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Moderated Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Curtis Chong
 

Gene:

Insert space then F4 if running the most current update to JAWS.

One work-around that I have tried goes like this.

First, ensure JAWS is not set to start up at any time with the possible exception of the login screen.

Second, copy the JAWS shortcut into your Startup folder. You get to this folder with the Run command: shell:startup. Press Windows 4, type shell:startup, then press Enter.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Is there a JAWS restart command? I have to unload JAWS as the first
step, then reload it as the second. It would be nice if I could do it as
a single step.

Gene...


On 8/22/2022 12:36 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:
Hello Gene:

Unfortunately, you may have to do a JAWS recycle after startup every time. This, at least, is the issue I am facing on my Windows 10 system. Fortunately, it is now quite easy (albeit inconvenient) to do this every time.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows
loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I
also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even
though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit
JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no
icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already
tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...











Moderated Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Gene Warner
 

Is there a JAWS restart command? I have to unload JAWS as the first step, then reload it as the second. It would be nice if I could do it as a single step.

Gene...

On 8/22/2022 12:36 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:
Hello Gene:
Unfortunately, you may have to do a JAWS recycle after startup every time. This, at least, is the issue I am facing on my Windows 10 system. Fortunately, it is now quite easy (albeit inconvenient) to do this every time.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon
Hi everyone!
This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows
loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I
also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.
When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even
though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit
JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!
I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no
icons should be hidden.
Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already
tried doing a repair install.
Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Gene:

Unfortunately, you may have to do a JAWS recycle after startup every time. This, at least, is the issue I am facing on my Windows 10 system. Fortunately, it is now quite easy (albeit inconvenient) to do this every time.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows
loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I
also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even
though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit
JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no
icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already
tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Gene Warner
 

That's what I do. Do you recall when this started happening for you? I only began noticing it after the July update.

Gene...

On 8/22/2022 12:29 PM, Milton Ota wrote:
Yes, I have been experiencing the problem you describe and I have found the only way to resolve the problem to have JAWS show up in the System Tray is to restart JAWS.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon
Hi everyone!
This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.
When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!
I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.
Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.
Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Milton Ota
 

Yes, I have been experiencing the problem you describe and I have found the only way to resolve the problem to have JAWS show up in the System Tray is to restart JAWS.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated Re: Shift key on My laptop is not working.

 

Key failure on laptop keyboards is one of the most common issues, and way more common on certain makes and models than others.

You have done all you can, and should, do to try to remedy this.  I would suggest using an external USB keyboard for the moment, and as a diagnostic step to confirm that it is the shift key on your laptop keyboard, and not something else.  

If it is the laptop keyboard, then replacement is what's necessary.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Moderated Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Gene Warner
 

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated USB flash drive recommendations

Dave Mitchell
 

Greetings, I have a Dell desktop and am overdue for creating a backup.

All advice and product recommendations welcome.

Happy Monday, Mitch

 

“What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Moderated Re: Shift key on My laptop is not working.

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings Michael:

 

To ascertain whether the problem is hardware or software, try plugging in another keyboard into the laptop to see if, on the external keyboard, Shift is working or not. Most likely, you have a problem with the laptop keyboard hardware.

 

I myself have not experienced this problem in decades of using laptop computers.

 

Best wishes,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Shift key on My laptop is not working.

 

Hello all, this is Michael.

Recently I experienced a problem on my Pc. The shift key is not working as expected. When I try to perform a command that involve the shift key, it completed ignored it. For example, when I try to perform the command to go to task bar by pressing Shift CTRL and Escape, it thought I performed CTRL with Escape, so it brought up Windows start menu instead. The shift key is the vital part of the Windows and Jaws keyboard commands, so without the Shift key, it can mean a whole different thing.

I tried to resolve the issue, but nothing worked. I Cleaned the keyboard with compressed air, and I even resettled my laptop just to make sure the software is not causing the problem, and nothing worked. When I finished resetting the computer, the shift key still won’t work. Instead, just one shift key not working, both went out at the same time.

Please let me know if you are also experiencing the same issue with your computer.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. Munn


Moderated Shift key on My laptop is not working.

Michael Munn
 

Hello all, this is Michael.

Recently I experienced a problem on my Pc. The shift key is not working as expected. When I try to perform a command that involve the shift key, it completed ignored it. For example, when I try to perform the command to go to task bar by pressing Shift CTRL and Escape, it thought I performed CTRL with Escape, so it brought up Windows start menu instead. The shift key is the vital part of the Windows and Jaws keyboard commands, so without the Shift key, it can mean a whole different thing.

I tried to resolve the issue, but nothing worked. I Cleaned the keyboard with compressed air, and I even resettled my laptop just to make sure the software is not causing the problem, and nothing worked. When I finished resetting the computer, the shift key still won’t work. Instead, just one shift key not working, both went out at the same time.

Please let me know if you are also experiencing the same issue with your computer.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. Munn


Moderated Re: problems with smart screen

Gene Warner
 

I tried that in that sequence and all it did was give the same message with the keep or delete buttons.

Gene...

On 8/22/2022 10:52 AM, Artur Räpp wrote:
Hi,
Smart screen is quite annoying but accessible. At least here - Windows 11, Microsoft Edge, JAWS 2022. I remember that it Worked on Windows 10 with JAWS 2021 too.
Steps to keep the downloaded file:
After downloading the file press CTRL+J (list of Downloaded files )
Move with arrow keys to the downloaded file entry
Open context menu (SHFT+F10 or Application key)
Move in the context menu to the choice Keep or something similar, press Enter. I use a different language. Sorry if I translated it incorrectly
Tab to button More choices, press space bar
Tab to button Keep anyway, press space bar.
I hope that helped you a bit.
Artur
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 5:07 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: problems with smart screen
Hi everyone!
I have been dealing with this problem for a long time and have never gotten any useful assistance from Vispero.
I just downloaded an audio game from Spoonbill Software, or tried to anyway. Then Smart Screen pops up and says that this file isn't downloaded very oftern and that it might harm my computer. I have downloaded games from Spoonbill in the past and never had any problems, So I tried to tell it to keep the file, but it still keeps throwing the warning and won't let me have the file, eventually I get a keep anyway button and click it but still it keeps complaining and I'm back at the keep button. And around and around I go never getting it to actually do as I keep telling it. I finally found a way around it by opening File explorrer, in the folder where I wanted the downloaded file I found an uncomfirmed download file, so I renamed it to the file I was downloading and exited Edge.
Has anyone ever figured out how to get Smart Screen to actually work? I am wondering if this is something that JAWS doesn't support very well and that is why I am having all this trouble.
Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated Re: problems with smart screen

Joseph Machise
 

just re sent the id message

----- Original Message -----
From: "Artur Räpp" <artur1248@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: problems with smart screen


Hi,

Smart screen is quite annoying but accessible. At least here - Windows 11,
Microsoft Edge, JAWS 2022. I remember that it Worked on Windows 10 with JAWS
2021 too.
Steps to keep the downloaded file:
After downloading the file press CTRL+J (list of Downloaded files )
Move with arrow keys to the downloaded file entry
Open context menu (SHFT+F10 or Application key)
Move in the context menu to the choice Keep or something similar, press
Enter. I use a different language. Sorry if I translated it incorrectly
Tab to button More choices, press space bar
Tab to button Keep anyway, press space bar.

I hope that helped you a bit.

Artur
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 5:07 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: problems with smart screen

Hi everyone!

I have been dealing with this problem for a long time and have never gotten
any useful assistance from Vispero.

I just downloaded an audio game from Spoonbill Software, or tried to anyway.
Then Smart Screen pops up and says that this file isn't downloaded very
oftern and that it might harm my computer. I have downloaded games from
Spoonbill in the past and never had any problems, So I tried to tell it to
keep the file, but it still keeps throwing the warning and won't let me have
the file, eventually I get a keep anyway button and click it but still it
keeps complaining and I'm back at the keep button. And around and around I
go never getting it to actually do as I keep telling it. I finally found a
way around it by opening File explorrer, in the folder where I wanted the
downloaded file I found an uncomfirmed download file, so I renamed it to the
file I was downloading and exited Edge.

Has anyone ever figured out how to get Smart Screen to actually work? I am
wondering if this is something that JAWS doesn't support very well and that
is why I am having all this trouble.

Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated Re: problems with smart screen

Artur Räpp
 

Hi,

Smart screen is quite annoying but accessible. At least here - Windows 11, Microsoft Edge, JAWS 2022. I remember that it Worked on Windows 10 with JAWS 2021 too.
Steps to keep the downloaded file:
After downloading the file press CTRL+J (list of Downloaded files )
Move with arrow keys to the downloaded file entry
Open context menu (SHFT+F10 or Application key)
Move in the context menu to the choice Keep or something similar, press Enter. I use a different language. Sorry if I translated it incorrectly
Tab to button More choices, press space bar
Tab to button Keep anyway, press space bar.

I hope that helped you a bit.

Artur

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 5:07 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: problems with smart screen

Hi everyone!

I have been dealing with this problem for a long time and have never gotten any useful assistance from Vispero.

I just downloaded an audio game from Spoonbill Software, or tried to anyway. Then Smart Screen pops up and says that this file isn't downloaded very oftern and that it might harm my computer. I have downloaded games from Spoonbill in the past and never had any problems, So I tried to tell it to keep the file, but it still keeps throwing the warning and won't let me have the file, eventually I get a keep anyway button and click it but still it keeps complaining and I'm back at the keep button. And around and around I go never getting it to actually do as I keep telling it. I finally found a way around it by opening File explorrer, in the folder where I wanted the downloaded file I found an uncomfirmed download file, so I renamed it to the file I was downloading and exited Edge.

Has anyone ever figured out how to get Smart Screen to actually work? I am wondering if this is something that JAWS doesn't support very well and that is why I am having all this trouble.

Thanks!
Gene...


Moderated Re: creating shortcuts on desktop

 

Adding Desktop Shortcuts Under Windows 10 or 11

Using the Microsoft Special Applications Folder for Creating Desktop Shortcuts
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Moderated Re: creating shortcuts on desktop

Maria Campbell
 

Select what you want to create a shortcut for, press application key, arrow to send to submenu, arrow to open, then arrow to desktop create shortcut and enter.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
On 8/21/2022 1:56 PM, Gery Gaubert wrote:

I have some things I want as shortcuts on the desktop.  I am using the latest version of jaws and windows 10.  How can I create shortcuts for folders and programs on to the desktop?


Moderated creating shortcuts on desktop

Gery Gaubert
 

I have some things I want as shortcuts on the desktop.  I am using the latest version of jaws and windows 10.  How can I create shortcuts for folders and programs on to the desktop?


Moderated Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.

Adrian Spratt
 

It sounds like you’re being told to press control-l if you want to type in a website’s URL.

 

Do you have a homepage set? If so, is it Google? In that case, press alt-home to take you to Google.

 

Otherwise, as instructed, press control-l, then www.google.com and press enter. Or type google and then press control-enter together.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 6:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.

 

Good evening, Brian, 

 

This may be a problem, in that Jaws tech support will most likely try and refer me too call the Microsoft disability answer desk because it’s their opinion that it is probably a windows issue  rather then a jaws problem. When I type the short cut G key  on my desktop  for  Google chrome, I hit the enter key and it says,      google chrome address search control plus L and that’s where I try too type the name and    phone number of what I’m looking for.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.

 

This may be a job for JAWS Tandem, as I suspect an awful lot is being "lost in translation" (so to speak) in the exchanges here.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


Moderated Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.

Mike Pietruk
 

This technique for finding info has a lot of practical applications.
I, for instance, entered
baseball scores
and got a listing of results.

With a bit of honing and playing around, one can probably have a very
useful tool.
Keep in mind, the query is handled by whatever search engine is your
default; so results may well vary.


Moderated Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.

Shai
 

Albert, I'd be happy to help you in resolving your issue. If you're
interested, please send a message privately and we'll proceed from
there.
Otherwise, I would suggest trying FreedomScientific support and also
Google Accessibility support.

On 8/20/22, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:
Good evening, Brian,



This may be a problem, in that Jaws tech support will most likely try and
refer me too call the Microsoft disability answer desk because it’s their
opinion that it is probably a windows issue rather then a jaws problem.
When I type the short cut G key on my desktop for Google chrome, I hit
the enter key and it says, google chrome address search control plus L
and that’s where I try too type the name and phone number of what I’m
looking for.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.



This may be a job for JAWS Tandem, as I suspect an awful lot is being "lost
in translation" (so to speak) in the exchanges here.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If
you’re alive, it isn’t.
~ Lauren Bacall








--
Shai Wolman
Wolman Assistive
(619)894-6587
An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults!
To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at
wolmanassistive.com


Moderated Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good evening, Brian, 

 

This may be a problem, in that Jaws tech support will most likely try and refer me too call the Microsoft disability answer desk because it’s their opinion that it is probably a windows issue  rather then a jaws problem. When I type the short cut G key  on my desktop  for  Google chrome, I hit the enter key and it says,      google chrome address search control plus L and that’s where I try too type the name and    phone number of what I’m looking for.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding the Google Chrome browser.

 

This may be a job for JAWS Tandem, as I suspect an awful lot is being "lost in translation" (so to speak) in the exchanges here.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall