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Re: stop update
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 08:19 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I never have and never will believe that automatic updates that the end user has no control over when needed is ever a good idea.- And having had to pick up the smoldering ashes, many times, of systems that were brought to that state by refusal to apply updates, we shall never agree. I believe the people who create and maintain operating systems, all of them, know far more than you do or I do. And someone now retired who was a BSOD expert on a forum I once frequented said it best, and is the final word for me:
~ John Carrona, AKA usasma on BleepingComputer.com, http://www.carrona.org/ --Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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Re: stop update
Gene Warner
The problem with your line of thinking is that the very entity that created the update and the system being updated cannot test it against all possible configurations, and there will always be configurations that updates will not work with and so cause serious problems for the end user.
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I never have and never will believe that automatic updates that the end user has no control over when needed is ever a good idea. Anyone who thinks that Microsoft or Apple or any other company knows everything and can be trusted to always put out well behaved updates is either very naive or simply don't care enough about the health of their system to be bothered. In which case you will eventually get what you deserve. I would love it if I didn't have to be concerned about what Microsoft pushes out, but even in the past few years there have been several times when Microsoft has had to withdraw an update to Windows because of the wide spread problems it creates. So I always do a full system backup on the Monday before each patch Tuesday, and pray that Microsoft gets it right this time. Gene... Gene... On 8/28/2022 8:03 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Re: stop update
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 07:52 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
power management, there is a link called some like "addition al power options" that allows you to tell Windows what to do if you do things like close the lid on your laptop.- 1. Open Control Panel. 2. Activate Power Options 3. Activate the Choose what closing the lid does link 4. Make your choices from the dropdowns under the On Battery and Plugged in categories. 5. Hit the Save Changes button. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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Re: stop update
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 07:49 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
On principle, I agree; however, having been a victim of automatic updates that do more harm than good, I figure that if someone wants to stop the update service they must have a good reason.- Gene, I can count on less than two hands, in my entire time in the computing industry, where an update has done more harm than good. The "bad update" as a common thing was always a figment of the imagination, and even when they occurred, and they did on rare occasion, the patch fixes were usually very prompt. This was before the age of Windows as a Service, where updates are not pushed out to all the world in one fell swoop, but initially in small sized cohorts, telemetry monitored, with each successive cohort getting larger until Microsoft is confident that it can go out to "the rest of the world." Most bad updates get stopped in their tracks quite early these days, and fixed before they ever make it to the majority of machines. So I cannot share your confidence that most who want to block updates have good reasons. My experience and observation suggests precisely the opposite, where an end user believes they know better than the very entity that invented and maintains the operating system they use. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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Re: stop update
Gene Warner
It will be very interesting to see your thoughts on the subject do a very quick 180 after you've had to deal with an update that does major harm to your system that you can't stop from being installed except to disable the update service.
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Gene... On 8/28/2022 7:54 PM, David Diamond wrote:
for what it's worth, people to prevent automatic updates, in my opinion, have serious control issues. In other words they want to control every single thing |
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Re: stop update
David Diamond
for what it's worth, people to prevent automatic updates, in my opinion, have serious control issues. In other words they want to control every single thing
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:49:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: stop update On principle, I agree; however, having been a victim of automatic
updates that do more harm than good, I figure that if someone wants to stop the update service they must have a good reason. Gene... On 8/28/2022 7:37 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: > It needs to be said that in the age of Windows as a Service (Windows 10 > and 11) that blocking updates is very ill-advised, for any reason. It > wasn't a great idea in the past, either. A word to the wise is sufficient. > -- > > Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 > > *Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. > If you’re alive, it isn’t. > * ~ Lauren Bacall > > |
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Re: stop update
Gene Warner
I don't have a step by step guide for you, but I can tell you that the place where you can set that up is in power management, there is a link called some like "addition al power options" that allows you to tell Windows what to do if you do things like close the lid on your laptop.
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Gene... On 8/28/2022 4:52 PM, meow meow wrote:
thanks you so much I hope I did it and did exacly follow what u said thenks again |
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Re: stop update
Gene Warner
On principle, I agree; however, having been a victim of automatic updates that do more harm than good, I figure that if someone wants to stop the update service they must have a good reason.
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Gene... On 8/28/2022 7:37 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
It needs to be said that in the age of Windows as a Service (Windows 10 and 11) that blocking updates is very ill-advised, for any reason. It wasn't a great idea in the past, either. A word to the wise is sufficient. |
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It needs to be said that in the age of Windows as a Service (Windows 10 and 11) that blocking updates is very ill-advised, for any reason. It wasn't a great idea in the past, either. A word to the wise is sufficient.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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Re: stop update
meow meow
thanks you so much I hope I did it and did exacly follow what u said thenks again
do u know how to setting up when I close the lid and it shut down right away? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:13 PM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: stop update This will disable the Windows update service so that Windows will not be able to detect, download, or install any updates. |
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Re: stop update
Gene Warner
This will disable the Windows update service so that Windows will not be able to detect, download, or install any updates.
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1. Press the Windows key to bring up the search box. 2. Type in "services" without the quotes, then press Enter, this will open the services manager. 3. Press tab to get over to the list of services. 4. Press W to get down to the services beginning with W. 5. Down arrow until you get to the service named "Windows update", then press Enter to open the service properties dialog. 6. Press tab until you get to the startup type drop down list, then down arros to disabled. 7. Press Enter to save the change, then restart Windows. Windows update is now disabled. Should you ever want to re enable Windows update, repeat the above steps but at step 6 you will want to select manual as the startup type. Gene... On 8/28/2022 3:52 PM, meow meow wrote:
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stop update
meow meow
hi Rosie here...
window 11 and jaws 22
how can I stop window update itself?
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Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
If you happen to be using any sort of "crap cleaner" program such as System Ninja, BleachBit, CCleaner, or similar most of them have a checkbox for clearing the most recently used (MRU) list.
I have System Ninja and BleachBit on my system. In System Ninja the checkbox is for Recent Files and in BleachBit it is under the Windows Explorer section and the checkbox is Run. Regardless of which of these utilities you might have, if you're using one it's worth looking for a checkbox for MRU, Most Recent, or Recent or similar and verify it's for the most recently used list. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. |
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Re: Dropbox navigation
Mike B.
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Hi Klaus,
Are you saying the file / folder you want to delete isn't
showing in your Dropbox local folder on your computer?
If you log into your Dropbox account at Dropbox.com, can
you find it and delete it there?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message -----
From: Klaus Vielhauer
To: Jaws Forum
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 1:01 AM
Subject: Dropbox navigation Ihave to delete an unintended large backup file that exceed my space limit but cannot go to any application settings. I have no problem with folder action but the file in question does not show up here. Please help - all synchronization has stopped and I am told to pay for more memory but I rather want to delete the file. Klaus |
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Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
Mike B.
Hi Albert,
Okay, try the following:
1. From the desktop press enter on the, This PC icon, if you have one, or press, Windows key + E, to open File / Windows Explorer 2. Press, Alt + F, then press the letter, O, to open File Explorer folder options. If the above doesn't open Folder Options, try it
this way, press, Alt + F, then tab twice to, Change folder and search options,
and press enter.
3, Tab to the, Privacy clear button, and press the spacebar. 4. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar and Alt + F4 to close. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message -----
From: Albert Cutolo
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:18 AM
Subject: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box. Good morning everyone,
Using windows 10 and the latest jaws 2022, How would I be able too empty the history from the run dialogue box? |
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Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
Bill White
Hi again, Albert. On the other hand, if you want to clear the Run history, and have it stay clear,
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1. Open Control Panel. 2. Start typing “File Explorer Options. 3. When File Explorer Options appears, Press Enter. 4. On General Tab, SHIFT TAB five times to the Privacy Clear Button and press ENTER. This should clear the Run dialogue. Now, to keep it clear, 1. Open Windows Settings with Windows Key plus I. 2. Arrow to Privacy, and press ENTER. 3. On the General TAB, turn off the setting which reads, Let Windows track app launches to improve Start and search results Now the Run Dialog will be clear and stay clear. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:22 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box. Hi Gene, When I used too use windows seven, the process seemed too be much easier then with windows 10. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 9:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box. There are a couple of ways, one way is by editing the registry but I don't recommend that unless you are comfortable with editing the registry because if you make a mistake here you could end up with a non functioning Windows. Here it is: How can I clear the Run history? John Savill | Jan 08, 2000 A. The Run history is stored in the registry in location HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RunMRU as a series of values a-z. To delete an entry from the run menu perform the following: Start the registry editor (regedit.exe) Move to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RunMRU Select the entry you wish to remove, e.g. h Press the Del key (or select Edit - Delete) and click Yes to the confirmation Double click the MRUList value and remove the letter you just deleted. Click OK to save the change Close the registry editor If you want to clear the whole Run list you can use the TweakUI utility Start the TweakUI control panel applet (Start - Settings - Control Panel - TweakUI) Click the Paranoia tab :-) Check the "Clear Run history at logon" Click the "Clear Selected Items Now" You can then either clear the check on "Clear Run history at logon" and click OK or leave it checked to automatically clear the Run at logon Here is a link to the actual web page where I got this, you may want to look at it because it has a link to the Tweak UI utility. https://www.itprotoday.com/devops-and-software-development/how-can-i-clear-run-history Gene... On 8/28/2022 9:18 AM, Albert Cutolo wrote: Good morning everyone, |
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Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
Gene Warner
I can't say myself because I've never really bothered with clearing out histories, all too often I find those histories a useful reference.
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Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
Bill White
To empty the Run History, but not prevent new entries from being logged into the Run History, 1. Open Control Panel. 2. Start typing “File Explorer Options. 3. When File Explorer Options appears, Press Enter. 4. On General Tab, SHIFT TAB five times to the Privacy Clear Button and press ENTER. This should clear the Run dialogue.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
Good morning everyone,
Using windows 10 and the latest jaws 2022, How would I be able too empty the history from the run dialogue box? |
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Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
Albert Cutolo
Hi Gene,
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When I used too use windows seven, the process seemed too be much easier then with windows 10. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 9:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box. There are a couple of ways, one way is by editing the registry but I don't recommend that unless you are comfortable with editing the registry because if you make a mistake here you could end up with a non functioning Windows. Here it is: How can I clear the Run history? John Savill | Jan 08, 2000 A. The Run history is stored in the registry in location HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RunMRU as a series of values a-z. To delete an entry from the run menu perform the following: Start the registry editor (regedit.exe) Move to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RunMRU Select the entry you wish to remove, e.g. h Press the Del key (or select Edit - Delete) and click Yes to the confirmation Double click the MRUList value and remove the letter you just deleted. Click OK to save the change Close the registry editor If you want to clear the whole Run list you can use the TweakUI utility Start the TweakUI control panel applet (Start - Settings - Control Panel - TweakUI) Click the Paranoia tab :-) Check the "Clear Run history at logon" Click the "Clear Selected Items Now" You can then either clear the check on "Clear Run history at logon" and click OK or leave it checked to automatically clear the Run at logon Here is a link to the actual web page where I got this, you may want to look at it because it has a link to the Tweak UI utility. https://www.itprotoday.com/devops-and-software-development/how-can-i-clear-run-history Gene... On 8/28/2022 9:18 AM, Albert Cutolo wrote: Good morning everyone, |
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Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box.
Joseph Machise
thanks for your help
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From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Question on how too empty the run dialogue box. AS long as you can find everything the instructions tell you to look for, you should be safe. But as soon as you can't find anything, I'd recommend bailing out. You could also follow the the link to the web page then follow the link in the web page to the Tweak UI utility. The reason I keep saying be careful is because one small wrong move in the registry could leave you with needing to reinstall Windows from scratch, I know because I've been there. Gene... On 8/28/2022 10:00 AM, Joseph Machise wrote: Well Gene, not to familiar with it thanks. |
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