This deserves some clarification. Yes, alt-F4 can close down a website. More specifically, it closes individual windows. Sometimes the effect is to close a program or app, such as a browser. Sometimes it just closes a document, as is the case with MS Word, although if only one Word document is open, it will also close Word.
What Gene is referring to here is the effect pressing alt-F4 has when focus is on the desktop. In this case, it presents the user with the option to shut down the computer.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The purpose of screen reader instruction:
I thought alt f4 is to remove the website
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From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 6:12 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: The purpose of screen reader instruction:

The easiest way I've found to shutdown Windows is to just do an Alt+F4
from the desktop. You get a dialog that asks what you want Windows to
do and the default is to shut down so just hit Enter.

Gene...


On 8/8/2022 5:45 AM, Angel wrote:

I apologize for sending that last message without a subject. It
shan’t happen again. Here it is: In case my last message was
ignored, again I apologize for my carelessness.

We forget, computer instructors teaching the blind are mainly
working, not on the behalf of the student; as the blind student is
not the one who pays his salary. Rather, he works for an agency.
Which is employed by either personal employers or federal or state
government agencies. So, instructors are obliged to teach whatever it is those agencies require.
When I received my first computer in 98, I was taught only that which
pertained to the job for which my computer and adaptive software was
purchased; which had nothing at all to do with the internet, for example.
So, I wasn’t taught to use the primitive internet extant. Individual
needs and preferences change and grow over time; along with
individual computer requirements. Which is why, I agree with mister
Warner. Given the limited time allotted for training it would be
difficult to teach, both, what employment requires and what
recreational things the student would like to learn. This is why many of us teach ourselves much of what
it is we prefer in a recreational sense. I have a dual challenge. One
of which limits the use of one of my hands. Two screen readers were
taught by my local agency for the blind, Window-eyes and Jaws. I had
no idea concerning the use of either screen reader. It was left to
the expertise of my instructor to decide for me the screen reader
which would serve my particular needs, and which would best
accommodate my secondary challenge. Because, I was ignorant. I,
however, was given a choice whether or not to have, installed on my
computer, Jaws for dos. I chose not to have that screen reader
installed. I later regretted that decision. I wish it had been made
for me, and I had learned to use that screen reader. I would have
been much wiser, today about the use of command prompts. By the way:
How does one put on the desktop a shortcut for restarting the
computer? Knowing more about command prompts would allow me to
understand how this might be accomplished; without having to ask you
fine people such a question. But, using such a desktop shortcut
might come in handy on occasion. There is always time for us to learn what it is we prefer on our own.

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The easiest way I've found to shutdown Windows is to just do an Alt+F4
from the desktop. You get a dialog that asks what you want Windows to
do and the default is to shut down so just hit Enter.

Gene...


On 8/8/2022 5:45 AM, Angel wrote:

I apologize for sending that last message without a subject. It
shan’t happen again. Here it is: In case my last message was
ignored, again I apologize for my carelessness.

We forget, computer instructors teaching the blind are mainly
working, not on the behalf of the student; as the blind student is
not the one who pays his salary. Rather, he works for an agency.
Which is employed by either personal employers or federal or state
government agencies. So, instructors are obliged to teach whatever it is those agencies require.
When I received my first computer in 98, I was taught only that which
pertained to the job for which my computer and adaptive software was
purchased; which had nothing at all to do with the internet, for example.
So, I wasn’t taught to use the primitive internet extant. Individual
needs and preferences change and grow over time; along with
individual computer requirements. Which is why, I agree with mister
Warner. Given the limited time allotted for training it would be
difficult to teach, both, what employment requires and what
recreational things the student would like to learn. This is why many of us teach ourselves much of what
it is we prefer in a recreational sense. I have a dual challenge. One
of which limits the use of one of my hands. Two screen readers were
taught by my local agency for the blind, Window-eyes and Jaws. I had
no idea concerning the use of either screen reader. It was left to
the expertise of my instructor to decide for me the screen reader
which would serve my particular needs, and which would best
accommodate my secondary challenge. Because, I was ignorant. I,
however, was given a choice whether or not to have, installed on my
computer, Jaws for dos. I chose not to have that screen reader
installed. I later regretted that decision. I wish it had been made
for me, and I had learned to use that screen reader. I would have
been much wiser, today about the use of command prompts. By the way:
How does one put on the desktop a shortcut for restarting the
computer? Knowing more about command prompts would allow me to
understand how this might be accomplished; without having to ask you
fine people such a question. But, using such a desktop shortcut
might come in handy on occasion. There is always time for us to learn what it is we prefer on our own.

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Presuming we're talking Windows 10 or 11, Windows Key + Period will do it.  There's also a second alternative which I've forgotten since I don't use it.

Typically, after I hit the above shortcut, I immediate begin typing the name of the emoji I'm hunting, or part of the name.  It makes reviewing the results a far less tedious experience.
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Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall

The easiest way I've found to shutdown Windows is to just do an Alt+F4
from the desktop. You get a dialog that asks what you want Windows to
do and the default is to shut down so just hit Enter.

Gene...


On 8/8/2022 5:45 AM, Angel wrote:

I apologize for sending that last message without a subject. It
shan’t happen again. Here it is: In case my last message was
ignored, again I apologize for my carelessness.

We forget, computer instructors teaching the blind are mainly
working, not on the behalf of the student; as the blind student is
not the one who pays his salary. Rather, he works for an agency.
Which is employed by either personal employers or federal or state
government agencies. So, instructors are obliged to teach whatever it is those agencies require.
When I received my first computer in 98, I was taught only that which
pertained to the job for which my computer and adaptive software was
purchased; which had nothing at all to do with the internet, for example.
So, I wasn’t taught to use the primitive internet extant. Individual
needs and preferences change and grow over time; along with
individual computer requirements. Which is why, I agree with mister
Warner. Given the limited time allotted for training it would be
difficult to teach, both, what employment requires and what
recreational things the student would like to learn. This is why many of us teach ourselves much of what
it is we prefer in a recreational sense. I have a dual challenge. One
of which limits the use of one of my hands. Two screen readers were
taught by my local agency for the blind, Window-eyes and Jaws. I had
no idea concerning the use of either screen reader. It was left to
the expertise of my instructor to decide for me the screen reader
which would serve my particular needs, and which would best
accommodate my secondary challenge. Because, I was ignorant. I,
however, was given a choice whether or not to have, installed on my
computer, Jaws for dos. I chose not to have that screen reader
installed. I later regretted that decision. I wish it had been made
for me, and I had learned to use that screen reader. I would have
been much wiser, today about the use of command prompts. By the way:
How does one put on the desktop a shortcut for restarting the
computer? Knowing more about command prompts would allow me to
understand how this might be accomplished; without having to ask you
fine people such a question. But, using such a desktop shortcut
might come in handy on occasion. There is always time for us to learn what it is we prefer on our own.

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 04:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
So here's what folks should do when starting a thread,
What is the question you would ask to get the answer you are looking
for?
And part of that question would make a good subject, and you can
elaborate on your question in the message body.
I'm not trying to be condescending, just help folks make better
contributions to the list.
-
And you're not being condescending, you're being helpful.
I'm not moderator here, but am elsewhere, and one of the things we (not just me) insist upon is descriptive topic titles.  And I hasten to add that this is very, very far from "the worst offender."  Getting topics like, "Help!," is absolutely not helpful, and many members will just delete such because it gives them absolutely no idea whatsoever what's being asked about.
This topic title at least narrowed the class of question.  But you are absolutely correct that a title like, "What's the Keyboard Shortcut for the Emoji keyboard?," or, "Emoji Keyboard Shortcut," zeroes in on precisely what information is about to be asked about.
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*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*     ~ Lauren Bacall

For some reason I’m unable to recall the key stroke for bringing up the list of emojis.  Could someone please refresh my memory? 

Ms. Kirtley

That doesn't work either, at least in Windows 10 it doesn't.

Gene...

On 8/8/2022 1:54 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Try up-arrow after pressing the Windows key.  Then, maybe, a left or right.

On 8/8/2022 10:36 AM, Gene Warner wrote:

The last version of Windows that had shutdown on the start menu was Window 7, pressing the windows key in Windows 10 gets you the search box.

Gene...

On 8/8/2022 11:30 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Strangely, alt + F4 only works for me when I'm actually focused on the
desktop, even with all other things closed out, alt + F4 does nothing here
until I do windows M, then I can alt F4 to close windows.
So sometimes I just tap the windows key and left arrow to shutdown and
enter.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Creating a Desktop Shortcut to Restart Your Computer


Alt+F4 is what I do, for one thing you don't have to first locate the
shortcut to use it so it's much quicker.

Gene...

On 8/8/2022 11:14 AM, Curtis Chong wrote:

Greetings:

This information is very much appreciated. However, I have to wonder if
it wouldn’t be easier, since you’re going to the Desktop anyway, simply
to press Alt F4 and then select the Press Enter (since Shutdown is the
default choice here).

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2022 9:14 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Creating a Desktop Shortcut to Restart Your Computer

1. Go to the desktop and make certain no item has focus. Then bring up
the context menu, whether by SHIFT+F10 or the Applications/Context Menu
key, and select New, Shortcut from that menu.

2. In the Create Shortcut dialog that comes up, in the "Type the
location of the item" edit box, enter: C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe
/s /r /t 5

then activate the Next button.

3. In the Type a name for this shortcut edit box, enter the name of your
choosing. I tend to just call it something like "Restart in 5 seconds."

4. Activate the Finish button, which will place the shortcut using the
name you choose on your desktop.


If you were to want that restart to begin immediately, with no option to
cancel, then change that 5 to a zero. That, or get rid of the "/t 5"
entirely and substitute it with "/l".

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Brian *-*Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.**
* ~ Lauren Bacall

I already have a shutdown shortcut on my desk top.  I believe it is a windows prompt command, though, I am not sure.  It is:

%windir%\System32\shutdown.exe /s /f /t 0

Start in

%windir%\System32

I don’t know where I got this shortcut.  I created a shortcut key for it, and whenever I lack speech, I can invoke this shut down key, and the machine shuts down completely.  I should like to create another shortcut on the desktop for a restart command.  For which I may create a shortcut key. 

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On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 02:16 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
The fastest way I know of besides the Alt+F4 from the desktop is
Windows+X,U then pick your poison.
-
Let me be clear, you're absolutely right about either of these two being the quickest methods.
What I wondered is if there is a quicker way to immediately throw focus directly to the Power button in the Start menu.  I don't know of any other than what I gave, and that is, by anyone's estimation, not fast at all compared to the options you've mentioned.
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*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*     ~ Lauren Bacall