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Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
Gene Warner
Do the graphic buttons show up in JAWS as graphics? If so you could use the graphics labeler in JAWS to give them labels. You would need sighted help to do this but once it is done, you wouldn't need the help again.
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I use Charter/Spectrum for my cable TV and internet and they use a router that I find quite accessible. At least I've been able to do everything I needed to do with it. It announces itself as a Sagemcom F@st5260 router. Gene...
On 7/24/2022 4:08 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello everyone:
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Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
Soronel Haetir
Agreed with this, hardware of this type changes on an extremely rapid
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basis. (Mostly, I suspect, so that they can always put "newer and better" on the box).
On 7/24/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
On this point, I would add that unless someone has just gotten a router, --
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Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
K0LNY
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On this point, I would add that unless someone has
just gotten a router, then our suggestions may not be very useful.
My Linksys smart router is possibly 5 years old,
and you can't likely get that model any more.
I don't think any router manufacturer pays any
attention to accessibility, I think that if one model happens to be accessible,
it is a fluke.
Glenn
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From: Chris Hill
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible
using JAWS CH
On Jul 24, 2022, at 15:08, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
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Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
Chris Hill
Hello Dave, I’ve had good luck on accessibility from Netgear routers not so much with Linksys anymore.
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On Jul 24, 2022, at 15:08, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
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Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
Soronel Haetir
Also, just as a note, you can label graphics so that screen readers
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speak whatever text you assign and then even graphics buttons are usable. The trick here is making sure you get the labels right.
On 7/24/22, Paul Faucheux <pf112781@...> wrote:
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Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
Paul Faucheux
Hi David try netgear they’re accessible. Also you might want to take a look at linksys. There pretty good.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
Hello everyone:
I need to set up port forwarding for a particular purpose. My ISP provider, is EE. The router's interface is mostly accessible. I was able to choose the device from the list, enter the start and end port forwarding addresses but, I could not find the button to press, which saves the new settings. I called EE and explained my problem. EE sent a technician to my home to try and help me set up the port forwarding function, which is when we discovered there were a couple of buttons on the port forwarding page which had been designed as graphics, which of course,no screen reader cannot speak.
Now, I am looking for a router, which has an interface, which is accessible using JAWS. Until 2014, when Annie and I moved to the UK, we always had Lynksys routers. Are the modern day Lynksys routers fully accessible using JAWS, if not, can any list members recommend a router, which is accessible, using JAWS.
Any suggestions, must contain both make and model numbers.
Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.
Dave Durberr
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Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
K0LNY
Hi Dave,
I use a Linksys Smart router, but I don't use any
Linksys software, I use the web interface, and I find that Internet Explorer
works better than the three main browsers for router interface.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:08 PM
Subject: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using
JAWS Hello everyone:
I need to set up port forwarding for a particular
purpose. My ISP provider, is EE. The router's interface is mostly
accessible. I was able to choose the device from the list, enter the start and
end port forwarding addresses but, I could not find the button to press, which
saves the new settings. I called EE and explained my problem. EE sent a
technician to my home to try and help me set up the port forwarding function,
which is when we discovered there were a couple of buttons on the port
forwarding page which had been designed as graphics, which of course,no screen
reader cannot speak.
Now, I am looking for a router, which has an
interface, which is accessible using JAWS. Until 2014, when Annie and I moved to
the UK, we always had Lynksys routers. Are the modern day Lynksys routers fully
accessible using JAWS, if not, can any list members recommend a router,
which is accessible, using JAWS.
Any suggestions, must contain both make and model
numbers.
Thank you in anticipation for any and all
suggestions.
Dave Durberr
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Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS
Dave Durber
Hello everyone:
I need to set up port forwarding for a particular
purpose. My ISP provider, is EE. The router's interface is mostly
accessible. I was able to choose the device from the list, enter the start and
end port forwarding addresses but, I could not find the button to press, which
saves the new settings. I called EE and explained my problem. EE sent a
technician to my home to try and help me set up the port forwarding function,
which is when we discovered there were a couple of buttons on the port
forwarding page which had been designed as graphics, which of course,no screen
reader cannot speak.
Now, I am looking for a router, which has an
interface, which is accessible using JAWS. Until 2014, when Annie and I moved to
the UK, we always had Lynksys routers. Are the modern day Lynksys routers fully
accessible using JAWS, if not, can any list members recommend a router,
which is accessible, using JAWS.
Any suggestions, must contain both make and model
numbers.
Thank you in anticipation for any and all
suggestions.
Dave Durberr
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Re: End Insertion/Insertion
Karen Reynolds
Hi Tom, I don’t understand all that either. It was in the presentation on Thursday on being more productive. I think the podcast will be put up in a week and you can listen to it there. Maybe it will make more sense then.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 8:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion
OK.
I don’t understand the purpose of those for web pages, since no editing with track changes is occurring.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Hi Tom, If I remember this from the program the other day these are inline frames. You don’t want to turn them off globally. It will turn off things like youtube videos in the middle of pages too. Go to setting center, use control shift W instread of d. Then type inline in the search box and arrow down and check or uncheck it. Press enter and then ok. It will be gone for that page. I’ve also discovered that sometimes f9 gives just the article and not those ads.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.
Does anyone know how this can be turned off?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99 price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that.
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Re: Function keys on wireless keyboardand trying to change the way they operate with JAWS
Phillip Gross
It may depend on what keyboard it is. On my ErgoK 860, the key between F-12 and backspace will switch the function keys back and fourth. I don't know if the 360 has this.
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Re: help with jaws and a filter.
Joseph Machise
thanks glenn and don't no how to tell the filter to send all the e-mails
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that are sent hope I am saying this correctly not to my joseph machise account,they can all go to my gmail account and if there are any e-mails from my joseph machise account they will go in to just my inbox, another words all the e-mails will not just go in the inbox and I can make some other folders from nancies AudioOurPlace@... and the e-mails from that groop will go in that folder
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From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 8:24 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. These steps will work, but where I think he is having problems, is when you have made the first two selections, you are in a window containing the criteria above, and you have to space bar on the first one, like "from people" and then tab to add, and then you have to go back and space bar on what to do with it, like, move it to a specified folder. Than after that part, you have to name the rule. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 7:17 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, I haven't used Outlook Express in ages, but see if this helps: Rod ---------- This week's tip describes email filters using Outlook Express and its rules based system: 1. Create mail folders for Jokes, Spam Saved mail, etc by RIGHT clicking on Local Folders from the folder list, then clicking on New Folder. Creating folders will give you a chance to really organize and sort email with this rules technique 2. Click on Tools -> Message Rules -> Mail 3. In the first box, choose a parameter like "where the subject contains specific words" (you can choose more than one parameter) OR where an email address appears in the To or CC 4. In the second box, choose an action like "delete it" or "move to specified folder" 5. In the third box, click on any underlined words to set the parameter (ex: specified words = spam or viagra) 6. In box four, name your rule something descriptive 7. Click OK 8. Click New and repeat the steps to add new rules Source: https://helpmerick.com/email-filters-outlook-express.htm#content -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hi rod using outlook express and windows7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, Can you please provide more information about your system? Are you really using Outlook Express, or is it Outlook? And if it is Outlook, what version (2010, 2013, 2016, 2019, 221 or 365, or from Outlook.com)? And what version of Windows? If it is Outlook and Windows 10/11, you can reach the "Create Rule" dialog by pressing AltH, R, R, U. Or you can reach the Rules & Alerts manager with Alt+R, R, L. In Outlook 2021 this can be found on the File tab. Rod Macdonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io CC: Date: Friday, July 22, 2022 4:52 am Subject: help with jaws and a filter.
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Re: help with jaws and a filter.
Joseph Machise
Hi rod can you write me off list maybe you and Curtis can tandum with me
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e-mail is jdmachise@... thanks in advance.
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From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 8:17 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, I haven't used Outlook Express in ages, but see if this helps: Rod ---------- This week's tip describes email filters using Outlook Express and its rules based system: 1. Create mail folders for Jokes, Spam Saved mail, etc by RIGHT clicking on Local Folders from the folder list, then clicking on New Folder. Creating folders will give you a chance to really organize and sort email with this rules technique 2. Click on Tools -> Message Rules -> Mail 3. In the first box, choose a parameter like "where the subject contains specific words" (you can choose more than one parameter) OR where an email address appears in the To or CC 4. In the second box, choose an action like "delete it" or "move to specified folder" 5. In the third box, click on any underlined words to set the parameter (ex: specified words = spam or viagra) 6. In box four, name your rule something descriptive 7. Click OK 8. Click New and repeat the steps to add new rules Source: https://helpmerick.com/email-filters-outlook-express.htm#content -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hi rod using outlook express and windows7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, Can you please provide more information about your system? Are you really using Outlook Express, or is it Outlook? And if it is Outlook, what version (2010, 2013, 2016, 2019, 221 or 365, or from Outlook.com)? And what version of Windows? If it is Outlook and Windows 10/11, you can reach the "Create Rule" dialog by pressing AltH, R, R, U. Or you can reach the Rules & Alerts manager with Alt+R, R, L. In Outlook 2021 this can be found on the File tab. Rod Macdonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io CC: Date: Friday, July 22, 2022 4:52 am Subject: help with jaws and a filter.
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Re: help with jaws and a filter.
K0LNY
These steps will work, but where I think he is having problems, is when you
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have made the first two selections, you are in a window containing the criteria above, and you have to space bar on the first one, like "from people" and then tab to add, and then you have to go back and space bar on what to do with it, like, move it to a specified folder. Than after that part, you have to name the rule. Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 7:17 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, I haven't used Outlook Express in ages, but see if this helps: Rod ---------- This week's tip describes email filters using Outlook Express and its rules based system: 1. Create mail folders for Jokes, Spam Saved mail, etc by RIGHT clicking on Local Folders from the folder list, then clicking on New Folder. Creating folders will give you a chance to really organize and sort email with this rules technique 2. Click on Tools -> Message Rules -> Mail 3. In the first box, choose a parameter like "where the subject contains specific words" (you can choose more than one parameter) OR where an email address appears in the To or CC 4. In the second box, choose an action like "delete it" or "move to specified folder" 5. In the third box, click on any underlined words to set the parameter (ex: specified words = spam or viagra) 6. In box four, name your rule something descriptive 7. Click OK 8. Click New and repeat the steps to add new rules Source: https://helpmerick.com/email-filters-outlook-express.htm#content -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hi rod using outlook express and windows7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, Can you please provide more information about your system? Are you really using Outlook Express, or is it Outlook? And if it is Outlook, what version (2010, 2013, 2016, 2019, 221 or 365, or from Outlook.com)? And what version of Windows? If it is Outlook and Windows 10/11, you can reach the "Create Rule" dialog by pressing AltH, R, R, U. Or you can reach the Rules & Alerts manager with Alt+R, R, L. In Outlook 2021 this can be found on the File tab. Rod Macdonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io CC: Date: Friday, July 22, 2022 4:52 am Subject: help with jaws and a filter.
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Re: End Insertion/Insertion
Tom Behler
OK.
I don’t understand the purpose of those for web pages, since no editing with track changes is occurring.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 7:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion
Hi Tom, If I remember this from the program the other day these are inline frames. You don’t want to turn them off globally. It will turn off things like youtube videos in the middle of pages too. Go to setting center, use control shift W instread of d. Then type inline in the search box and arrow down and check or uncheck it. Press enter and then ok. It will be gone for that page. I’ve also discovered that sometimes f9 gives just the article and not those ads.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.
Does anyone know how this can be turned off?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99 price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that.
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Re: help with jaws and a filter.
Rod & Ele Macdonald
Hello Joseph,
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I haven't used Outlook Express in ages, but see if this helps: Rod ---------- This week's tip describes email filters using Outlook Express and its rules based system: 1. Create mail folders for Jokes, Spam Saved mail, etc by RIGHT clicking on Local Folders from the folder list, then clicking on New Folder. Creating folders will give you a chance to really organize and sort email with this rules technique 2. Click on Tools -> Message Rules -> Mail 3. In the first box, choose a parameter like "where the subject contains specific words" (you can choose more than one parameter) OR where an email address appears in the To or CC 4. In the second box, choose an action like "delete it" or "move to specified folder" 5. In the third box, click on any underlined words to set the parameter (ex: specified words = spam or viagra) 6. In box four, name your rule something descriptive 7. Click OK 8. Click New and repeat the steps to add new rules Source: https://helpmerick.com/email-filters-outlook-express.htm#content
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hi rod using outlook express and windows7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, Can you please provide more information about your system? Are you really using Outlook Express, or is it Outlook? And if it is Outlook, what version (2010, 2013, 2016, 2019, 221 or 365, or from Outlook.com)? And what version of Windows? If it is Outlook and Windows 10/11, you can reach the "Create Rule" dialog by pressing AltH, R, R, U. Or you can reach the Rules & Alerts manager with Alt+R, R, L. In Outlook 2021 this can be found on the File tab. Rod Macdonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io CC: Date: Friday, July 22, 2022 4:52 am Subject: help with jaws and a filter.
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Re: How do I activate and navigate "sub menus" on a webpage?
Mark Fisher
Hi
I find that you can use the JAWS pass through key - JAWS Key+3 and then press Enter to open the sub menue and then use arrows. Doesn't always work but sometimes you need to try a number of different options. -- Mark Fisher Manager - People Systems Water Corporation of Western Australia
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Re: End Insertion/Insertion
Karen Reynolds
Hi Tom, If I remember this from the program the other day these are inline frames. You don’t want to turn them off globally. It will turn off things like youtube videos in the middle of pages too. Go to setting center, use control shift W instread of d. Then type inline in the search box and arrow down and check or uncheck it. Press enter and then ok. It will be gone for that page. I’ve also discovered that sometimes f9 gives just the article and not those ads.
Karen
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion
I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.
Does anyone know how this can be turned off?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99 price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that.
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Re: End Insertion/Insertion
Tom Behler
I’ve been seeing this on certain web pages, and it’s actually quite anoying.
Does anyone know how this can be turned off?
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 6:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: End Insertion/Insertion
While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99 price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that.
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Re: help with jaws and a filter.
Joseph Machise
Hi rod using outlook express and windows7
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod & Ele Macdonald" <erjmacdonald@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Re: help with jaws and a filter. Hello Joseph, Can you please provide more information about your system? Are you really using Outlook Express, or is it Outlook? And if it is Outlook, what version (2010, 2013, 2016, 2019, 221 or 365, or from Outlook.com)? And what version of Windows? If it is Outlook and Windows 10/11, you can reach the "Create Rule" dialog by pressing AltH, R, R, U. Or you can reach the Rules & Alerts manager with Alt+R, R, L. In Outlook 2021 this can be found on the File tab. Rod Macdonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...> To: main@jfw.groups.io CC: Date: Friday, July 22, 2022 4:52 am Subject: help with jaws and a filter.
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Re: End Insertion/Insertion
Cohn, Jonathan
While this might happen in some places, this sounds like a new JAWS feature related to tracking changes in documents. One place you might see this is on a shopping site where the price is listed as 12.99 and then crossed out and a 8.99 price is glowing in your face. There is a rather new feature in HTML to indicate that.
I would expect that the JAWS features provided in Microsoft Word for reading with track changes should also control this on web pages, but I don't remember the details.
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