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Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

It just strikes me as strange that a Screen reader developer like VFO would have an installer that requires the use of the touch cursor to read the dialog box if useing Jaws 18 for the install.:)

On 9/1/2017 2:39 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

I actually ran the install self-voicing.  It gave the 25% increment indicators.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 5:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

 

If you use your prevous Jaws to do the install yu have to use the touch cursor to read the progress and dialog box...
On 9/1/2017 2:19 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

I have verified that JAWS2018 works with Edge in the stable Creator’s edition of Windows 10.  I did have the Insider build installed and experienced problems with Edge support, so I reverted back to the stable release.

 

I have also noticed problems with the Windows 10 mail program’s reading pane not updating, such that, when you read your first message, then try to read any additional ones, you still get the first message read to you.  However, the screen shows the right thing.

 

I have reported this, and I imagine others have.

 

I wouldn’t be quick to say that the final release of JAWS 2018 will not work with ‘Edge in the Fall Creators’ update, as I imagine they are working on that, and, this is, after all, only the first beta.

 

I will say that I like the new installer.  It is self-voicing.  They tell you to press ctrl-p to hear the agreement and it plays an audio file.  Other than that, it is easier to install JAWS, although the time it takes to actually perform the install seems about the same.  I installed it over a previous version of JAWS and did a stand-alone install.  I got the migration wizard automatically and it performed well.

 

Haven’t tried OCR yet.  Got to find some files to try it with.

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 



Re: Jaws2018 OCR

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

There is an easier way that I stumbled upon as saving as anything didn’t appear to be an option.

 

I used the application key to bring up the context menu.

Arrowed down to select all and hit enter.

Then, application key again and arrow to copy and hit enter.

Then, go to Word, or whatever editor you wish to use and do control+v to paste.

 

There it is.

In Word, the thing I first tested pasted as a table.

So did the second page, but it is in a list format.  Pasting it into a plain text editor just had lots of extra line breaks.

 

This is not bad.

I hope they end up adding more OCr features like adding pages to a document, etc.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2018 OCR

 

I would think you would save the scan as a jpg file then perform the Jaws OCR on it.  Least that is what worked for me.

 

On 9/1/2017 4:54 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I installed the beta on my Win 10 1703 machine and the settings migrated fine after getting sighted help since the beta wasn’t talking …

 

My main interest is in the OCr using a flatbed scanner since Openbook does not work on this system and FS seems to have left it in the lurch.

 

I successfully scanned a page with my Cannon LIDE 110 scanner.

However, what can you do with that text once you have done the scan?

 

There doesn’t seem to be any options other than maybe copying and pasting it somewhere, but if that is the case, I’ll just use my iPhone with Seeing AI.

 

Richard

 

 


Re: Jaws2018 OCR

Jason White
 

One of the new features in JAWS 2018 is the ability to take images directly from scanners and cameras. See the release notes for details.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 6:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2018 OCR

 

Hi!

That is what I did as well. Once you save it as a JPG file! Just press applications or shift+F10 and arrow down to recognize with JAWS, and JAWS will bring up a virtual document that you can read, copy from, and perform commands for a virtual document. This is beautiful!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2018 OCR

 

I would think you would save the scan as a jpg file then perform the Jaws OCR on it.  Least that is what worked for me.

 

On 9/1/2017 4:54 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I installed the beta on my Win 10 1703 machine and the settings migrated fine after getting sighted help since the beta wasn’t talking …

 

My main interest is in the OCr using a flatbed scanner since Openbook does not work on this system and FS seems to have left it in the lurch.

 

I successfully scanned a page with my Cannon LIDE 110 scanner.

However, what can you do with that text once you have done the scan?

 

There doesn’t seem to be any options other than maybe copying and pasting it somewhere, but if that is the case, I’ll just use my iPhone with Seeing AI.

 

Richard

 

 

 


Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

David Moore
 

Hi, That is what it did for me.

JAWS told me the status every 25 percent, and it took about ten minutes!

I was able to import my settings from version 18.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

 

I actually ran the install self-voicing.  It gave the 25% increment indicators.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 5:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

 

If you use your prevous Jaws to do the install yu have to use the touch cursor to read the progress and dialog box...
On 9/1/2017 2:19 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

I have verified that JAWS2018 works with Edge in the stable Creator’s edition of Windows 10.  I did have the Insider build installed and experienced problems with Edge support, so I reverted back to the stable release.

