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Re: Converting PDF files to Word from the file instead of Word
Curtis Chong
You know, there is a much easier way to open a PDF file from inside of Word. To begin with, find the PDF file with File Explorer and press CTRL+C to copy to the Clipboard. Next, open Word into a blank document. Press CTRL+F12 to bring up the Open dialog and paste with CTRL+V. Press Enter. Simple.
Kindly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 4:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Converting PDF files to Word from the file instead of Word
HI.
As I posted earlier, thanks to your suggestions, I now have a fairly convenient way to bring up a PDF file in Word for conversion to a DOCX file. However, my original approach does work, and there will be times when it’s even more convenient. I’ll describe it again.
With focus on the PDF file, open it from the applications/shift-F10 menu. Find “Open with” either by arrowing up or with the letter h. Press enter.
Word isn’t listed as one of the program options, so I find my way to “Other.” It takes a while, but Word eventually shows up. After clicking “Word,” the document reappears. Same text, but same PDF extension. I expected the .DOCX extension.
That threw me, but once the file has been converted, use F12, the “save as” command. Now the DOCX extension is included with the filename. The process is identical to the Word approach, except this time you don’t need to search for the file through a dialog. Just place focus against it.
I haven’t figured out how to make Word one of the default options in the “Open with” dialog. If anyone ever does, please post the steps.
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Re: Win 11 2022 H2
nocm@...
Hello Marie,
Windows 11 22H2 has a bunch of different problems when it comes to the
installation and upgrading of the program. With the removal of the option
to install a local account if the option to keep nothing is selected during the
upgrade process then you will run into access problems with the pin code
creation that the install requires. If you choose the upgrade option from
Windows 11 21H2 and your account is configured as a local account prior to the
install then you will not run into the pin code problem.
The sound card drivers have been updated for many of the realtek sound
cards and the sound quality is absolutely horrible compared to how it was
before. Other realtek sound cards as well as other brands of sound cards
don't seem to have the problem; but figuring out which ones will have the
problem and which ones will not is a pure guessing game.
The next problem you may run into is after the reboot that takes place
during the upgrade you might lose all speech. Jaws does not always restart
and narrator will launch; but does not speek after the reboot to finish the
upgrade.
Additional problems may also happen related to the pin code that non local
accounts require as narrator will be the only form of speech that you will have
access to as this prompt will come up before Jaws has the opportunity to load
and on several brands of machines narrator will not access the field for
creating or verifying the pin code.
22H2 also requires that you have an active connection to the internet
during the upgrade process as it will not allow upgrading or installation
without an internet connection.
Microsoft is aware of many of these problems and they have come out with 3
updates to 22H2 since it's release to the public less than 3 weeks ago and they
are planning additional updates in the coming days as the release has a lot of
problems with it and it was released before a lot of the problems could be
addressed according to the Microsoft technicians that support the program.
There are also other problems with known systems that should be capable of
upgrading that they are not even making the upgrade available to yet because
they know it will crash the system that it is attempting to upgrade.
I hope this helps.
Kevin
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 00:28:27 +0000 "Marie Nelson" <scribbles5@...> writes:
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Re: Win 11 2022 H2
Marie Nelson
Great, it must have been an isolated occurrence. Marie
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Win 11 2022 H2
Marie, Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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JAWS2023.2210.14 Beta 3 Direct Download link, Report Form Link + What's New
Mike B.
Hi All,
Below is the direct download link for Beta 3 J2023 build
2210.14 along with the Beta report form direct link and what's new in this
version.
Download link:
Beta report form: Link to the info below plus much more:
Enhancements in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2023 Public Beta 3
The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 2 and
Public Beta 3. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are
included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes. Enhancements in JAWS 2023 Public Beta 3
list of 12 items • In the Outlook Scheduling Assistant, JAWS now reads as expected in the All Attendees field when reviewing the status of meeting attendees. • Resolved a customer reported issue where the Windows 11 Clipboard history was not being shown in braille. • Addressed a reported issue with launching the LibreOffice Calc application while JAWS was running. • Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS crashed when attempting to modify a key label through the Manage Key Labels dialog box in Settings Center. • When encountering an element or entering a region on a web page that has a details relation, JAWS now says "has details" when you first move to the element. You can then press ALT+INSERT+D to access the details. • Resolved an issue where JAWS was not speaking the state of the FN key on the Microsoft Surface Pro X. • If JAWS and ZoomText are running together after being individually started, ZoomText's Tethered View feature is now available when INSERT+F7 is pressed to list links on a web page just like with Fusion. • Addressed an issue where the Wikipedia, Technology News from CNet, and Fox News Stories Research It lookup sources were not returning any results. • Resolved an issue in the JAWS Script Manager where JAWS was saying "selection deleted" after pressing BACKSPACE or DELETE and nothing was selected. • After deleting a block of text, JAWS now announces the current character with focus before indicating the selection was deleted. • For Italian users, MathML content is now spoken correctly when the JAWS language is set to Italian. • Made Numerous improvements to stability and performance. list end Enhancements in ZoomText and Fusion 2023 Public Beta 3
list of 6 items • ZoomText is often run on computers with multiple display adapters (integrated and dedicated). After installing ZoomText, it was observed that only the integrated display adapter was available. The dedicated display adapter would not appear until ZoomText was restarted. This issue has been resolved. • Resolved an issue where the focus locator would not display when pressing the SHIFT or CTRL modifier keys. • Microsoft Mail no longer crashes after selecting the Open message in new window button. • Resolved an issue where the magnified window was too narrow when the Zoom Window type was set to Line mode. • The installer dialog boxes now appear in Kazakh when installing the Kazakh version of ZoomText. • Resolved an issue where text in the About dialog box was cut off for several locales in ZoomText. list end Take care. Mike. Sent from my
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Converting PDF files to Word from the file instead of Word
Adrian Spratt
HI.
As I posted earlier, thanks to your suggestions, I now have a fairly convenient way to bring up a PDF file in Word for conversion to a DOCX file. However, my original approach does work, and there will be times when it’s even more convenient. I’ll describe it again.
With focus on the PDF file, open it from the applications/shift-F10 menu. Find “Open with” either by arrowing up or with the letter h. Press enter.
Word isn’t listed as one of the program options, so I find my way to “Other.” It takes a while, but Word eventually shows up. After clicking “Word,” the document reappears. Same text, but same PDF extension. I expected the .DOCX extension.
That threw me, but once the file has been converted, use F12, the “save as” command. Now the DOCX extension is included with the filename. The process is identical to the Word approach, except this time you don’t need to search for the file through a dialog. Just place focus against it.
I haven’t figured out how to make Word one of the default options in the “Open with” dialog. If anyone ever does, please post the steps.
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Mike Pietruk
Adrian
Glad it worked out. Tying this to another thread which discussed the value of 3rd party support lists such as this, I doubt that a company run list would have accepted all this brain storming which ultimately provided a bunch of alternative ways to get the job done. Day-to-day users of a product such as Jaws often figure out ways to get tasks done which may not exactly fit a software developer's official playbook. And sometimes these approaches, when discovered by developers such as those at Freedom Scientific, may eventually evolve themselves into more formal acceptance. Hopefully, many of us on this list have picked up something from this give and take which will make our computer life more hassle free down the road. |
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Re: Win 11 2022 H2
molly the blind tech lover
If your computer has the Intel SSt driver you may experience audio issues.
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Re: Win 11 2022 H2
Marie,
I have not seen any reports of issues with sound and JAWS under Windows 11 Version 22H2 on either this group of the JAWS User's Group. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Adrian Spratt
Justin, absolutely, but I wanted to get that streamlined method down. Now I have it, as I just posted. Thanks for making the suggestion.
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 3:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Can you move the pdf file to the desktop or something like that?
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Thanks, tom. Also helpful. My problem with this method is so basic as to be embarrassing. I can’t readily navigate to the file I want.
To illustrate, I have a PDF file in my documents folder. However, when I highlight the documents folder in the “Open” dialog, it lists only the first 32 items, none of which is that PDF file.
Can someone explain how to bring up the full contents of a folder in this open dialog?
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I do this by opening Word, and then pressing control F12, which accesses the PDF file converter. once I have located the PDF I need to convert, I hit open, and the file conversion proceeds.
And, I’ve been very happy with the results in most cases.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:52 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Adrian Spratt
Thanks, Mike. Yes, that's what I was doing, but both methods are a little less convenient. Thankfully, as I've just posted, Brian led me to the solution.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 3:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents. Adrian Is there a way you can copy the path to the file and just enter that into Word? Or, move the file to a folder with less files? Just thinking out loud!! |
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Adrian Spratt
I took each of the steps you indicated, but here I picked up a hint that solves the problem. By typing the first letter of the filename in the edit field, the list presented to me included all the “c” items. Not all were PDF files, even though I’d specified PDF in the relevant field. But no matter because now I could perform the conversion.
For future reference, the resulting file kept the PDF extension. When I closed the file, only the PDF version appeared in the folder. However, on repeating the opening procedure, even though the PDF extension persisted, I closed with “save as.” This time the DOCX extension appeared in the filename.
The list of documents in the folder now contains both the PDF and DOCX versions. This is reassuring because I didn’t want to lose the format of the original PDF.
Thanks. This is a hurdle I long needed to get over.
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 3:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 02:54 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
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Win 11 2022 H2
Marie Nelson
A week or so ago, I was told that there was a problem with Jaws sound on this latest version of Win 11. Does anyone on the list know if this has been fixed? I am being offered the update on my desktop, but hesitate to install it just now. Any other issues that we should be aware of? Thanks, Marie
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Justin Williams
Can you move the pdf file to the desktop or something like that?
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Thanks, tom. Also helpful. My problem with this method is so basic as to be embarrassing. I can’t readily navigate to the file I want.
To illustrate, I have a PDF file in my documents folder. However, when I highlight the documents folder in the “Open” dialog, it lists only the first 32 items, none of which is that PDF file.
Can someone explain how to bring up the full contents of a folder in this open dialog?
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I do this by opening Word, and then pressing control F12, which accesses the PDF file converter. once I have located the PDF I need to convert, I hit open, and the file conversion proceeds.
And, I’ve been very happy with the results in most cases.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:52 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 02:54 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Can someone explain how to bring up the full contents of a folder in this open dialog?- No, because if you have a folder with many, many files it's nor possible to display them all. The Open dialog is scrollable when there are many files (there's a standard scroll bar on the right), but you shouldn't even need to do that. As I mentioned earlier, use the tools the open dialog gives you to limit what's shown. If you go to the file types dropdown that's the next control beyond file name, and choose PDF files, then only PDF files will be presented in the Open dialog. [Warning, this choice "sticks" until you change it to something else, typically back to Word documents.] In addition, you can use file name in conjunction with whatever happens to be in the file type selection provided what's in the file type selection is: 1. All files, which shows every blessed file type. 2. The specific file type it is you're looking for, PDF Files in this case. If you have, say, three PDF files named ABC.pdf, JKL.pdf, and XYZ.pdf. If you type JK in the file name field, provided you are using the all file types or PDF file type, a list instantly appears that you can arrow through which would, in this example, be composed of files (or files and folders if all files is chosen) that begin with the letters JK. This technique works in any Open Dialog, not just in Word, since the Open Dialog is a Windows function that all programs get to via a system call. It has precisely the same look and feel in every program, though the specific file types can be set by the program that calls for an Open dialog so that only pertinent options are in that File Type list. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Mike Pietruk
Adrian
Is there a way you can copy the path to the file and just enter that into Word? Or, move the file to a folder with less files? Just thinking out loud!! |
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Adrian Spratt
Thanks, tom. Also helpful. My problem with this method is so basic as to be embarrassing. I can’t readily navigate to the file I want.
To illustrate, I have a PDF file in my documents folder. However, when I highlight the documents folder in the “Open” dialog, it lists only the first 32 items, none of which is that PDF file.
Can someone explain how to bring up the full contents of a folder in this open dialog?
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
I do this by opening Word, and then pressing control F12, which accesses the PDF file converter. once I have located the PDF I need to convert, I hit open, and the file conversion proceeds.
And, I’ve been very happy with the results in most cases.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:52 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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Outlook 2016 calendar
Kevin Meyers
Hello, I’m using the most recent version of Outlook 2016 and Jaws2022. This has happen before and once again. What happens out of the clear blue is as I’m tabbing through my calendar that is set to month view, I run into a over flow button. Some times it will say the appointment after it says over flow button and other times it just say over flow button. After a few tabs Jaws will just read the subject of the appointment and the other information. In the past I switch to day and then Jaws will read day view and then the appointment. Just like over flow button it will read it before the appoinment subject and other times it doesn’t say day view. Not sure what is causing the problem. Microsoft accessibility said the problem might be when I have multiple appointments on one day. They couldn’t get Jaws to stop reading over flow button or day view. Any thoughts of what could be causing the problem? Is there a way to change columns of what shows up first on an appointment? I do this in a folder so an email will read things like subject, date, from, etc. Cheers, Kevin |
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Tom Behler
I do this by opening Word, and then pressing control F12, which accesses the PDF file converter. once I have located the PDF I need to convert, I hit open, and the file conversion proceeds.
And, I’ve been very happy with the results in most cases.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 1:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:52 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
Adrian Spratt
Useful. Thanks.
-- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 1:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:52 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
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Re: jaws, using Word to read and convert pdf documents.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 03:52 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
I figure the way to do the conversion is to open the PDF file from “Open with.”- Nope. You just open the file from within Word itself, and you change the file type in the open dialog to PDF so that Word will show PDF files in the folder you're looking at. When you open a PDF in Word, it is converted to DOCX format. While that conversion may not be 100% perfect, it's awfully good. I just opened a PDF that I get that is a service authorization that includes a lot of formatting, including a table, and it's all still there. You do occasionally lose some formatting, and you even get a warning to that effect when you attempt to open the file. That's just a side effect of any file format conversion. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore |
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