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Re: Jaws use with Excel

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Very interesting I found out this morning with my lanova yoga 900 laptop
only the right shift key works with the jaws commands, but both the left and
right shift keys work for normal functions i.e. windows commands

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: January 18, 2017 06:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

George,

Don't know why not. It's a JAWS command. What version of JAWS is operating?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 06:01
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any shortcuts for
that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename
Move or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned, Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and completely
forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a workbook
for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H followed by "I" for
insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet to the
workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me into the
ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down menus are
there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do anything
in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows 7
machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice, press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the column
label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on a
worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort, right
arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For filtering
information the video I have seen has you going to top of column and
clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually challenging any
other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com









Re: Jaws use with Excel

Pablo Morales
 

Sieghard
Nope, sorry but you need to review the jaws keystrokes. Jaws key+shift+s is
the keystroke to open the list of choices for inserting, renaming, deleting,
or moving a excel sheet. If you want to see the list of jaws voices profile,
then the keystroke is jaws key+control + s.
Jaws has a good help for the commands, if you want to learn more about it,
just press Insert + space bar, then j. You will hear a text field saying
search jaws commands dialog. You type here what you want, and jaws is going
to show you a list of keystrokes related with the keyword that you typed.
More over you have the insert + H, that is a great help when you are
learning the keystrokes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sorry, but that is what I meant, Pablo, Control+Shift+S not Jaws Key+Shift+S
which opf course is for bringing up a list of voice profiles.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

No, it is no the keystroke. You need to press control+shift+S, then you will
get the list of sheets.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

I agree, Control+PageDown and Control+PageUp work for me whereas sometimes
for no reason Jaws Key+Control+S does not bring up a list of available
sheets. This seems to be intermittent because for the same workbook it
usually works but sometimes it doesn't.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook even have
multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a workbook the
old command of control page up or down does not do that thanks folks this is
awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key combination
on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel combination. You
could map a different key combination in the Excel keyboard manager,
or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any shortcuts
for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename Move
or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H followed
by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet to
the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me into
the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down menus
are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows 7
machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the column
label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on
a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort, right
arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For filtering
information the video I have seen has you going to top of column
and clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually challenging
any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


























Re: a strange firefox problem

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, I forgot to tell you that I am using jaws 13. Sometimes the Link works and sometimes it doesn't I tried it again after sending your message and it worked. Now, today it may not. Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a strange firefox problem

Do you have Jaws set to manual forms mode, and are you sure you are in forms mode when things get stuck?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a strange firefox problem

Hi, I have the same problem but, I get stuck on a web address. I have all kinds of tabs but, as soon as I get to audible.com for example, it stays there no matter what I do,. Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a strange firefox problem

Yes, I have also seen this with Firefox.

You might put Jaws into manual forms mode, so that when you get to an edit field, you just hit enter, and can add the needed text, and tab to the next field from there.

At least, this is what I have found to work in these situations.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a strange firefox problem

Hey guys,

I'm running jfw 17, and am having a very interesting issue with firefox.
If i go to enter a user name on a web page, i'll tab to the password field, and if i keep tabbing, it'll keep saying password edit, and won't go any further, until i press the escape key to get out of forms mode.
Any idea why this is happening, anyone ever seen this?

Cheers,
Jed


Re: Jaws use with Excel

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

They provide a data source for other sheets using Index and Vlookup
functions. It's how I avoid having to juggle several PDF files of reference
books, instead keeping it all on tables in a spreadsheet so I can pull what
I need. It's a tabletop role-playing gamer thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

250 sheets? Gag! I presume you have them interacting with each other, as
well? You are truly a cyber-sadist.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 18:50
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I did, so I'd think it should be available to everyone. I use a lot of
sheets -- I've got an Excel workbook with over 250 sheets. For something on
that scale Ctrl+Shift+S becomes vital.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Can't that be changed in option?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

The default for Excel 2013 is only one sheet for a workbook.
At 01:59 PM 1/18/2017, you wrote:
I use this all the time in Excel 2013, so the sheet change command is
still in the program. Perhaps something else is configured to those
keys, or as Dave suggested there might not be another sheet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Palmer Loux
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

