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Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Mario
 

Shannon, why not call the Microsoft Disability Helpdesk (800-936-5900)
to upgrade the computer for you. it's still free for users who need/use
adaptive technology. Windows 8.1 qualifies for the upgrade.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@bartchroofing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:43 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Randy ,

You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid to get
Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn't. Sigh.

Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version
coming out? Creator?

Oh boy!

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10 is
better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But to be fair
it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.
On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I don't
like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was
Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs
mentioned. Don't really know which is the culprit.



Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most
tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference
and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010. It can surf the web fine.






From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from
WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it
can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and
that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things
mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That
would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily
basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.



Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles
set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked
by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as WE did/does? I use that feature
everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping
software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can't tell, but
it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a
JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the
screen with the mouse?



Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to configure it I can't
tell what I can and can't do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three
programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most
likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do
the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon


Re: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Tony
 

Have you set Jaws to labelled graphics only?

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Yes, this happens for me if I open a .rar file in 7-zip.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Hey guys,
Curious if anyone has seen this, not sure what it is. In 1 of my programs, i am going to open a file. Si i go to file open, and find the location. As i'm arrowing up and down my file list, before every file, it says sever graphics, something like graphic 244, graphic 212, as an example. It's really annoying, any ideas what it could be?

Thanks,
Jed


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

You can still get win 10 for free.

On 5/17/2017 11:43 AM, Shannon wrote:

Randy ,

You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid to get Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn’t. Sigh.

Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version coming out? Creator?

Oh boy!

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10 is better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But to be fair it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.
On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I don’t like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs mentioned. Don’t really  know which is the culprit.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon

 

 



Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Hi,

At least for now, Window-Eyes will work on Windows 10 (including the latest release which is Creators Update), but that’s not always going to be so in the future. There are certain features introduced in later JAWS releases that makes Windows 10 and universal apps a bit easier to use, the most important of which is touch cursor (JAWS 15). There are also features that takes advantage of Windows 8.x and 10 functionality such as audio ducking (JAWS 18); regarding audio ducking, it has received mixed reviews.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Randy ,

You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid to get Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn’t. Sigh.

Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version coming out? Creator?

Oh boy!

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10 is better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But to be fair it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.
On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I don’t like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs mentioned. Don’t really  know which is the culprit.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon

 

 


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Shannon
 

Randy ,

You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid to get Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn’t. Sigh.

Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version coming out? Creator?

Oh boy!

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10 is better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But to be fair it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.
On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I don’t like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs mentioned. Don’t really  know which is the culprit.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon

 

 


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10 is better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But to be fair it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.

On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I don’t like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs mentioned. Don’t really  know which is the culprit.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon

 



Re: From Window-Eyes to JAWS

Maria Campbell
 

I wish you the very best of luck.  I could never get used to the difference between JAWS and WindowEyes, after being a Jaws user for a very long time.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 5/17/2017 1:40 PM, Stanley Haupt wrote:

I decided to take advantage of the offer from the VFO Group. This email list and the documentation for JAWS should help me to learn and use this screen reader.

 



Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Hi,

Another variable to consider: which Window-Eyes version are you coming from? If it’s less than 9, chances are that you may need to do some learning.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I don’t like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs mentioned. Don’t really  know which is the culprit.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon

 


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Shannon
 

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I don’t like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs mentioned. Don’t really  know which is the culprit.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon

 


From Window-Eyes to JAWS

Stanley Haupt
 

I decided to take advantage of the offer from the VFO Group. This email list and the documentation for JAWS should help me to learn and use this screen reader.

 


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Michael Mote
 

Hi Shannon!  JAWS offers a lot of helpful training materials that are free.  To locate these, navigate to the JAWS Window by pressing either Alt Tab or Insert plus the letter J.  Insert is also the 0 key on the number pad on a regular desktop keyboard, provided that your num lock setting is set to off.  Once you are there, press Alt plus the letter H to bring up the help menu.  Then you can use the arrow keys to find the training option.  Press enter to open this menu.  You should land in a table of contents for all of the training materials.  Depending on how JAWS was installed on your system, you can either select the particular module you are wanting to read, or download it.  You can use the arrow keys to navigate through the page, and find all of the choices.  I hope this is helpful for you.  Good luck!  I know that being a new JAWS user can be very overwhelming at first.  I was there and I haven’t forgotten how confusing it was for me.  I urge you to go through these training modules.  They will be very helpful to you.  They are guided as well with audio to listen to, if you don’t want to read the information. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I have win7 pro at home I agree with you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon

 


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference and most business's still use it.

On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon



Re: firefox and Google chrome

brian albriton
 

I'm running windows 7 and the browsers you mention. I get a lot of Internet explorer crashes as well.
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox and Google chrome

I'm running JAWS 18, Firefox 53.02 and Windows 10, and Firefox is running well. On the otherhand, Internet Explorer 11 crashes frequently.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: firefox and Google chrome

I am running Windows 10 64 bit and will soon be running JAWS. With my current screen reader, Window Eyes, I found that the 64 bit version of Firefox did not work well. Google Chrome 64 bit seems to work pretty well. Which versions of firefox and Google Chrome work best with JAWS?
As a newbee to JAWS I appreciate any help.


Re: forwarding a thunderbird question for another Window Eyes user reading mail as non threaded

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Call VFO. This was a issue for every Jaws user and they fixed it. I am not sure why you are still having the issue...

On 5/17/2017 9:15 AM, Brenda wrote:
I have been told be a very knowledgable person that using threaded view is necessary in Jaws and thatr I'm not the only one with the issue.


and I have latest Jaws and TB with win 7/64.

Brenda




On 5/17/2017 10:59 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:
If this person doesn't have JAWS 18 or an earlier version of TB, this is a problem.


lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/16/2017 9:32 PM, Dennis L wrote:

Hello List,

I'm trying to transition to Jaws starting with emailing which I am getting a lot of experience on lately.

I find with Jaws I have to view messages as threaded which I don't

like. Is there a way to read messages as unthreaded. Jaws doesn't seem

to read the titles unless threaded. Hoping there is a setting to be

changed.



Re: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

That's because the graphics are labeled. Not descriptively but label all the same. I set graphics verbosity to none. That will stop the behavior.

On 5/17/2017 7:59 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
Sadly, it's still doing it. When i go to open a file up in the
program i am using, it's the typical file open dialog. As i'm
arrowing up and down the files, it says graphic. Any ideas? It'll
say things like graphic 441, graphic 221, etc.

On 5/17/17, Tom Lange <lange85@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep, that'll do it, but to simplify things a little, just press insert+v to
get straight to settings center, and in the search box type the word
"graphics". Give it a couple of seconds to populate the search results, then
arrow down to the graphics option. press the space bar until Jaws says
"labeled", then press Enter and you're in business.

Sent from my iPhone 7

On May 17, 2017, at 3:36 AM, James Bentley <bentleyj1952@att.net> wrote:

Hello Jed,

I recommend that you change how Jaws reads graphics. Try this:

Run Jaws Manager with Insert F2.

Hit the letter S until you hear settings center and hit enter.

Down arrow until you hear Web / HTML / PDFs, and right arrow to open.

Hit the letter g until you hear graphics and labels, and right arrow to
open.

Hit the letter G until you hear graphics verbosity.

Use the space bar to toggle in between the different options. Choose
labeled graphics.

Tab to the apply button and hit enter. Then, tab around to the OK button
and hit enter. You are done.

Hope this helps,

James B

From: Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Hey guys,
Curious if anyone has seen this, not sure what it is. In 1 of my
programs, i am going to open a file. Si i go to file open, and find
the location. As i'm arrowing up and down my file list, before every
file, it says sever graphics, something like graphic 244, graphic 212,
as an example. It's really annoying, any ideas what it could be?

Thanks,
Jed



Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon


Re: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Jed Barton
 

any way to get rid of it?

On 5/17/17, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Yes, this happens for me if I open a .rar file in 7-zip.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: saying graphic as i arrow up and down a file list

Hey guys,
Curious if anyone has seen this, not sure what it is. In 1 of my programs,
i am going to open a file. Si i go to file open, and find the location. As
i'm arrowing up and down my file list, before every file, it says sever
graphics, something like graphic 244, graphic 212, as an example. It's
really annoying, any ideas what it could be?

Thanks,
Jed










Re: forwarding a thunderbird question for another Window Eyes user reading mail as non threaded

Brenda <bjnite@...>
 

I checked for updates as you said, and I am up-to-date - no new updates. I still have the issue. I have been told by experienced W-e to Jaws users that this is an issue and that I'm not alone.

Not sure how you are so lucky to have the issue fixed.

Thanks anyway.
brenda

On 5/17/2017 12:18 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
Just downloading the installer from VFO wont do it. You have to check for updates within Jaws. Bring up jaws then go to help then click check for updates. I had this happen just last week, I had to do a reinstall of windows and after reinstalling jaws the TB issue returned until I ran the update utility after it updated Jaws the problem was fixed...
On 5/16/2017 10:09 PM, Brenda wrote:
Hi List,

I do have the latest version of Jaws, I just checked, and if I don't use the threaded view jaws does not reat the message list.


Using windows 7/64 with latest Jaws and TB.


Is there another setting I'm missing?


Thanks for any help.

Brenda


On 5/16/2017 11:24 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
This is a bug in the new version of TB. you have to have the latest version of jaws to fix it. Or run an older version of TB and turn off updates.
On 5/16/2017 6:32 PM, Dennis L wrote:

Hello List,

I'm trying to transition to Jaws starting with emailing which I am getting a lot of experience on lately.

I find with Jaws I have to view messages as threaded which I don't

like. Is there a way to read messages as unthreaded. Jaws doesn't seem

to read the titles unless threaded. Hoping there is a setting to be

changed.





New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Shannon
 

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a “HotSpot” feature as WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can’t tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the screen with the mouse?

 

Since I am new and don’t know how it works and how to configure it I can’t tell what I can and can’t do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn’t like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon