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moderated Re: Website error messages

Adrian Spratt
 

Barbara,

When this happens to me, I use the JAWS version of screen refresh by pressing JAWS key-escape. If that doesn't work, try the Windows F5 refresh followed by the same Jaws key combo.

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Website error messages

That is possible.

Barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Website error messages

I don't know if this is your specific problem, but I have encountered sites where the error messages are displayed as graphics, sure they look like text to a sighted person, but to the screen reader they are graphics which it can't read without being able to run it through OCR first.

Gene...


On 7/11/2022 10:17 AM, Barbara Sheinbein wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Something has happened from time to time, and I am looking for a
better way to handle this.

I had to set up at a website my profile which included creating a
username and password. When I entered on Next, I was still on the
same screen. This told me that I had an error. I could not find the
error message and I went carefully from top to bottom. I also
reviewed the fields I had entered and did not pick up the error.
Later I had my sighted sister help and she was seeing messages in a
box. We got all resolved at this website. I asked her later what she
recalled about the error message’s appearance. All she could recall that it was in a box.
I did not hear anything like error or please correct.

Was there a better way for me to handle this on my own?

I was using Windows 10, Chrome and JAWS 2022.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Barbara


moderated pdf files and bookmarks?

Karen Reynolds
 

If I have a pdf that I’m reading and I want to stop and come back to it later, is there a way to put in a bookmark? If so, how do I go back to that bookmark later?

 

Karen

 


moderated Re: How to invoke Search for Messages command in Outlook 2021

Adrian Spratt
 

Have you tried shift-control-f?

--

My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lenore Presley
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to invoke Search for Messages command in Outlook 2021

 

Lenore here.

 

Hello all,

 

I have Outlook 2021.  I used to be able to invoke the search command on Outlook 2021 for e-mail messages in a specific folder by pressing F3 key.  But now it doesn’t work.  I have no clue on how I can pull up the search command for e-mail messges.  Would you please help?  I have JAWS 2022 current build.

 

Thanks!

 

EOM


moderated How to invoke Search for Messages command in Outlook 2021

Lenore Presley
 

Lenore here.

 

Hello all,

 

I have Outlook 2021.  I used to be able to invoke the search command on Outlook 2021 for e-mail messages in a specific folder by pressing F3 key.  But now it doesn’t work.  I have no clue on how I can pull up the search command for e-mail messges.  Would you please help?  I have JAWS 2022 current build.

 

Thanks!

 

EOM


moderated Re: Discord

JM Casey
 

No meetings as said elsewhere. There are servers and each server contains channels. The idea is that you get a link to join a server. When you’re on the server, you pick the channel you want to look at and read what’s there, and type in the  channel if it’s a text channel. Or you can select one of the voice channels, if the server has those, where you can talk with the other members in the channel.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian D
Sent: July 11, 2022 03:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Hi.

 

Thanks for starting the thread on Discord.

It is now being used for a local book club I’m part of.

Can I ask please, how do you join a meeting? I did not find that task easy, last time we had one.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Brian Dalton.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison via groups.io
Sent: 08 July 2022 00:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

You're so welcome!

On 07/07/2022 4:42 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

 

 

Thanks, Annabelle!

 

I’m going to download and save this.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Sure. Here ya go!

On 07/07/2022 4:33 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

 

 

Annabelle:

 

This is great to hear.

 

Do you know of any available tutorials?

 

I need to know basic things like how to connect with a particular individual, etc..

 

I’m hoping others might benefit from this thread as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Hey Tom!

I'm very familiar with Discord, and yes, it's accessible with JAWS.

On 07/07/2022 4:13 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Several members of our County Amateur Radio SKYWARN team have started to use Discord as a way to communicate with each other.

 

Since I’m the team leader, I thought it might be good if I became familiar with this platform.

 

Has anyone tried Discord, and is it reasonably accessible with Jaws?

 

Here’s the download link:

 

https://discord.com/download

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

 

 

 


moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

Gene Warner
 

Unfortunately Becky internet mail is no longer available for international purchase. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Gene...

On 7/11/2022 12:08 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
HI, try Becky mail from
http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm
I came from Becky to t-bird, but there isn't any good and accessibility reasoning I used to keep with t-bird. Becky's filters are somewhat easier to use, and Becky is not free except the first 40 days, and if you wish the archive I'll make a link for you. There is a specialized help file for Becky, like Audacity, for example, which is quite comprehensive.
On 7/10/2022 7:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Different strokes, I guess.  I just messed with the address book, and for what little use I make of it, I guess it will be fine.  Most of what I need to do is go delete old stuff, and other than a little extra tabbing around, it is good enough.

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:50, Gene Warner wrote:
First there was this new Spaces button in the tab order that I would have preferred to be able to remove as I did not need it, but I could live with that.

What really did it for and caused me to go back to 91 was that the address book was completely different, so different that it wasn't a matter of just getting used to it, I found it much more difficult to manage. The simple list of contacts was gone, it was replaced with a drop down list. So I looked for options that might restore the address book to what I preferred, but could not find anything.

Gene...


On 7/10/2022 7:32 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, I'm running 102, and it seems basically the same to me.  What problems were you having?

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:29, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi everyone!

I recently upgraded Thunderbird to version 102 from version91 and wow! I did not like the changes at all, in fact I just finished downgrading it back to version 91.

The problem now is that I won't be getting any more updates, especially any security fixes that might come up. So now I am in the hunt for something to replace it. I don't need the kitchen sink thrown at me like Outlook does. I just need a simple and accessible email client that can do IMAP. I use GMail and want to keep my email on the server. Any recommendations?

I was also using Thunderbird's RSS capability  to monitor the podcasts for new episodes to download on my Victor Reader since I have it set up for manual downloading of podcast episodes, but that is for another topic.

Thanks!

Gene...
















moderated Re: Website error messages

Gene Warner
 

You could find out if the error messages are graphics by having a sighted person try to select a few characters from one of the error messages. If it is a graphic, they'll only be able to select the whole message, not just a few characters.

Gene...

On 7/11/2022 12:14 PM, Barbara Sheinbein wrote:
That is possible.
Barbara
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Website error messages
I don't know if this is your specific problem, but I have encountered sites where the error messages are displayed as graphics, sure they look like text to a sighted person, but to the screen reader they are graphics which it can't read without being able to run it through OCR first.
Gene...
On 7/11/2022 10:17 AM, Barbara Sheinbein wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Something has happened from time to time, and I am looking for a
better way to handle this.

I had to set up at a website my profile which included creating a
username and password. When I entered on Next, I was still on the
same screen. This told me that I had an error. I could not find the
error message and I went carefully from top to bottom. I also
reviewed the fields I had entered and did not pick up the error.
Later I had my sighted sister help and she was seeing messages in a
box. We got all resolved at this website. I asked her later what she
recalled about the error message’s appearance. All she could recall that it was in a box.
I did not hear anything like error or please correct.

Was there a better way for me to handle this on my own?

I was using Windows 10, Chrome and JAWS 2022.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Barbara


moderated Re: Website error messages

Barbara Sheinbein
 

That is possible.

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Website error messages

I don't know if this is your specific problem, but I have encountered sites where the error messages are displayed as graphics, sure they look like text to a sighted person, but to the screen reader they are graphics which it can't read without being able to run it through OCR first.

Gene...


On 7/11/2022 10:17 AM, Barbara Sheinbein wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Something has happened from time to time, and I am looking for a
better way to handle this.

I had to set up at a website my profile which included creating a
username and password. When I entered on Next, I was still on the
same screen. This told me that I had an error. I could not find the
error message and I went carefully from top to bottom. I also
reviewed the fields I had entered and did not pick up the error.
Later I had my sighted sister help and she was seeing messages in a
box. We got all resolved at this website. I asked her later what she
recalled about the error message’s appearance. All she could recall that it was in a box.
I did not hear anything like error or please correct.

Was there a better way for me to handle this on my own?

I was using Windows 10, Chrome and JAWS 2022.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Barbara


moderated Re: Website error messages

Gene Warner
 

I don't know if this is your specific problem, but I have encountered sites where the error messages are displayed as graphics, sure they look like text to a sighted person, but to the screen reader they are graphics which it can't read without being able to run it through OCR first.

Gene...

On 7/11/2022 10:17 AM, Barbara Sheinbein wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Something has happened from time to time, and I am looking for a better way to handle this.
I had to set up at a website my profile which included creating a username and password.  When I entered on Next, I was still on the same screen.  This told me that I had an error.  I could not find the error message and I went carefully from top to bottom.  I also reviewed the fields I had entered and did not pick up the error.  Later I had my sighted sister help and she was seeing messages in a box.  We got all resolved at this website.  I asked her later what she recalled about the error message’s appearance.  All she could recall that it was in a box. I did not hear anything like error or please correct.
Was there a better way for me to handle this on my own?
I was using Windows 10, Chrome and JAWS 2022.
Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Barbara


moderated Website error messages

Barbara Sheinbein
 

Hi Everyone,

 

Something has happened from time to time, and I am looking for a better way to handle this.

 

I had to set up at a website my profile which included creating a username and password.  When I entered on Next, I was still on the same screen.  This told me that I had an error.  I could not find the error message and I went carefully from top to bottom.  I also reviewed the fields I had entered and did not pick up the error.  Later I had my sighted sister help and she was seeing messages in a box.  We got all resolved at this website.  I asked her later what she recalled about the error message’s appearance.  All she could recall that it was in a box.  I did not hear anything like error or please correct.

 

Was there a better way for me to handle this on my own?

 

I was using Windows 10, Chrome and JAWS 2022.

 

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

 

Barbara


moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

K0LNY
 


Well there's the outlook express, I use it and some people using windows 10 are using it.
You will need to set up the two step verification with a gMail account and enter the password they give you into the outlook express.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?


Well, good luck finding a replacement for Thunderbird, because if you are looking for a free email client that offers comparable accessibility and features, you will have a tough time finding one.  You could switch to the Windows 10 Mail app, but if you didn't like Thunderbird, you will almost certainly hate, hate, hate this email client.  Your only other option would be Outlook, which of course, isn't free, or some other paid client like Becky's Email, which I am not familiar with.  Happy searching.


Gerald



On 7/10/2022 10:23 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Besides, who is to blame is beside the point. Whether I saw it now by mistakenly downloading 102 before I should have or whether I waited until Mozilla offered it through the update channel, the point was that I could see where Thunderbird was going and I didn't like it, so it is time to look for something to replace it with.

Throwing out blame was pointless and accomplished nothing.

Now can we just drop it and get back to the original question?

Gene...


On 7/10/2022 10:11 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Brian. Gene didn't have to deflect anything. Your aim is horrible. Maybe we're the ones who are sighted, and maybe you need cataract surgery ... on your mind!

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2022 6:58 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 08:41 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

If you don't have anything nice to say, you should try saying nothing at all.

-
No, Gene.  And your deflections, and that's all they are, are duly noted.  Grow up!
-- 

Brian *-*Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

**Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.***
*     ~ Lauren Bacall








moderated Re: Outlook Rules

 

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 03:54 AM, Rod & Ele Macdonald wrote:
“Rules & Alerts” is not on the Home tab in Outlook 2021: it is on the FILE tab – Alt+F and then tab 3-4 times.
-
It appears that at some point I'm going to have to sit down with someone who has Office 2021 and M365 and get some screen shots of the various ribbons and the file backstage view to see what's on them and where.  This is definitely a recent change and if it's occurred in Office 2021 it will certainly have occurred in M365.

I hate it when what had been many years, and versions, of "standard arrangements" get changed.  But it's all part of how software works over time.  But I have no intention of replacing Office 2016 anytime soon, so I'm going to need to acquire the keyboard shortcuts by actually looking at what's shown when you hit ALT plus the ribbon letter for all the ribbons in a given Office suite program.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

Gene Warner
 

It's funny you call that folder "everything". Everything is a great little file searching utility from Void Tools.

A bit off topic but I couldn't resist. :-D

Gene...

On 7/11/2022 1:38 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
You can copy Becky's "everything" folder which is under the  main "my documents folder by default.
all of your different profiles are stored within that main folder:
"C:\Users\admin\Documents\Becky"
On 7/10/2022 9:27 PM, Tom X via groups.io wrote:
Hi,


The part I like about Tbird is that it is simple to make a backup copy of the roaming, Thunderbird folder or just the profiles folder.


Having a copy of the profiles folder backed up every couple of weeks, has got me out of trouble numerous times.  .


Maybe other email clients also have this feature but Outlook 2013 certainly did not which is why that client is not used any more by me.


Tom


On 11/07/2022 2:08 pm, Curtis Delzer wrote:
HI, try Becky mail from

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm

I came from Becky to t-bird, but there isn't any good and accessibility reasoning I used to keep with t-bird. Becky's filters are somewhat easier to use, and Becky is not free except the first 40 days, and if you wish the archive I'll make a link for you. There is a specialized help file for Becky, like Audacity, for example, which is quite comprehensive.

On 7/10/2022 7:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Different strokes, I guess.  I just messed with the address book, and for what little use I make of it, I guess it will be fine.  Most of what I need to do is go delete old stuff, and other than a little extra tabbing around, it is good enough.

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:50, Gene Warner wrote:
First there was this new Spaces button in the tab order that I would have preferred to be able to remove as I did not need it, but I could live with that.

What really did it for and caused me to go back to 91 was that the address book was completely different, so different that it wasn't a matter of just getting used to it, I found it much more difficult to manage. The simple list of contacts was gone, it was replaced with a drop down list. So I looked for options that might restore the address book to what I preferred, but could not find anything.

Gene...


On 7/10/2022 7:32 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, I'm running 102, and it seems basically the same to me. What problems were you having?

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:29, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi everyone!

I recently upgraded Thunderbird to version 102 from version91 and wow! I did not like the changes at all, in fact I just finished downgrading it back to version 91.

The problem now is that I won't be getting any more updates, especially any security fixes that might come up. So now I am in the hunt for something to replace it. I don't need the kitchen sink thrown at me like Outlook does. I just need a simple and accessible email client that can do IMAP. I use GMail and want to keep my email on the server. Any recommendations?

I was also using Thunderbird's RSS capability  to monitor the podcasts for new episodes to download on my Victor Reader since I have it set up for manual downloading of podcast episodes, but that is for another topic.

Thanks!

Gene...



















moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

Gene Warner
 

I know, since I do a full system backup every Saturday, I had copies of my profiles from version 91 which made going backwards a snap.

Gene...

On 7/11/2022 12:27 AM, Tom X via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
The part I like about Tbird is that it is simple to make a backup copy of the roaming, Thunderbird folder or just the profiles folder.
Having a copy of the profiles folder backed up every couple of weeks, has got me out of trouble numerous times.  .
Maybe other email clients also have this feature but Outlook 2013 certainly did not which is why that client is not used any more by me.
Tom
On 11/07/2022 2:08 pm, Curtis Delzer wrote:
HI, try Becky mail from

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm

I came from Becky to t-bird, but there isn't any good and accessibility reasoning I used to keep with t-bird. Becky's filters are somewhat easier to use, and Becky is not free except the first 40 days, and if you wish the archive I'll make a link for you. There is a specialized help file for Becky, like Audacity, for example, which is quite comprehensive.

On 7/10/2022 7:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Different strokes, I guess.  I just messed with the address book, and for what little use I make of it, I guess it will be fine.  Most of what I need to do is go delete old stuff, and other than a little extra tabbing around, it is good enough.

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:50, Gene Warner wrote:
First there was this new Spaces button in the tab order that I would have preferred to be able to remove as I did not need it, but I could live with that.

What really did it for and caused me to go back to 91 was that the address book was completely different, so different that it wasn't a matter of just getting used to it, I found it much more difficult to manage. The simple list of contacts was gone, it was replaced with a drop down list. So I looked for options that might restore the address book to what I preferred, but could not find anything.

Gene...


On 7/10/2022 7:32 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, I'm running 102, and it seems basically the same to me.  What problems were you having?

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:29, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi everyone!

I recently upgraded Thunderbird to version 102 from version91 and wow! I did not like the changes at all, in fact I just finished downgrading it back to version 91.

The problem now is that I won't be getting any more updates, especially any security fixes that might come up. So now I am in the hunt for something to replace it. I don't need the kitchen sink thrown at me like Outlook does. I just need a simple and accessible email client that can do IMAP. I use GMail and want to keep my email on the server. Any recommendations?

I was also using Thunderbird's RSS capability  to monitor the podcasts for new episodes to download on my Victor Reader since I have it set up for manual downloading of podcast episodes, but that is for another topic.

Thanks!

Gene...
















moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

Gene Warner
 

Oh, I forgot, thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out!

Gene...

On 7/11/2022 12:08 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
HI, try Becky mail from
http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm
I came from Becky to t-bird, but there isn't any good and accessibility reasoning I used to keep with t-bird. Becky's filters are somewhat easier to use, and Becky is not free except the first 40 days, and if you wish the archive I'll make a link for you. There is a specialized help file for Becky, like Audacity, for example, which is quite comprehensive.
On 7/10/2022 7:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Different strokes, I guess.  I just messed with the address book, and for what little use I make of it, I guess it will be fine.  Most of what I need to do is go delete old stuff, and other than a little extra tabbing around, it is good enough.

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:50, Gene Warner wrote:
First there was this new Spaces button in the tab order that I would have preferred to be able to remove as I did not need it, but I could live with that.

What really did it for and caused me to go back to 91 was that the address book was completely different, so different that it wasn't a matter of just getting used to it, I found it much more difficult to manage. The simple list of contacts was gone, it was replaced with a drop down list. So I looked for options that might restore the address book to what I preferred, but could not find anything.

Gene...


On 7/10/2022 7:32 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, I'm running 102, and it seems basically the same to me.  What problems were you having?

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:29, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi everyone!

I recently upgraded Thunderbird to version 102 from version91 and wow! I did not like the changes at all, in fact I just finished downgrading it back to version 91.

The problem now is that I won't be getting any more updates, especially any security fixes that might come up. So now I am in the hunt for something to replace it. I don't need the kitchen sink thrown at me like Outlook does. I just need a simple and accessible email client that can do IMAP. I use GMail and want to keep my email on the server. Any recommendations?

I was also using Thunderbird's RSS capability  to monitor the podcasts for new episodes to download on my Victor Reader since I have it set up for manual downloading of podcast episodes, but that is for another topic.

Thanks!

Gene...
















moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

Gene Warner
 

I probably should have noted this in my original message but, the replacement does not have to be free, if the program works well, does what I need, and is accessible, I am willing to pay for it. There does need to be a trial though, I will not pay for software without being able to try it out first.

Gene...

On 7/11/2022 12:08 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
HI, try Becky mail from
http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm
I came from Becky to t-bird, but there isn't any good and accessibility reasoning I used to keep with t-bird. Becky's filters are somewhat easier to use, and Becky is not free except the first 40 days, and if you wish the archive I'll make a link for you. There is a specialized help file for Becky, like Audacity, for example, which is quite comprehensive.
On 7/10/2022 7:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Different strokes, I guess.  I just messed with the address book, and for what little use I make of it, I guess it will be fine.  Most of what I need to do is go delete old stuff, and other than a little extra tabbing around, it is good enough.

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:50, Gene Warner wrote:
First there was this new Spaces button in the tab order that I would have preferred to be able to remove as I did not need it, but I could live with that.

What really did it for and caused me to go back to 91 was that the address book was completely different, so different that it wasn't a matter of just getting used to it, I found it much more difficult to manage. The simple list of contacts was gone, it was replaced with a drop down list. So I looked for options that might restore the address book to what I preferred, but could not find anything.

Gene...


On 7/10/2022 7:32 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, I'm running 102, and it seems basically the same to me.  What problems were you having?

CH


On 7/10/2022 18:29, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi everyone!

I recently upgraded Thunderbird to version 102 from version91 and wow! I did not like the changes at all, in fact I just finished downgrading it back to version 91.

The problem now is that I won't be getting any more updates, especially any security fixes that might come up. So now I am in the hunt for something to replace it. I don't need the kitchen sink thrown at me like Outlook does. I just need a simple and accessible email client that can do IMAP. I use GMail and want to keep my email on the server. Any recommendations?

I was also using Thunderbird's RSS capability  to monitor the podcasts for new episodes to download on my Victor Reader since I have it set up for manual downloading of podcast episodes, but that is for another topic.

Thanks!

Gene...
















moderated Re: Discord

James English
 

Hi Brian,

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'join a meeting.' You join a
discord server by getting an invite link (after you click the link it
simply asks if you want to join.) There are no actual 'meetings' on
discord, unless of course there's some weird system I've never seen in
the servers I'm a part of. You just join a voice chat when everyone
else is in one, and you do that by pressing space bar on the voice
channel.

- James (gvh#4198 on discord if you want any help with it)

On 7/11/22, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:
When they sent me an e-mail, I had to fix my user name and password, and to
do so, I had to type in my phone number or e-mail.



I forgot which one I used.



AIRA assisted me with this, because I really had no idea how to do it.



Next time, I kee better notes.



Justin







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian D
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 3:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord



Hi.



Thanks for starting the thread on Discord.

It is now being used for a local book club I’m part of.

Can I ask please, how do you join a meeting? I did not find that task easy,
last time we had one.



Thanks in advance.



Best wishes,



Brian Dalton.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison via
groups.io
Sent: 08 July 2022 00:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Discord



You're so welcome!

On 07/07/2022 4:42 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...
<mailto:tombehler@...> > wrote:





Thanks, Annabelle!



I’m going to download and save this.



Tom Behler





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Discord



Sure. Here ya go!

Beginner's Guide to Discord – Discord
<https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360045138571-Beginner-s-Guide-to-Discord>


On 07/07/2022 4:33 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...
<mailto:tombehler@...> > wrote:





Annabelle:



This is great to hear.



Do you know of any available tutorials?



I need to know basic things like how to connect with a particular
individual, etc..



I’m hoping others might benefit from this thread as well.



Tom Behler





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Discord



Hey Tom!

I'm very familiar with Discord, and yes, it's accessible with JAWS.

On 07/07/2022 4:13 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...
<mailto:tombehler@...> > wrote:





Hello, everyone.



Several members of our County Amateur Radio SKYWARN team have started to use
Discord as a way to communicate with each other.



Since I’m the team leader, I thought it might be good if I became familiar
with this platform.



Has anyone tried Discord, and is it reasonably accessible with Jaws?



Here’s the download link:



https://discord.com/download



Thanks!



Tom Behler: KB8TYJ















moderated Re: Discord

Justin Williams
 

When they sent me an e-mail, I had to fix my user name and password, and to do so, I had to type in my phone number or e-mail.

 

I forgot which one I used.

 

AIRA assisted me with this, because I really  had no idea how to do it.

 

Next time, I kee better notes.

 

Justin

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian D
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 3:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Hi.

 

Thanks for starting the thread on Discord.

It is now being used for a local book club I’m part of.

Can I ask please, how do you join a meeting? I did not find that task easy, last time we had one.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Brian Dalton.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison via groups.io
Sent: 08 July 2022 00:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

You're so welcome!

On 07/07/2022 4:42 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

 

 

Thanks, Annabelle!

 

I’m going to download and save this.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Sure. Here ya go!

On 07/07/2022 4:33 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

 

 

Annabelle:

 

This is great to hear.

 

Do you know of any available tutorials?

 

I need to know basic things like how to connect with a particular individual, etc..

 

I’m hoping others might benefit from this thread as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Discord

 

Hey Tom!

I'm very familiar with Discord, and yes, it's accessible with JAWS.

On 07/07/2022 4:13 PM Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Several members of our County Amateur Radio SKYWARN team have started to use Discord as a way to communicate with each other.

 

Since I’m the team leader, I thought it might be good if I became familiar with this platform.

 

Has anyone tried Discord, and is it reasonably accessible with Jaws?

 

Here’s the download link:

 

https://discord.com/download

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

 

 

 


moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

dennis
 

same here.

On 7/10/2022 9:34 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Maybe its the settings I use but I find that in my case I'm just the opposite. I am much more efficient with an email client than with the GMail web site.

Its a pity that the old Outlook Express is no more. Although it had news group access that I didn't need, its email client was simple and easy and did everything I needed from an email client.

There something called OE classic but it is completely inaccessible through a screen reader, or at least it was the last time I tried it.

https://www.oeclassic.com

Gene...


On 7/10/2022 10:18 PM, David Moore wrote:
I use the on line Gmail, and I can be more efficient than I can using any client!


On Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 10:11 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>> wrote:

    Hi, Brian. Gene didn't have to deflect anything. Your aim is
    horrible. Maybe we're the ones who are sighted, and maybe you need
    cataract surgery ... on your mind!____

    __ __

    Bill White____

    __ __

    billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>____

    __ __

    *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
    [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] *On Behalf
    Of *Brian Vogel
    *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2022 6:58 PM
    *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
    *Subject:* Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?____

    __ __

    On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 08:41 PM, Gene Warner wrote:____

    If you don't have anything nice to say, you should try saying
    nothing at all.____

    -
    No, Gene.  And your deflections, and that's all they are, are duly
    noted.  Grow up!
    -- ____

    Brian *-*Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 ____

    **Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
    complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.***
    *     ~ Lauren Bacall____

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moderated Re: Replacement for Thunderbird?

dennis
 

ninite has it as official and that's where i got 102.

On 7/10/2022 7:33 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 08:19 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Then 102 should be marked as a beta and not an official release which is how it is marked in their releases directory.
-
But it's clear exactly what it is on the release notes page.

It's simple, really, if you are not being offered an update via the installed version, which is on the release channel, then anything you download is NOT a production release.

This is your doing.  At least own your own choices.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

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