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Karen Reynolds

Thanks. This helps.

Karen

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 4:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

Actually, you can have as many permanent ones as you like. To add a second, or a third, etc., reopen the dialog and tab to “Add.” Press the spacebar, then tab through your options. Just keep in mind that if you have a lot on one document, you might defeat the convenience of placemarkers.

--

My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

So it is better to make a permanent one and when I want one further down, delete the first one somehow and make another permanent one?

Karen

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

Hi Karen,

You need to make them permanent using the steps outlined by Adrian. You can only have one temporary place marker at a time, so are not very useful just by themselves.

David

Re: pdf and bookmarks

Adrian Spratt

#98935

Actually, you can have as many permanent ones as you like. To add a second, or a third, etc., reopen the dialog and tab to “Add.” Press the spacebar, then tab through your options. Just keep in mind that if you have a lot on one document, you might defeat the convenience of placemarkers.

--

My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

So it is better to make a permanent one and when I want one further down, delete the first one somehow and make another permanent one?

Karen

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

Hi Karen,

You need to make them permanent using the steps outlined by Adrian. You can only have one temporary place marker at a time, so are not very useful just by themselves.

David

jaws scripts for audacity?

Josh Kennedy

#98934

hi

Are there jaws scripts for the latest audacity sound editor program? If so where can I get them from?
I will have to use the latest version of audacity to convert some old casette tapes in a week or so with a USB tape player. Any jaws scripts that will enhance the use of audacity will be useful.

thanks,

Josh

Re: pdf and bookmarks

Karen Reynolds

#98932

So it is better to make a permanent one and when I want one further down, delete the first one somehow and make another permanent one?

Karen

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

Hi Karen,

You need to make them permanent using the steps outlined by Adrian. You can only have one temporary place marker at a time, so are not very useful just by themselves.

David

Re: What is the new keyboard layout

Bill White

#98931

Hi, Loy.

The Kinesis line of ergonomic computer keyboards is an alternative to the traditional keyboard design. Most widely known among these are the contoured Advantage line, which feature recessed keys in two bucket-like hollows which allow the fingers to reach keys with less effort as well as a central array of modifiers such as enter, alt, backspace, control, etc. where they can be pressed with the thumbs. All Kinesis keyboards (except the Essential) support the capability to re-map individual keys. Recent models also come with the ability to switch between the Dvorak layout with the press of a special key combination, though keycaps printed with dual-legend QWERTY/Dvorak letters are included only on specific models. Moreover, the keys are laid out in perfect vertical rows to avoid the need for lateral movements during typing.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What is the new keyboard layout

There is a new keyboard layout listed in the keyboard layout selection box. What is it? I don't know how to spell it, but it sounds like kenisisst.

Re: What is the new keyboard layout

Gene Warner

#98930

					I'm don't know what it is either but for every one else it is the 3rd option and is spelled Kinesis.

Power tip:
If you hear JAWS say a word and you aren't sure what it is, use the speech history feature (insert+space>H), then scroll around until you find the line with the word in question, you can then use control+arrows and the arrow keys to go to and listen to the word letter by letter.

Gene...

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							On 7/14/2022 2:11 PM, Loy wrote:
There is a new keyboard layout listed in the keyboard layout selection box. What is it? I don't know how to spell it, but it sounds like kenisisst.

Re: pdf and bookmarks

Adrian Spratt

#98929

I believe a temporary placemarker survives only so long as the document stays open. So when you wish to return to your place after closing a document, work with the dialog that comes up when you press control-Windows key-k. Tab once and you’ll get add. Then tab through the options. To remove a placemarker, reopen that dialog, tab once, then arrow down to delete, and once again tab through your options.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

So if I wanted to use it to mark my place temporarily, close the pdf, a day or so later come back to it. I could use the temporary one? And how do I get rid of them when I don’t need them?

Karen

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

Karen,

I just tried JAWS’s traditional placemarker setting in a PDF file, and they worked. For example, at the point where you want a temporary bookmark/placemarker, press control-Windows key-k. When you wish to return to that spot, press k, and you’ll be taken right there.

For permanent placemarker settings, press control-shift-k. After that, use your arrow and tab keys to view your choices.

--

My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: pdf and bookmarks

Hi,

Does anyone know how to insert a bookmark into a pdf? Then go back to it later?

Karen

What is the new keyboard layout

Loy

#98928

There is a new keyboard layout listed in the keyboard layout selection box. What is it? I don't know how to spell it, but it sounds like kenisisst.

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Bill White

#98927

					Hi, Gene. How do you install JAWS with all services disabled?

Thank you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

If you are referring to Sharky, in the settings center there is a 
setting to disable Sharky.

Until I started installing JAWS with all external services disabled, it 
was one of the first things I would do.

Gene...

On 7/14/2022 7:51 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
Hello,

I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was
nowhere near the keyboard.

I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but there
are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, but I
don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?

Thanks,
Kim

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Bill White

#98926

					Hi, Dan. The intrusiveness occurs if one is trying to record something else and Voice Assistant keeps intruding into the recording. That is intrusive.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

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							-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Not sure how it is intrusive as JAWS indicates that your microphone is being used.  Since many use laptops , tablets and even desktops with microphones default is good to be on although I agree it may be annoying if not needed.
Dan 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Thanks, I appreciate the info. I feel like this "assistant" should be turned off by default. It's intrusive.

Thanks again

On 7/14/22, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
the microphone is waiting for commands to sharky.  To turn it off, On 
the JAWS screen, press alt-u for utilities.  The first thing there is 
"voice assistant submenu".
Open the submenu and activate settings dot-dot-dot.
There is an item that says "enable voice assistant", checked."  Uncheck it.

This will disable sharky's responding to the spoken command "hey 
sharky", but you can still use it with alt-insert-space.
At 06:51 AM 7/14/2022, you wrote:
Hello,

I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific 
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much 
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was 
nowhere near the keyboard.

I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but there 
are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, but I 
don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly

--
Kimberly

Re: pdf and bookmarks

David Kingsbury

#98925

Hi Karen,

You need to make them permanent using the steps outlined by Adrian. You can only have one temporary place marker at a time, so are not very useful just by themselves.

David

Re: jaws says zero in front of all my messages in thunderbird

Brian Vogel

#98924

By the way, Version 102 is not yet a production release. It is a beta that is not being pushed out over the release channel and the release notes page for version 102 notes that it is not yet part of the release channel.

Most of the time, when this sort of software is installed to replace what you already have (and for most of us that would be version 91 dot something) you will lose the customizations you've made, or some of them, which is what could account for the reappearance of the previously fixed announcement of zero.

If there's not something you simply must have in Version 102 then please wait until it is offered via the release channel and built-in update feature of Thunderbird. Those kinds of updates are generally very careful to retain all previous user settings choices as part of the upgrade (though sometimes, even then, certain things get switched back to what the Thunderbird developers want as initial defaults).
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall

Re: jaws says zero in front of all my messages in thunderbird

Brian Vogel

#98923

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 03:44 PM, dennis wrote:

do you know how you fixed it?

-
I seem to recall that this has something to do with one of the columns (maybe the "message read" marker) that Thunderbird displays ahead of the From field.

The solution was to turn off the display of the offending column or to move its position to the very rightmost end of the columns actually displayed. You'll have to play with turning the couple of columns that show up on the left, and there should only be a few of those, prior to From (or, possibly, Subject if you've rearranged things to have that shown before who the message is from), to see what silences the zero.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Bill White

#98922

					Hi, Kimber. Some people may only have the use of one hand. If this is the case, it may be difficult for them to use some of the awkward key combinations that some of the commands like,
Virtualize the screen, ALT plus JAWS Key plus W 
use. This makes it "handy" no pun intended, for them to use Voice Assistant to invoke some of these commands. I do agree with you, though, that Voice Assistant should be turned off by default. It can interfere with other uses of the microphone, such as when using Zoom.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...
				

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							-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Thanks, that’s good to know. I’m curious why an app like Jaws needs a voice assistant at all.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

﻿If you are referring to Sharky, in the settings center there is a setting to disable Sharky.

Until I started installing JAWS with all external services disabled, it was one of the first things I would do.

Gene...

On 7/14/2022 7:51 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
Hello,
I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was
nowhere near the keyboard.
I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but there
are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, but I
don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?
Thanks,
Kim

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Dan Longmore

#98921

					Not sure how it is intrusive as JAWS indicates that your microphone is being used.  Since many use laptops , tablets and even desktops with microphones default is good to be on although I agree it may be annoying if not needed.
Dan
				

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							-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Thanks, I appreciate the info. I feel like this "assistant" should be turned off by default. It's intrusive.

Thanks again

On 7/14/22, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
the microphone is waiting for commands to sharky.  To turn it off, On 
the JAWS screen, press alt-u for utilities.  The first thing there is 
"voice assistant submenu".
Open the submenu and activate settings dot-dot-dot.
There is an item that says "enable voice assistant", checked."  Uncheck it.

This will disable sharky's responding to the spoken command "hey 
sharky", but you can still use it with alt-insert-space.
At 06:51 AM 7/14/2022, you wrote:
Hello,

I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific 
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much 
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was 
nowhere near the keyboard.

I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but there 
are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, but I 
don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly

--
Kimberly

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Dan Longmore

#98920

					Voice assist is very common.  Keeps JAWS current and also is a nice feature for some tasks being hands free or even quicker.  Especially good for those who have medical or other issues that hinder typing.

Dan

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							-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Thanks, that’s good to know. I’m curious why an app like Jaws needs a voice assistant at all.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

﻿If you are referring to Sharky, in the settings center there is a setting to disable Sharky.

Until I started installing JAWS with all external services disabled, it was one of the first things I would do.

Gene...

On 7/14/2022 7:51 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
Hello,
I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific 
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much 
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was 
nowhere near the keyboard.
I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but 
there are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, 
but I don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?
Thanks,
Kim

Re: pdf and bookmarks

Karen Reynolds

#98919

So if I wanted to use it to mark my place temporarily, close the pdf, a day or so later come back to it. I could use the temporary one? And how do I get rid of them when I don’t need them?

Karen

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pdf and bookmarks

Karen,

I just tried JAWS’s traditional placemarker setting in a PDF file, and they worked. For example, at the point where you want a temporary bookmark/placemarker, press control-Windows key-k. When you wish to return to that spot, press k, and you’ll be taken right there.

For permanent placemarker settings, press control-shift-k. After that, use your arrow and tab keys to view your choices.

--

My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: pdf and bookmarks

Hi,

Does anyone know how to insert a bookmark into a pdf? Then go back to it later?

Karen

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Kimber Gardner

#98918

					Thanks, that’s good to know. I’m curious why an app like Jaws needs a voice assistant at all.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

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							On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:

﻿If you are referring to Sharky, in the settings center there is a setting to disable Sharky.

Until I started installing JAWS with all external services disabled, it was one of the first things I would do.

Gene...


On 7/14/2022 7:51 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
Hello,
I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was
nowhere near the keyboard.
I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but there
are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, but I
don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?
Thanks,
Kim



						

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Gene Warner

#98917

					If you are referring to Sharky, in the settings center there is a setting to disable Sharky.

Until I started installing JAWS with all external services disabled, it was one of the first things I would do.

Gene...

Show quoted text

							On 7/14/2022 7:51 AM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
Hello,
I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was
nowhere near the keyboard.
I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but there
are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, but I
don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?
Thanks,
Kim

						

Re: FS voice assist has access to my microphone and I don't want that

Kimber Gardner

#98916

					Thanks, I appreciate the info. I feel like this "assistant" should be
turned off by default. It's intrusive.

Thanks again
				

Show quoted text

							On 7/14/22, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
the microphone is waiting for commands to sharky.  To turn it off,
On the JAWS screen, press alt-u for utilities.  The first thing there
is "voice assistant submenu".
Open the submenu and activate settings dot-dot-dot.
There is an item that says "enable voice assistant", checked."  Uncheck it.

This will disable sharky's responding to the spoken command "hey
sharky", but you can still use it with alt-insert-space.
At 06:51 AM 7/14/2022, you wrote:
Hello,

I recently started seeing a message that says the freedom scientific
voice assistant has access to my microphone. I didn't think too much
of it until my laptop responded randomly to ambient sound when I was
nowhere near the keyboard.

I can see in settings how to turn off all access to the mic, but there
are some apps I want to have access. Jaws is not one of them, but I
don't see a checkbox to disable it. Can someone help?

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly








						

						-- 
Kimberly
					