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moderated Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

What's even more interesting, I run Windows with Automatic Updates turned off. I know most folks will say that's a security risk, but unfortunately I learned the hard way when I updated Windows 7 and it did something funky that led to mismatched drivers, program incompatibility, and broken accessibility.

On 07/06/2022 5:57 AM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <robin_van_lant@...> wrote:


I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA, but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales and ask about your situation.

Robin


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Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

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I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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moderated Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Gene Warner
 

They do, I have a home license that I keep up to date with SMAs.

Gene...

On 7/6/2022 8:57 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:
I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but don't hold me to that.
As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA, but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one year.
If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales and ask about your situation.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?
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I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>





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moderated Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

Gene Warner
 

Hi Vicky!

Curiosity question here. Since you are allowed to activate JAWS on up to three computers with just one license, is there a reason why you couldn't just do that with the other computer instead of buying a separate license for it?

Gene...

On 7/6/2022 12:17 AM, Vicky Collins wrote:
Just to respond back to this long thread to confirm that I did indeed call FS today, and I couldn’t be happier as I certainly got more than I expected from the call. I was able to renew my SMA for the $120 plus the state sales tax, and I also opted to get the Home Annual license for three years for the $228 plus the sales tax since I have more than one computer.
I spoke with Kathleen at FS, and she went out of her way to be very helpful, even during this convention week when the FS folks were really busy and working extra hours. I did ask about the $210/$168 for the SMA, and while she did believe me when I told her what pricing the website showed, she wasn’t sure why it was showing those prices. I also asked if the reduced prices on the three and five year JAWS Home Annual licenses were the regular prices as the website indicated or convention specials, and she confirmed those were the convention prices.
I had to get a different serial number for the three year license than I had for the one year one. However, since my license for the Home Annual one year didn’t expire until the end of August, Kathleen very nicely disabled that license as of now and added those days onto my new three year license so I wouldn’t lose those 57 days with the change in license term.
Kathleen also offered to send me an email with my serial number and authorization code for the SMA renewal I purchased. And seeing as I only had that original CD or DVD or whatever where the braille was pretty much becoming unreadable, I was happy to take her up on that offer. And just in case I would happen to need it, she also sent me the same information for my OpenBook software.
Thus, I am very pleased with my purchase experience and purchases and hope things also turn out well for the rest of you.
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
*From: *Kestrel Verlager <mailto:kestrell@...>
*Sent: *Monday, July 4, 2022 3:24 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Thanks!
Kestrell
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Vicky Collins
*Sent:* Monday, July 4, 2022 9:17 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
That’s what I got as well, even though the email from FS reminding me of  the renewal seemed to talk about links to all the options. So to find the three and five year options, pick the shop online link from the main FS website, then the software for home link, then the JAWS Home Annual  link, and then scroll down and you’ll find the link for the three and five year options after the description of the one year license.
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
*From: *Kestrel Verlager <mailto:kestrell@...>
*Sent: *Monday, July 4, 2022 8:37 AM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
When I go to renew my Jaws Home license, I don’t get any options for anything other than a one year renewal.
What does one have to do to get the option for three or five year license renewals?
Kestrell
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Vicky Collins
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:22 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Actually, I’m almost thinking it might be a late charge for not purchasing the SMA by the end of last year, as I recall that prices used to go up for the SMA if one waited until after the end of the year when using their last SMA count. In fact, since I was waiting until the conventions to decide which type of license to renew, I hadn’t yet purchased the 2023 and 2024 SMA and so also got the $210 price when I put in my serial number, but then I got the lower $168 price, actually $178 something with sales tax,  after going to the checkout page.
Also, when I checked the JAWS Home Annual license page, it did show me the lower price from the $95 for each year, but then it said that lower price was the regular price.
Thus, I’m kind of wondering two things, so maybe I’ll be in line to call FS on Tuesday as well. First, regarding the SMA, is the $120 price only for those folks who renewed their SMA in what FS considers a timely manor, or is it for anyone who is currently running a 2022 license of JAWS? And second, regarding the discount for the three and five year Home Annual licenses, is this a discount for the conventions only, or is it now the normal discount for purchasing so many years at one time?
Finally, and I hope this will make sense, below I’ll copy and paste what I got when checking my serial number on the upgrade page, what I saw when bringing up the checkout page for the SMA, and finally what is shown on the store page regarding the three year Home Annual license:
Congratulations! Our records show that you are licensed for release 2022 of JAWS Single User and are eligible to renew your SMA for $210. This will entitle you to receive JAWS Single User releases up to version 2024.
JAWS Home Edition Screen Reader - SMA Late Renewal
Download Only
1
x
$168.00
JAWS HOME ANNUAL - NON-RECURRING
Regular price$228.00
LICENSE TERM
3-year JAWS Non-Recurring
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
*From: *Loy <mailto:loyrg2845@...>
*Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:53 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
FS must think you have the professional, because the Home edition shouldn't
cost  but $120 .
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@... <mailto:timelord09@...>>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
Actually, I have the Home Use Edition, I got mine through the Window-eyes
switch over to Jaws too.
William Vandervest
timelord09@... <mailto:timelord09@...>
Win10 latest revision
There are none so blind, as those who will not see.
William Vandervest
u
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 18:25
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
That must have been for the professional, most people don't need the
professional license.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@... <mailto:timelord09@...>>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
I just purchased my sma renewal for $168.00 but I didn't learn about that
price until I got to the cart on the FS site, until I got there it waslisted
at $210.00.
William Vandervest
timelord09@... <mailto:timelord09@...>
Win10 latest revision
There are none so blind, as those who will not see.
William Vandervest
u
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 17:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License
This is how I understand it. If you paid the initial license price of
$950 for JAWS and have kept your SMAs up to ddate, then SMAs are better
because they only cost $60 per year with the discount and $75 per year
without the discount. But if you can't afford the initial license price
of $950, then the annual license is better because it doesn't require
that initial huge outlay of cash.
Gene...
On 7/2/2022 5:23 PM, Don H wrote:

> So I have been purchasing a SMA for JAWS and not purchasing the annual

> subscription.  Guess I don't really know which is better.

>

> On 7/2/2022 4:19 PM, Loy wrote:

>> No, The $120 deal is for the SMA license. However there is a sale price

>> for the Home annual license I think it is $20 a year off if you buy 2 or

>> more years. .

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica M"
<misswings@... <mailto:misswings@...>>

>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:23 PM

>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>

>>

>>> I just renewed myyearly license back in April, as I pay the $95 per

>>> year. If I get this $120 deal, will it add on to my existing time

>>> remaining, or should I save my money?  I thought $95 was a good deal,

>>> but if one can pay either $120 or $150 for two years and get the same

>>> thing you get for $95 a year, that's a better money saver.

>>>

>>> At 12:30 PM 7/2/2022, you wrote:

>>>> If 2022 was your last upgrade that your SMA entitled you to then to

>>>> get the lower $150 price, you should have bought another two years

>>>> before they released the 2022 version. That is what I meant by

>>>> letting your SMAs expire. Sorry for the confusion.

>>>>

>>>> Gene...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On 7/2/2022 11:21 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>> My sma is good for jfw 2022 so it hasn't expired yet

>>>>>

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> timelord09@... <mailto:timelord09@...>

>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> u

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On Behalf Of

>>>>> Gene Warner

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:40

>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>>>> You probably let your SMAs expire, they do charge you for that.

>>>>> Gene...

>>>>>

>>>>> On 7/2/2022 10:34 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>>> I just checked my sma and a renewal would cost $210.00, big bummer

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>> timelord09@... <mailto:timelord09@...>

>>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>>>

>>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>>

>>>>>> u

>>>>>>

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On Behalf Of

>>>>>> Mike

>>>>>> Pietruk

>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:13

>>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

>>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Gerald

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I haven't seen any discounts offered this convention season for
Jaws.

>>>>>> Generally, the most cost effective way to purchase a SMA is to

>>>>>> renew for 2

>>>>>> years instead of 1 at the time of renewal.

>>>>>> As I'm set through the 2024 upgrade, it shows me no prices when

>>>>>> looking at

>>>>>> the upgrade page.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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moderated Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?

Gene Warner
 

Hi Darren!

I encountered that problem too, I'd have to go through the login process several times before it would work.

Hi Mark!

I'd say you are lucky. Unlike you I found transfering my photos directly off the phone much easier than dealing with Apple's web site.

At this point I am so annoyed with the lie that is Apple's accessibility statement that I can no longer support them by using any of their products. So I am now researching Android phones as well as the Blind Shell 2, especially now that you can use it for Aira. Apple can pound sand for all that I care about them any more.

Gene...

On 7/5/2022 12:18 PM, Darren Tomblin wrote:
Hi just wondering if anyone has tried using passwords from iCloud I’ve done all the steps but when I tried to insert one there’s none
73,
Darren Tomblin KC9JJJ

On Jul 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Mark Fisher <fishsilv@...> wrote:

Hi

I must be lucky - I've had no problems downloading photos after logging into iCloud on my PC. If anything, I've found it a lot easier than what I used to do with plugging in the iPhone.  It could be a little more accessible and having a little vision helps.
--
Mark Fisher
Manager - People Systems
Water Corporation of Western Australia


moderated Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Van Lant, Robin
 

I have a SMA for a professional license, since I use it for work and home. I'm not sure FS even offers a SMA for home licenses anymore, but don't hold me to that.

As I understand it, JAWS is mine to keep, even if I don't renew the SMA, but eventually the software won't work as Windows and applications keep progressing. Like you, I like the idea of owning my copy, even if it becomes outdated if I don't renew the SMA. The annual license is great for removing the barrier of entry for new JAWS users, but feels like a fleeting thing that you lose if you cannot afford the annual license one year.

If your last SMA was 2002, you may not be able to switch base to even a professional SMA at this point. You are probably best to call FS Sales and ask about your situation.

Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?
On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>











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moderated Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

Loy
 


I don't understand why you need a SMA and the Annual Home license when you can run JAWS SMA on three computers.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

Just to respond back to this long thread to confirm that I did indeed call FS today, and I couldn’t be happier as I certainly got more than I expected from the call. I was able to renew my SMA for the $120 plus the state sales tax, and I also opted to get the Home Annual license for three years for the $228 plus the sales tax since I have more than one computer.

 

I spoke with Kathleen at FS, and she went out of her way to be very helpful, even during this convention week when the FS folks were really busy and working extra hours. I did ask about the $210/$168 for the SMA, and while she did believe me when I told her what pricing the website showed, she wasn’t sure why it was showing those prices. I also asked if the reduced prices on the three and five year JAWS Home Annual licenses were the regular prices as the website indicated or convention specials, and she confirmed those were the convention prices.

 

I had to get a different serial number for the three year license than I had for the one year one. However, since my license for the Home Annual one year didn’t expire until the end of August, Kathleen very nicely disabled that license as of now and added those days onto my new three year license so I wouldn’t lose those 57 days with the change in license term.

 

Kathleen also offered to send me an email with my serial number and authorization code for the SMA renewal I purchased. And seeing as I only had that original CD or DVD or whatever where the braille was pretty much becoming unreadable, I was happy to take her up on that offer. And just in case I would happen to need it, she also sent me the same information for my OpenBook software.

 

Thus, I am very pleased with my purchase experience and purchases and hope things also turn out well for the rest of you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Kestrel Verlager
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

Thanks!

 

Kestrell

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 9:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

That’s what I got as well, even though the email from FS reminding me of  the renewal seemed to talk about links to all the options. So to find the three and five year options, pick the shop online link from the main FS website, then the software for home link, then the JAWS Home Annual  link, and then scroll down and you’ll find the link for the three and five year options after the description of the one year license.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Kestrel Verlager
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 8:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

When I go to renew my Jaws Home license, I don’t get any options for anything other than a one year renewal.

 

What does one have to do to get the option for three or five year license renewals?

 

Kestrell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

Actually, I’m almost thinking it might be a late charge for not purchasing the SMA by the end of last year, as I recall that prices used to go up for the SMA if one waited until after the end of the year when using their last SMA count. In fact, since I was waiting until the conventions to decide which type of license to renew, I hadn’t yet purchased the 2023 and 2024 SMA and so also got the $210 price when I put in my serial number, but then I got the lower $168 price, actually $178 something with sales tax,  after going to the checkout page.

 

Also, when I checked the JAWS Home Annual license page, it did show me the lower price from the $95 for each year, but then it said that lower price was the regular price.

 

Thus, I’m kind of wondering two things, so maybe I’ll be in line to call FS on Tuesday as well. First, regarding the SMA, is the $120 price only for those folks who renewed their SMA in what FS considers a timely manor, or is it for anyone who is currently running a 2022 license of JAWS? And second, regarding the discount for the three and five year Home Annual licenses, is this a discount for the conventions only, or is it now the normal discount for purchasing so many years at one time?

 

Finally, and I hope this will make sense, below I’ll copy and paste what I got when checking my serial number on the upgrade page, what I saw when bringing up the checkout page for the SMA, and finally what is shown on the store page regarding the three year Home Annual license:

 

 

Congratulations! Our records show that you are licensed for release 2022 of JAWS Single User and are eligible to renew your SMA for $210. This will entitle you to receive JAWS Single User releases up to version 2024.

 

JAWS Home Edition Screen Reader - SMA Late Renewal

 

Download Only

 

1

x

$168.00

 

JAWS HOME ANNUAL - NON-RECURRING

Regular price$228.00

LICENSE TERM

 

3-year JAWS Non-Recurring

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

FS must think you have the professional, because the Home edition shouldn't

cost  but $120 .

----- Original Message -----

From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:39 PM

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

 

Actually, I have the Home Use Edition, I got mine through the Window-eyes

switch over to Jaws too.

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 18:25

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

That must have been for the professional, most people don't need the

professional license.

----- Original Message -----

From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:49 PM

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

 

I just purchased my sma renewal for $168.00 but I didn't learn about that

price until I got to the cart on the FS site, until I got there it waslisted

at $210.00.

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene

Warner

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 17:31

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

This is how I understand it. If you paid the initial license price of

$950 for JAWS and have kept your SMAs up to ddate, then SMAs are better

because they only cost $60 per year with the discount and $75 per year

without the discount. But if you can't afford the initial license price

of $950, then the annual license is better because it doesn't require

that initial huge outlay of cash.

 

Gene...

 

 

On 7/2/2022 5:23 PM, Don H wrote:

> So I have been purchasing a SMA for JAWS and not purchasing the annual

> subscription.  Guess I don't really know which is better.

> On 7/2/2022 4:19 PM, Loy wrote:

>> No, The $120 deal is for the SMA license. However there is a sale price

>> for the Home annual license I think it is $20 a year off if you buy 2 or

>> more years. .

>> 

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica M" <misswings@...>

>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:23 PM

>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>> 

>> 

>>> I just renewed myyearly license back in April, as I pay the $95 per

>>> year. If I get this $120 deal, will it add on to my existing time

>>> remaining, or should I save my money?  I thought $95 was a good deal,

>>> but if one can pay either $120 or $150 for two years and get the same

>>> thing you get for $95 a year, that's a better money saver.

>>> 

>>> At 12:30 PM 7/2/2022, you wrote:

>>>> If 2022 was your last upgrade that your SMA entitled you to then to

>>>> get the lower $150 price, you should have bought another two years

>>>> before they released the 2022 version. That is what I meant by

>>>> letting your SMAs expire. Sorry for the confusion.

>>>> 

>>>> Gene...

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> On 7/2/2022 11:21 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>> My sma is good for jfw 2022 so it hasn't expired yet

>>>>> 

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> timelord09@...

>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> u

>>>>> 

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>>>>> Gene Warner

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:40

>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>>>> You probably let your SMAs expire, they do charge you for that.

>>>>> Gene...

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 7/2/2022 10:34 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>>> I just checked my sma and a renewal would cost $210.00, big bummer

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>> timelord09@...

>>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> u

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>>>>>> Mike

>>>>>> Pietruk

>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:13

>>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Gerald

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I haven't seen any discounts offered this convention season for Jaws.

>>>>>> Generally, the most cost effective way to purchase a SMA is to

>>>>>> renew for 2

>>>>>> years instead of 1 at the time of renewal.

>>>>>> As I'm set through the 2024 upgrade, it shows me no prices when

>>>>>> looking at

>>>>>> the upgrade page.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Cornelius
 

Yes it is easy, however if you didn't renew it come the expiry date, your JAWS will be back to 40 minute demo mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Wednesday, 6 July, 2022 5:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS,
starting with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license
option, you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS
outright for $950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to
change it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a
home license for JAWS 2021.