No we were just trying to show our students how to change worksheet
pages which we could do easily in office 2010 Soon to be upgraded to
2013

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:21 PM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook
even have multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a
workbook the old command of control page up or down does not do that
thanks folks this is awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key
combination on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel
combination. You could map a different key combination in the Excel
keyboard manager, or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any
shortcuts for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename
Move or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a
sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H
followed by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet
to the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me
into the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down
menus are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows
7 machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell
is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the
column label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information
on a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and
sort? For sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a
column you are wanting to sort then pressing application key,
arrow to sort, right arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to
your choice For filtering information the video I have seen has
you going to top of column and clicking a drop down arrow which
can be visually challenging any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com








Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave...
 

250 sheets? Gag! I presume you have them interacting with each other, as
well? You are truly a cyber-sadist.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 18:50
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I did, so I'd think it should be available to everyone. I use a lot of
sheets -- I've got an Excel workbook with over 250 sheets. For something on
that scale Ctrl+Shift+S becomes vital.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Can't that be changed in option?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

The default for Excel 2013 is only one sheet for a workbook.
At 01:59 PM 1/18/2017, you wrote:
I use this all the time in Excel 2013, so the sheet change command is
still in the program. Perhaps something else is configured to those
keys, or as Dave suggested there might not be another sheet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Palmer Loux
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

No we were just trying to show our students how to change worksheet
pages which we could do easily in office 2010 Soon to be upgraded to
2013

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:21 PM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook
even have multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a
workbook the old command of control page up or down does not do that
thanks folks this is awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key
combination on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel
combination. You could map a different key combination in the Excel
keyboard manager, or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any
shortcuts for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename
Move or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a
sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H
followed by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet
to the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me
into the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down
menus are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows
7 machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell
is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the
column label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information
on a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and
sort? For sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a
column you are wanting to sort then pressing application key,
arrow to sort, right arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to
your choice For filtering information the video I have seen has
you going to top of column and clicking a drop down arrow which
can be visually challenging any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com








Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

Dave...
 

I find Denver to be a pain, as well, but we all need them, regardless,
correct?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Alton" <blinkydale@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 18:29
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting


I find data bases to be a pain.

Denver Dale


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

That's way cool. I always wanted to have that option available, simply
because spreadsheets are easier to mess with than most databases.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

Hi Ann,

If I right click on a column header or use the Application Key or Shift+F10
and then arrow to sort and press enter on A to Z that column is sorted
alphabetically and all other columns are maintained. For example, if I have
a last name column, a first name column, one for address, city and phone
number and I sort the last name column A to Z the correct first name,
address, city and phone number is moved and stays with the last name it
belongs to. I do not have to select the entire range of the table to sort
correctly.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

You want to be sure to sort the whole row, not just the column, so that all
the associated data follows your change. So if you sort the last name
column, but the first name column doesn't get sorted, the pieces won't
belong together.
At 02:45 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Ann,

Yes, but if you have the drop-down menus enabled on the column
headings, a sort from there will sort the entire column. We may be
talking at cross purposes here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:16
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting


When you are sorting in Excel, you need to select the range of data to
be sorted, not just the column. If only a column is sorted, it will be
out of sync with the rest of the worksheet. So if you are sorting by
last name, and have Alan Allen, John Johnson, and Fred Frederick, and
sort only the lastn ame column you will end up with Alan allen, Fred
Johnson, and John Fredericks.

So.

1. Select the range you are sorting: f5, go to; first cell colon last
cell, enter. Now with it all selected, go to the ribbon and tell it
what you want to sort.

At 07:57 AM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on a
worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort, right
arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For filtering
information the video I have seen has you going to top of column and
clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually challenging any
other ideas?thanks, Palmer






Re: a strange firefox problem

Tom Behler
 

Do you have Jaws set to manual forms mode, and are you sure you are in forms mode when things get stuck?

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a strange firefox problem

Hi, I have the same problem but, I get stuck on a web address. I have all kinds of tabs but, as soon as I get to audible.com for example, it stays there no matter what I do,. Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a strange firefox problem

Yes, I have also seen this with Firefox.

You might put Jaws into manual forms mode, so that when you get to an edit field, you just hit enter, and can add the needed text, and tab to the next field from there.

At least, this is what I have found to work in these situations.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a strange firefox problem

Hey guys,

I'm running jfw 17, and am having a very interesting issue with firefox.
If i go to enter a user name on a web page, i'll tab to the password field, and if i keep tabbing, it'll keep saying password edit, and won't go any further, until i press the escape key to get out of forms mode.
Any idea why this is happening, anyone ever seen this?

Cheers,
Jed


Re: Jaws use with Excel

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

I did, so I'd think it should be available to everyone. I use a lot of
sheets -- I've got an Excel workbook with over 250 sheets. For something on
that scale Ctrl+Shift+S becomes vital.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Can't that be changed in option?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

The default for Excel 2013 is only one sheet for a workbook.
At 01:59 PM 1/18/2017, you wrote:
I use this all the time in Excel 2013, so the sheet change command is
still in the program. Perhaps something else is configured to those
keys, or as Dave suggested there might not be another sheet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Palmer Loux
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

No we were just trying to show our students how to change worksheet
pages which we could do easily in office 2010 Soon to be upgraded to
2013

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:21 PM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook
even have multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a
workbook the old command of control page up or down does not do that
thanks folks this is awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key
combination on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel
combination. You could map a different key combination in the Excel
keyboard manager, or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any
shortcuts for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename
Move or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a
sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H
followed by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet
to the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me
into the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down
menus are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows
7 machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell
is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the
column label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information
on a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and
sort? For sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a
column you are wanting to sort then pressing application key,
arrow to sort, right arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to
your choice For filtering information the video I have seen has
you going to top of column and clicking a drop down arrow which
can be visually challenging any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com








Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

I find data bases to be a pain.

Denver Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

That's way cool. I always wanted to have that option available, simply
because spreadsheets are easier to mess with than most databases.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

Hi Ann,

If I right click on a column header or use the Application Key or Shift+F10
and then arrow to sort and press enter on A to Z that column is sorted
alphabetically and all other columns are maintained. For example, if I have
a last name column, a first name column, one for address, city and phone
number and I sort the last name column A to Z the correct first name,
address, city and phone number is moved and stays with the last name it
belongs to. I do not have to select the entire range of the table to sort
correctly.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting

You want to be sure to sort the whole row, not just the column, so that all
the associated data follows your change. So if you sort the last name
column, but the first name column doesn't get sorted, the pieces won't
belong together.
At 02:45 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Ann,

Yes, but if you have the drop-down menus enabled on the column
headings, a sort from there will sort the entire column. We may be
talking at cross purposes here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:16
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel ... sorting


When you are sorting in Excel, you need to select the range of data to
be sorted, not just the column. If only a column is sorted, it will be
out of sync with the rest of the worksheet. So if you are sorting by
last name, and have Alan Allen, John Johnson, and Fred Frederick, and
sort only the lastn ame column you will end up with Alan allen, Fred
Johnson, and John Fredericks.

So.

1. Select the range you are sorting: f5, go to; first cell colon last
cell, enter. Now with it all selected, go to the ribbon and tell it
what you want to sort.

At 07:57 AM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on a
worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort, right
arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For filtering
information the video I have seen has you going to top of column and
clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually challenging any
other ideas?thanks, Palmer






Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Feliciano G
 

For what it's worth, I just went through this process on the Amazon app with iOS and had difficulties check in the box to choose refund through the process. When I double tapped on the refund check box, voiceover does not say that the box is checked. I had to get assistance to complete the process.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Jan 18, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Must be different on the canadian Amazon site since I have often returned items and I was able to very quickly process the return via the Amazon.ca website with Jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

I also just had a struggle with completing the return form for an Amazon product. I was not able to use JAWS to check which product I wanted to return, select the reason, and enter comments. These were not being recognized as links, combo boxes and edit fields.

I ended up trying NVDA, and was able to complete the process.

