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Re: how to get Jaws to read youtube subtitles
Oh sorry! Please ignore my previous email.
There should be a button in youtube to turn subtitles on and off.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 2 October 2022 2:31 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: how to get Jaws to read youtube subtitles
Hi. I am trying to read a speech in a foreign language and there are subtitles, but how to get Jaws to read them -- I see one line of text which changes, but Jaws does not read it as the speech is going.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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How do
you spend it?
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Re: how to get Jaws to read youtube subtitles
Hi,
I just press Alt and Tab to switch to another window and press it again to return to the player.
Cheers
Zel
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 2 October 2022 3:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get Jaws to read youtube subtitles
That's a good question.
There are times when JAWS seems to randomly just start reading the subtitles as they go, but ti's definitely not consistent -- also definitely not something you want all of the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: October 1, 2022 02:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: how to get Jaws to read youtube subtitles
Hi. I am trying to read a speech in a foreign language and there are subtitles, but how to get Jaws to read them -- I see one line of text which changes, but Jaws does not read it as the speech is going.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici wb2una
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Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Well maybe this tool is better, more
thorough.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
have the full version of Minitool Partition Wizard, which has that same
function, but when I tried that parameter, nothing changed.
On 10/03/2022 11:19 AM Glenn / Lenny < glenn@...> wrote:
Hey Annabelle,
Please let the list
know if this tool works for your computer problem, that is, the booting
problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Bill:
Annabelle may not need
to use the Windows recovery disk option.
there is a program
called "Disk Genius", which is very accessible with screen readers. In the
program, there is a function, which will rebuild the MBR information for her
system disk. Once that has been done, Annabelle should hopefully be able to
boot her system, using the system disk thus, avoiding the hastle of
reinstalling and reconfiguring all her software. the free version of the
program can be downloaded from the download page at the following
link:
Once the page is
loaded, press JAWS/INSERT KE+F7, to open the JAWS list links function. tap the
DOWN ARROW, a few times, and the 32 and 64 bit free versions of the software
are there.
I do not know what the
full limitations of the free version is but, I do know that the option to
rebuild the MBR information for a drive, is not restricted because,
I needed to use the function to rebuild the MBR for my system drive a couple
of years ago.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022
6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic
Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Hi,
Annabelle. Unfortunately, it will erase both programs and documents. Your
programs can be installed again, and can probably be easily found on the
Internet. But your data will most certainly need to be backed up before
doing the recovery.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:58
PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar
Settings In Windows 10?
I
wonder if that would erase any of my programs and documents. Good heavens I
hope not!
On
10/02/2022 9:52 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
As
I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her
Windows CD to fix the MBR.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Annabelle
had the rebooting problem before the Jaws problem.
I
think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a
power loss.
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Hi,
Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of
restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall.
You may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may
also need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since
it is impossible to access your BIOS without sighted
assistance.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have
the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine,
otherwise, if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of
restarts. Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed
the reset button by accident when I meant to press the power button
instead?
On
10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit
with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the
problem started happening, I would do so before doing anything else.
This often clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you
may be running.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
That's
strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever
you said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom
profile I made of Eloquence?
On
10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS,
sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten
incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following.
Put
JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory
mode. This can be accomplished in the following way,
1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered
commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user directory
mode
It
will also unload any modifications you have made to the default
settings in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or
with a different voice.
Now
that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode,
open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic
"Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in
this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by
something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem
continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in
its default state.
Now,
to exit Default alternate user directory mode,
1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered
commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user directory mode
off.
If
the problem was absent when Default alternate user
directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS,
if the repair does not work.
Bill
White
billwhite92701@...
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done
this before.
On
10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I
would be led to believe that it is a problem with the current
version of JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I
previously suggested.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
It
doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator.
On
10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows
problem I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as
Narrator or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen
readers? It could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using
the JAWS installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS
repair.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To:
JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject:
Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I'm
having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu"
settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and
Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings".
Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with
screenreaders like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could
access classic parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as
they are more suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm
trying to turn off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I
pause on them", as it drives me mad! If someone could please make
a registry key for me, I would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I have the full version of Minitool Partition Wizard, which has that same function, but when I tried that parameter, nothing changed.
On 10/03/2022 11:19 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hey Annabelle,
Please let the list know if this tool works for your computer problem, that is, the booting problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Bill:
Annabelle may not need to use the Windows recovery disk option.
there is a program called "Disk Genius", which is very accessible with screen readers. In the program, there is a function, which will rebuild the MBR information for her system disk. Once that has been done, Annabelle should hopefully be able to boot her system, using the system disk thus, avoiding the hastle of reinstalling and reconfiguring all her software. the free version of the program can be downloaded from the download page at the following link:
Once the page is loaded, press JAWS/INSERT KE+F7, to open the JAWS list links function. tap the DOWN ARROW, a few times, and the 32 and 64 bit free versions of the software are there.
I do not know what the full limitations of the free version is but, I do know that the option to rebuild the MBR information for a drive, is not restricted because, I needed to use the function to rebuild the MBR for my system drive a couple of years ago.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Hi, Annabelle. Unfortunately, it will erase both programs and documents. Your programs can be installed again, and can probably be easily found on the Internet. But your data will most certainly need to be backed up before doing the recovery.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I wonder if that would erase any of my programs and documents. Good heavens I hope not!
On 10/02/2022 9:52 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
As I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her Windows CD to fix the MBR.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Annabelle had the rebooting problem before the Jaws problem.
I think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a power loss.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Hi, Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is impossible to access your BIOS without sighted assistance.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise, if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts. Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset button by accident when I meant to press the power button instead?
On 10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem started happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be running.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
That's strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile I made of Eloquence?
On 10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS, sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following.
Put JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory mode. This can be accomplished in the following way,
1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands.
2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user directory mode
It will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a different voice.
Now that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode, open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its default state.
Now, to exit Default alternate user directory mode,
1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands.
2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user directory mode off.
If the problem was absent when Default alternate user directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if the repair does not work.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this before.
On 10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would be led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously suggested.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
It doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator.
On 10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS repair.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To: JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I'm having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings". Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with screenreaders like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could access classic parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as they are more suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm trying to turn off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I pause on them", as it drives me mad! If someone could please make a registry key for me, I would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Hey Annabelle,
Please let the list know if this tool works for
your computer problem, that is, the booting problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Bill:
Annabelle may not need to use the Windows recovery
disk option.
there is a program called "Disk Genius", which is
very accessible with screen readers. In the program, there is a function, which
will rebuild the MBR information for her system disk. Once that has been done,
Annabelle should hopefully be able to boot her system, using the system disk
thus, avoiding the hastle of reinstalling and reconfiguring all her software.
the free version of the program can be downloaded from the download page at
the following link:
Once the page is loaded, press JAWS/INSERT KE+F7,
to open the JAWS list links function. tap the DOWN ARROW, a few times, and the
32 and 64 bit free versions of the software are there.
I do not know what the full limitations of the free
version is but, I do know that the option to rebuild the MBR information
for a drive, is not restricted because, I needed to use the function
to rebuild the MBR for my system drive a couple of years ago.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 6:09
AM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar
Settings In Windows 10?
Hi,
Annabelle. Unfortunately, it will erase both programs and documents. Your
programs can be installed again, and can probably be easily found on the
Internet. But your data will most certainly need to be backed up before doing
the recovery.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:58
PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
wonder if that would erase any of my programs and documents. Good heavens I
hope not!
On
10/02/2022 9:52 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
As
I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her
Windows CD to fix the MBR.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Annabelle
had the rebooting problem before the Jaws
problem.
I
think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a power
loss.
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Hi,
Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of
restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You
may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also
need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is
impossible to access your BIOS without sighted
assistance.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have
the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise,
if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts.
Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset
button by accident when I meant to press the power button instead?
On
10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit
with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem
started happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often
clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be
running.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
That's
strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you
said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile
I made of Eloquence?
On
10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS,
sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten
incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following.
Put
JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory
mode. This can be accomplished in the following way,
1. Press
INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered
commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default
alternate user directory mode
It
will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings
in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a
different voice.
Now
that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode,
open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic
"Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in
this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by
something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem
continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its
default state.
Now,
to exit Default alternate user directory
mode,
1. Press
INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered
commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default
alternate user directory mode off.
If
the problem was absent when Default alternate user
directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if
the repair does not work.
Bill
White
billwhite92701@...
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this
before.
On
10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would
be led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of
JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously
suggested.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
It
doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator.
On
10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem
I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator
or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It
could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS
installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS
repair.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To:
JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject:
Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I'm
having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu"
settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and
Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings".
Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with screenreaders
like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could access classic
parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as they are more
suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm trying to turn
off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I pause on them", as it
drives me mad! If someone could please make a registry key for me, I
would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Moderated
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Bill:
Annabelle may not need to use the Windows recovery
disk option.
there is a program called "Disk Genius", which is
very accessible with screen readers. In the program, there is a function, which
will rebuild the MBR information for her system disk. Once that has been done,
Annabelle should hopefully be able to boot her system, using the system disk
thus, avoiding the hastle of reinstalling and reconfiguring all her software.
the free version of the program can be downloaded from the download page at
the following link:
Once the page is loaded, press JAWS/INSERT KE+F7,
to open the JAWS list links function. tap the DOWN ARROW, a few times, and the
32 and 64 bit free versions of the software are there.
I do not know what the full limitations of the free
version is but, I do know that the option to rebuild the MBR information
for a drive, is not restricted because, I needed to use the function
to rebuild the MBR for my system drive a couple of years ago.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 6:09
AM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar
Settings In Windows 10?
Hi,
Annabelle. Unfortunately, it will erase both programs and documents. Your
programs can be installed again, and can probably be easily found on the
Internet. But your data will most certainly need to be backed up before doing
the recovery.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:58
PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
wonder if that would erase any of my programs and documents. Good heavens I
hope not!
On
10/02/2022 9:52 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
As
I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her
Windows CD to fix the MBR.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Annabelle
had the rebooting problem before the Jaws
problem.
I
think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a power
loss.
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Sent:
Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Hi,
Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of
restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You
may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also
need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is
impossible to access your BIOS without sighted
assistance.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have
the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise,
if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts.
Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset
button by accident when I meant to press the power button instead?
On
10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit
with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem
started happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often
clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be
running.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
That's
strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you
said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile
I made of Eloquence?
On
10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS,
sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten
incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following.
Put
JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory
mode. This can be accomplished in the following way,
1. Press
INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered
commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default
alternate user directory mode
It
will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings
in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a
different voice.
Now
that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode,
open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic
"Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in
this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by
something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem
continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its
default state.
Now,
to exit Default alternate user directory
mode,
1. Press
INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered
commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default
alternate user directory mode off.
If
the problem was absent when Default alternate user
directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if
the repair does not work.
Bill
White
billwhite92701@...
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this
before.
On
10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would
be led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of
JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously
suggested.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
It
doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator.
On
10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem
I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator
or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It
could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS
installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS
repair.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To:
JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject:
Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I'm
having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu"
settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and
Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings".
Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with screenreaders
like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could access classic
parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as they are more
suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm trying to turn
off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I pause on them", as it
drives me mad! If someone could please make a registry key for me, I
would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Re: Sources for all kind of jfw scripts
A few years ago, a gentleman named David Feren sorry Siri if I spelled your last name, wrong he had all kinds of Scripps and files on his webpage specifically for Jaws users. Unfortunately. He has decided to discontinue that list. I used in installing mini of his Scripps over the years. David, if you are monitoring this list, I hope you are doing well these days!
Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
On Oct 2, 2022, at 9:17 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 08:26 PM, Leo wrote:
I don’t see this happening unless the Jaws scripting community join forces.
- Agreed. The same has been true in the NVDA community, but it's now in the works, with the Spanish NVDA Community hosting a worldwide add-on repository with the eventual intent of NVAccess taking it over. But being that Vispero has pretty much refused to have anything to do with such an idea, it would have to be, and remain, a community based effort for JAWS scripters and users. --
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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I did say on some websites. I found a few where that didn't work as well, unfortunately.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers Sent: October 3, 2022 10:06 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: problem with Google Chrome That didn't work as nothing shows up on the screen when I use jaws cursor, route Jaws to PC or route PC to Jaws. ----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: problem with Google Chrome Depending on the website, you can work around this temporarily by using the JAWS cursor to click on the thing you can't click on the usual way. I was able to do this, for example, on Reddit just now. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: October 2, 2022 8:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: problem with Google Chrome Actually there is a way to prevent auto updating. I know because I did it to Edge. I'll look up how I did it and post it here. Gene... On 10/2/2022 7:08 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 06:45 PM, Nicholas Stevens (Mweb) wrote:
Is there a way to prevent google Chrome from updating?
-
No. And I don't say this in a snarky way, but we're now in the age of
virtually every piece of software in "as a service" mode, where
automatic updating is the norm, and it's not going away.
Yes, this poses occasional issues, I won't deny, but in the case of
web browsers you (the generic you) should have basic skills with at
least two, preferably three, as there have been occasions for as long
as I've been working in the screen reader world where a given screen
reader and a given browser (or website in a given browser) just do not
play well together.
There are times when you're going to have to punt to your second
choice. It's a fact of cyberlife in the 21st century.
That's why having basic skill with an alternate screen reader is
essential, too, as sometimes it's necessary to use an alternative in a
pinch.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA- Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*/Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be
happy./*
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/
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That didn't work as nothing shows up on the screen when I use jaws cursor, route Jaws to PC or route PC to Jaws. ----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: problem with Google Chrome Depending on the website, you can work around this temporarily by using the JAWS cursor to click on the thing you can't click on the usual way. I was able to do this, for example, on Reddit just now. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: October 2, 2022 8:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: problem with Google Chrome Actually there is a way to prevent auto updating. I know because I did it to Edge. I'll look up how I did it and post it here. Gene... On 10/2/2022 7:08 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 06:45 PM, Nicholas Stevens (Mweb) wrote:
Is there a way to prevent google Chrome from updating?
-
No. And I don't say this in a snarky way, but we're now in the age of
virtually every piece of software in "as a service" mode, where
automatic updating is the norm, and it's not going away.
Yes, this poses occasional issues, I won't deny, but in the case of
web browsers you (the generic you) should have basic skills with at
least two, preferably three, as there have been occasions for as long
as I've been working in the screen reader world where a given screen
reader and a given browser (or website in a given browser) just do not
play well together.
There are times when you're going to have to punt to your second
choice. It's a fact of cyberlife in the 21st century.
That's why having basic skill with an alternate screen reader is
essential, too, as sometimes it's necessary to use an alternative in a
pinch.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA- Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*/Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be
happy./*
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/
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Re: Question on how too update our google chrome browsers.
Hi. Chrome will automatically update itself, but if you’d like to check if chrome is up-to-date, here’s how you do it. - Press alt+f to get to the file menu, then arrow down to help submenu.
- Press enter on this submenu then press enter on about.
Chrome will check for upadtes. Unfortunately you’ll have to use the virtual pc cursor to see if chrome is up to date or not so make sure when you get to the about window, make sure the virtual cursor is on and if it’s not, press insert+z to turn it on.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Question on how too update our google chrome browsers. Good evening everyone, What are the steps for doing an update of Google chrome? It seems that on both on both mine, and my girlfriends computer, after I try and do a search we both receive a thing that says, alt left arrow too go back, and and right arrow too go forward. If I try using the H key too go from heading, too heading, it won’t advance too the next heading, or a shift H key won’t go back too a previous heading. I have too hit the escape key, which will turn off the virtual cursor. Is this something new that google chrome has implemented?
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Re: JAWS2022 switching between Vocalizer expressive voices when writing in Spanish Microsoft Word
Hello,
What version of Jaws are you using? Have you tried this with the latest 2023 public beta that is out? What is the vocalizer voice in question?
Thanks.
Jay
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2022 switching between Vocalizer expressive voices when writing in Spanish Microsoft Word
Hello all,
When working with JAWS2022 trying to write in Spanish I notice that when writing a dot 6 to capitalize JAWS will announce the dot 6 using the English Vocalizer expressive voice. Also, when I write a letter such as an a or o JAWS will also announce this in English. When reading the Spanish using arrow keys, JAWS will then pronounce all items using the Voicalizer Spanish voice.
How do I have JAWS solely pronounce everything in the Spanish Vocalizer voice? The odd item here is that the keyboard voice for JAWS is set to the Spanish voice when using Vocalizer.
I have a student who I am trying to have write in Spanish for class so I'd like to resolve this in a quick manner.
Thank you in advance for any responses
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Shai Wolman
Wolman Assistive
(619)894-6587
An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults!
To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at wolmanassistive.com
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Hi,
In his message, Gene clearly stated that you need to know what you're doing if you want the Chrome updates to stop and you need to be aware of it or note it down for future reference.
If anyone wants to use that workaround to keep a version of Chrome that works with JAWS until a later update fixes the underlying issue, then that's their choice and responsibility.
Anyone who is not tech-savvy enough won't even dream of touching the registry or disabling services, unless they are given precise directions and assured that that won't harm their system otherwise.
Also, not everyone wants to deal with 2 or 3 screen readers on their system, even though I agree they provide for a great toolbox if anything does not work correctly with the defaults you're used to.
Understand that there are a lot of people, even to this day, who believe that a PC is a necessity rather than a great resource, sohave the fear of breaking things or learning new screen reader commands.
They may be merely interchangeable concepts to you, but some people just memorise sequences rather than concepts, and understanding that is important.
The fact that Gene and you are taking this to a personal level, and gene sees criticism and attacks whenever he reads a post from you, is a different story and is something you both need to figure out or live with, ignore, whatever.
That pattern can be exhausting and begs for the delete key.
Regards,
Nermin
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Re: Automatically Switching Voice Profiles Based On Application/Website
#jaws
I do not believe this is possible, as far as I can tell the profile in
use is based on the currently focused program.
It is possible to have scripts and even normal jaws configuration on a
per-site basis but as far as I can tell the voice profile is not part
of that.
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On 10/2/22, Noah Carver <noahcarver494@...> wrote: Hello Members,
I am currently taking an Italian course as part of my major's requirements
and have found the voices provided by Vocalizer are much better than
Eloquence. Because of this, I find myself switching language profiles quite
often. If possible, I would like to configure JAWS to automatically switch
voice profiles when visiting the website used to complete Italian homework
so that at least this task can be automated. I can configure other settings
through the Settings Center on a per-application or per-website basis and
seem to recall JAWS users who configured different voice profiles for
different applications, so I am hoping this is indeed possible both for
applications and websites. If this is indeed doable, please advise on how I
might go about it.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Noah
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Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Hi, Annabelle. Unfortunately, it will erase both programs and documents. Your programs can be installed again, and can probably be easily found on the Internet. But your data will most certainly need to be backed up before doing the recovery.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? I wonder if that would erase any of my programs and documents. Good heavens I hope not! On 10/02/2022 9:52 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: As I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her Windows CD to fix the MBR. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? Annabelle had the rebooting problem before the Jaws problem. I think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a power loss. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? Hi, Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is impossible to access your BIOS without sighted assistance. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? I did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise, if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts. Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset button by accident when I meant to press the power button instead? On 10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem started happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be running. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? That's strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile I made of Eloquence? On 10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi, Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS, sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following. Put JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory mode. This can be accomplished in the following way, 1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands. 2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say, Default alternate user directory mode It will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a different voice. Now that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode, open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its default state. Now, to exit Default alternate user directory mode, 1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands. 2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say, Default alternate user directory mode off. If the problem was absent when Default alternate user directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if the repair does not work. Bill White billwhite92701@... From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? I wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this before. On 10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would be led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously suggested. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? It doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator. On 10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi, Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS repair. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To: JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? I'm having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings". Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with screenreaders like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could access classic parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as they are more suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm trying to turn off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I pause on them", as it drives me mad! If someone could please make a registry key for me, I would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I wonder if that would erase any of my programs and documents. Good heavens I hope not!
On 10/02/2022 9:52 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
As I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her Windows CD to fix the MBR.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Annabelle had the rebooting problem before the Jaws problem.
I think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a power loss.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Hi, Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is impossible to access your BIOS without sighted assistance.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise, if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts. Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset button by accident when I meant to press the power button instead?
On 10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem started happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be running.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
That's strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile I made of Eloquence?
On 10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS, sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following.
Put JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory mode. This can be accomplished in the following way,
1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands.
2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user directory mode
It will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a different voice.
Now that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode, open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its default state.
Now, to exit Default alternate user directory mode,
1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands.
2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user directory mode off.
If the problem was absent when Default alternate user directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if the repair does not work.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this before.
On 10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would be led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously suggested.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
It doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator.
On 10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS repair.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To: JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
I'm having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings". Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with screenreaders like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could access classic parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as they are more suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm trying to turn off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I pause on them", as it drives me mad! If someone could please make a registry key for me, I would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
As I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her Windows CD to fix the MBR.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? Annabelle had the rebooting problem before the Jaws problem. I think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a power loss. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? Hi, Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is impossible to access your BIOS without sighted assistance. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? I did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise, if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts. Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset button by accident when I meant to press the power button instead? On 10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem started happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be running. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? That's strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile I made of Eloquence? On 10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi, Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS, sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following. Put JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory mode. This can be accomplished in the following way, 1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands. 2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say, Default alternate user directory mode It will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a different voice. Now that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode, open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its default state. Now, to exit Default alternate user directory mode, 1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands. 2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say, Default alternate user directory mode off. If the problem was absent when Default alternate user directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if the repair does not work. Bill White billwhite92701@... From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? I wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this before. On 10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would be led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously suggested. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? It doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator. On 10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote: Hi, Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS repair. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To: JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10? I'm having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings". Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with screenreaders like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could access classic parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as they are more suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm trying to turn off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I pause on them", as it drives me mad! If someone could please make a registry key for me, I would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?
Hi Bill,
Annabelle had the rebooting problem before the Jaws
problem.
I think her computer's MBR is messed up from an
improper shutdown from a power loss.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
Hi,
Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of
restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You may
need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also need to
take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is impossible
to access your BIOS without sighted assistance.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent: Sunday, October
2, 2022 8:13 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have the
Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise, if I
don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts. Could it be
something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset button by accident
when I meant to press the power button instead?
On
10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit with
me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem started
happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often clears up
problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be
running.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
That's
strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you
said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile I
made of Eloquence?
On
10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS,
sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten
incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following.
Put
JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory mode.
This can be accomplished in the following way,
1. Press INSERT plus
SPACE to enter layered commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user
directory mode
It
will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings in
JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a different
voice.
Now
that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode, open
one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic
"Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in this
mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by something
that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem continues in this
mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its default
state.
Now,
to exit Default alternate user directory mode,
1. Press INSERT plus
SPACE to enter layered commands.
2.
Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,
Default alternate user
directory mode off.
If
the problem was absent when Default alternate user directory
mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if the repair
does not work.
Bill
White
billwhite92701@...
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I
wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this
before.
On
10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi
again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would be
led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of JAWS, or
that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously
suggested.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
It
doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator.
On
10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi,
Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem
I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator or
NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It could be
a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS installer for your
current version of JAWS to do a JAWS
repair.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent:
Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To:
JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject:
Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows
10?
I'm
having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" settings
in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and Start Menu", I'm
taken to the new version made in "Settings". Unfortunately that version
is not easy to access with screenreaders like JAWS. I wish there was a
way that I could access classic parameters made for earlier versions of
Windows, as they are more suitable for the sight challenged.
Specifically I'm trying to turn off the parameter to "Click on submenus
when I pause on them", as it drives me mad! If someone could please make
a registry key for me, I would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!
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I do have a problem with it, as this post is looking for an argument and I’m not having it. I’ll be reviewing your posts before they go public. Mister Warner can join you if he’d like by responding to this. I’m done playing. James, List Admin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 2, 2022 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Gene Warner This was meant to be private. But I have no problem with the membership having seen exactly what I said. I apologize for not having double checked that I had hit the Private button before the send button.
-- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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This was meant to be private. But I have no problem with the membership having seen exactly what I said. I apologize for not having double checked that I had hit the Private button before the send button. --
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 11:37 PM, James Homuth wrote:
If there is an issue, take it to me privately.
- The only issue I have is that Mr. Warner seems to believe that he is never to be challenged or questioned in any way. And he whines any time he is challenged. For the most part, I do my best to ignore him. There are times, however, where I do not find that warranted, and this was one of them. I have never said to him things I have not said to others when they give what I feel is questionable advice. And when I'm called out with whining complaints, I will respond to those, which I have. You'll notice that the things he comes back at me about all start out as substantive objections or reservations about his advice. The same cannot be said of him. If you'd prefer I leave the group, as I said, I will do so. But I'm not going to put up with what Mr. Warner believes he should be able to dish out without any comment whatsoever at any time. --
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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