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Audacity on Windows 10 creators update

David Bailes
 

Up until very recently, running Audacity and Jaws on the Windows 10 creators update could cause Audacity to crash. However, the good news is that this has be fixed in the latest version of Jaws, version 18.0.4321.
 
David.


Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I'm glad to be rid of Sage 50, I got rid of it last year and now use Quickbooks Online. The apps for Android and iOS are good, as well as the web site.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 27 September 2017 17:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Can you give specific reasons?
I think your decision also needs to take into account the applications you use. I like Windows 10 a lot, but in my business for example I use Sage 50 as my accounting software and in Windows 7 I can use the Jaws cursor to look at certain information on the screen and, if need be, there are a few examples where I have to click on something which is only possible with the Jaws cursor.
I tried using Sage 50 with Windows 10 and as in many other situations, the Jaws cursor reads absolutely nothing. I can get to some of the information I need with the touch cursor, but I can't get to some other items so at this point this alone means that I would at least need one machine with Windows 7 so I can still run Sage 50 on that.
The Jaws cursor in Windows 10 is certainly a lot less useful so if you have applications where you need it then I would say it might be better to stick with Windows 7 for now.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

it is fifty-fifty, i honestly would stay with widnows 7, if you can.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Wolk
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Hi all,

My work place is in the process of upgrading from windows 7 to Windows 10. I recall many of my Jaws-user friends had difficulties with various acccessibility losses when Windows 10 came out. I can ask my work to keep my machine running windows 7. What have peoples'
experiences been with Windows 10? Will upgrading likely cuse problems for me, or have most of the wrinkles been ironed out by this point?

Laura


Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Steve Nutt
 

Why?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: 27 September 2017 15:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

it is fifty-fifty, i honestly would stay with widnows 7, if you can.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Wolk
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Hi all,

My work place is in the process of upgrading from windows 7 to Windows 10. I recall many of my Jaws-user friends had difficulties with various acccessibility losses when Windows 10 came out. I can ask my work to keep my machine running windows 7. What have peoples'
experiences been with Windows 10? Will upgrading likely cuse problems for me, or have most of the wrinkles been ironed out by this point?

Laura


Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

For me, Windows 10 is better than Windows 7, and JAWS seems to be working well with it.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk
Sent: 26 September 2017 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Hi all,

My work place is in the process of upgrading from windows 7 to Windows 10. I recall many of my Jaws-user friends had difficulties with various acccessibility losses when Windows 10 came out. I can ask my work to keep my machine running windows 7. What have peoples'
experiences been with Windows 10? Will upgrading likely cuse problems for me, or have most of the wrinkles been ironed out by this point?

Laura


Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Jonas Voll
 

I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
I will recommend you turn on your Jaws help and play with this!


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

I think its alt-shift and down/up/lwft/right arrow keys. It goes by 2 pixels by default if I remember correctly.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:47 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.
My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain
letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to
click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any help.

Carol






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Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions

Dave Durber
 

Hello Tim:

For general use using JAWS, I intend using Eloquence. The reason why I wish to use DEC-TALK Express, is when I wish to record media streams from the internet or when I want to record media from an external media device, before converting whichever media to a compressed format because, as you are probably aware, if you only have one sound card and you are using a software synthesizer, whichever screen-reader you are using, gets included along with the recording you are wanting to record. In Windows XP, this generally did not happen. For me, I used to be able to use JAWS with Eloquence, while I was creating a recording and JAWS was not included in any recording.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Ford" <ttford@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions


Hi All,

What are the benefits of using a Dec-TALK Express over the modern options? I have one sitting in a drawer, needing a repair to its power cord socket, so if there is a good reason, I would get that fixed!

I go back to the 1980s, and my share of synthetic speech boards or stand-alone devices, all of which were really bad by today's standards. I thought I had the perfect device when I got a Dectalk. I then got the then-new Audapter, created by Noel Runyun, and it was truly wonderful, fast, responsive, stable.

Fast forward to when JAWS for Windows came out with that excellent built-in Eloquence voice. For a while, the limited processing power and speed of those earlier computers caused me to continue use of the Audapter; it is a stand-alone device like the Dec-Talk, so it helped a lot to take the load off the computer. But at some point, computers and Eloquence became, in my humble opinion, much better than the Dec-Talk or the Audapter. After using just Eloquence with JAWS for several years, I dug out the Audapter, and was shocked by how it was surpassed by the modern technology.

So again, what is the advantage today in using the Dec-Talk?

Sincerely,
Tim Ford



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions

Hello Shai:

When I added the DEC-TALK Express in Windows 32 BIT, I accepted the only com port, which was com1, and accepted the default settings: 9600, n, 8, 1. I restarted JAWS 14. I looked in the list of synthesizers and did not find it listed there. I then restarted the computer, but, when I checked the list of synthesizers, there is no DEC-TALK Express.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shai" <shaiwol@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions


Hello Dave,
Are you sure that you are using the correct com port for the DecTalk?
Have you attempted to restart JAWS? What occurs when you attempt to
find it in the voice adjustment dialog? I am using the latest version
of JAWS with a DecTalk Express on a Windows10 64bit. I am using it
with a serial to USB cable. I find that this set up works well, but
that once in a while on a web page JAWS will crash and I will need to
restart it.


On 9/21/17, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Hello everyone:

I Have installed Windows 7 Professional 32 BIT on a PC.

I have a DEC-TALK Express external synthesizer which I would like to
use with JAWS Version 14., with a view to using it with the latest
version of JAWS in Windows 10 32 BIT, if the latest Version of JAWS
will support this synthesizer.

I connected the DEC-TALK Express to the on-board serial port. I used
the Synthesizer and Braill Manager in JAWS 14, to add the DEC-Talk
Express Synthesizer. However, when I accessed the Synthesizer
Submenue, under Utilities in JAWS 14, the DEC-TALK Express is not listed.

What do I have to do in order for JAWS 14 to send the speech output
to the DEC-TALK Express and to have the said synthesizer to appear in
the list of added synthesizers?

Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber



How to remove pictures embedded into word document

Adekoya Rasak
 

Hello All,

I am trying to edit a word document. It has many pictures embedded
into it with words on same document. How can I remove such pictures?
I use word 2016 and jaws 18.

Thank you.

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Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

Thank you.  I did figure that out.  I was responding to a couple of messages at the same time and did not include all of the information I was sent.  I tried it and routed the jaws cursor to the pc by using insert and the dash key on the top right of the numpad.  I will have to try your method, also.  I just tried insert-delete and was told this feature is only available in virtual document.  I pressed escape to put my mesage in virtual view and tried insert-delete and it said virtual cursor routed to pc.  Even when not in virtual view, insert plus numpad dash still says jaws is routed to pc, so I think that is the one I shall give my brother to use.  Thank you for the other information. 

Carol

 


On 9/27/2017 10:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,
 
Not numpad delete, it's Insert / Jaws key + delete.  This routes the virtual cursor to the PC cursor.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you, Gentlemen.  I will send my brother your information.  One thing, though, I found that insert-Jawsdash routes Jaws to PC.  The numpad-delete removes characters or, if the numlock key is on, it adds a period.  This should be enough information for him to figure out what he wants to do.  Also, is it possible to move by small amounts when using the touch cursor, or is this something that only works with the Jaws cursor?

Carol

On 9/27/2017 8:35 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Carol,
 
I've never tried doing what you & your brother are attempting, but try the keystroke, Jaws key + delete, this routes the virtual cursor to the PC cursor.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:13 PM
Subject: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.  My
brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain letter
on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to click on a
specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws?  He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws.  Thanks for any help.

Carol









Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Carol,
 
Not numpad delete, it's Insert / Jaws key + delete.  This routes the virtual cursor to the PC cursor.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Thank you, Gentlemen.  I will send my brother your information.  One thing, though, I found that insert-Jawsdash routes Jaws to PC.  The numpad-delete removes characters or, if the numlock key is on, it adds a period.  This should be enough information for him to figure out what he wants to do.  Also, is it possible to move by small amounts when using the touch cursor, or is this something that only works with the Jaws cursor?

Carol

On 9/27/2017 8:35 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Carol,
 
I've never tried doing what you & your brother are attempting, but try the keystroke, Jaws key + delete, this routes the virtual cursor to the PC cursor.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:13 PM
Subject: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.  My
brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain letter
on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to click on a
specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws?  He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws.  Thanks for any help.

Carol








Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

Thank you, Gentlemen.  I will send my brother your information.  One thing, though, I found that insert-Jawsdash routes Jaws to PC.  The numpad-delete removes characters or, if the numlock key is on, it adds a period.  This should be enough information for him to figure out what he wants to do.  Also, is it possible to move by small amounts when using the touch cursor, or is this something that only works with the Jaws cursor?

Carol

On 9/27/2017 8:35 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Carol,
 
I've never tried doing what you & your brother are attempting, but try the keystroke, Jaws key + delete, this routes the virtual cursor to the PC cursor.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:13 PM
Subject: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.  My
brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain letter
on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to click on a
specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws?  He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws.  Thanks for any help.

Carol








Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Carol,
 
I've never tried doing what you & your brother are attempting, but try the keystroke, Jaws key + delete, this routes the virtual cursor to the PC cursor.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:13 PM
Subject: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.  My
brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain letter
on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to click on a
specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws?  He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws.  Thanks for any help.

Carol







Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

John Covici
 

I think its alt-shift and down/up/lwft/right arrow keys. It goes by 2
pixels by default if I remember correctly.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:47 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by
pixels. My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse
to a certain letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels
upward in order to click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in
order to click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and
is still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any
help.

Carol






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...


looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Carol Smith
 

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels. My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and is still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any help.

Carol


Re: Jaws & iCloud control panel

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Thanks for the heads up. :(

Yeah, I dont know what is up with Apples accessibility on PC's... Is it the way Windows handles things or maybe they want you to buy a Mac? LOL :)
ITunes and ICloud havent ever been as accessible as their IOS versions
Can' speak to the usability on a Mac... Never had the chance to play with one.
The Icloud website wasnt very accessible when I used it last. But to be fair that was years ago. :)
On 9/27/2017 7:33 AM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Not sure how many of you use the iCloud control panel software put out by Apple Inc. to keep your  PC and iPhone in sync. but most recent update:

iCloud for Windows Version 7.0.0.0

which I installed last evening is no longer accessible via normal JAWS navigation such as tabbing through the controls you want (checkboxes) and don’t as well as the apply, ok, sign out buttons etc.

After much tinkering around, I did find a way to get to what I needed to via the JAWS touch cursor. I’m not a big fan of that and prefer normal ways of getting around the page but it is better than nothing. Just a FYI as I’ve been using this program for years and all updates until this one have been very accessible.

 

Best,

Al



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Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I just had to revert to win 7 at my business because a Win 10 update caused the software for some testing hardware I use to stop working in windows 10. So like stated it really depends on your apps... Over all win 10 is useable with the normal Jaws issues that occured in win 7 Just a few more...

On 9/27/2017 10:22 AM, Michael Mote wrote:
Hi Laura! I have both Windows 10, and Windows 7 machines where I work. I like using Windows 10 more and more, because newer versions of JAWS work better using applications that I am using perform my job duties. As stated before, it really depends on the type of work you're involved in doing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Hi all,

My work place is in the process of upgrading from windows 7 to Windows 10. I recall many of my Jaws-user friends had difficulties with various acccessibility losses when Windows 10 came out. I can ask my work to keep my machine running windows 7. What have peoples'
experiences been with Windows 10? Will upgrading likely cuse problems for me, or have most of the wrinkles been ironed out by this point?

Laura





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Owner of Soundtique.
707-502-5575
1897 SE Dr.
Grants Pass, Or. 97526


Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Michael Mote
 

Hi Laura! I have both Windows 10, and Windows 7 machines where I work. I like using Windows 10 more and more, because newer versions of JAWS work better using applications that I am using perform my job duties. As stated before, it really depends on the type of work you're involved in doing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Hi all,

My work place is in the process of upgrading from windows 7 to Windows 10. I recall many of my Jaws-user friends had difficulties with various acccessibility losses when Windows 10 came out. I can ask my work to keep my machine running windows 7. What have peoples'
experiences been with Windows 10? Will upgrading likely cuse problems for me, or have most of the wrinkles been ironed out by this point?

Laura


Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Can you give specific reasons?
I think your decision also needs to take into account the applications you use. I like Windows 10 a lot, but in my business for example I use Sage 50 as my accounting software and in Windows 7 I can use the Jaws cursor to look at certain information on the screen and, if need be, there are a few examples where I have to click on something which is only possible with the Jaws cursor.
I tried using Sage 50 with Windows 10 and as in many other situations, the Jaws cursor reads absolutely nothing. I can get to some of the information I need with the touch cursor, but I can't get to some other items so at this point this alone means that I would at least need one machine with Windows 7 so I can still run Sage 50 on that.
The Jaws cursor in Windows 10 is certainly a lot less useful so if you have applications where you need it then I would say it might be better to stick with Windows 7 for now.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

it is fifty-fifty, i honestly would stay with widnows 7, if you can.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Wolk
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Hi all,

My work place is in the process of upgrading from windows 7 to Windows 10. I recall many of my Jaws-user friends had difficulties with various acccessibility losses when Windows 10 came out. I can ask my work to keep my machine running windows 7. What have peoples'
experiences been with Windows 10? Will upgrading likely cuse problems for me, or have most of the wrinkles been ironed out by this point?

