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Re: good accessible backup programs
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Why not use Dropbox or even better OneDrive? If you get an Office 365 subscription for $59 a year (single) or $99 a year (family) you get 1 Tb of OneDrive storage at no extra cost. Of course you also get a license to download and install Office 2016 on up to 5 computers and you get 60 Skype calling minutes to phones each months. Considering that 1 Tb of Dropbox storage is I think $120 a year and that is just storage without any additional perks Microsoft's offer is probably as good as it gets unless you need more than 1 Tb of course.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: good accessible backup programs Hey guys, Anyone know of a good accessible backup program that backs up to the cloud? I've got a harddrive of very important data that i don't wanna lose. Any suggestiong of something that works well with jfw?
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Re: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016
Rahul Bajaj
Dear Maria,
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Thank you so much for your detailed and informative response. Actually, I am not using a genuine version of Office 2016 since the same is exorbitantly priced in India. So I cannot upgrade to the latest version. While I continue to face issues 1 to 3, I have tried using your strategy to deal with issue 4. However, after I press alt-r-n on the comment concerned, JAWS says 'comment pane' followed by 'blank'. It doesn't allow me to engage with the text in that comment. I am not sure what can be done about this. I have JAWS 16 and Windows 8. I cannot install the latest version of JAWS since my dongle is only for JAWS 16. Any ideas as to what I could do? Best, Rahul
On 24/02/2017, Maria Kristic <maria.kristic@...> wrote:
Hi Rahul,
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good accessible backup programs
Jed Barton
Hey guys,
Anyone know of a good accessible backup program that backs up to the cloud? I've got a harddrive of very important data that i don't wanna lose. Any suggestiong of something that works well with jfw?
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J18.0.2530 Update Download Links + What's New
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi All,
I would like to thank david for
getting the download links, & what I did was add what's new in this release
to them.
32 Bit:
64 Bit:
Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.2530
(February 2017)
The following is a list of
improvements made between the JAWS 18 January 2017 release and the February 2017
update.
To download the latest release, visit
the
Downloads web page. New Support for ElBraille
Applications
This update adds JAWS scripts for
Keyboard Editor and ElNotes, applications included specifically on the new
ElBraille, a Windows 10 Notetaker from Elita
Group. The ElBraille is a Windows 10
computer in the shape and size of a traditional notetaker, and is designed for
users who are blind or deaf-blind and want
to stay connected at school, work, or home as well as on the go. The twenty-first century, take anywhere replacement for the dedicated notetaker, ElBraille combines the power and flexibility of a modern mainstream computer running the Windows 10 operating system with JAWS and a braille display with a full braille keyboard to offer a fully accessible compact computer. JAWS provides the best screen reader experience with either Eloquence speech output or the highly responsive and life-like Vocalizer Expressive Compact voices as well as full braille output. Type text into documents or perform JAWS and Windows commands right from the braille display's keyboard using the JAWS BrailleIn feature. Run any Windows application such as Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, or Outlook. Use FSReader to read DAISY books from sources such as Bookshare.org or browse the internet with Microsoft Internet Explorer or Mozilla Firefox. ElBraille also includes a set of specially designed apps for performing popular actions such as the creation of voice or text notes, listening to audio content, and more. The ElNotes application developed by
Elita Group is designed to create, store, and manage text and voice notes on the
ElBraille Notetaker. ElNotes allows
a user to quickly create text and voice notes using a set of special keystrokes and then export them to TXT or MP3 files respectively, if needed. These files are saved to a user-specified folder and then are available to be read and listened to using other ElBraille applications. The ElBraille Keyboard Editor is
designed for adding, modifying, and removing keystrokes using ElBraille buttons
and Focus 14 Blue keys. Users can assign
a keystroke to launch an application, simulate a QWERTY keyboard shortcut, or perform a JAWS script. Amazon Kindle App
Support
JAWS now supports reading books in
Amazon's Kindle for PC app version 1.19 and later. This enables users to access
books purchased through the Amazon Kindle
store right on their Windows PC using both speech and braille. Books can be navigated using all standard reading commands including reading by character, word, line, paragraph, and continuously with Say All. As JAWS reads, pages turn automatically so you can enjoy a book without interruption. JAWS can only access Kindle books
that support Enhanced Typesetting. The product details for the book on the
Amazon web site indicates if Enhanced Typesetting
is enabled. This exposes the necessary information to screen readers and provides access to the book content. Tip: Pressing CTRL+HOME or CTRL+END
while reading a Kindle book moves to the top or bottom of the current page
instead of the top or bottom of the document
as in other applications. To move to the beginning or end of the book, you can use the Go to Location dialog box which is accessed using the Kindle command CTRL+G. Google Docs Improvements
To improve the user experience with
Google Docs, Google Sheets, and Google Drive, the Virtual Cursor is now turned
off by default when focus is in any
of these applications. Since these are basically programs running inside a browser window with their own sets of keystrokes, turning off the Virtual Cursor makes it much easier to interact and provides an environment that feels more like a standard application. In some situations, the Virtual
Cursor will be automatically turned on when it is needed to review information.