So, just a suggestion to others having difficulty with JAWS and returns on Amazon, you might consider trying NVDA for this process.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Poppa Bear [heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

This may have already been said, but I just call into the customer service. As long as I have the order number it has gone very smooth and very quick. I myself prefer talking to a human on the other line, it is a rare thing now a days.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Thanks, but had to give in and have my wife do it. I don't like to have to do that as we blind folk should be able to complete these tasks. Thanks again for taking the time on this and offering to help

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

1st let me clarify a mistake I made in an earlier post. There were 2 items in my last returned order. An Epson scanner & an extended warranty. From the order confirmation email there was an order link number for each item. I clicked on the link number pertaining to the scanner, & I was taken to the Amazon sign-in page where I signed in, so I'm assuming that was the regular website. From there I navigated by heading to this order, & from heere I used arrow keys to find the return option....

I can't reenact this return because they've already reimbursed me & I can't continue giving blow by blow steps. Sorry about that. I can tell you that I went through a few different screens to get it finished & get a return label printed up. If you want, send me your order confirmation email off list, & tell me what you want & I'll see if I can getter done for you.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Are you using the main site or accessibility one?

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

I believe that checkbox was checked because that was the only item in the order. The other checkboxes I mentioned couldn't be checked for whatever reason. I do have to say that everytime I use that freakin return webpage it's another freakin learning curve! LOL For the record, I'm runningWindows 7 & Jaws 16.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Thanks for sharing your experience. However, does not work for me that way here with Win 10 and latest IE explorer. When I go to the return center, either through the website directly or through the link in the email I got when ordering the product, I have a list of orders from most recent on top and in a descending list I then enter on the one I want and there is only one check box which JAWS announces as unchecked There is a continue button but it does not go anywhere until that box get checked. Possibly your order has many different things in it? The other thing I don't understand is how your checkbox got checked if you didn't do it?

This is all relatively new behavior over last couple of months. I used to return things all the time with absolutely no problems.

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

I just returned something the other day, & when I went to the page there were several checkboxes for the item I wanted to return, but as I arrowed down past a few checkboxes there was the item I wanted to return already checked. The checkboxes I arrowed past were only unchecked checkboxes, & it was the 4th or 5th checkbox down that had the products name, & Jaws reported checkbox checked.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hello,

Has anyone found a way to process a return on the Amazon.com site. I used to do it all the time but they must have changed something on the site and I cannot check the box of the item I want to return and proceed from there. Very frustrating. I have tried with both JAWS 17 & 18

Al







Re: a strange firefox problem

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, I have the same problem but, I get stuck on a web address. I have all kinds of tabs but, as soon as I get to audible.com for example, it stays there no matter what I do,. Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a strange firefox problem

Yes, I have also seen this with Firefox.

You might put Jaws into manual forms mode, so that when you get to an edit field, you just hit enter, and can add the needed text, and tab to the next field from there.

At least, this is what I have found to work in these situations.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a strange firefox problem

Hey guys,

I'm running jfw 17, and am having a very interesting issue with firefox.
If i go to enter a user name on a web page, i'll tab to the password field, and if i keep tabbing, it'll keep saying password edit, and won't go any further, until i press the escape key to get out of forms mode.
Any idea why this is happening, anyone ever seen this?

Cheers,
Jed


Re: a strange firefox problem

Tom Behler
 

Yes, I have also seen this with Firefox.

You might put Jaws into manual forms mode, so that when you get to an edit field, you just hit enter, and can add the needed text, and tab to the next field from there.

At least, this is what I have found to work in these situations.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a strange firefox problem

Hey guys,

I'm running jfw 17, and am having a very interesting issue with firefox.
If i go to enter a user name on a web page, i'll tab to the password field, and if i keep tabbing, it'll keep saying password edit, and won't go any further, until i press the escape key to get out of forms mode.
Any idea why this is happening, anyone ever seen this?

Cheers,
Jed


Re: JFW on ssd laptop won't recognize TripleTalk

Marsha <marcatony@...>
 

Jaws's bad behavior    Hi
  I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16.  Recently Jaws has been behaving very badly.  It jumps all over the place.  It opens a different message when I want to read it, perhaps not a Jaws Issue?  There have been at least two times whem suddenly there were two instances of Jaws reading at the same time.  Does anyone have these problems?  Thanks for any help you can give me.

Marsha


Re: Jaws use with Excel

 

Sorry, but that is what I meant, Pablo, Control+Shift+S not Jaws Key+Shift+S which opf course is for bringing up a list of voice profiles.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

No, it is no the keystroke. You need to press control+shift+S, then you will get the list of sheets.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

I agree, Control+PageDown and Control+PageUp work for me whereas sometimes for no reason Jaws Key+Control+S does not bring up a list of available sheets. This seems to be intermittent because for the same workbook it usually works but sometimes it doesn't.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook even have multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a workbook the old command of control page up or down does not do that thanks folks this is awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key combination
on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel combination. You
could map a different key combination in the Excel keyboard manager,
or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any shortcuts
for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename Move
or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H followed
by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet to
the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me into
the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down menus
are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows 7
machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the column
label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on
a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort, right
arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For filtering
information the video I have seen has you going to top of column
and clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually challenging
any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


























Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

 

Must be different on the canadian Amazon site since I have often returned items and I was able to very quickly process the return via the Amazon.ca website with Jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

I also just had a struggle with completing the return form for an Amazon product. I was not able to use JAWS to check which product I wanted to return, select the reason, and enter comments. These were not being recognized as links, combo boxes and edit fields.

I ended up trying NVDA, and was able to complete the process.

So, just a suggestion to others having difficulty with JAWS and returns on Amazon, you might consider trying NVDA for this process.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Poppa Bear [heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

This may have already been said, but I just call into the customer service. As long as I have the order number it has gone very smooth and very quick. I myself prefer talking to a human on the other line, it is a rare thing now a days.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Thanks, but had to give in and have my wife do it. I don't like to have to do that as we blind folk should be able to complete these tasks. Thanks again for taking the time on this and offering to help

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

1st let me clarify a mistake I made in an earlier post. There were 2 items in my last returned order. An Epson scanner & an extended warranty. From the order confirmation email there was an order link number for each item. I clicked on the link number pertaining to the scanner, & I was taken to the Amazon sign-in page where I signed in, so I'm assuming that was the regular website. From there I navigated by heading to this order, & from heere I used arrow keys to find the return option....

I can't reenact this return because they've already reimbursed me & I can't continue giving blow by blow steps. Sorry about that. I can tell you that I went through a few different screens to get it finished & get a return label printed up. If you want, send me your order confirmation email off list, & tell me what you want & I'll see if I can getter done for you.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Are you using the main site or accessibility one?

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

I believe that checkbox was checked because that was the only item in the order. The other checkboxes I mentioned couldn't be checked for whatever reason. I do have to say that everytime I use that freakin return webpage it's another freakin learning curve! LOL For the record, I'm runningWindows 7 & Jaws 16.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Thanks for sharing your experience. However, does not work for me that way here with Win 10 and latest IE explorer. When I go to the return center, either through the website directly or through the link in the email I got when ordering the product, I have a list of orders from most recent on top and in a descending list I then enter on the one I want and there is only one check box which JAWS announces as unchecked There is a continue button but it does not go anywhere until that box get checked. Possibly your order has many different things in it? The other thing I don't understand is how your checkbox got checked if you didn't do it?

This is all relatively new behavior over last couple of months. I used to return things all the time with absolutely no problems.

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

I just returned something the other day, & when I went to the page there were several checkboxes for the item I wanted to return, but as I arrowed down past a few checkboxes there was the item I wanted to return already checked. The checkboxes I arrowed past were only unchecked checkboxes, & it was the 4th or 5th checkbox down that had the products name, & Jaws reported checkbox checked.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hello,

Has anyone found a way to process a return on the Amazon.com site. I used to do it all the time but they must have changed something on the site and I cannot check the box of the item I want to return and proceed from there. Very frustrating. I have tried with both JAWS 17 & 18

Al


Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave...
 

Can't that be changed in option?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

The default for Excel 2013 is only one sheet for a workbook.
At 01:59 PM 1/18/2017, you wrote:
I use this all the time in Excel 2013, so the sheet change command is still
in the program. Perhaps something else is configured to those keys, or as
Dave suggested there might not be another sheet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Palmer
Loux
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

No we were just trying to show our students how to change worksheet pages
which we could do easily in office 2010 Soon to be upgraded to 2013

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:21 PM, "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook
even have multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a workbook
the old command of control page up or down does not do that thanks
folks this is awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key combination
on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel combination. You
could map a different key combination in the Excel keyboard manager,
or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any shortcuts
for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename
Move or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H
followed by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet
to the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me into
the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down menus
are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows 7
machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell
is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the column
label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on
a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort,
right arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For
filtering information the video I have seen has you going to top
of column and clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually
challenging any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com








Re: Jaws use with Excel

Ann Byrne
 

The default for Excel 2013 is only one sheet for a workbook.

At 01:59 PM 1/18/2017, you wrote:
I use this all the time in Excel 2013, so the sheet change command is still
in the program. Perhaps something else is configured to those keys, or as
Dave suggested there might not be another sheet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Palmer
Loux
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

No we were just trying to show our students how to change worksheet pages
which we could do easily in office 2010 Soon to be upgraded to 2013

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:21 PM, "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook
even have multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a workbook
the old command of control page up or down does not do that thanks
folks this is awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key combination
on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel combination. You
could map a different key combination in the Excel keyboard manager,
or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any shortcuts
for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename
Move or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H
followed by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet
to the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me into
the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down menus
are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows 7
machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell
is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the column
label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on
a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort,
right arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For
filtering information the video I have seen has you going to top
of column and clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually
challenging any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com








a strange firefox problem

Jed Barton
 

Hey guys,

I'm running jfw 17, and am having a very interesting issue with firefox. If i go to enter a user name on a web page, i'll tab to the password field, and if i keep tabbing, it'll keep saying password edit, and won't go any further, until i press the escape key to get out of forms mode. Any idea why this is happening, anyone ever seen this?

Cheers,
Jed


Re: Jaws use with Excel

Pablo Morales
 

No, it is no the keystroke. You need to press control+shift+S, then you will
get the list of sheets.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

I agree, Control+PageDown and Control+PageUp work for me whereas sometimes
for no reason Jaws Key+Control+S does not bring up a list of available
sheets. This seems to be intermittent because for the same workbook it
usually works but sometimes it doesn't.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Palmer,

No reason why those keystrokes should not work. Does that workbook even have
multiple sheets?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Palmer Loux" <Plmrlx@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 09:03
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Ok we are having trouble with getting to the next sheet in a workbook the
old command of control page up or down does not do that thanks folks this is
awesome info gathering!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

George,

It's likely that there is another assignment to that key combination
on the laptop that is interfering with the Excel combination. You
could map a different key combination in the Excel keyboard manager,
or reassign the one that's conflicting.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 08:21
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Well using a laptop with the caps lock used as jaws key / insert it
does not work

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: January 18, 2017 08:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

It does work for me. Jaws Key which is the Insert or Zero on the
Numpad pressed together with the Shift key and then an "S" as in
"Sheet". Also pretty easy to remember.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
george b
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Dave,

That did not work for me in excel 2016

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: January 17, 2017 20:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Sieghard,

Use the JAWS shortcut JAWS + Shift + S to bring up a menu of
copy/move/insert/rename/protect/hide sheets.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 17:58
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


How about renaming, moving/copying or deleting a sheet? Any shortcuts
for that?
Here are the ribbon shortcuts:
Rename sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" for Format and "R" for rename Move
or copy sheet: Alt+H followed by "O" and "M"
Delete sheet: Alt+H followed by "D" for delete and "S" for sheet
Insert
sheet: Alt+H followed by "I" for insert and "S" or, as previously
mentioned,
Shift+F11

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

Cool. Either I never knew this, or did in my younger days and
completely forgot. Appreciate the tip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 15:15
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


shift+f11 creates a sheet.
At 04:31 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
Sieghard,

I use 2007 and I also use the Alt + h then i then s to insert a sheet.

Don't think F6 creates a sheet - not sure where that came from.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 13:44
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


What version of Excel do you use? F6 doesn't add a new sheet to a
workbook for me (I am using Excel 2016). I have to use Alt+H followed
by "I" for insert and "S" for Sheet.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

And how do you focus on the headers row?

The arrows don't do that, neither does tab and f6 adds a new sheet to
the workbook.

On 1/17/17, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Give it a couple tries. I find that the keystroke can dump me into
the ribbon, but when I escape from the ribbon, the drop down menus
are there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 08:18
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


Good thing you mentioned this because Alt+Shift+L doesn't do
anything in Excel 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel

...and I should point out that I'm using Excel 2007 on a Windows 7
machine,

if that has any bearing on different experiences.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:59
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


There is another approach that is pretty easy, and is good if you
expect to filter a column more often than once.

When focused on the row of column headers (any column header cell is
fine) Press Alt+Shift+L. Now each column title will announce the
title and "auto filter drop down". When on the column of choice,
press
Alt+DownArrow to bring up a list of filters and sorts you can
Alt+perform
on
that column.

To turn off that feature, press Ctrl+Shift+L on any of the column
titles.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 07:42
Subject: Re: Jaws use with Excel


I am not aware of any method easier for the blind than the
applications key. You are certainly right that clicking the column
label is not particularly easy for us.

On 1/17/17, Palmer Loux <Plmrlx@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question relating to sorting and filtering information on
a worksheet with JAWS is there an easy way to filter and sort? For
sorting I am thinking putting focus in a cell in a column you are
wanting to sort then pressing application key, arrow to sort, right
arrow to sub menu and then down arrow to your choice For filtering
information the video I have seen has you going to top of column
and clicking a drop down arrow which can be visually challenging
any other ideas?thanks, Palmer

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


























Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

I also just had a struggle with completing the return form for an Amazon product. I was not able to use JAWS to check which product I wanted to return, select the reason, and enter comments. These were not being recognized as links, combo boxes and edit fields.

I ended up trying NVDA, and was able to complete the process.

So, just a suggestion to others having difficulty with JAWS and returns on Amazon, you might consider trying NVDA for this process.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Poppa Bear [heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

This may have already been said, but I just call into the customer service. As long as I have the order number it has gone very smooth and very quick. I myself prefer talking to a human on the other line, it is a rare thing now a days.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Thanks, but had to give in and have my wife do it. I don’t like to have to do that as we blind folk should be able to complete these tasks. Thanks again for taking the time on this and offering to help

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

1st let me clarify a mistake I made in an earlier post. There were 2 items in my last returned order. An Epson scanner & an extended warranty. From the order confirmation email there was an order link number for each item. I clicked on the link number pertaining to the scanner, & I was taken to the Amazon sign-in page where I signed in, so I'm assuming that was the regular website. From there I navigated by heading to this order, & from heere I used arrow keys to find the return option....

I can't reenact this return because they've already reimbursed me & I can't continue giving blow by blow steps. Sorry about that. I can tell you that I went through a few different screens to get it finished & get a return label printed up. If you want, send me your order confirmation email off list, & tell me what you want & I'll see if I can getter done for you.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Are you using the main site or accessibility one?

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

I believe that checkbox was checked because that was the only item in the order. The other checkboxes I mentioned couldn't be checked for whatever reason. I do have to say that everytime I use that freakin return webpage it's another freakin learning curve! LOL For the record, I'm runningWindows 7 & Jaws 16.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Mike,

Thanks for sharing your experience. However, does not work for me that way here with Win 10 and latest IE explorer. When I go to the return center, either through the website directly or through the link in the email I got when ordering the product, I have a list of orders from most recent on top and in a descending list I then enter on the one I want and there is only one check box which JAWS announces as unchecked There is a continue button but it does not go anywhere until that box get checked. Possibly your order has many different things in it? The other thing I don’t understand is how your checkbox got checked if you didn’t do it?

This is all relatively new behavior over last couple of months. I used to return things all the time with absolutely no problems.

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hi Al,

I just returned something the other day, & when I went to the page there were several checkboxes for the item I wanted to return, but as I arrowed down past a few checkboxes there was the item I wanted to return already checked. The checkboxes I arrowed past were only unchecked checkboxes, & it was the 4th or 5th checkbox down that had the products name, & Jaws reported checkbox checked.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Robbins<mailto:alan1057@me.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Accessibility of Amazon return center

Hello,

Has anyone found a way to process a return on the Amazon.com site. I used to do it all the time but they must have changed something on the site and I cannot check the box of the item I want to return and proceed from there. Very frustrating. I have tried with both JAWS 17 & 18

Al