 

I have also noticed problems with the Windows 10 mail program’s reading pane not updating, such that, when you read your first message, then try to read any additional ones, you still get the first message read to you.  However, the screen shows the right thing.

 

I have reported this, and I imagine others have.

 

I wouldn’t be quick to say that the final release of JAWS 2018 will not work with ‘Edge in the Fall Creators’ update, as I imagine they are working on that, and, this is, after all, only the first beta.

 

I will say that I like the new installer.  It is self-voicing.  They tell you to press ctrl-p to hear the agreement and it plays an audio file.  Other than that, it is easier to install JAWS, although the time it takes to actually perform the install seems about the same.  I installed it over a previous version of JAWS and did a stand-alone install.  I got the migration wizard automatically and it performed well.

 

Haven’t tried OCR yet.  Got to find some files to try it with.

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: Jaws2018 OCR

David Moore
 

Hi!

That is what I did as well. Once you save it as a JPG file! Just press applications or shift+F10 and arrow down to recognize with JAWS, and JAWS will bring up a virtual document that you can read, copy from, and perform commands for a virtual document. This is beautiful!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2018 OCR

 

I would think you would save the scan as a jpg file then perform the Jaws OCR on it.  Least that is what worked for me.

 

On 9/1/2017 4:54 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I installed the beta on my Win 10 1703 machine and the settings migrated fine after getting sighted help since the beta wasn’t talking …

 

My main interest is in the OCr using a flatbed scanner since Openbook does not work on this system and FS seems to have left it in the lurch.

 

I successfully scanned a page with my Cannon LIDE 110 scanner.

However, what can you do with that text once you have done the scan?

 

There doesn’t seem to be any options other than maybe copying and pasting it somewhere, but if that is the case, I’ll just use my iPhone with Seeing AI.

 

Richard

 

 

 


Re: Jaws2018 OCR

Don H
 

I would think you would save the scan as a jpg file then perform the Jaws OCR on it.  Least that is what worked for me.


On 9/1/2017 4:54 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I installed the beta on my Win 10 1703 machine and the settings migrated fine after getting sighted help since the beta wasn’t talking …

 

My main interest is in the OCr using a flatbed scanner since Openbook does not work on this system and FS seems to have left it in the lurch.

 

I successfully scanned a page with my Cannon LIDE 110 scanner.

However, what can you do with that text once you have done the scan?

 

There doesn’t seem to be any options other than maybe copying and pasting it somewhere, but if that is the case, I’ll just use my iPhone with Seeing AI.

 

Richard

 



Jaws2018 OCR

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I installed the beta on my Win 10 1703 machine and the settings migrated fine after getting sighted help since the beta wasn’t talking …

 

My main interest is in the OCr using a flatbed scanner since Openbook does not work on this system and FS seems to have left it in the lurch.

 

I successfully scanned a page with my Cannon LIDE 110 scanner.

However, what can you do with that text once you have done the scan?

 

There doesn’t seem to be any options other than maybe copying and pasting it somewhere, but if that is the case, I’ll just use my iPhone with Seeing AI.

 

Richard

 


Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

Joseph Norton
 

I actually ran the install self-voicing.  It gave the 25% increment indicators.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 5:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

 

If you use your prevous Jaws to do the install yu have to use the touch cursor to read the progress and dialog box...
On 9/1/2017 2:19 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

I have verified that JAWS2018 works with Edge in the stable Creator’s edition of Windows 10.  I did have the Insider build installed and experienced problems with Edge support, so I reverted back to the stable release.

 

I have also noticed problems with the Windows 10 mail program’s reading pane not updating, such that, when you read your first message, then try to read any additional ones, you still get the first message read to you.  However, the screen shows the right thing.

 

I have reported this, and I imagine others have.

 

I wouldn’t be quick to say that the final release of JAWS 2018 will not work with ‘Edge in the Fall Creators’ update, as I imagine they are working on that, and, this is, after all, only the first beta.

 

I will say that I like the new installer.  It is self-voicing.  They tell you to press ctrl-p to hear the agreement and it plays an audio file.  Other than that, it is easier to install JAWS, although the time it takes to actually perform the install seems about the same.  I installed it over a previous version of JAWS and did a stand-alone install.  I got the migration wizard automatically and it performed well.

 

Haven’t tried OCR yet.  Got to find some files to try it with.

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: JAWS 2018 and Edge

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

If you use your prevous Jaws to do the install yu have to use the touch cursor to read the progress and dialog box...

On 9/1/2017 2:19 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

I have verified that JAWS2018 works with Edge in the stable Creator’s edition of Windows 10.  I did have the Insider build installed and experienced problems with Edge support, so I reverted back to the stable release.

 

I have also noticed problems with the Windows 10 mail program’s reading pane not updating, such that, when you read your first message, then try to read any additional ones, you still get the first message read to you.  However, the screen shows the right thing.

 

I have reported this, and I imagine others have.

 

I wouldn’t be quick to say that the final release of JAWS 2018 will not work with ‘Edge in the Fall Creators’ update, as I imagine they are working on that, and, this is, after all, only the first beta.

 

I will say that I like the new installer.  It is self-voicing.  They tell you to press ctrl-p to hear the agreement and it plays an audio file.  Other than that, it is easier to install JAWS, although the time it takes to actually perform the install seems about the same.  I installed it over a previous version of JAWS and did a stand-alone install.  I got the migration wizard automatically and it performed well.

 

Haven’t tried OCR yet.  Got to find some files to try it with.

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: newbee confusion

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Don,

Yes, any version of Jaws you install has its own instance. I think this is one of the really good features of Jaws, you could have Jaws 16, 17, 18 and the Beta oif 2018 installed and use any of these versions independently. Especially with beta versions this is good because there are of course often still significatn bugs which need to be fixed and this way you can use whatever version you had before and which you are familiar with in addition to testing the beta version when you want.
Keep in mind that beta versions are called this for a reason and you won't get tech support from regular FS phone support, you have to submit any feedback using the bug report form on the FS website.
Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: newbee confusion

I am a newbee with Jaws beta releases.  So when you install the beta do you now have two versions of Jaws installed?  I see on my desktop my old shortcut for Jaws 18 and now a jaws 2018 shortcut. I have the control alt j shortcut for starting jaws on the Jaws 18 so when I hit control alt j Jaws 18 starts.  So that is why I could not get OCR to work.  If I load Jaws with the Jaws 2018 shortcut it seems that OCR works great. Sorry for my confusion.


JAWS 2018 and Edge

Joseph Norton
 

I have verified that JAWS2018 works with Edge in the stable Creator’s edition of Windows 10.  I did have the Insider build installed and experienced problems with Edge support, so I reverted back to the stable release.

 

I have also noticed problems with the Windows 10 mail program’s reading pane not updating, such that, when you read your first message, then try to read any additional ones, you still get the first message read to you.  However, the screen shows the right thing.

 

I have reported this, and I imagine others have.

 

I wouldn’t be quick to say that the final release of JAWS 2018 will not work with ‘Edge in the Fall Creators’ update, as I imagine they are working on that, and, this is, after all, only the first beta.

 

I will say that I like the new installer.  It is self-voicing.  They tell you to press ctrl-p to hear the agreement and it plays an audio file.  Other than that, it is easier to install JAWS, although the time it takes to actually perform the install seems about the same.  I installed it over a previous version of JAWS and did a stand-alone install.  I got the migration wizard automatically and it performed well.

 

Haven’t tried OCR yet.  Got to find some files to try it with.

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Word 2016 and Jaws 18

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Bob,

 

I don’t know if a possible solution has been offered, but when you save the document in Office2016 using the “Save as” saving option, the F12 key, as you tab around the dialogue box there is a check box asking Office2016 to keep compatibility with previous versions of office.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Hicks
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Word 2016 and Jaws 18

 

I have a file I created here at work in Word 2013.  I tried to work on the file at home using Word 2016 on/at home in Word 2016.  I have installed the office converter patch.  I can make changes on the file at home, but when I bring it to work the changes I saved at home are not there.  What gives?  thanks

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 


Re: Edge and Jaws 2018

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Yes it has been determined that Jaws will not work with Edge in the upcoming release in its current form.

On 9/1/2017 5:00 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
I tried Edge and it's working here without any of the problems you mentioned.

I'm running Windows 1703 (Build 15063.540).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws 2018

Hi, I installed Jaws 2018 and tried to use Edge. Jaws is not working in edge. It starts in the address bar and when I tab it seems to cycle through the buttons very slowly. I cant seem to scroll through a web page either. It also crashs and unloads completely without restarting. Is it just me or are you all having similar problems?
I am running Win 10 v16278






Re: jaws 2018 issues

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

You have to use the touch cursor to do that. The migration wizzard popped up after the restart
on one PC but not until I unloaded and reloaded Jaws on the second PC. Also Edge support does not work on the insider builds. Witch is being released soon so I am not sure how this is going to be helpful in the future.On 9/1/2017 2:46 AM, marvin hunkin wrote:

Hi. Gave me an error when I tried to migrate my settings, had to do it again and imported. Would not read the dialog in the install with insert b, so you can report this on the freedom scientific beta form, which I am going to do now. Have not used edge, but will try, thanks.


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Re: FW: [win10] Critical advisory: do NOT update to Fall Creators Update if you plan to use JAWS 2018 with Edge due to performance problems

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I will do as you ask. But why is this considered by MS and VFO to be acceptable? It has been years now and still no working Edge support for 1709 and very limited basic functionality for 1703. As you say the OS and UWP are useing the Edge rendering engine more and more and we are Just left out completly!
People get on me for "hating on" MS and VFO but what I was warning everyone about is happening.

On 8/31/2017 10:21 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> > Hi all, > > For those testing JAWS 2018 (especially those testing support for > Edge) and if you happen to be a Windows Insider (or thought about > upgrading to upcoming Fall Creators Update), be sure to read the > below notice to the end, as it WILL affect everyone at one point or > another. Thanks. > > > > *From:* win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On > Behalf Of *Joseph Lee *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:18 PM > *To:* win10@win10.groups.io



newbee confusion

Don H
 

I am a newbee with Jaws beta releases.  So when you install the beta do you now have two versions of Jaws installed?  I see on my desktop my old shortcut for Jaws 18 and now a jaws 2018 shortcut. I have the control alt j shortcut for starting jaws on the Jaws 18 so when I hit control alt j Jaws 18 starts.  So that is why I could not get OCR to work.  If I load Jaws with the Jaws 2018 shortcut it seems that OCR works great.  Sorry for my confusion.


Punctuation settings for different voice profiles

Sameer
 

 
Dear List Members,
 
Kindly inform me if the Punctuation settings made through Settings Manager are specific to a particular voice profile or are they common across all voice profiles?
 
I had set the Punctuation settings to read quotation marks when the punctuation level was “All” while I was using the Eloquence voice profile. But when I switched to the Vocaliser Expressive voice profile, the quotation marks were being read even when the punctuation level was set to “Most”.
 
Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.
 
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


Re: Jaws 2018 Question

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Make sure your outlook window is always maxed.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: September 1, 2017 5:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Question

 

I am using Outlook 2007.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 4:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 Question

 

You need to tell us what email client you're using please thank you

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 1, 2017, at 04:00, Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...> wrote:

In my mail messages jaws says 99 1 2017.

I want it to say, September 1, 2017.

How do I make this change?

Thanks,

 

Pastor Gil


Re: Kindle Keyboard Commands with Jaws 18

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Try using Alt+Down Arrow for JAWS to read a sentence.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Keyboard Commands with Jaws 18

Don't know if this will work with Kindle, but the reading
commands are located in the Jaws help under Keyboard
commands. Try and use Insert key plus left or right arrow to
read prier or next word, or Insert key to read by Prier line
which is up arrow, or next line which is down arrow.

Would also suggest checking out to see if Jaws will work
with Kindle through a Google search.

Hope this helps.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Kindle Keyboard Commands with Jaws 18



Hello -

I am new to Jaws, having migrated from Window-Eyes. Using
Jaws 18 I was attempting to read and study a book on my
Kindle with accessibility plug-in. To my dismay the keyboard
commands I am accustomed to using with WE 9.5.4 and Kindle
to navigate reading do not produce the expected results. For
example, Read Previous sentence

CTRL Shift Up Arrow (or Left Arrow) does not read anything
but announces "selected." Is an alternate set of keyboard
commands available for reading with Kindle and Jaws 18?
Please direct me to a URL or send me a list of keyboard
commands off-list if you have such a list in a file on your
computer.

Thanks - Ed Culpepper


Jaws 2018 Question

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

I fixed my problem.

 

I was playing with the date settings and fixed what was going on.

 

Pastor Gil

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