For example, pressing CTRL+SLASH in Google
Docs opens a page listing available Google shortcut keys. When the page opens, the Virtual Cursor is automatically turned on so you can review the keystrokes. When you press ESC to close the keyboard shortcuts page and return focus to the document, the Virtual Cursor is turned off again. The very first time you open a Google
Docs file, you will need to turn on Google's screen reader support and Braille
Support before you can read and edit
documents using JAWS. You will only need to do this once as both settings will remain on for all future documents. To enable screen reader support, press ALT+CTRL+Z. You should hear the announcement "Screen reader support enabled." To enable braille support, Press ALT+SHIFT+A for the Accessibility menu, open the Settings submenu, and press ENTER on Enable Braille Support. This setting must be enabled even if you do not use a refreshable braille display. In addition, some other key
improvements include:
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• Pressing INSERT+F1 in Google Docs or Google Sheets now displays some basic help including useful keystrokes. • Pressing INSERT+C in Google Sheets now announces the current cell coordinates. • Support for bulleted and numbered lists. • You can now use the INSERT+B command to read the contents of web dialog boxes in Google Docs such as Spell Checker or Preferences. • The JAWS table navigation commands (CTRL+ALT+ARROW keys) now work as expected in Firefox and Chrome when reading tables in Google documents. • Addressed an issue where Say All would stop unexpectedly when reading in Google Docs with Chrome. • When navigating by line over headings in a document in Google Docs, resolved an issue where the contents of the Chrome address bar were being spoken prior to the heading text. list end JAWS
list of 7 items • When both JAWS and ZoomText are running, resolved issues with the CAPS LOCK key not always working as expected in the desktop keyboard layout when used with other keys to perform commands or when pressing it twice quickly to turn caps lock on or off. • Added Landmarks as an available navigation type for the Touch Cursor (SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS). To cycle through the different navigation types, use PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN. Landmarks are used in several Windows 10 apps including Weather for improved navigation. • Updated the JAWS UIA Script API to support the latest properties and values added by Microsoft. The JAWS UIA Script API gives scripters direct access to Microsoft's UIA (User Interface Automation) infrastructure through the JAWS Script language. See the Enhancements in Scripting page for more information. • Resolved a customer reported issue with the UPS Tracking Research IT lookup source not returning any results. • Addressed an issue where the INSERT+B command to read dialog boxes in tab order was not working as expected in the Microsoft OneDrive Sync dialog box. • The Mouse Echo Toggle key on the MAGic Large Print Keyboard now turns JAWS Mouse Echo on or off if JAWS is running by itself without MAGic. • During a JAWS Tandem session, if a User Account Control dialog box is displayed on a Windows 10 target system, resolved an issue where the Tandem video would freeze until the connection was closed and restarted. Also improved the screen refresh rate when changing the focus on a Windows 10 target system. list end Microsoft Office
Note: We have been working very
closely with Microsoft to improve the accessibility of Office 2016 (Office 365).
Many of the following improvements were
able to be made due to changes Microsoft implemented directly in Office. If you find that a particular fix is not working in your current version of Office, some of the changes documented below will not work as described until the next Office update scheduled to be released shortly. list of 15 items
• When using the JAWS Command Search feature in Word to search for commands specific to Track Changes, addressed a reported issue where not all keystrokes were being displayed. • You can now read and edit headers, footers, footnotes, endnotes, and comments in Word 2016. • While navigating tables in Word 2013 and 2016, resolved an issue where JAWS was not automatically announcing column and row headers. • Added support for the Smart Lookup and Researcher panes in Office 2016. • Resolved an issue where JAWS was not indicating links in Office dialog boxes. • When searching for text in a Word document, addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not always reading the sentence containing the match when moving to the next result in the Navigation pane. • Resolved a customer reported issue in Word where JAWS was speaking the entire line as you typed and was also inserting characters in other parts of the document after using CTRL+UP ARROW or CTRL+DOWN ARROW to move by paragraph. • Resolved an issue reported by customers in Spain where closing Word 2007 with unsaved documents was sometimes causing problems with navigation and focus when multiple windows were open. • JAWS now announces position information, such as "4 of 10", in Outlook 2016 message lists when using the Say Line command (INSERT+UP ARROW). • Improved both speech and braille support for Data Validation combo boxes in Excel. These are accessed by pressing ALT+DOWN ARROW from the current cell. • JAWS now reads autocomplete suggestions in Excel 2016 for functions when entering a formula. • If an image on a slide in PowerPoint 2016 is selected, resolved an issue where no alt text was being displayed in braille, only the text "no selection." • Improved JAWS support for the Notes pane in PowerPoint 2016, especially when editing notes attached to a SmartArt graphic. • JAWS now detects SmartArt graphics during a slideshow in PowerPoint 2016. • Resolved an issue with Microsoft Project where JAWS was double speaking values in tables. list end Web Browsers
list of 12 items • Added support for the ARIA 1.1 colspan and rowspan properties as well as the new "feed" role. • Added support for the new values that can be assigned to the haspopup property in ARIA 1.1. For instance, depending on the value of ARIA-haspopup, you might hear JAWS say "has popup", "has popup menu", "has popup listbox", "has popup grid", "has popup tree", or "has popup dialog." • Added support for the ARIA-roledescription property in Internet Explorer. • Addressed an issue reported by the SSA where JAWS was not announcing levels when opening or closing treeview items in Internet Explorer. • Addressed a customer reported issue with JAWS not reading buttons as expected on the Amazon web site. • Addressed reported issues where JAWS was not always working properly with tables contained inside of a layout table using the ARIA role="presentation" property. • The Custom Label utility, which enables users to assign custom text labels to HTML elements on web pages, can now be used in Google Chrome. This utility is available from the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2). • Improved JAWS reading in table cells containing large amounts of text when Document Presentation is set to Screen Layout. • Resolved issues where JAWS was speaking extraneous information while navigating in certain ARIA combo boxes. • Addressed an issue with Chrome where the Say To Cursor and Say From Cursor commands (INSERT+HOME and INSERT+PAGE UP) were reading the entire line in edit fields instead of the specific text. • Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was not speaking the correct text when tabbing through links in a Navigation region in Firefox. • Resolved an issue where navigating menus in Internet Explorer and Firefox using Focus Blue Braille display keys was not working as expected. list end Windows Mail
list of 2 items • When closing a message in the Windows 10 mail app which returns focus to the message list, JAWS no longer incorrectly says "not selected" for the current message. • The JAWS commands for navigating tables now work in tables inserted into a new email message. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: getting to the view menu
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Jed. If you are using JAWS, go to the Settings Menu with Insert plus six on the numbers row. Load the Default JAWS configuration file with CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D. Navigate to the Miscellaneous menu, and make sure Virtual Ribbon is UNCHECKED. If it is checked, it can block the use of certain traditional Windows shortcuts.
