Hey Gene.
So, I'm just curious -- if the method of accessign jaws works as expected, why restart jaws just to get it to appear int eh tray?
Funny, this thread inspired me to actually look and -- I can't find JAWS in my system tray either. Now that I think about it, I don't remember the last time when I noticed it there. I guess it's been like that for yearsa nd I never even noticed anything strange. Is this just one of those computer niggles that you simply must figure out the reasoning behind a nd solve? I've certainly been there.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 22, 2022 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon
Insert+J works as expected.
Gene...
On 8/22/2022 12:50 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hm.
Don't know about this problem, but kind of wondering, what happens when you hit insert+j to access the JAWS menu? Since the application is loaded and working, I assume all its commands also work? I never go to the system tray toaccess JAWS features, I just keep it there so it's not runnings a window all the time.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 22, 2022 12:24 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...

Hm.
Don't know about this problem, but kind of wondering, what happens when you hit insert+j to access the JAWS menu? Since the application is loaded and working, I assume all its commands also work? I never go to the system tray toaccess JAWS features, I just keep it there so it's not runnings a window all the time.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 22, 2022 12:24 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...

Hey Dave.
Not sure you’ll get much in the way of specific thoughts here. I think most people just buy whatever’s convenient, plug in, and expect it to work. Nonetheless, this page seems a good place to start. Takea  look at the suggestions here.
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Greetings, I have a Dell desktop and am overdue for creating a backup.

All advice and product recommendations welcome.

Happy Monday, Mitch

Sent from Mail for Windows

Hm.
Don't know about this problem, but kind of wondering, what happens when you hit insert+j to access the JAWS menu? Since the application is loaded and working, I assume all its commands also work? I never go to the system tray toaccess JAWS features, I just keep it there so it's not runnings a window all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 22, 2022 12:24 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon
Hi everyone!
This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.
When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!
I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.
Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.
Thanks!
Gene...

Gene:
Insert space then F4 if running the most current update to JAWS.
One work-around that I have tried goes like this.
First, ensure JAWS is not set to start up at any time with the possible exception of the login screen.
Second, copy the JAWS shortcut into your Startup folder. You get to this folder with the Run command: shell:startup. Press Windows 4, type shell:startup, then press Enter.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon
Is there a JAWS restart command? I have to unload JAWS as the first
step, then reload it as the second. It would be nice if I could do it as
a single step.
Gene...
On 8/22/2022 12:36 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:

Hello Gene:

Unfortunately, you may have to do a JAWS recycle after startup every time. This, at least, is the issue I am facing on my Windows 10 system. Fortunately, it is now quite easy (albeit inconvenient) to do this every time.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows
loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I
also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even
though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit
JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no
icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already
tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...

Hello Gene:

Unfortunately, you may have to do a JAWS recycle after startup every time. This, at least, is the issue I am facing on my Windows 10 system. Fortunately, it is now quite easy (albeit inconvenient) to do this every time.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows
loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I
also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even
though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit
JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no
icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already
tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...

Hello Gene:
Unfortunately, you may have to do a JAWS recycle after startup every time. This, at least, is the issue I am facing on my Windows 10 system. Fortunately, it is now quite easy (albeit inconvenient) to do this every time.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon
Hi everyone!
This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows
loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I
also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.
When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even
though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit
JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!
I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no
icons should be hidden.
Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already
tried doing a repair install.
Thanks!
Gene...

Yes, I have been experiencing the problem you describe and I have found the only way to resolve the problem to have JAWS show up in the System Tray is to restart JAWS.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:24 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon
Hi everyone!
This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.
When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!
I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.
Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.
Thanks!
Gene...

Hello all, this is Michael.

Recently I experienced a problem on my Pc. The shift key is not working as expected. When I try to perform a command that involve the shift key, it completed ignored it. For example, when I try to perform the command to go to task bar by pressing Shift CTRL and Escape, it thought I performed CTRL with Escape, so it brought up Windows start menu instead. The shift key is the vital part of the Windows and Jaws keyboard commands, so without the Shift key, it can mean a whole different thing.

I tried to resolve the issue, but nothing worked. I Cleaned the keyboard with compressed air, and I even resettled my laptop just to make sure the software is not causing the problem, and nothing worked. When I finished resetting the computer, the shift key still won’t work. Instead, just one shift key not working, both went out at the same time.

Please let me know if you are also experiencing the same issue with your computer.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. Munn

Hi,
Smart screen is quite annoying but accessible. At least here - Windows 11, Microsoft Edge, JAWS 2022. I remember that it Worked on Windows 10 with JAWS 2021 too.
Steps to keep the downloaded file:
After downloading the file press CTRL+J (list of Downloaded files )
Move with arrow keys to the downloaded file entry
Open context menu (SHFT+F10 or Application key)
Move in the context menu to the choice Keep or something similar, press Enter. I use a different language. Sorry if I translated it incorrectly
Tab to button More choices, press space bar
Tab to button Keep anyway, press space bar.
I hope that helped you a bit.
Artur
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 5:07 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: problems with smart screen
Hi everyone!
I have been dealing with this problem for a long time and have never gotten any useful assistance from Vispero.
I just downloaded an audio game from Spoonbill Software, or tried to anyway. Then Smart Screen pops up and says that this file isn't downloaded very oftern and that it might harm my computer. I have downloaded games from Spoonbill in the past and never had any problems, So I tried to tell it to keep the file, but it still keeps throwing the warning and won't let me have the file, eventually I get a keep anyway button and click it but still it keeps complaining and I'm back at the keep button. And around and around I go never getting it to actually do as I keep telling it. I finally found a way around it by opening File explorrer, in the folder where I wanted the downloaded file I found an uncomfirmed download file, so I renamed it to the file I was downloading and exited Edge.
Has anyone ever figured out how to get Smart Screen to actually work? I am wondering if this is something that JAWS doesn't support very well and that is why I am having all this trouble.
Thanks!
Gene...