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moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

Gerald Levy
 


Install Ditto, a neat little utility that stores all previous clipboard clips for easy access and retrieval.  Totally JAWS accessible:


https://ditto-cp.sourceforge.io/


Gerald



On 3/11/2022 2:07 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
Hello All,

Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard, specifically previous items?

Thanks,
Tim Ford









moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

Mike Pietruk
 

In addition to what Curtis has mentioned, there are programs out there
that can be used to extend the storage of the clipboard.
The one I've used for years is called Ditto.
To learn more about Ditto, do a google search for
"ditto" + "clipboard extender"
and this will give one abundant info.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Tim:

Insert space followed by the letter c will display the last text copied to the clipboard. If you want a clipboard history, you hve to turn on Windows 10 Smart Paste feature.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing clipboard texts.

Hello All,

Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard, specifically previous items?

Thanks,
Tim Ford















moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Bill White
 

Hi, Curtis. I'm glad Kimber's problem is resolved. I would still be interested to know if Kimber is using the one-year license, or the older, 2-year license, since it is mainly the users of the one-year license that have been experiencing the problem which Kimber mentioned.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hello Bill:

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Bill:

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Truncated speech from JAWS

Curtis Chong
 

Paul:

 

The answer is quite simple really.

 

First, go into the JAWS Settings Center with INSERT+6.

 

Next, press CTRL+SHIFT+D.

 

Third, type avoid. Results will pop up. Arrow down to “Avoid speech cut off when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards”. Ensure it is checked.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Truncated speech from JAWS

 

Hello Listers,

I recently purchased a new Lenovo I5 PC with Windows 10. When I issue a JAWS command, after not having done so for a few seconds, the first syllable or character of the spoken response gets truncated. How can I correct this annoying condition?

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: Truncated speech from JAWS

Bill White
 

Hi, Paul. This is because your sound card is going to sleep after a few seconds to save power. There is a JAWS option which is supposed to correct this problem, but I haven't found it to be effective. Instead, install a program called Silenzio, which prevents the sound card from going to sleep after a few seconds, by continuously transmitting a silent signal to the sound card. I will post the link for this program below.

 

http://www.stefankiss.sk/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=112

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:17 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Truncated speech from JAWS

 

Hello Listers,

I recently purchased a new Lenovo I5 PC with Windows 10. When I issue a JAWS command, after not having done so for a few seconds, the first syllable or character of the spoken response gets truncated. How can I correct this annoying condition?

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Bill White
 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Truncated speech from JAWS

Paul Filpus
 

Hello Listers,

I recently purchased a new Lenovo I5 PC with Windows 10. When I issue a JAWS command, after not having done so for a few seconds, the first syllable or character of the spoken response gets truncated. How can I correct this annoying condition?

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

Curtis Chong
 

Tim:

Insert space followed by the letter c will display the last text copied to the clipboard. If you want a clipboard history, you hve to turn on Windows 10 Smart Paste feature.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing clipboard texts.

Hello All,

Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard, specifically previous items?

Thanks,
Tim Ford


moderated Accessing clipboard texts.

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard, specifically previous items?

Thanks,
Tim Ford


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Hi Kim:

So the procedure I am suggesting will have JAWS start up at a later point. This will hopefully enable you to see all of the JAWS options that you should see.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Kim:

Your interpretation is spot on. The This User combo box will override the checkbox which determines if JAWS should start after login. If you want to start JAWS some other way, you would set that combo box to never. Then, put the shortcut for JAWS in the shell:startup folder.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

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moderated Re: Microsoft office and windows training

David Diamond
 

I rarely listen to instructional YouTube videos anymore.  Primarily because they are long winded and go the long way around the bush. If you need to go to the end of the block to the corner store you don’t need a lot of senseless directions such as, “you could go to the left then … or, you could go to the right then  …  Years ago I viewed a instructional video on something and then I found a shorter way to do what I wanted. After that I stopped using YouTube to learn things.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: March 11, 2022 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft office and windows training

 

To build on what David noted, if you like podcasts, I like using the FS training podcast where a number of the trainer webinars are housed.  This allows me to easily listen to a specific training on my iPhone while practicing or taking notes on my laptop.

I’ve also found a number of helpful short videos on YouTube, but I find the interface more  frustrating. It’s good if you are trying to figure out something specific, but the longer webinars are better overviews.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 7:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: microsoft office and windows training

 

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Hi Justin,

My books are meant to be references you can read through, and the first chapter of my primer book talks about JAWS and other screen reader basics. With regard to tutorials, JAWS has excellent audio tutorials in its Help menus, under the Training item. These tutorials are among the first resources you should try to use.

Regards,

David

 



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moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

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--
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moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Kim:

 

I can recommend a work around which does not address the issue of JAWS being corrupted at startup but which will enable JAWS to start up automatically a bit later than it is starting right now on your system. I will point out that on my system, where I need to enter a PIN, I am now using Narrator because it tends to start more expeditiously than JAWS. If you need the procedure for setting this up, let us know.

 

1.            In the Task Manager’s Startup area, find where the JAWS item is, right click (applications key) on it, and activate disable.

2.            Press Windows R, type shell:startup, and press Enter. This folder should be empty. Copy the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop into this folder.

3.            Ensure that JAWS is not set to start automatically either at login or after—unless you need to have JAWS up to enter a password or PIN.

 

Years ago, I ran into a similar problem with JAWS startup, but for the life of me, I cannot remember how, at that time, I was able to resolve that problem.

 

Warmly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

 

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

 

 

Thanks,

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Good morning:

> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS

> shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see if

> JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

> Best,

> Curtis Chong

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>

> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing

> when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and

> perhaps have detected a pattern.

> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running

> windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

> best next step?

> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

> Kim

> --

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>

 

 

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moderated Re: Leasey 7 from Hartgen

Mike Pietruk
 

Robin

What I eventually did, after a couple of hours of playing around, is
switched to the Total package which, of course, gave me what I had
anticipated would be the display in Advanced.
You explained why Advanced 6 worked for me and why 7 didn't.
I'm sticking with Total which is probably the best way to go for most
users except very experienced ones.
Incidentally, the Manager feature in V7 Total now allows one to redefine
the use of the ScrollLock, Print Page, and Pause keys which should prove
beneficial for many users as some keyboards don't offer all of those keys.

So, now I understand why 6 Advanced worked for me and why 7 Advanced
didn't.
All is well now with V7 Total Leasey on my system running in JFW2021 and
the regular JFW in JFW2022.


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly










--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Leasey 7 from Hartgen

Van Lant, Robin
 

Mike,
I'm hoping you've gotten some response on this from Hartgen or another lister. I just read through my Leasey list emails and see that the menu was removed for Advanced users, since it's intended for Basic users. I havent' upgraded yet and am still in the infancy of learning Leasey, but I could see how those menus might be helpful. I suspect you'll hear back from Brian on the list. He admitted that he was getting numerous emails, so the response time was slow with the release of 7.0.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Leasey 7 from Hartgen

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Good afternoon!

I am a new user of Brian's Leasey script package. I bought it when it was in ver 6.1 last month; and, being a new user, I was very comfortable that the print key me a list of menus and the pase key help menus.
With the installation of 7.0 and turning on Leasey with the grave accent toggle, those menus seem to have disappeared.
I have the Advanced package so perhaps that may be the problem.

How do I switch on menus, and, is there a list for Leasey somewhere? I've sent in several subscribe requests to Hartgen's list for Leasey to no avail asking me to confirm my subscription.

Thanks!








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moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong

On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

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