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Re: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016
Maria Kristic
Hi Rahul,
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With the latest JAWS 18 build (build 18.0.2530), latest updates to Office 365, and Windows 10 installed, I was unable to reproduce issues 1-3, and I believe you are experiencing issue 4 because of the changes made in Word 2016 as to how comments are displayed--see notes below. Since you said you just installed Office 2016, I wonder if the installers are always updated to reflect the latest updates, so I would suggest checking for updates in Windows, installing any updates available for Office, and then trying again. I tested your issues on a large Word file I created by copying/pasting several files to create a 2,880-page document. Here's what happened, using the desktop version of Word 2016: 1. It did take my seven-year-old computer about 20 seconds, but when I accessed the Word Count option from the Review tab of the ribbon, the dialog did eventually come up, and I was able to access it (e.g., 2,880 pages, 1,368,661 words, etc.) 2. I went to page 585 and used CTRL+DOWN ARROW to move continuously through paragraphs until I got to page 591, and then used CTRL+UP ARROW to move in reverse, and the cursor moved by paragraphs as expected. 3. I performed a Say All at page 585 and let it go to page 594...The pages read straight through as expected. 4. As this also does not work with another screen reader I tried, I believe, as I said above, that this is due to Word 2016 changes. Comments are now displayed in a separate Comments pane which appears when necessary. That is, when I select the option to create a new comment from the Review tab for example, the pane appears with an edit area in focus, I write and navigate the comment as I would in a typical edit field, and I press ESC when done to save the comment and return to the document. In order to make the pane visible again and thus be able to edit/delete comments, the most efficient way I have found is to use JAWS' Comments List feature together with Review ribbon Comments group shortcuts. I use the JAWS feature (CTRL+SHIFT+APOSTROPHE) or cursor movement to navigate to where the comment I want to manipulate is located. Then, I press ALT+R, N to activate the Next Comment button on the Review tab, which causes the Comments pane to appear with the comment I want to manipulate in focus. I can change what is written in the edit field. ALT+R, V activates the Previous Comment button of the Review tab and presents the previous comment in an edit field in the Comments pane; ALT+R, N activates the Next one; ALT+R, D activates the Delete split button from which I can choose to delete the comment in focus or all comments in the document; ESC closes the pane and returns me to the document. Hope it helps! Regards, Maria
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016 challenges while using word:Hi All, over and over again as opposed to moving forward; and 4. Right-clicking a1. JAWS and Word get hanged when I open the word count in the review comment does not give you access to options that can help you edit/delete a comment. JAWS pretends that the comment doesn't exist and displays the same context menu that it would without the comment being there. much appreciated.This is significantly hampering my productivity; any pointers would be
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jaws18 update released;
david
Jaws18 64bit:
http://jaws18.vfo.digital/253067BAST/J18.0.2530enu-x64.exe
jaws18 32bit:
http://jaws18.vfo.digital/253067BAST/J18.0.2530enu-x86.exe
Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
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Re: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016
Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
Are you making sure that the window is maximized with windows/up arrow? I
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016 There was a Jaws release today that addresses some of these issues. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016 challenges while using word:Hi All, tab;1. JAWS and Word get hanged when I open the word count in the review arrow in large documents beyond a particular point;2. JAWS often doesn't read anything at all when you press over and over again as opposed to moving forward; and3. When you press the say all command, JAWS reads the same chunk of help you edit/delete a comment. JAWS pretends that the comment doesn't exist4. Right-clicking a comment does not give you access to options that and displays the same context menu that it would without the comment being there. much appreciated.This is significantly hampering my productivity; any pointers would
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Re: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016
Cristóbal
There was a Jaws release today that addresses some of these issues.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Problems Faced While Using Word 2016 challenges while using word:Hi All, tab;1. JAWS and Word get hanged when I open the word count in the review arrow in large documents beyond a particular point;2. JAWS often doesn't read anything at all when you press control+down over and over again as opposed to moving forward; and3. When you press the say all command, JAWS reads the same chunk of text help you edit/delete a comment. JAWS pretends that the comment doesn't exist4. Right-clicking a comment does not give you access to options that can and displays the same context menu that it would without the comment being there. much appreciated.This is significantly hampering my productivity; any pointers would be
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Scripts
Betsy Binney
Hi All,
You have been so helpful in the past I am hoping somebody has this answer.
I am in need of Scripts that work with EPIC medical software. Does anyone have an idea if there is such a thing or if there is a place that will write it for me. Also a BIG FAVOR would you send this on to any other JAWS lists you belong to and see if there is help anywhere?
Thanks so much,
Betsy
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Re: getting to the view menu
david
Hello;
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Try; Alt+v=view, 2, tab until you hear something like, Layout change the view, Press enter, 3, now use the arrow key, look for list grid, and press enter. Hope this helps. Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: getting to the view menu Hey guys, Trying to get to the view menu in a folder, but i can't get there in windows 10 and jfw 17. When i do alt V it just dings at me. Any ideas what i am doing wrong? There is a stupid ribin that comes up. Cheers, Jed
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Re: contacting Freedom Scientific
Here's the Freedom Scientific Technical Support Webpage. Take your pick of your preferred contact method.
-- Brian A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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contacting Freedom Scientific
Juan Hernandez
Hello,
I am starting to use Jaws as my primary screen reader because my old screen reader window-eyes, well things don’t look good for the future of that screen reader.
I just downloaded the latest Ultra Edit version 24.0.0.49
And I can no longer navigate the preferences screens. When I tab through the various options, the only read a single letter. Probably the shortcut keyboard command to jump to that option.
I wanted to report this to FS as with Window-Eyes this is no issue. It reads the prefs with no issues. Also NVDA has no issues with reading the configuration preferences screens.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Best, Juan Hernandez 619-750-9431 (M) | 858-777-3311 (F) My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn
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Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Yes, it is similar to Pica. It is quite manageable.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document I use Courier New at home constantly, I think I use 11 points, and for the reason you cite. It's very similar to Pica. I've varied between 11 and 12 over the years. Ted -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document The default is five spaces, and when you press Alt-O-T, you first clear all, then set, then change default if you want. I have one some documents where most of the tabs are left align, but one or two, according to which document are set for decimal alignment. Those I have set in Currier New Font, since the characters or like typewriters, and the figures will align correctly that way - advice from my husband the printer. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document First, I understand your question. At first glance, 2015 doesn't seem as intuitive as versions once were. I'd begin by concentrating on the layout tab. You need to know the kind of tab you're setting. It also won't hurt to know spaces per inch in the font you're using. I think the default tab is five spaces, but these aren't your father's fonts. Ted From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Setting Tabs In A Word Document Hello, everyone. I know I have done this before, but I'm having trouble remembering how to set tabs in a Microsoft Word document. I am trying to create a report form for a project I'm working on, and want to set three or four tabs for each line on the form. I am using Word 2016 here, with Windows 7. Thanks for any memory jogs anyone can provide. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: compatability mode
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
My guess is that there is nothing retrievable.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: compatability mode Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear, The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on disk is, 4.0 KB! Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM Subject: Re: compatability mode Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or something like that, then it could be a dead duck. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: compatability mode Hi Jed, First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no characters. But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, & nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either. So, I don't think there's anything to read. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM Subject: compatability mode Hey guys, OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word. It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i get it out of this. It's screwing everything up0
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Re: getting to the view menu
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Alt+V still works, but it does have a ribbon menu, no way around that. One useful shortcut in Windows 10 is Alt+2 (that is the 2 on the number row), it will create a new folder if you are in a Folder already. In Windows 7 you used to have to press Alt+F, then “w” for New and “f” for folder, in Windows 10 it’s just Alt+2.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting to the view menu
I would try hitting ESC a couple of times before you hit ALT+V as you will get dings if you already have another tab that has focus. I don't know exactly what you mean with regard to "stupid ribbon" as the View Tab in both File Explorer (current name) and Windows Explorer (former name) has been the same ribbon for well over a decade now and began with Windows 7, I believe. If anything
has changed, at all, it's quite subtle and all indications are that it is precisely the same. A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: getting to the view menu
I would try hitting ESC a couple of times before you hit ALT+V as you will get dings if you already have another tab that has focus. I don't know exactly what you mean with regard to "stupid ribbon" as the View Tab in both File Explorer (current name) and Windows Explorer (former name) has been the same ribbon for well over a decade now and began with Windows 7, I believe. If anything has changed, at all, it's quite subtle and all indications are that it is precisely the same. A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: compatibility mode
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
That’s probably a default. File-cluster size is predetermined, according to the total size of the hard drive.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: compatability mode why is the size on disk reported as 4 kb? just curious. :| -------- Original Message -------- From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...] Sent: Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 10:16 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: compatability mode Then it’s an empty document. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: compatability mode Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear, The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on disk is, 4.0 KB! Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Arnold<mailto:4carolyna@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM Subject: Re: compatability mode Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or something like that, then it could be a dead duck. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: compatability mode Hi Jed, First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no characters. But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, & nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either. So, I don't think there's anything to read. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM Subject: compatability mode Hey guys, OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word. It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i get it out of this. It's screwing everything up0
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Problems Faced While Using Word 2016
Rahul Bajaj
Hi All,
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Re: compatability mode
Mario
why is the size on disk reported as 4 kb? just curious. :|
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From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...] Sent: Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 10:16 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: compatability mode Then it’s an empty document. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: compatability mode Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear, The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on disk is, 4.0 KB! Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Arnold<mailto:4carolyna@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM Subject: Re: compatability mode Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or something like that, then it could be a dead duck. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: compatability mode Hi Jed, First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no characters. But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, & nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either. So, I don't think there's anything to read. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM Subject: compatability mode Hey guys, OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word. It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i get it out of this. It's screwing everything up0
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