>





moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs

Joe DiNero
 

Good morning,

 

As already mentioned you could go to Freedom Scientifics website for their webinars on demand. Someone mentioned that there might be a problem with the site, if so as an alternative, you could subscribe to the Freedom Scientific Training podcast on Spotify which has all their training webinars.

 

If you go to YouTube, there was also a webinar by APH on Google Docs. The webinar was done with Elizabeth Whitaker, so the majority of the material will probably be the same, but it is another option.

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 6:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs

 

Hello List,

I was wondering if anyone on this list kknew of resources for learning how to use Accessible RSS feeds and where to find good RSS feeds.

Also, my graduate program uses Google Docs for a lot of their classroom interaction. I am not very familiar how to use Google docs and it’s suite of products with Jaws 2022. Can anyone points me to good resources on how to learn.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated about Jaws and outlook express .

Joseph Machise
 

about Jaws and outlook express .

Hi list lost the instructions on making rules so that my gmail e-mails can go to my gmail folder in outlook express Jaws doesn't give enough instructions.

If anybody can help would appreciate it from Joseph.



How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
have been all of these.
George Washington Carver.
 
 


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs

Kestrel Verlager <kestrell@...>
 

If you do a web search for

Jaws webinars on demand +google docs

You will get at least one result, though I’m almost certain there was another one just recently. I would check, but the website seems to be experiencing some issues at the moment.

 

If you use the Clubhouse app, I would add the JFW room, or however it is referred to, as they have more help webinars every week.

 

Here is a help doc on Google Workspace Accessibility by Colorado State University which should help you find Google’s own help docs

https://oit.colorado.edu/services/messaging-collaboration/google-workspace/accessibility/docs

 

Kestrell

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 6:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs

 

Hello List,

I was wondering if anyone on this list kknew of resources for learning how to use Accessible RSS feeds and where to find good RSS feeds.

Also, my graduate program uses Google Docs for a lot of their classroom interaction. I am not very familiar how to use Google docs and it’s suite of products with Jaws 2022. Can anyone points me to good resources on how to learn.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I purchased my SMA with a college trust fund back in 2002, as I was going to school back then. The SMA was a "Professional" license. I want to try to change my recent home annual license to a perpetual license, but I'm not sure how much it would cost to upgrade from one license to another. Am I right when I hear that a perpetual license never expires?

On 07/06/2022 2:58 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:


I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS, starting
with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license option,
you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS outright for
$950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to change
it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a home
license for JAWS 2021.

>






moderated Re: Changing From One License Type to Another: Additional Costs?

molly the blind tech lover
 

I used to have an SMA for Jaws, not sure which version of Jaws it was.
My SMA had expired, and rather than renewing the SMA I purchased the
home annual yearly subscription for around $95. In my opinion it's
easier than trying to renew an expired SMA.

On 7/3/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
I originally purchased an SMA when I originally purchased JAWS, starting
with version 3.7.

On 07/03/2022 3:27 AM Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited@...> wrote:




Sorry, no can do. Once you have selected the annual license option,
you cannot switch to the SMA option without purchasing JAWS outright for
$950, if you have not previously done so.


Gerald



On 7/2/2022 9:59 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
I have an Annual license for JAWS 2021, and I'd like to change
it to a perpetual license. Those are the ones that don't expire, right?
Will it cost me anything? If so, how much. Specifically, I have a home
license for JAWS 2021.

>





moderated Re: Need App that records Zoom Meetings and Works Well with Jaws

David Diamond
 

That is subjective at best.  Some zoom meetings I’ve been on the host would ask every single member on the zoom call if they minded being recorded,  which could be tedious at best. Other calls no problems like that.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: July 5, 2022 8:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need App that records Zoom Meetings and Works Well with Jaws

 

The easiest way is to ask the host for permission to record, which when granted, you can use the record function in Zoom.

Alternatively, you could also use GoldWave to record by setting the record device to the respective sound card. This however is not ideal if your Zoom and screen reader uses the same sound device , as it means your screen reader sound will also appear in the recording.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: July 4, 2022 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need App that records Zoom Meetings and Works Well with Jaws

 

I want to record material that comes through my sound card, e.gb., a Zoom session that I am listening to. I recall someone mentioning such an app, but I can’t locate the pertinent email.  I can’t use the Zoom Record feature as I am not a host. Can someone suggest such an app that works well with Jaws and that records what comes through the sound card?

