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Re: announcing punctuation

judith bron
 

Thanks! Got it0021

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 5:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: announcing punctuation

Press Insert-V, then press P. You'll get Progress Bar first.
Down Arrow. Mine is on some, just hit space bar until you get the one you
want, none, some, most or all, then Escape.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of judith
bron
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: announcing punctuation

How do I set Jaws 16 to announce punctuation? Thanks, Judith


Re: announcing punctuation

judith bron
 

Thanks.  I have it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: announcing punctuation

 

Hi Judith,

 

Do you want Jaws to speak certain punctuation, or not to speak certain punctuation?  Or, do you want Jaws to read more / less punctuation?  If you just want Jaws to speak more or less punctuation in a certain application / program do the following:

1. While in the particular application / program press, Jaws key + V, to open quick settings.

2. Arrow down to, Punctuation, it's under Editing Options.  You toggle through the options by pressing the spacebar.  Your options are none, some, most, & all.  If you want more punctuation spoken choose Most, or All.  After making your selection tab to, Okay, press enter to save your change, & close quick settings.

 

If you are wanting to have Jaws speak or not speak just certain punctuation try the following:

Note: The apostrophy  & dollar sign are only examples.

You can change how Jaws speaks the apostrophy in the Settings Centter
default all applications by doing the following.  If you only want to change
the punctuation settings in a particular application just open the Settings
Center while in the particular application by pressing Insert + 6, on the
number row above the main keyboard to open the Settings Center for that particular application:

1. Press Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard to open the
Settings Center, & press, Control, shift, + D, to open default all
applications.
2. Arrow down to, Punctuation closed & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to customize punctuation & press the spacebar to open.  Don't
press enter here, if you press enter instad of the spacebar, the Settings
Center will close.
4.A. When making changes in the customize punctuation list, if you do not
want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

4.B. After you pressed the spacebar on customize punctuation, you are now in
a list of punctuation marks.  Arrow down the list and when
you have the punctuation mark you want to change highlighted, tab 1 time to
the radio buttons that I mentioned earlier.
5. Keeping in mind what I mentioned earlier about these choices working
backwards, select the box in this list, in your case not wanting any
apostrophy's spoken, choose the all button.
6. Now, if you want to make a change to another punctuation mark, shift tab
back to the list and highlight a different punctuation mark, tab back to the
radio buttons and select the box you prefer.
7. After you are done making your changes tab to okay and press the
spacebar.
8. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, press the spacebar to save
your changes & close the Settings Center.

Now, I hope that you are not as confused as I am after typing all of this.
LOL  Hope this has helped.

 

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 2:13 PM

Subject: announcing punctuation

 

How do I set Jaws 16 to announce punctuation?  Thanks, Judith


minimizing a document

judith bron
 

Another recovery question.  How do  you minimize a document?  Thanks, Judith


Re: Windows Live Mail

Dennis Brown
 

Fixed it by maximizing the window!  Odd.
 

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:18 PM
Subject: Windows Live Mail
 
I lost my menus in WLM, and can’t find how to get them back, and when I’m in the folder list, tab won’t do anything, so I can’t get into the folders.
I tried to activate Jaws Virtual Ribbon, but it doesn’t seem to activate either.  Is it dependent upon the program’s ribbon being active?


Re: Date Format

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

What is irritating to me is that JAWS does say March 17,
2017, when I type 03/17/2017, but it also will say 1 March
4th, when I write 1 3/4. 1 3/4

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Date Format

I know dates may be read out by Jaws in different formats,
but I'm unaware of any way to get Jaws to say, March 17,
2017 when the date is formatted as 2017-03-17. Of course,
3/17/2017 works just fine.



The YYYY-MM-DD ensures dates will sort correctly, even when
treated as text fields, and we have some business procedures
that call for the YYYY-MM-DD format.

I suppose one might write a script, but that hardly seems
worth the effort. I can do lots of converting in my head
for the time it would take to write a script.



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Re: Windows Live Mail

Dennis Brown
 

No, but I did a windows update.  I’ll restore and see if that fixes it.
 

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail
 
Are you using a to Shiba laptop? The most recent windows update seems to have messed up my Toshiba laptop keyboard. My tech guy says other two Sheba laptops have been infected in the same way. Hope this is not your case. I bring this up because the tab key is one of the keyboard keys that were adversely affected. Stan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

You should be able to use the generic Windows Keyboard Shortcut of straight ALT to force the menu to reappear, even if just for that moment to allow you to access whichever menu you want.  I can't find the usual "Toolbars" control under the View Menu (ALT+V) that would allow you to show or hide the menu bar and it's perpetually visible on my machine whether or not I've collapsed or expanded the ribbon.

Have you done a restart?  This might be one of those inexplicable "burps" that will rectify itself with a system restart.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Windows Live Mail

Dennis Brown
 

Alt just gives me Restore Minimize Maximize Close.  Very strange!
I wonder if I hit a full screen command or something.
Does the Jaws Virtual Ribbon not work unless a actual ribbon exists?
 

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail
 

You should be able to use the generic Windows Keyboard Shortcut of straight ALT to force the menu to reappear, even if just for that moment to allow you to access whichever menu you want.  I can't find the usual "Toolbars" control under the View Menu (ALT+V) that would allow you to show or hide the menu bar and it's perpetually visible on my machine whether or not I've collapsed or expanded the ribbon.

Have you done a restart?  This might be one of those inexplicable "burps" that will rectify itself with a system restart.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Date Format

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

I know dates may be read out by Jaws in different formats, but I’m unaware of any way to get Jaws to say, March 17, 2017 when the date is formatted as 2017-03-17.  Of course, 3/17/2017 works just fine.

 

The YYYY-MM-DD ensures dates will sort correctly, even when treated as text fields, and we have some business procedures that call for the YYYY-MM-DD format.

I suppose one might write a script, but that hardly seems worth the effort.  I can do lots of converting in my head for the time it would take to write a script.

 


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Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

Yes, of course, I was so focused on the "3" and usually refer to NumPad commands by their other function as in Insert+PageDown that I never thought of this.

Anyhow, I had the same problem at one point and it turned out that it was caused by Office (Outlook in this case) somewhere had a message about an update. Nowhere could this be accessed with Jaws, but once one of my staff clicked it and it disappeared I could hear the status line read out.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

Likely means the Insert + Numpad 3 key, not the number row 3.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 12:52

Subject: Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

What is Insert 3? If you are talking about Jaws then Insert 3 is the combination for "Pass Key Through".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

I just upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Outlook 2010 is now behaving strangely in that I cannot seem to read the status bar using Jaws, but can read it using System Access. When I press insert three, it says find a contact instead of the number of unread and total messages. We seem to be able to change it momentarily by maximizing the window again, and a bunch of other things, but the minute the program is closed and reopened, insert 3 says find a  contact again.

Thoughts?

Very very strange and annoying.

Sharon


Re: Changed link behaviour from emails

Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
 

You know what is weird is that mine always defaulted to IE even when my defaults were set to Firefox… Until I installed Classic Shell. Don’t get it, but whatever. It works now. LOL.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changed link behaviour from emails

 

Links do "auto default" to MS-Edge "out of the box" because MS-Edge is the default browser "out of the box".

As soon as you change your default browser links will be passed from the Win10 Mail App to the default browser you've set.  Just tested and mine go straight to Firefox no matter what e-mail client I'm using, and that includes the Win10 Mail App.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Changed link behaviour from emails

 

Links do "auto default" to MS-Edge "out of the box" because MS-Edge is the default browser "out of the box".

As soon as you change your default browser links will be passed from the Win10 Mail App to the default browser you've set.  Just tested and mine go straight to Firefox no matter what e-mail client I'm using, and that includes the Win10 Mail App.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

Dave...
 

Likely means the Insert + Numpad 3 key, not the number row 3.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 12:52
Subject: Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

What is Insert 3? If you are talking about Jaws then Insert 3 is the combination for "Pass Key Through".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

I just upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Outlook 2010 is now behaving strangely in that I cannot seem to read the status bar using Jaws, but can read it using System Access. When I press insert three, it says find a contact instead of the number of unread and total messages. We seem to be able to change it momentarily by maximizing the window again, and a bunch of other things, but the minute the program is closed and reopened, insert 3 says find a  contact again.

Thoughts?

Very very strange and annoying.

Sharon


Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
 

Insert and numpad 3 is a different command. That is the one she’s referring to.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

What is Insert 3? If you are talking about Jaws then Insert 3 is the combination for "Pass Key Through".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

I just upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Outlook 2010 is now behaving strangely in that I cannot seem to read the status bar using Jaws, but can read it using System Access. When I press insert three, it says find a contact instead of the number of unread and total messages. We seem to be able to change it momentarily by maximizing the window again, and a bunch of other things, but the minute the program is closed and reopened, insert 3 says find a  contact again.

