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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Shift+Tab doesn't work any more, but Control+Shift+Tab does.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 5:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders No. .. Control Y works just fine for me here, as well as shift F6. I tend to use shift f6. What no longer works here for the Outlook folder list view is shift tab. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 10:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Huh? If I'm misunderstanding the question, you guys can't do CTRL y? Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsansong@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Glad it worked for you. Why this all changed this past summer is beyond me. I have talked with both FS and the Microsoft Acessibility hot line support people about this, and noone seems to have a clue or any ideas as to how to fix it. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: Thank you, shift F6 brought the mail folders list up for me. Brian Smith -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Brian: Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view. At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016. The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders? Brian Smith
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Re: Scan Disk Results
Mike, Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it. Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples. You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too. Brian
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Scan Disk Results
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi All,
Running Windows 7 & Jaws
16. Is there any easier way to view scan disk results in Windows 7?
I guess what I'm asking is, is there a command string that can be typed into the
Run dialogue, or in command prompt that would post the results as a text
file? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, & hope
everyone had the very happiest of New Years.
Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Tom Behler
Makes sense, Steve.
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Not a terribly big deal here; just an item of curiosity more than anything else. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 4:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders My guess is that Microsoft are standardising keyboard use within Microsoft Office. You have always had to use F6 and Shift + F6 to move between the Navigation pane and the document area in Word and PowerPoint, and when viewing the calendar or tasks in Outlook, where the navigation pane holds the list of folders. Removing the ability to use Tab and Shift + Tab for mail folders brings them into line with these other areas. If I'm right in this guess, then I wouldn't expect Microsoft to view this as something that needs fixing. Time will tell. Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io Sent: 04 January 2017 01:36 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote: Why this all changed this past summer is beyond me. The people who write the software could fix it if they chose. I don't know whether it was a deliberate design change or not, however. Anyone who really knew what they were doing, unfortunately, wouldn't be in a first-level technical support job - they would be in a programming job, or, at a minimum, in second or third-level technical support roles. One of the advantages of open-source software is that you really can write to a mailing list and, quite often, receive help from one of the authors of the software, who in some cases can track down the problem and fix it very quickly. The commercial software world often doesn't work that way. I remember when I was considering buying JAWS for DOS in circa 1992. I had some questions, so I made a phone call to the United States from my home in Australia - and there was Ted Henter on the other end of the line to tell me how good his software was and that it did indeed support the new DECTALK speech card that I had just bought. Henter-Joyce Inc., as we know, later merged into what became Freedom Scientific, and they've long since outgrown the days in which you could just call and (without even intending it) speak to the people at the top. The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association Registered Office: Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire, RG7 3YG. A company limited by guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity registered in England and Wales (209617) and Scotland (SC038979). Tel: 0118 9835555 Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk Email: guidedogs@...
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Tom Behler
No. .. Control Y works just fine for me here, as well as shift F6.
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I tend to use shift f6. What no longer works here for the Outlook folder list view is shift tab. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 10:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Huh? If I'm misunderstanding the question, you guys can't do CTRL y? Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsansong@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Glad it worked for you. Why this all changed this past summer is beyond me. I have talked with both FS and the Microsoft Acessibility hot line support people about this, and noone seems to have a clue or any ideas as to how to fix it. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: Thank you, shift F6 brought the mail folders list up for me. Brian Smith -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Brian: Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view. At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016. The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders? Brian Smith
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Steve Griffiths
My guess is that Microsoft are standardising keyboard use within Microsoft Office. You have always had to use F6 and Shift + F6 to move between the Navigation pane and the document area in Word and PowerPoint, and when viewing the calendar or tasks in Outlook, where the navigation pane holds the list of folders. Removing the ability to use Tab and Shift + Tab for mail folders brings them into line with these other areas.
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If I'm right in this guess, then I wouldn't expect Microsoft to view this as something that needs fixing. Time will tell. Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io Sent: 04 January 2017 01:36 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote: Why this all changed this past summer is beyond me. The people who write the software could fix it if they chose. I don't know whether it was a deliberate design change or not, however. Anyone who really knew what they were doing, unfortunately, wouldn't be in a first-level technical support job - they would be in a programming job, or, at a minimum, in second or third-level technical support roles. One of the advantages of open-source software is that you really can write to a mailing list and, quite often, receive help from one of the authors of the software, who in some cases can track down the problem and fix it very quickly. The commercial software world often doesn't work that way. I remember when I was considering buying JAWS for DOS in circa 1992. I had some questions, so I made a phone call to the United States from my home in Australia - and there was Ted Henter on the other end of the line to tell me how good his software was and that it did indeed support the new DECTALK speech card that I had just bought. Henter-Joyce Inc., as we know, later merged into what became Freedom Scientific, and they've long since outgrown the days in which you could just call and (without even intending it) speak to the people at the top. The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association Registered Office: Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire, RG7 3YG. A company limited by guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity registered in England and Wales (209617) and Scotland (SC038979). Tel: 0118 9835555 Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk Email: guidedogs@...
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Huh?
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If I'm misunderstanding the question, you guys can't do CTRL y? Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsansong@...
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Glad it worked for you. Why this all changed this past summer is beyond me. I have talked with both FS and the Microsoft Acessibility hot line support people about this, and noone seems to have a clue or any ideas as to how to fix it. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: Thank you, shift F6 brought the mail folders list up for me. Brian Smith -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Brian: Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view. At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016. The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders? Brian Smith
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Re: Deleting voices
Jason White
Melissa Stott <mstott69@...> wrote:
Hello,Choose Programs and Features from Control Panel or from the Windows+X context menu in Windows 10, find the voice in the list of installed programs and then uninstall it.
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Jason White
Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:
Why this all changed this past summer is beyond me. The people who write the software could fix it if they chose. I don't know whether it was a deliberate design change or not, however. Anyone who really knew what they were doing, unfortunately, wouldn't be in a first-level technical support job - they would be in a programming job, or, at a minimum, in second or third-level technical support roles. One of the advantages of open-source software is that you really can write to a mailing list and, quite often, receive help from one of the authors of the software, who in some cases can track down the problem and fix it very quickly. The commercial software world often doesn't work that way. I remember when I was considering buying JAWS for DOS in circa 1992. I had some questions, so I made a phone call to the United States from my home in Australia - and there was Ted Henter on the other end of the line to tell me how good his software was and that it did indeed support the new DECTALK speech card that I had just bought. Henter-Joyce Inc., as we know, later merged into what became Freedom Scientific, and they've long since outgrown the days in which you could just call and (without even intending it) speak to the people at the top.
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Deleting voices
Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
Hello, How do you delete a voice that you have downloaded in Vocalizer expressive using Windows10? Thanks,
Melissa
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Tom Behler
Glad it worked for you.
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Why this all changed this past summer is beyond me. I have talked with both FS and the Microsoft Acessibility hot line support people about this, and noone seems to have a clue or any ideas as to how to fix it. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: Thank you, shift F6 brought the mail folders list up for me. Brian Smith -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Brian: Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view. At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016. The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders? Brian Smith
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Brian Smith
Hello:
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Thank you, shift F6 brought the mail folders list up for me. Brian Smith
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders Brian: Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view. At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016. The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders? Brian Smith
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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders
Tom Behler
Brian:
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Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view. At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016. The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders Hello: In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders? Brian Smith
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Outlook 2016 Folders
Brian Smith
Hello:
In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders? Brian Smith
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Re: windows live mail feedback
Robert Logue
I'm just learning Outlook and Windows 10 Mail.
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Here are a couple helpful pages: Keyboard shortcuts for navigating mail in Outlook 2016: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Keyboard-shortcuts-for-navigating-Mail-in-Outlook-2016-ca79fe45-80e5-47dd-b7a0-841d4711ed53 Compare Mail and Calendar apps for Windows 10 with Outlook 2016 and Outlook 2013 https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Compare-Mail-and-Calendar-apps-for-Windows-10-with-Outlook-2016-and-Outlook-2013-16fa7c99-dc32-435b-ba2b-2ac9be56a0da I'm impressed that Outlook and Mail work fairly well with Windows 10 anniversary Narrator. The instructions assume the Jaws ribbon feature is turned off. Bob Bob
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin hunkin Sent: January 1, 2017 3:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: windows live mail feedback hi, my outlook is not working and not worth reinstalling or formatting windows for that, so, mail for windows 10 is not working for me, with jaws, so, pasting a link below to give feedback to microsoft, to see if they will reverse their decision to stop supporting windows live 2012, or to have a new updated app for windows 10. pasting the link below. marvin. https://survey2.securestudies.com/wix/p283998968.aspxMarvin -- Marvin Hunkin Blind Information Technology Student http://www.upskilled.edu.au
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Re: Mouse Advice
Since this question first came up I have been trying to figure out what, precisely, is being asked. All of the JAWS screen reader mouse controls related to clicking (that is, the ones not for getting the JAWS virtual cursor routed to the PC cursor or vice versa, or the Touch Cursor) do what a given click would do in context: Left click (Num Pad Slash) - select what's under the mouse pointer Right click (Num Pad Star) - generally, bring up the context menu like the App/Menu Key or SHIFT+F10 does The Drag and Drop command (CTRL+INS+NUM PAD SLASH) is like a left click and keeping it held down, allowing you to move the object(s) that were selected elsewhere. I believe you have to use the Left Click command to actually do the "drop" part of "Drag and Drop" whereas when using an actual mouse releasing the held down left mouse button is what does the drop with what you've been dragging while holding it down. If we're talking about the mouse routing commands I think those are discussed in the documentation regarding the virtual cursor.
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Re: Mouse Advice
george b <gbmagoo@...>
I would go to the freedom scientific site, and in the search field type in
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"mouse clicks"
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: January 2, 2017 22:34 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Mouse Advice I'm not for sure, but you might want to consider maybe looking in the keyboard help. On Dec 30, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Linda Hunt <lshunt@...> wrote:explanations about what the various mouse clicks do?
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Re: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Mario:
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Sorry about that. https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Delete-an-email-account-from-Mail-a nd-Calendar-apps-dba65c49-648d-4d76-9f88-b7bc22a2cc3d Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsansong@...
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 6:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account. Kimsan, the link you provided to the article does not navigate to the article, nor can I extract the underlying address. I'd like to make a note of this article for future reference, but can't. could you post the actual address? thanks. ------- Original Message -------- From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jan 3, 2017 2:51 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account. Hi, I googled this and followed instructions from this article <this%20article> but using jaws 17 or NVDA, I can't seem to delete or hide an email account. Thoughts? Thanks. Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsansong@...
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Re: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.
Mario
Kimsan, the link you provided to the article does not navigate to the
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article, nor can I extract the underlying address. I'd like to make a note of this article for future reference, but can't. could you post the actual address? thanks.
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From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@...] Sent: Tuesday, Jan 3, 2017 2:51 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account. Hi, I googled this and followed instructions from this article <this%20article> but using jaws 17 or NVDA, I can’t seem to delete or hide an email account. Thoughts? Thanks. Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsansong@...
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Re: stop JAWS announcing headers
Douglas C. DeCamp
The announcements started after a Microsoft service update to Excel 2016.
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There is no way to get rid of them unless I tried backing out the update, but I'll just live with it until FS fixes the issue. The row number or column letter is announced before the cell contents. If default cell verbosity is on then the row & column will then be announced after the cell contents. I.E. If I move down to cell A5 from A4 and verbosity is set to both the JAWS announcement will be 5 cell contents A5. With verbosity at contents only Jaws will say 5 cell contents. Most annoying. But, as I say FS promised to have it fixed by next V18 update. announced
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Poppa Bear Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 3:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers What method did you use to set the announcements -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 7:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers Mario, Don't know if this is the same issue for you, but my Excel 2016 (after a recent update) began speaking row and column numbers while moving around the spreadsheet even though my verbosity was set to cell contents only. I called Freedom Scientific who said this was a new known problem and that it would be corrected in the next Jaws update. Not sure if this is your exact same problem, but it sounds similar. I am using Win 10, Jaws 18 latest update, & Excel 2016. --hth--- -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:23 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers I think you're confusing headers with headings? headings are h1, h2, h3, etc. and my problem is a JAWS issue where the setting of column and row headers are spoken when I compose a different spreadsheet even though I haven't setup JAWS to announce headers as I compose or navigate/read thru. there must be a keystroke to affectively tell JAWS to unset the announcement of column and row headers in a spreadsheet. -------- Original Message -------- From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@...] Sent: Sunday, Jan 1, 2017 10:31 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers Are you using the same template? Once you set it in a spreadsheet I have not found a way to stop it, perhaps try to save as and give it a slightly different name and see if it still does it. Mayhap let us know what works for you. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:18 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers using Excel 2010, I have set JAWS to announce column and row headers as I navigate a spreadsheet to facilitate in creating a record of an ongoing issue. the problem I experience now when creating another spreadsheet for something else, JAWS announces the column and row headers, even though I haven't set JAWS to do so. quite confusing! how do I get JAWS to stop this. .
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