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moderated Re: create a system image.

Dave Durber
 


Randy:
 
I use Image for Windows, produced by Terabyte. You get a 30 day trial, then you need to purchase a license, to go on using the program. I do not think the purchase price is that expensive, probably about 50 dollars, US.
 
As far as I know, there are 2 versions of a Talking Windoes Preinstall Environment (TWPE). One produced by Brian Smart for Windows 7 and another by someone by the name of Carlos, sorry I do not know his last name, for Windows 10. Once you  boot into either TWPE, hopefully You should be able to run Macrium Reflect Free, to restore a previously created image to your system drive, using NVDA to speak the prompts and menues.
 
I use Brian Smart's Windows 7 TWPE and the Image for Windows  restore utility, to restore images. I use this TWPE because, I find that it boots faster, an it definitely shuts down the computer correctly, when you have finished restoring an image or, when you have finished using the TWPE for any other reason.
 
When I have used Carlos's TWPE, I have found that when you shut down the computer, it occasionally hangs, and you need to press and hold the power button, until the system switches off.
 
HTH
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
I did need a bit of sighted help to restore
-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

David Diamond
 

What are the safe guards for me though if the item is defective?  I’m not trying to be a protagonist, I just don’t won’t to be stuck with junk. There are lots of cases where ones have taken the money and ran.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: April 14, 2021 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

If you go to eBay.ca you don't have any of these issues, it's just a straight forward online purchase just as from any other place such as Amazon, Best Buy etc.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

For a laugh I enquired about office 2019 and it directed me to E-bay.  It was an adventure unto itself because I had to tell it to ship to and from Canada.  The hardest part was having to tell it I needed the currency in CAD not British pounds. If I registered would it always be this much trouble?   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: April 13, 2021 5:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

Bonanza.com is the place to go.  It is reliable and like Amazon, will intervene with its sellers if there is any delay.  I bought Office 2013 Pro for $35 just last month.  It has the lowest prices I see anywhere on used software.

 

Tim

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

Hi,

 

eBay, it is the only place I know  of at this moment.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

Hi all, I am running jaws 18 on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated if you were getting a new computer.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


moderated Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

If you go to eBay.ca you don't have any of these issues, it's just a straight forward online purchase just as from any other place such as Amazon, Best Buy etc.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

For a laugh I enquired about office 2019 and it directed me to E-bay.  It was an adventure unto itself because I had to tell it to ship to and from Canada.  The hardest part was having to tell it I needed the currency in CAD not British pounds. If I registered would it always be this much trouble?   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: April 13, 2021 5:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

Bonanza.com is the place to go.  It is reliable and like Amazon, will intervene with its sellers if there is any delay.  I bought Office 2013 Pro for $35 just last month.  It has the lowest prices I see anywhere on used software.

 

Tim

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

Hi,

 

eBay, it is the only place I know  of at this moment.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

 

Hi all, I am running jaws 18 on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

So in a total failure of windows you have to reinstall windows first then restore?

On 4/14/2021 5:50 PM, Morey Worthington wrote:
Yes...

first type in search...restore system and it will take you to the first window again and it will ask where you want to restore from and you are on your way, but remember to have that external drive hooked up and open.

HTH


moderated Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program

Morey Worthington
 

Yes...

first type in search...restore system and it will take you to the first window again and it will ask where you want to restore from and you are on your way, but remember to have that external drive hooked up and open.

HTH

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program

Alan Robbins
 

Morey,

Thanks, can you restore without sighted assistance?

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: What I do to make a system image using built-in program

What I do to create a system Image using W10, newest, and Jaws 2021.
1. I have an external hard drive, 2TB , plugged in and running.
2. I have everything closed and go to the desktop, press the search key and type in back up and restore and click on it, and when that opens there is a link to make backup and click on that.
3. One of the first things seen, or said, is something about using W7 to create files. Do not worry about the W7 thing because it is what Windows calls their back up system.
When the back up window opens it will ask you on which hard drive you would like to have it installed to. in there were 3 choices im my case ,C Drive,CD, and My external E Drive.
I chose the E Drive.
There should be a next button..click on it.
5. After the next window opens tab to the Create Syystem Image and click on it.
6.In the next window it will ask in which format you would like to save the format. The first one was highlighted and I just left it there.
Then there is a next button..click on it.
7. Depending on how much , or how big the image will be, it will take at least an hour or more to finish. When I made the first one it took 2 and a half hours because I had many programs and so on. You can check the progress if you have percentage thing turned on or just go to the Jaws window and it will tell you. It might feel stuck after about 95 percent or so, but dont worry about it, it is still doing its job. There is always a cancel button if you dont like it.
When it is finished in that window,, it will tell you to click on the finish button, and it is done.
When this is all finished, go to the external drive and check to see what folders show up. One might be a data file and the other should say something like system. You can open it and in there you will find a folder with the date of The image you made.
This is where Windows will come to retreive the image when you do a system restore. Remember if you have to do a system restore, to have this external hard drive plugged in and turned on.
HTH.
I am not sharp at making these kind of files, but I hope it works.

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: What I do to make a system image using built-in program

Justin Williams
 

I used to be able to do that, but it was as if the dialogue box you just described was not there.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: What I do to make a system image using built-in program

What I do to create a system Image using W10, newest, and Jaws 2021.
1. I have an external hard drive, 2TB , plugged in and running.
2. I have everything closed and go to the desktop, press the search key and type in back up and restore and click on it, and when that opens there is a link to make backup and click on that.
3. One of the first things seen, or said, is something about using W7 to create files. Do not worry about the W7 thing because it is what Windows calls their back up system.
When the back up window opens it will ask you on which hard drive you would like to have it installed to. in there were 3 choices im my case ,C Drive,CD, and My external E Drive.
I chose the E Drive.
There should be a next button..click on it.
5. After the next window opens tab to the Create Syystem Image and click on it.
6.In the next window it will ask in which format you would like to save the format. The first one was highlighted and I just left it there.
Then there is a next button..click on it.
7. Depending on how much , or how big the image will be, it will take at least an hour or more to finish. When I made the first one it took 2 and a half hours because I had many programs and so on. You can check the progress if you have percentage thing turned on or just go to the Jaws window and it will tell you. It might feel stuck after about 95 percent or so, but dont worry about it, it is still doing its job. There is always a cancel button if you dont like it.
When it is finished in that window,, it will tell you to click on the finish button, and it is done.
When this is all finished, go to the external drive and check to see what folders show up. One might be a data file and the other should say something like system. You can open it and in there you will find a folder with the date of The image you made.
This is where Windows will come to retreive the image when you do a system restore. Remember if you have to do a system restore, to have this external hard drive plugged in and turned on.
HTH.
I am not sharp at making these kind of files, but I hope it works.

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: create a system image.

Justin Williams
 

I'm just trying to get the image ot the tosheba usb hard drie I have.

I've done it before, but I'll attempt it again tonight.

 

I used to be able to just find the link, create system image.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 7:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

I am sorry to hear that.

On 4/14/2021 4:17 PM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Randy,

 

His name was, Carlos Nazario, and he left us way too soon.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

Win PE in the context I am using is as Brian said a Pre-install environment with the addition of NVDA and some extra apps like paswword resetting your windows password and backing up your PC,put together by a blind person. I cant remember his name but this was invaluable before win10 introduced narrator in the setup side of windows. It appears it is still a good tool for backup'ing your PC since all backup solutions I know of are not accessible during a restore.

Here is a link to my copy of the win10 version.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArI9mdteFUZIgcZomOWSEWupSBeZEQ?e=7wWp5W

 

On 4/14/2021 2:16 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

What is win PE?

I have bee able to back up systems before, but for some reason, I can't find the back up.

Justin

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Then this sounds like the best solution for blind people. unless you want automatic incremental backups that is.

On 4/13/2021 7:59 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:



If you can run Win PE, just use 7Zip for the image.

The system I am using now was zipped and unzipped onto a new drive with 7Zip and Win PE.

Note, you don't need to zip up pagefile.sys and hyberfil.sys in the root of C:, as windows makes those fresh when they are not there, they are just temp files, and each one equals the amount of RAM your computer uses.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I did need a bit of sighted help to restore

-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: create a system image.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

I am sorry to hear that.

On 4/14/2021 4:17 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Randy,
 
His name was, Carlos Nazario, and he left us way too soon.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Win PE in the context I am using is as Brian said a Pre-install environment with the addition of NVDA and some extra apps like paswword resetting your windows password and backing up your PC,put together by a blind person. I cant remember his name but this was invaluable before win10 introduced narrator in the setup side of windows. It appears it is still a good tool for backup'ing your PC since all backup solutions I know of are not accessible during a restore.

Here is a link to my copy of the win10 version.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArI9mdteFUZIgcZomOWSEWupSBeZEQ?e=7wWp5W


On 4/14/2021 2:16 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

What is win PE?

I have bee able to back up systems before, but for some reason, I can't find the back up.

Justin

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Then this sounds like the best solution for blind people. unless you want automatic incremental backups that is.

On 4/13/2021 7:59 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:



If you can run Win PE, just use 7Zip for the image.

The system I am using now was zipped and unzipped onto a new drive with 7Zip and Win PE.

Note, you don't need to zip up pagefile.sys and hyberfil.sys in the root of C:, as windows makes those fresh when they are not there, they are just temp files, and each one equals the amount of RAM your computer uses.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I did need a bit of sighted help to restore

-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: create a system image.

Mike B.
 


Hi Randy,
 
His name was, Carlos Nazario, and he left us way too soon.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Win PE in the context I am using is as Brian said a Pre-install environment with the addition of NVDA and some extra apps like paswword resetting your windows password and backing up your PC,put together by a blind person. I cant remember his name but this was invaluable before win10 introduced narrator in the setup side of windows. It appears it is still a good tool for backup'ing your PC since all backup solutions I know of are not accessible during a restore.

Here is a link to my copy of the win10 version.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArI9mdteFUZIgcZomOWSEWupSBeZEQ?e=7wWp5W


On 4/14/2021 2:16 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

What is win PE?

I have bee able to back up systems before, but for some reason, I can't find the back up.

Justin

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Then this sounds like the best solution for blind people. unless you want automatic incremental backups that is.

On 4/13/2021 7:59 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:



If you can run Win PE, just use 7Zip for the image.

The system I am using now was zipped and unzipped onto a new drive with 7Zip and Win PE.

Note, you don't need to zip up pagefile.sys and hyberfil.sys in the root of C:, as windows makes those fresh when they are not there, they are just temp files, and each one equals the amount of RAM your computer uses.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I did need a bit of sighted help to restore

-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated What I do to make a system image using built-in program

Morey Worthington
 

What I do to create a system Image using W10, newest, and Jaws 2021.
1. I have an external hard drive, 2TB , plugged in and running.
2. I have everything closed and go to the desktop, press the search key and type in back up and restore and click on it, and when that opens there is a link to make backup and click on that.
3. One of the first things seen, or said, is something about using W7 to create files. Do not worry about the W7 thing because it is what Windows calls their back up   system.
 When the back up window opens it will ask you on which hard drive you would like to have it installed  to. in there were 3 choices im my case ,C Drive,CD, and My external E Drive.
I chose the E Drive.
There should be a next button..click on it.
5. After the next window opens tab to the Create Syystem Image and click on it.
 6.In the next window it will ask in which format you would like to save the format. The first one was highlighted and I just left it there.
Then there is   a next button..click on it.
7. Depending on how much , or how big the image will be, it will take at least an hour or more to finish. When I made the first one it took 2 and a half hours because I had many programs and so on. You can check the progress if you have percentage  thing turned on or just go to the Jaws window and it will tell you. It might feel stuck after about 95 percent or so, but dont worry about it, it is still doing its job. There is always a cancel button if you dont like it.
When it is finished in that window,, it  will tell you to click on the finish button, and it is done.
When this is all finished, go to the external drive and check to see what folders show up. One might be a data file and the other should say something like system. You can open it and in there you will find a folder with the date of The image you made.
This is where Windows will come to retreive the image when you do a system restore. Remember if you have to do a system restore, to have this external hard drive plugged in and turned on.
HTH.
I am not sharp at making these kind of files, but I hope it works.

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: create a system image.

Jason White
 

I’ve used CloneZilla successfully. The restoration process should be accessible, is it’s all done from a Linux console (e.g., obtained via a bootable USB drive). As I recall, CloneZilla itself offers a menu-based interface.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

I’m with Brian. Macrium Reflect is a great program for making images of your entire system. I did need a bit of sighted help to restore one of those images but when the hard disk on my Windows 7 box died the other day, I was able to purchase a replacement from Amazon for about $50, restore the backed up image from my external USB drive and be back in business after a few hours. Here is the download link to Macrium Reflect for anyone who is interested:

 

https://www.filehorse.com/download-macrium-reflect-64/download/

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

One option, and there are others:  Using Macrium Reflect Free with a Screen Reader
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: create a system image.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

Win PE in the context I am using is as Brian said a Pre-install environment with the addition of NVDA and some extra apps like paswword resetting your windows password and backing up your PC,put together by a blind person. I cant remember his name but this was invaluable before win10 introduced narrator in the setup side of windows. It appears it is still a good tool for backup'ing your PC since all backup solutions I know of are not accessible during a restore.

Here is a link to my copy of the win10 version.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArI9mdteFUZIgcZomOWSEWupSBeZEQ?e=7wWp5W


On 4/14/2021 2:16 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

What is win PE?

 

I have bee able to back up systems before, but for some reason, I can't find the back up.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

Then this sounds like the best solution for blind people. unless you want automatic incremental backups that is.

On 4/13/2021 7:59 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:



If you can run Win PE, just use 7Zip for the image.

The system I am using now was zipped and unzipped onto a new drive with 7Zip and Win PE.

Note, you don't need to zip up pagefile.sys and hyberfil.sys in the root of C:, as windows makes those fresh when they are not there, they are just temp files, and each one equals the amount of RAM your computer uses.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I did need a bit of sighted help to restore

-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?

E.M. Kirtley
 

Try JAWS-key+spacebar+m. 

 

EMK

 

 

 

From: Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?

 

Hello list,

Does anyone know how to jump to the end of the data in a Google docs spread sheet with Jaws or if it is even possible?

The Excel commands with the end/home plus the different arrow keys don’t appear to work. I have both the accessibility and Braille display settings enabled as well as the use similar commands as in other spread sheet programs or whatever it’s called.

I’ve poked around in the list of keystroke commands (including for navigation) also in settings and didn’t find anything either.

Ideally, I’d like for focus to land on the last row with data as this spread sheet in particular is always being updated. Indeed, when viewing a Google spreadsheet with VoiceOver on the iPhone, focus is always on the last row of data when opening the document, but working with a spreadsheet or reviewing information this way at least for me, isn’t efficient enough to make it the primary means in which I wish to work.

For the record, I’m using the most current versions of Jaws 2021 and Edge.

Thank you,

Cristóbal

 


moderated How to navigate to the end of data in a Google spreadsheet with Jaws?

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

Does anyone know how to jump to the end of the data in a Google docs spread sheet with Jaws or if it is even possible?

The Excel commands with the end/home plus the different arrow keys don’t appear to work. I have both the accessibility and Braille display settings enabled as well as the use similar commands as in other spread sheet programs or whatever it’s called.

I’ve poked around in the list of keystroke commands (including for navigation) also in settings and didn’t find anything either.

Ideally, I’d like for focus to land on the last row with data as this spread sheet in particular is always being updated. Indeed, when viewing a Google spreadsheet with VoiceOver on the iPhone, focus is always on the last row of data when opening the document, but working with a spreadsheet or reviewing information this way at least for me, isn’t efficient enough to make it the primary means in which I wish to work.

For the record, I’m using the most current versions of Jaws 2021 and Edge.

Thank you,

Cristóbal


moderated Re: create a system image.

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 05:16 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
What is win PE?
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Windows Pre-installation Environment.  It's best described as a tiny subset of actual Windows that can run independently.  It serves as the core of the recovery features of many backup and recovery suites.

Do not use Backup & Restore (Windows 7) as it was deprecated quite a while back (2017) and could be pulled without notice.  Microsoft recommends a third-party utility of your choosing.  Microsoft Announcement of Deprecated Features, including SIB [Backup and Restore (Windows 7), V1709]
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: create a system image.

Justin Williams
 

I did hit enter on windows 7 back up, but couldn't get to the create image to do so.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

Then this sounds like the best solution for blind people. unless you want automatic incremental backups that is.

On 4/13/2021 7:59 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:



If you can run Win PE, just use 7Zip for the image.

The system I am using now was zipped and unzipped onto a new drive with 7Zip and Win PE.

Note, you don't need to zip up pagefile.sys and hyberfil.sys in the root of C:, as windows makes those fresh when they are not there, they are just temp files, and each one equals the amount of RAM your computer uses.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I did need a bit of sighted help to restore

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Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: create a system image.

Justin Williams
 

What is win PE?

 

I have bee able to back up systems before, but for some reason, I can't find the back up.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

Then this sounds like the best solution for blind people. unless you want automatic incremental backups that is.

On 4/13/2021 7:59 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:



If you can run Win PE, just use 7Zip for the image.

The system I am using now was zipped and unzipped onto a new drive with 7Zip and Win PE.

Note, you don't need to zip up pagefile.sys and hyberfil.sys in the root of C:, as windows makes those fresh when they are not there, they are just temp files, and each one equals the amount of RAM your computer uses.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

 

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I did need a bit of sighted help to restore

-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Keystrokes for Developer toolbar in Office 365

 

As soon as you see "subscription" in the description it is Office 365.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel

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