kind of think of it as the little brother to Outlook.

Anyway, if this person was using outlook on a different computer and was able to get a PST file with all of his messages and contacts and such, would it be possible to somehow load or import the stuff on to the new computer and have Windows Live mail read it?

In doing a brief scan of Windows Live Mail, I’m not exactly sure how that would be done.

If this is possible, are there any precautions I need to take?  Everything is saved onto a thumb drive, so no danger there. 

I’m all for problem solving and experimenting, but when it’s not my computer and I’m helping someone else who doesn’t have much patience or isn’t very facile with technology, I want to be careful and do things as well as possible.

 

Thanks much.

 

Jim

 


Outlook PST Files

Jim Portillo
 

Howdy,

 

I’m not sure of the answer to this question, so before I go experimenting and problem solving on someone else’s computer, I thought I’d ask the experts.

 

I’m helping someone set up a laptop.  While it came with MS Office, it came with the version that does not have Outlook on it.  I know that I can install Windows Live mail, from Windows Live Essentials.  That’s very similar to Outlook.  I kind of think of it as the little brother to Outlook.

Anyway, if this person was using outlook on a different computer and was able to get a PST file with all of his messages and contacts and such, would it be possible to somehow load or import the stuff on to the new computer and have Windows Live mail read it?

In doing a brief scan of Windows Live Mail, I’m not exactly sure how that would be done.

If this is possible, are there any precautions I need to take?  Everything is saved onto a thumb drive, so no danger there. 

I’m all for problem solving and experimenting, but when it’s not my computer and I’m helping someone else who doesn’t have much patience or isn’t very facile with technology, I want to be careful and do things as well as possible.

 

Thanks much.

 

Jim

 


Re: gold wave and jaws 17

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Hello,

I'm using Gold Wave with Jaws 17 on a Win 10, 64 bit system
Gold Wave v6.19
Scripts can be found at:
http://www.jaws-users.com/scripts/

best,
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: Kristoffer Gustafsson [mailto:kg.kristoffer@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: goldwave and jaws 17

Hi.
Is there any way to get goldwave working with jaws 17?
I've Heard that I can't run older jaws scripts on that version.
/Kristoffer

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