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moderated Re: checking the box for system tray

Karen Reynolds
 

HI,

It is there now. Thank you for the offer though. <smile>

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 9:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: checking the box for system tray

 

If it is not in the System Tray, there may be other things that are going on to get it there. You may have to contact Tech Support at Freedom Scientific. It that doesn’t help fix the problem, contact me privately and I possibably could fix it for you if you would allow me to have a Tandam session into your computer with JAWS.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: checking the box for system tray

 

Nope, I didn’t. Thanks. I just did and it seems to have worked.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

 

Did you press ALT + F4 and restart JAWS?

 

After you restart JAWS, see if it is now in the System Tray.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

I went into Jaws and alt f and arrowed down to basics. I pressed enter and tabbed down to the box to check to put Jaws in the system tray. Just under that was another box that was checked which I don’t know what it is or what it does. It was

“show virtual viewer on screen”. Can anyone tell me what this is?

 

Also, when I checked to put it in the system tray, it is still in the alt tab line up when I cycle through programs using that keystroke. Is there something else I need to do?

 

Karen

 

 


moderated JAWS freezes in Google DOcs

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi,

I se JAWS 2021. WHen I open documents in GOogle Docs, after reading a particular paragraph, JAWS freezes and stops talking. Nothing happens when I go up or down with the arrow keys. I have to press alt+tab, go elsewhere, and then come back, to make JAWS read out the document. How can i fix this?

Rahul

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Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law
Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub
Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





moderated Re: Caps lock as Jaws key

Hareth
 

Hi Ann,
steps:
press insert plus 6 in the number row followed by
insert plus shift plus d for default to all applications
go to "keyboard in the treeview to find the jaws key toggle, change it
with the space bar.
you have 3 choices insert, scroll lock and caps lock for a jaws key.
tab to OK press it and close and save your changes.
Good luck

On 7/18/22, ann <tate886@...> wrote:
Hi folks,


It's been a long time since i needed to play with this, but wasn't there
an option to use the Caps Lock key as the Jaws key in the basic options
settings? I'd like to turn on the Caps Lock as the Jaws key in my
default desktop keyboard layout. I know I can probably go through
Keyboard manager to set this, but I thought there was a faster way.
Looks like that has been removed in the latest versions of Jaws


Thanks,

~Ann







moderated Caps lock as Jaws key

ann
 

Hi folks,


It's been a long time since i needed to play with this, but wasn't there an option to use the Caps Lock key as the Jaws key in the basic options settings? I'd like to turn on the Caps Lock as the Jaws key in my default desktop keyboard layout. I know I can probably go through Keyboard manager to set this, but I thought there was a faster way. Looks like that has been removed in the latest versions of Jaws


Thanks,

~Ann


moderated Re: checking the box for system tray

Bill White
 

Hi, Karen. Here is more about the "Show Virtual Viewer on screen" check box, and about the Virtual Viewer itself. It comes from JAWS Help, Basic Settings, in the training help, Using JAWS.

 

Show Virtual Viewer on Screen

Use this check box to specify whether the Virtual Viewer is visually displayed on the screen when you access context-sensitive (INSERT+F1) help and other helpful messages. It may be useful in training environments to show the Virtual Viewer. However, in a presentation application like PowerPoint, it might disrupt your presentation to display the Virtual Viewer. JAWS functions the same in these messages regardless of whether the Virtual Viewer is visible. For more information on using the Virtual Viewer, see Virtual Viewer.

 

Virtual Viewer

The Virtual Viewer is a message window allowing you much greater functionality with many JAWS messages. Press INSERT+F1 to experience a message in the Virtual Viewer. While INSERT+F1 messages are the messages most frequently displayed in the Virtual Viewer, other messages appear there as well:

 

Hot Key Help Messages (INSERT+H)

Windows Key Help messages (INSERT+W)

Screen Sensitive Help Technical messages (CTRL+INSERT+F1)

Several types of informational messages within Microsoft Office applications

Easily review information with standard reading commands. Read by line, word, or character. Select text as you would in any word processing program and copy it to the clipboard. Press CTRL+HOME or CTRL+END to move to the top or bottom of the message.

 

Links take you to other messages or activate commands within your applications or within Windows. Press ENTER to select a link, or press INSERT+F7 to list all links in a message and select the one you want from the list.

 

Press ESC to close a message, or just TAB to the next control in a dialog and the message closes automatically. The following commands also perform their normal actions and automatically close the Virtual Viewer: SHIFT+TAB, CTRL+TAB, F1, INSERT+J, INSERT+F1+F1, CTRL+ESC.

 

By default, messages are visible on the screen in the Virtual Viewer, and this is very helpful for sighted trainers. However, the Virtual Viewer can be set so it is not visible on the screen. Change this in the Basic Settings Dialog under the Options menu in the JAWS application window, or in the User group in Settings Center.

 

If you want the Virtual Viewer visible in some applications, but not others, do the following:

 

Open Settings Center (INSERT+F2) and select an application in the Applications combo box.

Expand the User group.

Select or clear the Show Virtual Viewer on Screen check box to toggle the Virtual Viewer setting on or off.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

I went into Jaws and alt f and arrowed down to basics. I pressed enter and tabbed down to the box to check to put Jaws in the system tray. Just under that was another box that was checked which I don’t know what it is or what it does. It was

“show virtual viewer on screen”. Can anyone tell me what this is?

 

Also, when I checked to put it in the system tray, it is still in the alt tab line up when I cycle through programs using that keystroke. Is there something else I need to do?

 

Karen

 

 


moderated Re: checking the box for system tray

Milton Ota
 

If it is not in the System Tray, there may be other things that are going on to get it there. You may have to contact Tech Support at Freedom Scientific. It that doesn’t help fix the problem, contact me privately and I possibably could fix it for you if you would allow me to have a Tandam session into your computer with JAWS.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: checking the box for system tray

 

Nope, I didn’t. Thanks. I just did and it seems to have worked.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

 

Did you press ALT + F4 and restart JAWS?

 

After you restart JAWS, see if it is now in the System Tray.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

I went into Jaws and alt f and arrowed down to basics. I pressed enter and tabbed down to the box to check to put Jaws in the system tray. Just under that was another box that was checked which I don’t know what it is or what it does. It was

“show virtual viewer on screen”. Can anyone tell me what this is?

 

Also, when I checked to put it in the system tray, it is still in the alt tab line up when I cycle through programs using that keystroke. Is there something else I need to do?

 

Karen

 

 


moderated Re: checking the box for system tray

Karen Reynolds
 

Nope, I didn’t. Thanks. I just did and it seems to have worked.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

 

Did you press ALT + F4 and restart JAWS?

 

After you restart JAWS, see if it is now in the System Tray.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

I went into Jaws and alt f and arrowed down to basics. I pressed enter and tabbed down to the box to check to put Jaws in the system tray. Just under that was another box that was checked which I don’t know what it is or what it does. It was

“show virtual viewer on screen”. Can anyone tell me what this is?

 

Also, when I checked to put it in the system tray, it is still in the alt tab line up when I cycle through programs using that keystroke. Is there something else I need to do?

 

Karen

 

 


moderated Re: checking the box for system tray

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

 

Did you press ALT + F4 and restart JAWS?

 

After you restart JAWS, see if it is now in the System Tray.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: checking the box for system tray

 

Hi,

I went into Jaws and alt f and arrowed down to basics. I pressed enter and tabbed down to the box to check to put Jaws in the system tray. Just under that was another box that was checked which I don’t know what it is or what it does. It was

“show virtual viewer on screen”. Can anyone tell me what this is?

 

Also, when I checked to put it in the system tray, it is still in the alt tab line up when I cycle through programs using that keystroke. Is there something else I need to do?

 

Karen

 

 


moderated checking the box for system tray

Karen Reynolds
 

Hi,

I went into Jaws and alt f and arrowed down to basics. I pressed enter and tabbed down to the box to check to put Jaws in the system tray. Just under that was another box that was checked which I don’t know what it is or what it does. It was

“show virtual viewer on screen”. Can anyone tell me what this is?

 

Also, when I checked to put it in the system tray, it is still in the alt tab line up when I cycle through programs using that keystroke. Is there something else I need to do?

 

Karen

 

 


moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Gene Warner
 

Well I tried it, it did something but JAWS wasn't reading any of the titles like it does when you the insert+control+alt+C or R functions.

Thanks anyway!
Gene...

On 7/17/2022 7:16 PM, Gene Warner via groups.io wrote:
I will have to try that next time, thanks!
Gene...
On 7/17/2022 6:44 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
the most direct way is
1. Open JAWS utilities on the JAWS screen
2. Arrow all the way down to 'explore my settings"
3. Open personalized settings.
4. Navigate to the file that has the same name as your spread sheet, with the extension .jsi and delete it.

that will remove all the JAWS settings for the particular spreadsheet and you can start over.

I strongly prefer to use the Excel bookmark feature for row and column titles.

With your cursor at the beginning of the row or column header (or the intersection of both)
1.  Press the application key.
2. arrow up two or three times to "define name dot-dot-dot" and press enter.  JAWS will speak the contents of the cell you are on, but just ignore him.
3. If you want row titles only, type the word "rowtitle".
If you want only column titles type "columntitle".
If you want both row and column titles, type "title'.
4. Press enter.

These entries are in the bookmark manager, which you reach with alt-m, then n., so they can be easily deleted.

Good luck!








moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Gene Warner
 

I will have to try that next time, thanks!

Gene...

On 7/17/2022 6:44 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
the most direct way is
1. Open JAWS utilities on the JAWS screen
2. Arrow all the way down to 'explore my settings"
3. Open personalized settings.
4. Navigate to the file that has the same name as your spread sheet, with the extension .jsi and delete it.
that will remove all the JAWS settings for the particular spreadsheet and you can start over.
I strongly prefer to use the Excel bookmark feature for row and column titles.
With your cursor at the beginning of the row or column header (or the intersection of both)
1.  Press the application key.
2. arrow up two or three times to "define name dot-dot-dot" and press enter.  JAWS will speak the contents of the cell you are on, but just ignore him.
3. If you want row titles only, type the word "rowtitle".
If you want only column titles type "columntitle".
If you want both row and column titles, type "title'.
4. Press enter.
These entries are in the bookmark manager, which you reach with alt-m, then n., so they can be easily deleted.
Good luck!


moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Ann Byrne
 

the most direct way is
1. Open JAWS utilities on the JAWS screen
2. Arrow all the way down to 'explore my settings"
3. Open personalized settings.
4. Navigate to the file that has the same name as your spread sheet, with the extension .jsi and delete it.

that will remove all the JAWS settings for the particular spreadsheet and you can start over.

I strongly prefer to use the Excel bookmark feature for row and column titles.

With your cursor at the beginning of the row or column header (or the intersection of both)
1. Press the application key.
2. arrow up two or three times to "define name dot-dot-dot" and press enter. JAWS will speak the contents of the cell you are on, but just ignore him.
3. If you want row titles only, type the word "rowtitle".
If you want only column titles type "columntitle".
If you want both row and column titles, type "title'.
4. Press enter.

These entries are in the bookmark manager, which you reach with alt-m, then n., so they can be easily deleted.

Good luck!

At 02:01 PM 7/17/2022, you wrote:
That's not what I'm looking for. The insert+control+alt+C or R commands tells JAWS which column or row I want it to use for the titles, on the spreadsheet I am working on, I accidentally set column titles when I wanted row titles, now I want to undo that mistake, but still have JAWS read the titles if I choose later to define it again.

What you are proposing would turn off reading column and/or row titles for spreadsheets as well as for html and PDFs.

For now I manually edited the .JSI file for the spreadsheet to accomplish my goal, but I'm thinking that there has to be a better way.

Thanks!
Gene...

Gene...


On 7/17/2022 2:48 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I would have to look for it, but some where in verbosity should be clarn column and row titles.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:35 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: removing column and/or row titles in excel
Hi everyone!
I know how to define a row or column as a column or row title,
insert+control+alt+C or insert+control+alt+R.
But I cannot find how to remove a previously defined column or row title. Anybody know?
Thanks!
Gene...







moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Ann Byrne
 

the most direct way is
1. Open JAWS utilities on the JAWS screen
2. Arrow all the way down to 'explore my settings"
3. Open personalized settings.
4. Navigate to the file that has the same name as your spread sheet, with the extension .jsi and delete it.

that will remove all the JAWS settings for the particular spreadsheet and you can start over.

I strongly prefer to use the Excel bookmark feature for row and column titles.

With your cursor at the beginning of the row or column header (or the intersection of both)
1. Press the application key.
2. arrow up two or three times to "define name dot-dot-dot" and press enter. JAWS will speak the contents of the cell you are on, but just ignore him.
3. If you want row titles only, type the word "rowtitle".
If you want only column titles type "columntitle".
If you want both row and column titles, type "title'.
4. Press enter.

These entries are in the bookmark manager, which you reach with alt-m, then n., so they can be easily deleted.

Good luck!


moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Gene Warner
 

No problem, and no apologies needed, perhaps my explanation of what I was looking for could have been better.

Like you, I am in the middle of an important project. In my case it is causing me a bit of stress so I'm not thinking as clearly as I could be.

Thanks!
Gene...

On 7/17/2022 3:12 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
Okay, I apologize, then. I was in th emiddle of something, and I'd have to go searching.
Justin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel
That's not what I'm looking for. The insert+control+alt+C or R commands tells JAWS which column or row I want it to use for the titles, on the spreadsheet I am working on, I accidentally set column titles when I wanted row titles, now I want to undo that mistake, but still have JAWS read the titles if I choose later to define it again.
What you are proposing would turn off reading column and/or row titles for spreadsheets as well as for html and PDFs.
Gene...
Gene...
On 7/17/2022 2:48 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I would have to look for it, but some where in verbosity should be clarn column and row titles.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:35 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Hi everyone!

I know how to define a row or column as a column or row title,
insert+control+alt+C or insert+control+alt+R.

But I cannot find how to remove a previously defined column or row title. Anybody know?

Thanks!
Gene...











moderated Re: Function keys on wireless keyboardand trying to change the way they operate with JAWS

Mike Pietruk
 

Curtis

thanks for the explanation! I've only bought Logitech kb300 series
keyboards for as long as I can remember; and, until this weekend's
discussion, I have no idea that this fn functionality existed in general
and specificly to the KBs I use everyday.
And, truthfully, I never cared.

I'll have to play with this and see if it gives me any new practical use.

Thanks for explaining and outlining the KB360 uses of that key.


moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Justin Williams
 

Okay, I apologize, then. I was in th emiddle of something, and I'd have to go searching.

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

That's not what I'm looking for. The insert+control+alt+C or R commands tells JAWS which column or row I want it to use for the titles, on the spreadsheet I am working on, I accidentally set column titles when I wanted row titles, now I want to undo that mistake, but still have JAWS read the titles if I choose later to define it again.

What you are proposing would turn off reading column and/or row titles for spreadsheets as well as for html and PDFs.

Gene...

Gene...


On 7/17/2022 2:48 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I would have to look for it, but some where in verbosity should be clarn column and row titles.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:35 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Hi everyone!

I know how to define a row or column as a column or row title,
insert+control+alt+C or insert+control+alt+R.

But I cannot find how to remove a previously defined column or row title. Anybody know?

Thanks!
Gene...











moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Gene Warner
 

That's not what I'm looking for. The insert+control+alt+C or R commands tells JAWS which column or row I want it to use for the titles, on the spreadsheet I am working on, I accidentally set column titles when I wanted row titles, now I want to undo that mistake, but still have JAWS read the titles if I choose later to define it again.

What you are proposing would turn off reading column and/or row titles for spreadsheets as well as for html and PDFs.

For now I manually edited the .JSI file for the spreadsheet to accomplish my goal, but I'm thinking that there has to be a better way.

Thanks!
Gene...

Gene...

On 7/17/2022 2:48 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I would have to look for it, but some where in verbosity should be clarn column and row titles.
Justin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:35 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: removing column and/or row titles in excel
Hi everyone!
I know how to define a row or column as a column or row title,
insert+control+alt+C or insert+control+alt+R.
But I cannot find how to remove a previously defined column or row title. Anybody know?
Thanks!
Gene...


moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Gene Warner
 

That's not what I'm looking for. The insert+control+alt+C or R commands tells JAWS which column or row I want it to use for the titles, on the spreadsheet I am working on, I accidentally set column titles when I wanted row titles, now I want to undo that mistake, but still have JAWS read the titles if I choose later to define it again.

What you are proposing would turn off reading column and/or row titles for spreadsheets as well as for html and PDFs.

Gene...

Gene...

On 7/17/2022 2:48 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I would have to look for it, but some where in verbosity should be clarn column and row titles.
Justin
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:35 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: removing column and/or row titles in excel
Hi everyone!
I know how to define a row or column as a column or row title,
insert+control+alt+C or insert+control+alt+R.
But I cannot find how to remove a previously defined column or row title. Anybody know?
Thanks!
Gene...


moderated Re: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Justin Williams
 

I would have to look for it, but some where in verbosity should be clarn column and row titles.

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 2:35 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: removing column and/or row titles in excel

Hi everyone!

I know how to define a row or column as a column or row title,
insert+control+alt+C or insert+control+alt+R.

But I cannot find how to remove a previously defined column or row title. Anybody know?

Thanks!
Gene...


moderated removing column and/or row titles in excel

Gene Warner
 

Hi everyone!

I know how to define a row or column as a column or row title, insert+control+alt+C or insert+control+alt+R.

But I cannot find how to remove a previously defined column or row title. Anybody know?

Thanks!
Gene...