Thoughts?

Very very strange and annoying.

Sharon


Re: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

What is Insert 3? If you are talking about Jaws then Insert 3 is the combination for "Pass Key Through".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Strange problem in MS Outlook 2010 and Windows 10

 

I just upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Outlook 2010 is now behaving strangely in that I cannot seem to read the status bar using Jaws, but can read it using System Access. When I press insert three, it says find a contact instead of the number of unread and total messages. We seem to be able to change it momentarily by maximizing the window again, and a bunch of other things, but the minute the program is closed and reopened, insert 3 says find a  contact again.

Thoughts?

Very very strange and annoying.

Sharon


Re: Changed link behaviour from emails

Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
 

Links auto-default to MS Edge. If you uninstalled it, which I've heard is
not a good idea, this may be one of the issues seen. Make sure link behavior
defaults to IE in the default programs section of the control panel.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerry
Ellis
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Changed link behaviour from emails

Hi,

I know this is more of a Windows 10 questions than a blindness question, but
I think it is relevant.

Ever since I "upgraded" to Windows 10 the way in which a link in an email is
treated has changed. The link used to be sent directly to Internet Explorer
and all the parameters that followed the URL were propogated with it. Now a
DOS command line box is opened and the link is executed through this.
Because of that, all of the parameters are treated like DOS command and, of
course, fail and only the URL is passed to IE. I often find that a date is
one of these parameters so DOS ends up asking me for a new system date.

Is this seen as a problem? Does anyone know how to change back to the old
behaviour?

Thanks.



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?

Knowledge loves to talk, wisdom loves to listen.


Re: Windows Live Mail

Stan Holdeman
 

Are you using a to Shiba laptop? The most recent windows update seems to have messed up my Toshiba laptop keyboard. My tech guy says other two Sheba laptops have been infected in the same way. Hope this is not your case. I bring this up because the tab key is one of the keyboard keys that were adversely affected. Stan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

You should be able to use the generic Windows Keyboard Shortcut of straight ALT to force the menu to reappear, even if just for that moment to allow you to access whichever menu you want.  I can't find the usual "Toolbars" control under the View Menu (ALT+V) that would allow you to show or hide the menu bar and it's perpetually visible on my machine whether or not I've collapsed or expanded the ribbon.

Have you done a restart?  This might be one of those inexplicable "burps" that will rectify itself with a system restart.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Windows Live Mail

 

You should be able to use the generic Windows Keyboard Shortcut of straight ALT to force the menu to reappear, even if just for that moment to allow you to access whichever menu you want.  I can't find the usual "Toolbars" control under the View Menu (ALT+V) that would allow you to show or hide the menu bar and it's perpetually visible on my machine whether or not I've collapsed or expanded the ribbon.

Have you done a restart?  This might be one of those inexplicable "burps" that will rectify itself with a system restart.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Windows Live Mail

Dennis Brown
 

I lost my menus in WLM, and can’t find how to get them back, and when I’m in the folder list, tab won’t do anything, so I can’t get into the folders.
I tried to activate Jaws Virtual Ribbon, but it doesn’t seem to activate either.  Is it dependent upon the program’s ribbon being active?


JAWS 18 and Windows 10

Sharon Clark
 

Hello,

 

I just bought a new laptop now running JAWS 18 and Windows 10 and now trying to customize JAWS, I have two issues that I thought someone may be able to help with:

1.        JAWS 18 seems to fluctuate with the speech when reading.  I have not found any rhyme or reason for this and thought maybe there was a setting I have forgotten about.

2.       How do I turn off the chimes that are given at the beginning and end of documents?

Thank You,

Sharon


Re: disabling Firefox's auto match

 

Mario,

        While it's not 100% complete (unless all are unchecked), doing the following will eliminate a huge amount of what I think you're describing by matching just by unchecking the first option.

  1. Open the Firefox Options tab by your preferred method.
  2. Activate the Privacy Pane.
  3. Find the Location Bar section.
  4. Uncheck any combination of the following three checkboxes:  History, Bookmarks, Open Tabs

I generally like the matching feature because it saves me typing.  The use of history to do this is what is generally considered the most annoying if you don't want it.  It's rather handy if you start typing something that you have bookmarked, or that you've got open already in another tab, to have Firefox show you the bookmark or tell you about that open tab.  But, if you want nothing, uncheck 'em all.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James