Thanks very much!

Terrie Terlau

 


moderated Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

Vicky Collins
 

Just to respond back to this long thread to confirm that I did indeed call FS today, and I couldn’t be happier as I certainly got more than I expected from the call. I was able to renew my SMA for the $120 plus the state sales tax, and I also opted to get the Home Annual license for three years for the $228 plus the sales tax since I have more than one computer.

 

I spoke with Kathleen at FS, and she went out of her way to be very helpful, even during this convention week when the FS folks were really busy and working extra hours. I did ask about the $210/$168 for the SMA, and while she did believe me when I told her what pricing the website showed, she wasn’t sure why it was showing those prices. I also asked if the reduced prices on the three and five year JAWS Home Annual licenses were the regular prices as the website indicated or convention specials, and she confirmed those were the convention prices.

 

I had to get a different serial number for the three year license than I had for the one year one. However, since my license for the Home Annual one year didn’t expire until the end of August, Kathleen very nicely disabled that license as of now and added those days onto my new three year license so I wouldn’t lose those 57 days with the change in license term.

 

Kathleen also offered to send me an email with my serial number and authorization code for the SMA renewal I purchased. And seeing as I only had that original CD or DVD or whatever where the braille was pretty much becoming unreadable, I was happy to take her up on that offer. And just in case I would happen to need it, she also sent me the same information for my OpenBook software.

 

Thus, I am very pleased with my purchase experience and purchases and hope things also turn out well for the rest of you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Kestrel Verlager
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

Thanks!

 

Kestrell

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 9:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

That’s what I got as well, even though the email from FS reminding me of  the renewal seemed to talk about links to all the options. So to find the three and five year options, pick the shop online link from the main FS website, then the software for home link, then the JAWS Home Annual  link, and then scroll down and you’ll find the link for the three and five year options after the description of the one year license.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Kestrel Verlager
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 8:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

When I go to renew my Jaws Home license, I don’t get any options for anything other than a one year renewal.

 

What does one have to do to get the option for three or five year license renewals?

 

Kestrell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

Actually, I’m almost thinking it might be a late charge for not purchasing the SMA by the end of last year, as I recall that prices used to go up for the SMA if one waited until after the end of the year when using their last SMA count. In fact, since I was waiting until the conventions to decide which type of license to renew, I hadn’t yet purchased the 2023 and 2024 SMA and so also got the $210 price when I put in my serial number, but then I got the lower $168 price, actually $178 something with sales tax,  after going to the checkout page.

 

Also, when I checked the JAWS Home Annual license page, it did show me the lower price from the $95 for each year, but then it said that lower price was the regular price.

 

Thus, I’m kind of wondering two things, so maybe I’ll be in line to call FS on Tuesday as well. First, regarding the SMA, is the $120 price only for those folks who renewed their SMA in what FS considers a timely manor, or is it for anyone who is currently running a 2022 license of JAWS? And second, regarding the discount for the three and five year Home Annual licenses, is this a discount for the conventions only, or is it now the normal discount for purchasing so many years at one time?

 

Finally, and I hope this will make sense, below I’ll copy and paste what I got when checking my serial number on the upgrade page, what I saw when bringing up the checkout page for the SMA, and finally what is shown on the store page regarding the three year Home Annual license:

 

 

Congratulations! Our records show that you are licensed for release 2022 of JAWS Single User and are eligible to renew your SMA for $210. This will entitle you to receive JAWS Single User releases up to version 2024.

 

JAWS Home Edition Screen Reader - SMA Late Renewal

 

Download Only

 

1

x

$168.00

 

JAWS HOME ANNUAL - NON-RECURRING

Regular price$228.00

LICENSE TERM

 

3-year JAWS Non-Recurring

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

FS must think you have the professional, because the Home edition shouldn't

cost  but $120 .

----- Original Message -----

From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:39 PM

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

 

Actually, I have the Home Use Edition, I got mine through the Window-eyes

switch over to Jaws too.

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 18:25

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

That must have been for the professional, most people don't need the

professional license.

----- Original Message -----

From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:49 PM

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

 

I just purchased my sma renewal for $168.00 but I didn't learn about that

price until I got to the cart on the FS site, until I got there it waslisted

at $210.00.

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

u

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene

Warner

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 17:31

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

 

This is how I understand it. If you paid the initial license price of

$950 for JAWS and have kept your SMAs up to ddate, then SMAs are better

because they only cost $60 per year with the discount and $75 per year

without the discount. But if you can't afford the initial license price

of $950, then the annual license is better because it doesn't require

that initial huge outlay of cash.

 

Gene...

 

 

On 7/2/2022 5:23 PM, Don H wrote:

> So I have been purchasing a SMA for JAWS and not purchasing the annual

> subscription.  Guess I don't really know which is better.

> On 7/2/2022 4:19 PM, Loy wrote:

>> No, The $120 deal is for the SMA license. However there is a sale price

>> for the Home annual license I think it is $20 a year off if you buy 2 or

>> more years. .

>> 

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica M" <misswings@...>

>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:23 PM

>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>> 

>> 

>>> I just renewed myyearly license back in April, as I pay the $95 per

>>> year. If I get this $120 deal, will it add on to my existing time

>>> remaining, or should I save my money?  I thought $95 was a good deal,

>>> but if one can pay either $120 or $150 for two years and get the same

>>> thing you get for $95 a year, that's a better money saver.

>>> 

>>> At 12:30 PM 7/2/2022, you wrote:

>>>> If 2022 was your last upgrade that your SMA entitled you to then to

>>>> get the lower $150 price, you should have bought another two years

>>>> before they released the 2022 version. That is what I meant by

>>>> letting your SMAs expire. Sorry for the confusion.

>>>> 

>>>> Gene...

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> On 7/2/2022 11:21 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>> My sma is good for jfw 2022 so it hasn't expired yet

>>>>> 

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> timelord09@...

>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>> u

>>>>> 

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>>>>> Gene Warner

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:40

>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

>>>>> You probably let your SMAs expire, they do charge you for that.

>>>>> Gene...

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 7/2/2022 10:34 AM, William Vandervest wrote:

>>>>>> I just checked my sma and a renewal would cost $210.00, big bummer

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>> timelord09@...

>>>>>> Win10 latest revision

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> William Vandervest

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> u

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>>>>>> Mike

>>>>>> Pietruk

>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:13

>>>>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>>>>>> Subject: Re: Convention Discounts On JAWS Annual License

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>>>>>> Gerald

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>>>>>> I haven't seen any discounts offered this convention season for Jaws.

>>>>>> Generally, the most cost effective way to purchase a SMA is to

>>>>>> renew for 2

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>>>>>> As I'm set through the 2024 upgrade, it shows me no prices when

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moderated Re: Need App that records Zoom Meetings and Works Well with Jaws

Cornelius
 

The easiest way is to ask the host for permission to record, which when granted, you can use the record function in Zoom.

Alternatively, you could also use GoldWave to record by setting the record device to the respective sound card. This however is not ideal if your Zoom and screen reader uses the same sound device , as it means your screen reader sound will also appear in the recording.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: July 4, 2022 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need App that records Zoom Meetings and Works Well with Jaws

 

I want to record material that comes through my sound card, e.gb., a Zoom session that I am listening to. I recall someone mentioning such an app, but I can’t locate the pertinent email.  I can’t use the Zoom Record feature as I am not a host. Can someone suggest such an app that works well with Jaws and that records what comes through the sound card?

Thanks very much!

Terrie Terlau

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Apple's iCloud?

Darren Tomblin
 

Hi just wondering if anyone has tried using passwords from iCloud I’ve done all the steps but when I tried to insert one there’s none

73,
Darren Tomblin KC9JJJ

On Jul 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Mark Fisher <fishsilv@...> wrote:

Hi

I must be lucky - I've had no problems downloading photos after logging into iCloud on my PC. If anything, I've found it a lot easier than what I used to do with plugging in the iPhone.  It could be a little more accessible and having a little vision helps.
--
Mark Fisher
Manager - People Systems
Water Corporation of Western Australia


moderated Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR

Gene Warner
 

Don't hold your breath waiting for OB updates, the last time it was updated was August 2018 or almost four years ago.

Gene...

On 7/5/2022 7:06 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:
For certain items JAWS OCR is more accurate. Hopefully Vespero will take time to revamp and update Openbook. The program lacks in many areas including bugs in the settings center.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR
I have found that OB does a better job than the convenient OCR.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR
I don't know as I usually don't have time or inclination to fool around
with it. I usually just use Open Book for all my OCR work, it uses the
Abby Fine Reader engine and of the three engines, it consistently gets
the best results.
Gene...
On 7/5/2022 2:27 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Curious,
I wonder if simply the act of switching straightens out the OCR process.
So if someone has poor results, you could try switching to Microsoft's
engine, but don't use it, and switch back to FS's engine, and see if it
works better.
Or scan with Microsoft's, and then go back to the FS engine and see if it
starts working right on the same file.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2022 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR


Maybe so, but I've gotten pure garbage from the JAWS default engine but
got decent results from the same document from the Microsoft engine.

And then again I've also gotten garbage from Microsoft's engine and got
good results from the default engine.

So I prefer to think that it depends on what you are scanning.

Gene...


On 7/5/2022 1:56 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Jaws is using omnipage, likely a lot better than anything MS includes
for free.



On 7/5/2022 12:07, Loy wrote:
There is an option in JAWS to use Microsoft's default OCR engine with
JAWS convenient OCR. Is it a better OCR engine than the one that
comes with JAWS?









moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs

Gene Warner
 

Hi Milton!

While it not just for RSS, Thunderbird not only does email, it also does RSS feeds and is very accessible.

Before I discovered Thunderbird's RSS capabilities, I tried looking for an accessible RSS feed reader, and while there were several, I didn't like any of them.

The only one I can recall now is Q Feed by Accessible Apps, but I don't recommend it because there is for all practical purposes, no support. There is a support email address, but nobody ever replies.

Gene...

On 7/5/2022 6:23 PM, Milton Ota wrote:
Hi,
For Google Doc and some of the Google applications, go to the pass webinars on the Freedom Scientific website as there are training material there that have been done during the past year that are still current and applicable.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Lukacsena
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 5, 2022 5:17 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs
Hello List,
I was wondering if anyone on this list kknew of resources for learning how to use Accessible RSS feeds and where to find good RSS feeds.
Also, my graduate program uses Google Docs for a lot of their classroom interaction. I am not very familiar how to use Google docs and it’s suite of products with Jaws 2022. Can anyone points me to good resources on how to learn.
Thanks,
Jeff Lukacsena


moderated Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR

Dan Longmore
 

For certain items JAWS OCR is more accurate. Hopefully Vespero will take time to revamp and update Openbook. The program lacks in many areas including bugs in the settings center.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR

I have found that OB does a better job than the convenient OCR.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR


I don't know as I usually don't have time or inclination to fool around
with it. I usually just use Open Book for all my OCR work, it uses the
Abby Fine Reader engine and of the three engines, it consistently gets
the best results.

Gene...


On 7/5/2022 2:27 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Curious,
I wonder if simply the act of switching straightens out the OCR process.
So if someone has poor results, you could try switching to Microsoft's
engine, but don't use it, and switch back to FS's engine, and see if it
works better.
Or scan with Microsoft's, and then go back to the FS engine and see if it
starts working right on the same file.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2022 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR


Maybe so, but I've gotten pure garbage from the JAWS default engine but
got decent results from the same document from the Microsoft engine.

And then again I've also gotten garbage from Microsoft's engine and got
good results from the default engine.

So I prefer to think that it depends on what you are scanning.

Gene...


On 7/5/2022 1:56 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Jaws is using omnipage, likely a lot better than anything MS includes
for free.



On 7/5/2022 12:07, Loy wrote:
There is an option in JAWS to use Microsoft's default OCR engine with
JAWS convenient OCR. Is it a better OCR engine than the one that
comes with JAWS?









moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

 

For Google Doc and some of the Google applications, go to the pass webinars on the Freedom Scientific website as there are training material there that have been done during the past year that are still current and applicable.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 5:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for resources for Accessible RSS and Google Docs

 

Hello List,

I was wondering if anyone on this list kknew of resources for learning how to use Accessible RSS feeds and where to find good RSS feeds.

Also, my graduate program uses Google Docs for a lot of their classroom interaction. I am not very familiar how to use Google docs and it’s suite of products with Jaws 2022. Can anyone points me to good resources on how to learn.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena