From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to remove pictures embedded into word document

The caret/circumflex is SHIFT+6 on the regular keyboard of every computer keyboard I've used since, well, forever.

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Brian  - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker

I really messed up with that dictation. JAWS is lying. Mine does the same thing. I have asked people and the print is not black. The command to get into your colors is alt g then pc.

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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA

Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired

(513) 607-6053

you may not know this. but when the key describer on, if you press the key combonations twice jaws will give you even more help for the keys you press.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hi, Carol. By turning on JAWS help, I believe he means the keystroke:
JAWS key plus the number one under the function keys.

This causes JAWS to tell you what a key or key combination does in JAWS.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

Hello Jonas,

What do you mean by turning on Jaws help? Thanks.

CAROL


On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:

I think you will need to use one of the other Jaws Cursors!
I will recommend you turn on your Jaws help and play with this!


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for Jaws keystroke for WE command

I think its alt-shift and down/up/lwft/right arrow keys. It goes by 2 pixels by default if I remember correctly.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:47 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to move the mouse pointer by pixels.
My brother has a web site where he must route the mouse to a certain
letter on the screen and then navigate 20 pixels upward in order to
click on a specific point on the screen.

example:

the word "name" is in position 340 (horizontal) and 444 (vertical)

The letter "e" in "name" is at position 356, 444

He needs to move the mouse from the e to position 356, 424 in order to
click the invisible button.

Is there a way he can do this with Jaws? He is running Win10 and is
still learning how to get around with Jaws. Thanks for any help.

Carol

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How do
you spend it?

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Greetings All,

I am using Jaws 18.0.4321, Windows 10, and Outlook 2016; Jaws says black on black when I press insert F, and when I go to the ribbon, or to apply styles I find where to change the font colour, but not the background colour.

Many thanks for any suggestions as to changing the background colour to white.

Cheers Kevin.

You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...

Hi All,

 

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of JAWS users is as follows.

 

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc.  This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

 

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist.  I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest update to Windows 10.. 

 

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.  I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.  No improvement.  By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

 

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.  Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow it down, and the problem disappears.  Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

 

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

 

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the best chance of working for my purposes?

 

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18.  At least this time they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018.  I would, for cost reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my previous computers!  If trying other voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

 

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated.  If you think I should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim Ford

You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced
group of JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed
96) on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice
degrades under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter
or syllable becoming vague and indistinct, and uncertain to the point
where I too often need to resort to that command to have JAWS give
the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b for bravo, etc. This
really slows me down when writing or editing in Word or on Outlook,
and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand
laptop, which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more
RAM than I had on my previous computers, and this problem did not
exist. I am running JAWS 17, the final release, and the very latest
update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated
the drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off.
No improvement. By the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle
those sound card driver updates since I live alone, and was concerned
I could lose all sound, and have to go find a working pair of eyes to
walk them through getting one of the sound cards speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they
described as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to
slow it down, and the problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I
had a really old and slow computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while
acknowledging that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the
most responsive and clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would
have the best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time
they first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version
17, and did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost
reasons, prefer to get JAWS 17 working the way it did on all my
previous computers! If trying other voices does not work, then I will
try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a
recommendation on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...

You should probably try Jaws 18 in demo mode anyway, no harm done. I
would try vocalizer expressive and see how you like it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:05:42 -0400,
Tim Ford wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Hi All,

The issue I would like to put before this expert and experienced group of
JAWS users is as follows.

If I speed up JAWS to the rate I have used for years (50% (AKA speed 96)
on the JAWS scale), the usual clarity of the Eloquence voice degrades
under certain circumstances, resulting in the first letter or syllable
becoming vague and
indistinct, and uncertain to the point where I too often need to resort to
that command to have JAWS give the military alphabet thing, a for alpha, b
for bravo, etc. This really slows me down when writing or editing in Word
or on
Outlook, and I do a lot of writing and editing!

This problem was present from the beginning on my new Asus brand laptop,
which is fairly robust in terms of speed and ram, way more RAM than I had
on my previous computers, and this problem did not exist. I am running
JAWS 17, the final
release, and the very latest update to Windows 10..

At the suggestion of Freedom Scientific tech support, I first updated the
drivers for the 2 built-in sound cards that came standard on the machine.
I also confirmed that the sound card special effects were turned off. No
improvement. By
the way, I had Microsoft remote in and handle those sound card driver
updates since I live alone, and was concerned I could lose all sound, and
have to go find a working pair of eyes to walk them through getting one of
the sound cards
speaking!

FS tech support then remoted in to my machine, and ran what they described
as an especially thorough and deep version of the JAWS repair feature.
Problem still there; I cannot run JAWS at my usual speed, I have to slow
it down, and the
problem disappears. Ironically, it acts as if I had a really old and slow
computer, where the opposite is the case.

FS support then suggested trying other JAWS voices, while acknowledging
that Eloquence was normally what folks found to be the most responsive and
clear when run at my speed, which is around 50.

With the above in mind, what available JAWS voices, if any, would have the
best chance of working for my purposes?

FS support, as usual, suggested I try version 18. At least this time they
first checked and noted I did not have JAWS rights past version 17, and
did not push me to try JAWS 18 or 2018. I would, for cost reasons, prefer
to get JAWS 17
working the way it did on all my previous computers! If trying other
voices does not work, then I will try 18 and 201, in demo mode.

So, any voice recommendations are greatly appreciated. If you think I
should instead buy and try a USB sound card, do you have a recommendation
on a good USB sound card that does not cost a fortune?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Ford

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@...

I am using the current beta of jaws and also using version 18 on 2 computers.  On my work computer in office 2013 I press alt 

V

A

B

I can then change the way messages are sorted.  I get the choices  date, from, to etc.

On my home computer with either version of jaws this does not work.  I can press alt, then v, but can’t sort by name or date.  Any ideas?