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Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
You could try that. But be sure to install it on an empty hard drive in case you have data you want to save on the one with Windows 11. And, if you can believe it, my sighted friend Markus (Yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), helped me to install Windows 10, with narrator! Isn't that amazing that you can install Windows using Narrator?
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On 07/06/2022 3:23 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:
thanks lol I'm Rosie lol
Iwould like to get window 10 but my new laptop is window 11 and it not work
well what I want too
install window 10 would it work?
thanks meow meow lol Rosie
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From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:16 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of
Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the
Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you
actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new
key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU.
Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value
to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of
Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does
sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be
bothered with constant updates!
On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:
how can u turn it off on window 11
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From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?
Hi Annabelle!
You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since
1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates
turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but
unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:
I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore,
but
don't hold me to that.
As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the
SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications
keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is
great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like
a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license
one
year.
If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even
a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS
Sales
and ask about your situation.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?
WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.
I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to
try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but
I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to
another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:
I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it
was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.
On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.
On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:
Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing
JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.
Gerald
On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.
>
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Makes perfect sense in the bureaucratic world.
Chrome is backed by Google; Edge by Microsoft.
major respected corporations; what or who stands behind Firefox.
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Re: isolating text in a particular colour in word
Awesome instructions! Skim reading with JAWS will search for colors as well.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 1:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: isolating text in a particular colour in word Hi Rahul, I’m going to provide what I hope will help you locate blue text in your Word document. The instructions I’m providing were done on a system running Windows 10, Fusion 2020, and Word 2019 so if any of my steps differ from yours, it might be due to that. Also, when searching for colors, I’m assuming whoever marked the color in your document used the standard color blue and not some derivation thereof. From the top of the Word document containing the blue text, do the following: - Press ctrl + h to open the find and replace dialog.
- You should be located In the find what text box but you can press alt + n to move there and type an * which is a wildcard to find anything.
- Press alt + m to open the more options.
- Press alt + u to tick the box to use wildcards.
- Press alt + o to open the Format drop-down list and arrow to Font and press enter.
- Press alt + c to open the Font color drop-down box and down arrow until you hear Standard colors and then right arrow to blue and press enter.
- Tab to the Ok button and press enter.
- Press alt + f to initiate the find next and you should be taken to the first occurrence of blue text in your document.
- Press esc to close the find and replace dialog so you can repeatedly press shift + F4 to navigate to the next occurrences of blue text within the document.
I hope this helps but write back if the steps are confusing, don’t work, or if you have more questions. Alan Lemly From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 12:28 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: isolating text in a particular colour in word Hi, I use Word 16, JAWS 2021, Win 10. I would like to be able to isolate, in a word document, all the text that is in blue. That is the text that I need to study. I am not able to do this. I have created a skim reading rule with blue is the text colour and white as the background colour. JAWS keeps ticking on pressing control+caps+down arrow after creating the rule. But does not read out any text. It finally says 'no matches found'. I know for a fact that there is some blue text in the document. Can someone help, please? Rahul
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Senior Resident Fellow,
Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford
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Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
thanks lol I'm Rosie lol Iwould like to get window 10 but my new laptop is window 11 and it not work well what I want too install window 10 would it work? thanks meow meow lol Rosie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 4:16 PM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs? Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU. Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be bothered with constant updates!
On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:
how can u turn it off on window 11
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From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Hi Annabelle!
You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:
I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.
As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.
If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?
WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.
I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:
I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.
On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.
On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:
Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.
Gerald
On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.
>
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Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Hey there Meow Meow!
Your name makes me smile! To turn off automatic updates in new versions of Windows like Windows 10, which doesn't seem to have that parameter in the Control Panel like other previous versions (That really makes me mad), you actually have to create a registry key. If it's not already there, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. create a new key called "WindowsUpdate". within that key, create another key called AU. Within that key, create a Dword value called NoAutoUpdate. Set that value to 1. If you have Winaero Tweaker, which also helps, set the parameter of Disable Windows Update to checked, and you should be good to go. It does sound complicated, but it's definitely worth it if you don't wanna be bothered with constant updates!
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On 07/06/2022 3:01 PM meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:
how can u turn it off on window 11
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From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select
which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Hi Annabelle!
You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something
funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:
I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.
As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.
If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional
Costs?
WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before
clicking links or opening attachments.
I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was
going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:
I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.
On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.
On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:
Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.
Gerald
On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.
>
KeyCorp Public
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Maybe so, but I would think that Microsoft and Google would pay more attention to the problem if they start hearing about it from a company like Freedom Scientific than from us lowly end users.
Gene...
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On 7/6/2022 5:55 PM, Afik Souffir wrote: I dont think this there fault.
Maybe microsoft or google since its happening in all screen readers?
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:33:22 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Ah! A community action! Let's all dump on Freedom Scientific about it so
they can't ignore it any more.
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 5:30 PM, Afik Souffir wrote:
If you can, email Fs about it and report it. Turns out they didn’t know it. When i’ve said its happend not just with jaws, they said maybe its the browsers. If more of us report to them and to microsoft, i beleve it’ll be fix.
Get Outlook for iOS <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&;data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbcdd97fea50e4aece93108da5f972a87%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927400144424570%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MVTMMyzNftLFT6E%2B810dHJ90SMxG11bWe9h5qez0dOY%3D&reserved=0 <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&;data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbcdd97fea50e4aece93108da5f972a87%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927400144424570%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MVTMMyzNftLFT6E%2B810dHJ90SMxG11bWe9h5qez0dOY%3D&reserved=0>>
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of meow meow <soberwater26q@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:26:44 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
which browser worse?
*From:* Chris Hill <mailto:hillco@... <mailto:hillco@...>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
<main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>> on behalf of Chris
Hill <hillco@...> <mailto:hillco@... <mailto:hillco@...>>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:19:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
<main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Only simple idea I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+
space and x.
CH
On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> <main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mike
Pietruk
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Afik
I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
The question is what; and the work around or fix.
Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS 2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal systems constantly, but not limited to them.
For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm finding myself at the bottom of the webpage, while I was in the center...
My touchpad is turned of.
This happened to me in any page.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Afik
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Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
how can u turn it off on window 11 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:16 AM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs? Yes, turning off automatic updates is a good thing.
I don't know if windows 10 or that newer one, LOL, allow one to select which
updates can be installed through windows update, like we can in earlier
windows.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
Hi Annabelle!
You woun't hear that from me! I've been the computer industry since 1980
and I have always felt that automatic updates are a very bad idea. The
problem with automatic updates is that you may get an update that does
bad thing to your computer, and while you might be able remove the
update, the automatic update feature will just put it back again. It is
always better to wait a while to see what others are saying about an
update and if the news isn't good, you just don't install it!
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 9:25 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned
off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately
I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something funky
that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken
accessibility.
On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<robin_van_lant@...> wrote:
I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and
home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but
don't hold me to that.
As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA,
but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep
progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it
becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great
for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a
fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one
year.
If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a
professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales
and ask about your situation.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
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I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going
to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try
to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm
not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another.
Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...> wrote:
I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.
On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.
On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:
Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.
Gerald
On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't
expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
I dont think this there fault.
Maybe microsoft or google since its happening in all screen readers?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:33:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Ah! A community action! Let's all dump on Freedom Scientific about it so
they can't ignore it any more.
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 5:30 PM, Afik Souffir wrote:
> If you can, email Fs about it and report it. Turns out they didn’t know
> it. When i’ve said its happend not just with jaws, they said maybe its
> the browsers. If more of us report to them and to microsoft, i beleve
> it’ll be fix.
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS < https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbcdd97fea50e4aece93108da5f972a87%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927400144424570%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MVTMMyzNftLFT6E%2B810dHJ90SMxG11bWe9h5qez0dOY%3D&reserved=0>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of meow meow
> <soberwater26q@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:26:44 AM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
> which browser worse?
>
> *From:* Chris Hill < mailto:hillco@...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:13 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
>
> I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the
> chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
>
> CH
>
>
>
> On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I’ve done that and its not help.
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>> < https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbcdd97fea50e4aece93108da5f972a87%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927400144424570%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MVTMMyzNftLFT6E%2B810dHJ90SMxG11bWe9h5qez0dOY%3D&reserved=0>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* main@jfw.groups.io < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> <main@jfw.groups.io> < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> on behalf of Chris
>> Hill <hillco@...> < mailto:hillco@...>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:19:01 PM
>> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> <main@jfw.groups.io> < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
>> Only simple idea I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+
>> space and x.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
>> >
>> >
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: main@jfw.groups.io < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io>
>> < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
>> > To: main@jfw.groups.io < mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>> > Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
>> >
>> > Afik
>> >
>> > I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
>> >
>> > The question is what; and the work around or fix.
>> >
>> > Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS 2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal systems constantly, but not limited to them.
>> >> For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm finding myself at the bottom of the webpage, while I was in the center...
>> >> My touchpad is turned of.
>> >> This happened to me in any page.
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Afik
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
well firefox is ok but it won't go back to last website that I want to go back sometime it would sometime it won't and alsowhen I want to download patterns the firefox have me to choose which to open and I only have 2 choice one is from firefox zoom and another is adobe reader but most of time adobe reader won't let me see it just blank and firefox zoom it did let me open it but it like some words togeter and line of of like stick together like row 1 continue to same line to row 12 all togeter it mess to me that I have to sepuate it -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 3:31 PM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge At this point I'd say none of them because they all have warts you have to deal with. The only thing you can do at this point is to decide which warts you are willing to deal with and which ones you won't.
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 5:26 PM, meow meow wrote:
which browser worse?
*From:* Chris Hill <mailto:hillco@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Chris Hill <hillco@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:19:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Only simple idea I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+
space and x.
CH
On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Afik
I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
The question is what; and the work around or fix.
Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS 2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal
systems constantly, but not limited to them.
For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm finding myself at the bottom of
the webpage, while I was in the center...
My touchpad is turned of.
This happened to me in any page.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Afik
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Ah! A community action! Let's all dump on Freedom Scientific about it so they can't ignore it any more.
Gene...
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 7/6/2022 5:30 PM, Afik Souffir wrote: If you can, email Fs about it and report it. Turns out they didn’t know it. When i’ve said its happend not just with jaws, they said maybe its the browsers. If more of us report to them and to microsoft, i beleve it’ll be fix.
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of meow meow <soberwater26q@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:26:44 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
which browser worse?
*From:* Chris Hill <mailto:hillco@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
Get Outlook for iOS <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=05%7C01%7C%7C8038da5126e347d4808b08da5f963b3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927396138550591%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nRRoKa6aIVCP80RXIxAi07AO4mIQ%2FXGce%2BLxQx9%2B1y8%3D&reserved=0>
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> on behalf of Chris Hill <hillco@...> <mailto:hillco@...>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:19:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Only simple idea I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+
space and x.
CH
On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Afik
I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
The question is what; and the work around or fix.
Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS 2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal systems constantly, but not limited to them.
For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm finding myself at the bottom of the webpage, while I was in the center...
My touchpad is turned of.
This happened to me in any page.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Afik
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
At this point I'd say none of them because they all have warts you have to deal with. The only thing you can do at this point is to decide which warts you are willing to deal with and which ones you won't.
Gene...
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 7/6/2022 5:26 PM, meow meow wrote: which browser worse?
*From:* Chris Hill <mailto:hillco@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Chris Hill <hillco@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:19:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Only simple idea I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+
space and x.
CH
On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Afik
I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
The question is what; and the work around or fix.
Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS 2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal
systems constantly, but not limited to them.
For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm finding myself at the bottom of
the webpage, while I was in the center...
My touchpad is turned of.
This happened to me in any page.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Afik
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
If you can, email Fs about it and report it. Turns out they didn’t know it. When i’ve said its happend not just with jaws, they said maybe its the browsers. If more of us report to them and to microsoft, i beleve it’ll be fix.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of meow meow <soberwater26q@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:26:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
which browser worse?
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
Only simple idea I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+
space and x.
CH
On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
>
> Afik
>
> I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
>
> The question is what; and the work around or fix.
>
> Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS 2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal systems constantly, but not limited to them.
>> For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm finding myself at the bottom of the webpage, while I was in the center...
>> My touchpad is turned of.
>> This happened to me in any page.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Afik
>>
>>
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Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
which browser worse?
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox
when the chromium-based browsers won't do the job. CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
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Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
Only simple idea I have is make sure the browser is
maximized using alt+ space and x. CH On 7/6/2022 10:54,
Afik Souffir wrote: > Hi, > > Yes!!!! It's really need to
fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work. > > >
-----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike Pietruk > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re:
jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge > > Afik > >
I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that
something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers. > > The
question is what; and the work around or fix. > > Will be
interested in the feedback of others on this. > > > On Wed,
6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote: > >>
Hi, >> >> In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows
10, and JAWS 2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal systems
constantly, but not limited to them. >> For example, I'm doing
something on SalesForce and then I'm finding myself at the bottom of the
webpage, while I was in the center... >> My touchpad is turned
of. >> This happened to me in any page. >> >> Any
ideas? >> >> Thanks, >> >>
Afik >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >
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On 7/6/2022 5:12 PM, meow meow wrote: how can u tell which firefox 101 or 102? I am using firefox too
thanks Rosie
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From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:52 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: : Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
You make a very good point, I installed Firefox 101 to avoid the context menu problems people are talking about in 102.
I still wish that Microsoft would resurrect Internet Explorer, but first take out all the active x crap. I always disabled it as a first step anyway. JAWS has never supported any browser as well as it supported Internet Explorer.
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 3:47 PM, Don Mauck wrote:
I'll point out that Firefox is having issues of its own such as not recognizing certain ARIA messages and picking ARIA-Live messages.
The overall inconsistency of these Browsers is getting to be more troublesome every month it would seem.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Same here, although I've never really been a fan of Firefox, this problem with Chromium is becoming such an annoyance that I have just installed Firefox 101 and have been learning how to use it and may end up making it my default browser. Which would be fitting in a way, I'm already using their email client, Thunderbird.
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 3:13 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the
chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
Get Outlook for iOS
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99h
Q!KUrJPE5Q9BOnG35BAzbEniDQb0Gpy0NcGCHTZ7fOurCseRRs1aokadaKdH4QaG7GpCd
LEAyoHLsNxr9MW4Hh$ >
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Hill <hillco@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:19:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge Only simple idea
I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+ space and x.
CH
On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike
Pietruk
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Afik
I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
The question is what; and the work around or fix.
Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS
2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal systems
constantly, but not limited to them.
For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm
finding
myself at the bottom of the webpage, while I was in the center...
My touchpad is turned of.
This happened to me in any page.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Afik
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Re: : Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
how can u tell which firefox 101 or 102? I am using firefox too thanks Rosie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 1:52 PM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: : Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge You make a very good point, I installed Firefox 101 to avoid the context menu problems people are talking about in 102.
I still wish that Microsoft would resurrect Internet Explorer, but first take out all the active x crap. I always disabled it as a first step anyway. JAWS has never supported any browser as well as it supported Internet Explorer.
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 3:47 PM, Don Mauck wrote:
I'll point out that Firefox is having issues of its own such as not recognizing certain ARIA messages and picking ARIA-Live messages.
The overall inconsistency of these Browsers is getting to be more troublesome every month it would seem.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Same here, although I've never really been a fan of Firefox, this problem with Chromium is becoming such an annoyance that I have just installed Firefox 101 and have been learning how to use it and may end up making it my default browser. Which would be fitting in a way, I'm already using their email client, Thunderbird.
Gene...
On 7/6/2022 3:13 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
I agree, hit has gotten worse. At lest I can use firefox when the
chromium-based browsers won't do the job.
CH
On 7/6/2022 12:21, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
I’ve done that and its not help.
Get Outlook for iOS
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99h
Q!KUrJPE5Q9BOnG35BAzbEniDQb0Gpy0NcGCHTZ7fOurCseRRs1aokadaKdH4QaG7GpCd
LEAyoHLsNxr9MW4Hh$ >
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Chris
Hill <hillco@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:19:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge Only simple idea
I have is make sure the browser is maximized using alt+ space and x.
CH
On 7/6/2022 10:54, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
Yes!!!! It's really need to fix quickly, it's effecting my daily work.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike
Pietruk
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws loosing focus in Chrome and Edge
Afik
I've noticed the same thing; my guess, off the top of my head, is that something has chhanged with the 2-chromium based browsers.
The question is what; and the work around or fix.
Will be interested in the feedback of others on this.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Afik Souffir wrote:
Hi,
In my work laptop, Lenovo Thinkpad i5 with windows 10, and JAWS
2022.22.06.9 JAWS is loosing focus in our CRM internal systems
constantly, but not limited to them.
For example, I'm doing something on SalesForce and then I'm
finding
myself at the bottom of the webpage, while I was in the center...
My touchpad is turned of.
This happened to me in any page.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Afik
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Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Then there’s support. If you want to get NVDA support, you really have to rely on the community, but you can hit FS directly. Updates are also more frequent with JAWS, at least one a month now. All the best
Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 11 June 2022 09:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA? Hi James, I find JAWS’s Office support better than NVDA’s, and also find it more responsive in Office applications. Some of its productivity features are also really good like text analyzer. This could be just my impression, but I also find the NVDA add-on process a bit messy, EG. a lot of add-ons always seem to break when NVDA is updated and it takes a while for them to get fixed. While I’m sure that does happen to external scripts and JAWS, it doesn’t feel as though it happens nearly as often. Cheers, Ed On 11 June 2022 09:03:58 "James Malone" <james.malone93502@...> wrote: Hi all,
inspired from an earlier topic, I got to wondering:
What makes people keep coming back to Jaws over NVDA? I also want to
emphasise that this is not a topic trying to bash one or the other,
I'd really like to hear some opinions from the Jaws side. What do you
think it does better? Where do you think it's weakness's are? I've
been a long time NVDA user and occasionally dabbled in Jaws here and
there over the past year or so. Something I commonly see is that Jaws
still seems to have better braille support. I also don't know how many
organisations would be super happy with the idea of putting NVDA on a
work computer, so there's that. I used Jaws growing up, so I have a
fair amount of experience in both readers. Using Jaws recently also
told me that the overall look and feel hasn't really changed either,
so there was next to no learning curve when it came to reacquainting
myself. I know NV access have been working on this, but to my
understanding Jaws also seems to have better UIA support, something
that can only be a positive!
Looking forward to hearing from you,
James
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Re: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Hi,
Just efficiency really.
A simple example is reading Email in Outlook 365. JAWS will continue to read the whole Email as soon as you open it, but NVDA will only read the first line and give all that garbage about HTML document and stuff. NVDA is simply not as polished as JAWS. In fact, Narrator does a better job with outlook than NVDA.
Just my personal opinion, but I'd say if you're a home user, NVDA is fine, but when the rubber hits the road, JAWS has more chops.
All the best
Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: 11 June 2022 09:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Curiosity: What makes people choose Jaws over NVDA?
Hi all,
inspired from an earlier topic, I got to wondering:
What makes people keep coming back to Jaws over NVDA? I also want to emphasise that this is not a topic trying to bash one or the other, I'd really like to hear some opinions from the Jaws side. What do you think it does better? Where do you think it's weakness's are? I've been a long time NVDA user and occasionally dabbled in Jaws here and there over the past year or so. Something I commonly see is that Jaws still seems to have better braille support. I also don't know how many organisations would be super happy with the idea of putting NVDA on a work computer, so there's that. I used Jaws growing up, so I have a fair amount of experience in both readers. Using Jaws recently also told me that the overall look and feel hasn't really changed either, so there was next to no learning curve when it came to reacquainting myself. I know NV access have been working on this, but to my understanding Jaws also seems to have better UIA support, something that can only be a positive!
Looking forward to hearing from you,
James
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Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer
I agree with doing it this way, especially after I had the import utility refuse to import any of my settings from an export file. It is now also my preferred way to backup my settings.
Gene...
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On 7/6/2022 4:51 PM, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi,
A better way in my view than using JAWS export/import stuff, is to go to Utilities, then Explore Utilities Folder, then Explore My Settings.
Once in there, Copy Control A and Control C, everything to the clipboard, and paste it onto a USB stick or another drive.
Next go into the other JAWS machine, go to Utilities, Explore Utilities, Explore My Settings, and paste everything in there that you copied.
This assumes that both versions of JAWS are the same version, but all the scripts and everything should come over.
All the best
Steve
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Curtis Chong
*Sent:* 09 June 2022 02:33
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer
Bill:
I do not know. I suspect there is a user folder that can be copied in its entirety to capture custom scripts, etc. But since I have never done this, my advice here would be, at best, guess work.
Warmly,
Curtis Chong
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2022 7:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer
Hi, Curtis. Will the Export function of JAWS export custom scripts contained in the JAWS folders, or only the normal JAWS settings?
Bill White
billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Curtis Chong
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2022 6:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer
Mark:
Take a look at the Import/Export Settings functions in the JAWS Utilities Menu.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Mark
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2022 7:17 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer
Does any one know of good references for copying JAWS settings from one computer to a second computer? I have some scripts I want to be sure to have, amongst other settings, sounds, and things.
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Hi Claudia, There are loads. My own favourites are the VarioUltra displays from VisioBraille. All the best
Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: 10 June 2022 06:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Braille Displays Hi, I have only worked with the Focus 40 Blue, and my department at work is trying to get this for me. However, it looks like it is currently sold out, so what other braille display could I research that will work well with JFW? Or, is this the best one, since I believe it was made to work with Jaws? Thanks. Claudia
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Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer
Hi, A better way in my view than using JAWS export/import stuff, is to go to Utilities, then Explore Utilities Folder, then Explore My Settings. Once in there, Copy Control A and Control C, everything to the clipboard, and paste it onto a USB stick or another drive. Next go into the other JAWS machine, go to Utilities, Explore Utilities, Explore My Settings, and paste everything in there that you copied. This assumes that both versions of JAWS are the same version, but all the scripts and everything should come over. All the best Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: 09 June 2022 02:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer Bill: I do not know. I suspect there is a user folder that can be copied in its entirety to capture custom scripts, etc. But since I have never done this, my advice here would be, at best, guess work. Warmly, Curtis Chong From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2022 7:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer Hi, Curtis. Will the Export function of JAWS export custom scripts contained in the JAWS folders, or only the normal JAWS settings? From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer Mark: Take a look at the Import/Export Settings functions in the JAWS Utilities Menu. Cordially, Curtis Chong From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2022 7:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Duplicating JAWS settings on a second computer Does any one know of good references for copying JAWS settings from one computer to a second computer? I have some scripts I want to be sure to have, amongst other settings, sounds, and things.
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