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Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave Mitchell
 

Dave,  Thanks and your explanation mirrors more of the issues I am experiencing.
And not knowing what is happening, my impatience is likely compounding the problem.
But what’s a new version of JAWS without some new mysteries to ponder.  Rock on, Mitch
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Mitch,
 
Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox. A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.
 
Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.
 
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.
I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch
 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Tim Ford
 

Hi Folks,

 

This lag is something that seemed to have hit me ahead of most everyone else, but it has now apparently spread.  It became so bad on my old Windows 7 laptop that I uninstalled 17 and 18 and went back to 16.  On my new Windows 10 64 bit laptop, running JAWS 17, the lag has been much less pronounced and short in duration.  Back when the problem first hit me months ago, I felt that I must be losing it since nobody else seemed to be having what I knew would be very noticeable.  So now it seems that the problem eventually hits everybody.  Has Freedom Scientific admitted yet that this problem exists?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Mitch,

 

Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox. A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.

 

Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.

 

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55

Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave...
 


Mitch,
 
Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox. A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.
 
Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.
 
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.
I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch
 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Opening PDF documents

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Here is another thing, once the PDF document opens in IE if you go to the context menu you can click on the good old Save as and it will save as a PDF that you can open on your computer with acrobat.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDF documents

 

I finally got a File menu to come up with the alt key, and that did it.  I earlier clicked several times on an export PDF icon, but that alone didn’t seem to  help.  Anyhow, I got it, and thanks all.

 

Ted

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeanette McAllister PhD
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDF documents

 

Instead of right clicking have you tried the applications key, or if after opening it have you pressed The function key f12 to see if you can save it?

Dr. Jeanette McAllister

757-346-0708

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 28, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.lisle@...> wrote:

I’ve got a medical form I need to download.  It’s found by following a link, and the right mouse click doesn’t help.  It’s opening in IE, how do I get the latest PDF reader to open such a document?  I’ve searched for the correct option in Preferences, but it’s eluding me.

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 


Re: opening jpegs

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

The Jaws OCR feature has the option to do PDF files but it is not limited to those alone.

The other jaws OCR choices such as the w option for window will perform OCR on the currently focused windows.  I have often opened and image file with windows paint and used the jaws OCR option w to perform OCR on the window to see what I could get from the image.  It does work but results are unpredictable.

Tom Bisset

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

She said it's a JPG file, Convenient OCR only recognizes PDF files. You can, of course, use one of the many online converters to convert the JPG file to a PDF file and then use Jaws Convenient OCR to read it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Insert, space bar, O key, D key: Opens up OCR program to read unredable PDF’s or documents.

Insert, space bar, Okey,S key: readsthe entire screen.

Insert, space bar, O key, C key: reads a controlled element.

Insert space bar, O key, W key: reads the whole windo.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?

 

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

 


Re: opening jpegs

 

She said it's a JPG file, Convenient OCR only recognizes PDF files. You can, of course, use one of the many online converters to convert the JPG file to a PDF file and then use Jaws Convenient OCR to read it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Insert, space bar, O key, D key: Opens up OCR program to read unredable PDF’s or documents.

Insert, space bar, Okey,S key: readsthe entire screen.

Insert, space bar, O key, C key: reads a controlled element.

Insert space bar, O key, W key: reads the whole windo.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?

 

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

 


Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Cristóbal
 

So far, so good.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Just curius, are all your installed programs working? I've been reading
conflicting information about whether this feature keeps your programs
intact.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 27 February 2017 02:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

A final follow up to this issue.
I reached out to Microsoft Accessibility. After going over everything, they
suggested that it was most likely a Windows update that for whatever reason
went bad. We tried going into the update section of settings and it kept on
closing on me with all sorts of error messages.
The FS tech who I spoke to (Dennis I believe was his name) also mentioned
this as a possibility.
In any event, with my still working Windows 7 laptop, I downloaded a Windows
10 ISO, burned it to a DVD and popped it into the tower with my sighted wife
following the prompts to repair keeping my files and programs in tact.
This did the trick. It ran, rebooted a few times and is now up and
functioning as it should with all sounds and services running.
Thought I'd share should anyone ever come across a similar problem. Needless
to say, I'm going to keep a Win 10 recovery disk handy from now on.
Been using Jaws since V 3.7U and this is the first time I encountered an
issue such as disruptive as this during an update.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Chris,

Sounds like you are in "safe Mode" Do a system restore to before you
installed JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <crismunoz54@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 14:02
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws


Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came
up. However, my sighted wife says that there's an error message having to do
with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts,
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn't seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet even though this machine is
connected via an Ethernet cable.
I've checked online and even someone on one of these lists recommended to
uninstall audiodrivers in the device manager, and restart, but this doesn't
seem as though it wouldn't work for me as again, I'm somehow no longer
connected to the Internet.
I also tried accessing system restore and am presented with an error message
having to do with the audio property profile not being loaded and to check
the event log etc.
I've since tried rebooting and am again stuck on that original screen before
the desktop.
I wrote FS earlier, but who knows.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

You may be able to get into the Windows Recovery mode by pressing shift and
restart at the same time. You'll need sighted assistance to find a restore
point from there.

Good luck

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: 24 February 2017 06:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi Chris,

I'm so sorry you've encountered this issue. I have two suggestions. If in
fact the sound got turned down, try pressing Alt-Ctrl-Windows Up Arrow
several times and see if the sound returns. This is a keystroke to raise
system volume. The other thought is perhaps your speakers got muted,
although I think this is unlikely, since you aren't getting anything through
your USB headset either. But just in case, you can type Windows-B, and
right arrow to your speakers item and see if it's active and if the volume
level is set to something you can hear. You might try that first to see
what your setting is; I'm hoping that keystroke I provided might bring your
sound back. Good luck and let us know what happens.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hello list,

So I downloaded and updated the new jaws 18 release that was made available
today.

I first ran the update on my personal Win 7 Pro Dell laptop and everything
went as usual. Did the reboot and all was good. I'm writing this email on
that machine.

I waited for the business day to be over before doing the same on my Dell
Win 10 pro business desktop. Again, ran the downloaded installer, went
through the process and clicked on the ok button when I was prompted to
reboot.

However, on the desktop, I am not able to get to the actual desktop. Indeed,
there is absolutely no sound coming from my machine. The only way I know
what's going on is with my sighted wife's help. I get to the screen with
three buttons for connect to the Internet, ease of access and the power down
button. The connect to the Internet button is crossed out as if it hasn't
completed loading. The ease of access button is active, but even if I try to
start narrator, there is still no sound. My wife says that it looks like
Narrator turns on, but with no sound, there's nothing I can do. That and
since the desktop doesn't come up, I still can't get anywhere. The only
thing we're able to do is access the power button to either restart or shut
down the computer.

We've tried restarting and pressing the f12 button when that prompt comes up
briefly, but then I get a screen with options of a legacy boot and other
diagnostics options that I'm not familiar with.

As far as the sound goes, I've made sure and checked with both my USB
powered headphones and regular desktop speakers. There aren't even any
system sounds.

Don't know if even calling FS would be of any help since again, there's
no audible feedback what so ever. Can't even try a system restore since I
can't get to the desktop where everything's fully loaded. NVDA doesn't come
up either.

Any ideas?

I'm really at a loss.



Cristobal


Re: Opening PDF documents

Maria Kristic
 

In order to stop the PDF from opening in IE and get it to open in Adobe Reader, you have to disable the “Adobe PDF Reader” add-on in the Web browser. In IE, go to Tools > Manage Add-Ons. Make sure the “Toolbars and Extensions” radio button is checked. TAB to the Filter list box, UP/DOWN ARROW to the All Add-Ons option, and press ENTER. Give them a second to load, then TAB over to the list of add-ons. Select Adobe PDF Reader, TAB to and activate the Disable button, then activate the Close button. Your PDFs should now open externally.

 

Regards,

Maria

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Opening PDF documents

 

I’ve got a medical form I need to download.  It’s found by following a link, and the right mouse click doesn’t help.  It’s opening in IE, how do I get the latest PDF reader to open such a document?  I’ve searched for the correct option in Preferences, but it’s eluding me.

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 


Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave Mitchell
 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.
I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch
 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: opening jpegs

Maria Kristic
 

INSERT+SPACE, O, C OCRs the current control in focus… As per JAWS Help Convenient OCR topic: INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a graphical button.

 

Regards,

Maria

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Keith, someone sent me those keyboard commands. I have no idea either, of what  those control elements are!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for this.

 

What is meant by a controlled element?

 

Thanks again, Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Insert, space bar, O key, D key: Opens up OCR program to read unredable PDF’s or documents.

Insert, space bar, Okey,S key: readsthe entire screen.

Insert, space bar, O key, C key: reads a controlled element.

Insert space bar, O key, W key: reads the whole windo.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?

 

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

 


Re: opening jpegs

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Keith, someone sent me those keyboard commands. I have no idea either, of what  those control elements are!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for this.

 

What is meant by a controlled element?

 

Thanks again, Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Insert, space bar, O key, D key: Opens up OCR program to read unredable PDF’s or documents.

Insert, space bar, Okey,S key: readsthe entire screen.

Insert, space bar, O key, C key: reads a controlled element.

Insert space bar, O key, W key: reads the whole windo.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?

 

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

 


Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

John Gurd
 

Just curius, are all your installed programs working? I've been reading
conflicting information about whether this feature keeps your programs
intact.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 27 February 2017 02:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

A final follow up to this issue.
I reached out to Microsoft Accessibility. After going over everything, they
suggested that it was most likely a Windows update that for whatever reason
went bad. We tried going into the update section of settings and it kept on
closing on me with all sorts of error messages.
The FS tech who I spoke to (Dennis I believe was his name) also mentioned
this as a possibility.
In any event, with my still working Windows 7 laptop, I downloaded a Windows
10 ISO, burned it to a DVD and popped it into the tower with my sighted wife
following the prompts to repair keeping my files and programs in tact.
This did the trick. It ran, rebooted a few times and is now up and
functioning as it should with all sounds and services running.
Thought I'd share should anyone ever come across a similar problem. Needless
to say, I'm going to keep a Win 10 recovery disk handy from now on.
Been using Jaws since V 3.7U and this is the first time I encountered an
issue such as disruptive as this during an update.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Chris,

Sounds like you are in "safe Mode" Do a system restore to before you
installed JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <crismunoz54@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 14:02
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws


Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came
up. However, my sighted wife says that there's an error message having to do
with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts,
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn't seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet even though this machine is
connected via an Ethernet cable.
I've checked online and even someone on one of these lists recommended to
uninstall audiodrivers in the device manager, and restart, but this doesn't
seem as though it wouldn't work for me as again, I'm somehow no longer
connected to the Internet.
I also tried accessing system restore and am presented with an error message
having to do with the audio property profile not being loaded and to check
the event log etc.
I've since tried rebooting and am again stuck on that original screen before
the desktop.
I wrote FS earlier, but who knows.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

You may be able to get into the Windows Recovery mode by pressing shift and
restart at the same time. You'll need sighted assistance to find a restore
point from there.

Good luck

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: 24 February 2017 06:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi Chris,

I'm so sorry you've encountered this issue. I have two suggestions. If in
fact the sound got turned down, try pressing Alt-Ctrl-Windows Up Arrow
several times and see if the sound returns. This is a keystroke to raise
system volume. The other thought is perhaps your speakers got muted,
although I think this is unlikely, since you aren't getting anything through
your USB headset either. But just in case, you can type Windows-B, and
right arrow to your speakers item and see if it's active and if the volume
level is set to something you can hear. You might try that first to see
what your setting is; I'm hoping that keystroke I provided might bring your
sound back. Good luck and let us know what happens.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hello list,

So I downloaded and updated the new jaws 18 release that was made available
today.

I first ran the update on my personal Win 7 Pro Dell laptop and everything
went as usual. Did the reboot and all was good. I'm writing this email on
that machine.

I waited for the business day to be over before doing the same on my Dell
Win 10 pro business desktop. Again, ran the downloaded installer, went
through the process and clicked on the ok button when I was prompted to
reboot.

However, on the desktop, I am not able to get to the actual desktop. Indeed,
there is absolutely no sound coming from my machine. The only way I know
what's going on is with my sighted wife's help. I get to the screen with
three buttons for connect to the Internet, ease of access and the power down
button. The connect to the Internet button is crossed out as if it hasn't
completed loading. The ease of access button is active, but even if I try to
start narrator, there is still no sound. My wife says that it looks like
Narrator turns on, but with no sound, there's nothing I can do. That and
since the desktop doesn't come up, I still can't get anywhere. The only
thing we're able to do is access the power button to either restart or shut
down the computer.

We've tried restarting and pressing the f12 button when that prompt comes up
briefly, but then I get a screen with options of a legacy boot and other
diagnostics options that I'm not familiar with.

As far as the sound goes, I've made sure and checked with both my USB
powered headphones and regular desktop speakers. There aren't even any
system sounds.

Don't know if even calling FS would be of any help since again, there's
no audible feedback what so ever. Can't even try a system restore since I
can't get to the desktop where everything's fully loaded. NVDA doesn't come
up either.

Any ideas?

I'm really at a loss.



Cristobal


Re: opening jpegs

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

 

Thanks for this.

 

What is meant by a controlled element?

 

Thanks again, Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Insert, space bar, O key, D key: Opens up OCR program to read unredable PDF’s or documents.

Insert, space bar, Okey,S key: readsthe entire screen.

Insert, space bar, O key, C key: reads a controlled element.

Insert space bar, O key, W key: reads the whole windo.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?

 

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

 


Re: opening jpegs

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Insert, space bar, O key, D key: Opens up OCR program to read unredable PDF’s or documents.

Insert, space bar, Okey,S key: readsthe entire screen.

Insert, space bar, O key, C key: reads a controlled element.

Insert space bar, O key, W key: reads the whole windo.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?

 

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

 


Re: opening jpegs

Sandra Streeter
 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?
 
 
 
Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: opening jpegs
 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 




Re: opening jpegs

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 


opening jpegs

Sandra Streeter
 

Hello, everyone,
 
I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??
 
 
Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)



Re: Opening PDF documents

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Nope, we don’t have 10  here.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeanette McAllister PhD
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDF documents

 

I have a feeling it's opening in edge edge does not work with Jaws.

Dr. Jeanette McAllister

757-346-0708

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 28, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.lisle@...> wrote:

I’ve got a medical form I need to download.  It’s found by following a link, and the right mouse click doesn’t help.  It’s opening in IE, how do I get the latest PDF reader to open such a document?  I’ve searched for the correct option in Preferences, but it’s eluding me.

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 


Re: Opening PDF documents

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I finally got a File menu to come up with the alt key, and that did it.  I earlier clicked several times on an export PDF icon, but that alone didn’t seem to  help.  Anyhow, I got it, and thanks all.

 

Ted

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeanette McAllister PhD
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDF documents

 

Instead of right clicking have you tried the applications key, or if after opening it have you pressed The function key f12 to see if you can save it?

Dr. Jeanette McAllister

757-346-0708

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 28, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.lisle@...> wrote:

I’ve got a medical form I need to download.  It’s found by following a link, and the right mouse click doesn’t help.  It’s opening in IE, how do I get the latest PDF reader to open such a document?  I’ve searched for the correct option in Preferences, but it’s eluding me.

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 


Re: Opening PDF documents

Jeanette McAllister PhD
 

Are you on windows 10? If so, it's probably opening in Edge. The best advice I can give, is to save it to your desktop, and then try to open it with Adobe.

Dr. Jeanette McAllister
757-346-0708

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.lisle@...> wrote:

Tried that, won’t even come up.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDF documents

 

Hi,

 

Try saving as an adobe file from the file menu in I.E

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Opening PDF documents

 

I’ve got a medical form I need to download.  It’s found by following a link, and the right mouse click doesn’t help.  It’s opening in IE, how do I get the latest PDF reader to open such a document?  I’ve searched for the correct option in Preferences, but it’s eluding me.

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574