Laura


Re: returning to normal desktop

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Marvin,

 

Desktop 1 in Windows 10 is your normal desktop, there is no other. I think somebody else said this already, but just accept the fact that is calls it desktop 1 and not desktop. Since you can create virtual desktops I think this makes a lot of sense, it would hardly be logical if it were only called “Desktop” and then if you created a second desktop this would be called Desktop 1 and so on. It’s a bit like elevators, some say the main or ground floor is 1, others call it main or lobby, but in a way calling it 1 does also make sense because if a building has 5 floors then the main floor is also one of them so instead of calling it Main and then 1 to 4 why not call it 1 and then go to 5.

This to me sounds like more of an OCD issue. I don’t want to say you are OCD since I don’t know you, but to get super excited about the fact it now says Desktop 1 instead of just Desktop and to spend a lot of time discussing it is a waste of time especially since that is the way it is and I doubt Microsoft is going to change it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: returning to normal desktop

 

Hi,

 

Check the properties of your Intel graphics driver.  Disable hotkeys.  Control-Win Left and Right rotate the screen by default.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: 27 September 2017 04:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: returning to normal desktop

 

I have the same problem; my computer only works with desktop 1; if I use control plus n and go to desktop, I cannot move anywhere.  From the start button, and the rest, only can use desktop 1; if there is a solution to get the regular desktop to take desktop 1’s place, I would like to know of it.

 

From: Jason White via Groups.Io

Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: returning to normal desktop

 

I usually just type Windows+x u u if I need to shut down the system entirely.

 

However, since I’m using a laptop (whether mine at home or the one at work), I usually just type Windows +x u s to suspend it instead of performing a full shutdown.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 8:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: returning to normal desktop

 

When I turn the computer on the only program running is Jaws.  When I press windows + d to go to the desktop and press insert + T Jaws will say “desktop one”.  Whether I open another program or not, when I press alt + tab Jaws does not announce “desktop one” or “desktop”.

 

If I press control + N and then press insert + T Jaws will say “desktop”.  When I press alt + tab Jaws will announce “desktop.  If I press alt + F4 this desktop will go away and Jaws will not announce “desktop” when I press alt + tab.

 

Often times when I press windows + D and then press insert + T Jaws will say “documents” despite the fact that I’m on the desktop.

 

In order for me to shut down the computer I have noticed I have to be on “desktop one”.  I have also noticed that some icons that are on desktop are not on desktop one.  In addition, most of the time when I press windows + M nothing happens …… only some of the time that will take me to the desktop.  I usually have to press windows + D to get to the desktop.

 

I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 18 …… I did not have these issues with Windows 7 and Jaws 16.

 

Laura

 

  

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: returning to normal desktop

 

Hi, Laura. Before navigating to your desktop, did you close other windows? CONTROL plus N should take you to your master desktop?

 

Also, when you are on the desktop, and you press JAWS key plus T does it say desktop1?

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: returning to normal desktop

 

I’ve had similar issues with the desktop.  I’ve never created another desktop so I’m wondering how there could be a desktop one, etc.  also, when I pressed control + N to go to the master desktop and then press insert + T Jaws says “documents”.  Any thoughts on these two issues?

 

Laura

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 2:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: returning to normal desktop

 

Hi, Marvin. To return to the regular desktop instead of Desktop1 etc,

1. Navigate to the desktop.

2. Press CONTROL plus the letter N.

 

This will return you to the master desktop which has no number associated with it.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: returning to normal desktop

 

Good morning list; have an interesting question.  First, using jaws 18 and windows 10.  When I go to the desktop, the title reads desktop 1.  Once in a while, I run into something called desktop which has a few more icons.  How do I get to the regular desktop instead of desktop 1 if there is one; thanks.

 


Re: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

it is fifty-fifty, i honestly would stay with widnows 7, if you can.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Wolk
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: General state of Jaws 18 compatibility with Windows 10?

Hi all,

My work place is in the process of upgrading from windows 7 to Windows
10. I recall many of my Jaws-user friends had difficulties with
various acccessibility losses when Windows 10 came out. I can ask my
work to keep my machine running windows 7. What have peoples'
experiences been with Windows 10? Will upgrading likely cuse problems
for me, or have most of the wrinkles been ironed out by this point?

Laura


Re: Jaws & iCloud control panel

Dave...
 

Yes, observed the same.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 07:33
Subject: Jaws & iCloud control panel

Not sure how many of you use the iCloud control panel software put out by Apple Inc. to keep your  PC and iPhone in sync. but most recent update:

iCloud for Windows Version 7.0.0.0

which I installed last evening is no longer accessible via normal JAWS navigation such as tabbing through the controls you want (checkboxes) and don’t as well as the apply, ok, sign out buttons etc.

After much tinkering around, I did find a way to get to what I needed to via the JAWS touch cursor. I’m not a big fan of that and prefer normal ways of getting around the page but it is better than nothing. Just a FYI as I’ve been using this program for years and all updates until this one have been very accessible.

 

Best,

Al