Hi guys:

I am using goldwave to edit mp3 files.

When I move the start and finish markers around,

Jaws is telling me where they left from, not what their positions are when they land.

So,

If my start marker is set at the beginning of the file,

The start marker will be at 0.000 seconds.

If I ove the marker with shift+right arrow, it should say 0.100 seconds as I move by one tenth of a second;

Instead jaws says 0.000 seconds, (the place it was before I moved the marker.

It is like Jaws needs to wait to tell me where the markers are only after the markers settle down.

I hope this makes sense to you all.

Jaws professional edition;

Version 2022.2207.25 ILM 

Goldwave 6.65

Goldwave 5 and 6 scripts are loaded.

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

Alright.

And you are on the google search page, when this happens?

Or I should say, you want to be on the google search page … but you don’t know if it’s actually being displayed?

No, what I  did,  is, is even though I now have the router on, even with the virtual cursor on, when I try navigating the headings with the H key, It just says HHH and won’t advance.  I can get on to the net just fine, with no problem. This problem just seems too have occurred on both mine, and My girlfriends computers.  She has an HP laptop computer with windows 10, and the latest Jaws 2022, and I have a dell laptop computer with latest Jaws 2022, and also, windows 10.       

The router?

So are you saying you have no internet connection/can’t do anything on the internet?

I think you’re hearing “h h h “ because the virtual cursor is off. It’s the virtual cursor/buffer that allows you to do things like navigate by headings. Otherwise, you’re just pressing the h key, and adding the letter hs to something, probably in the address bar. You can press f6 to move away from the address bar.

Good afternoon Mr.  Casey, 

It seems that when I perform a search with the virtual cursor

On, and try using the H key too navigate headings on a web page, It just keeps saying, HHH, and won’t advance too the next headings.  I even tried doing a refresh command using the control R key function, as well as performing a screen redraw using the insert escape key, and no luck. When I called the Microsoft disability answer desk last evening, they suggested that I unplug the router.  When I turned the router back on, I got the same result.  So as both you and brian can see, I’m really trying everything here, too explain what’s happening here.    

What you’ve described, though I’m sure it reflects what you actually did, doesn’t seem to make sense.

The virtual cursor would be off for you to enter text, but not to read it on a webpage. If you move focus to the address bar, the virtual cursor will also not be on in that area. The virtual cursor being on or off doesn’t effect what text coems up. It does however affect what you can do with the keyboard.

Hi, 

What I did, was put the name of the restaurant, and then requested the phone number of it.  When I turned the virtual cursor off, and then tried it again,  the phone number came up.       

What’s interesting is that Albert seems to indicate that an expected behaviour has changed recently. I don’t know what that means.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 11:48 AM, JM Casey wrote:

Well, never really occurred to me to just type a phone number into the address bar before, but yeah, it works

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Same here, on both counts.  I'm generally trying to look up a phone number rather than using one for a reverse look-up.

And my default search engine is not Google, but even with an alternative default search engine a phone number entered in the address bar (omnibar, really) followed by enter triggers a search using the search engine you have set as default.  Accuracy is much better if the phone number has punctuation than when it's a straight string of numbers with no separation between groupings.
 
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Bill:

This has been an ongoing thing with Chrome which I suspect most of us just ignore with more than a little annoyance. This problem is outweighed in my mind by the positives which I experience using this browser. We have lots of stuff like that in our world. For example, JAWS often repeats things that we don’t want or need to hear. Honestly, I haven’t found a way around this except to press CTRL or just wait<smile>.

Best regards,

Curtis Chong

Sometimes, and quite often, when I start Google Chrome, before the page comes up, JAWS says,

Untitled - Google Chrome

Is anyone else experiencing this, and is it happening in a certain situation? Is there a fix for this besides using another browser?

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

Mine does that all the time. However, once I either enter a web page to go to or choose a Favorite, then JAWS stops saying that. Honestly, it doesn’t bother me at all.

Lori Lynn

Sometimes, and quite often, when I start Google Chrome, before the page comes up, JAWS says,

Untitled - Google Chrome

Is anyone else experiencing this, and is it happening in a certain situation? Is there a fix for this besides using another browser?

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


Sounds like you were having a problem with Jaws loding, but not fully
loding when starting or rebooting for a long time.
I know several people that this happens to, and a little trick to know
when this happens is to do the following.
After your computer starts and Jaws is running press, Insert + J, to
open the Jaws context menu. Now right arrow and if you don't get a
Jaws menu option like, Basics, and you get the System context menu
instead your Jaws isn't fully loaded.
Close Jaws with, Insert + F4, and restart using a Jaws shortcut
keystroke, typing, jaws2022, into the Run dialog and press enter, or
press enter on your Jaws desktop icon to restart and Jaws should start
fully loaded.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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*From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2022 1:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

One thing I have noticed about JAWS when it is run from the start menu
instead of from the registry. It seems to be a whole lot more
consistent about reading everything that it is supposed to be reading.
I was having a lot of problems with JAWS not reading things it should
be, but now that it has been run from the start menu, or better yet,
through a shortcut, it is reading everything.

I wonder if it would be worth my time telling Vispero about this and
the system tray icon problem, or if I'd just be ignored as is usually the case.

Gene...


On 8/22/2022 2:31 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:
> Just noticed I cannot find the JAWS item in my system tray either.
If it's helpful, I'm still running version 2022.2202.38 ILM on this
laptop. I could pull up the application menu with the regular insert
key and J, but not with Caps lock and J.
>
> Robin
> JAWS 2022 and Windows 10
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> Yeah, it's just not normal behavior and I want to figure it out if
at all possible because abnormal behavior means that something isn't
quite right.
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> On 8/22/2022 1:01 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>> Hey Gene.
>> So, I'm just curious -- if the method of accessign jaws works as
expected, why restart jaws just to get it to appear int eh tray?
>> Funny, this thread inspired me to actually look and -- I can't
find JAWS in my system tray either. Now that I think about it, I don't
remember the last time when I noticed it there. I guess it's been like
that for yearsa nd I never even noticed anything strange. Is this just
one of those computer niggles that you simply must figure out the
reasoning behind a nd solve? I've certainly been there.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner >> Sent: August 22, 2022 12:52 PM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> >> Subject: Re: Strange behavior with
JAWS tray icon >> >> Insert+J works as expected.
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>> Gene...
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>> On 8/22/2022 12:50 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>> Hm.
>>> Don't know about this problem, but kind of wondering, what
happens when you hit insert+j to access the JAWS menu? Since the
application is loaded and working, I assume all its commands also
work? I never go to the system tray toaccess JAWS features, I just
keep it there so it's not runnings a window all the time.
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Gene

Warner >>> Sent: August 22, 2022 12:24 PM >>> To: JAWS support

list <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> >>> Subject:
Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon >>> >>> Hi everyone!
>>>
>>> This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when
Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't
use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.
>>>
>>> When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen
even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then
exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the
system tray!
>>>
>>> I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray
so no icons should be hidden.
>>>
>>> Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have
already tried doing a repair install.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Gene...
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On Aug 23, 2022, at 8:00 PM, techsavi.shankar@... wrote:



Hi,

Note: this instructions works only if the contacts saved in your outlook office365.

1. Go to navigation bar by pressing f6 key.
2. Select the people by pressing downarrow.
3. Select the contacts list from the dd and launch the context menu.
4. From the context menu, select the new contact group.
5. Provide the name for the new contact group.
6. Press f6 and select the contact group tab.
7. Tab to Add members to this contact group from your Outlook contacts, address book, or enter an e-mail address.
8. Select the contacts and shift tab to save and close and press enter/space key.

 

Hope this helps.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: 24 August 2022 02:50
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: outlook accessibility

 

Until now I am ok just with the basics of outlook.  I now have to create a list of email addresses so when sending an email I can just put in the name of the list and all names on that list get the email.  This way I can add and remove names from the list as needed.  Is there a book or document that contains information about using outlook from the keyboard? 

Until now I am ok just with the basics of outlook.  I now have to create a list of email addresses so when sending an email I can just put in the name of the list and all names on that list get the email.  This way I can add and remove names from the list as needed.  Is there a book or document that contains information about using outlook from the keyboard? 

Until now I am ok just with the basics of outlook. I now have to create a list of email addresses so when sending an email I can just put in the name of the list and all names on that list get the email. This way I can add and remove names from the list as needed. Is there a book or document that contains information about using outlook from the keyboard?

Since the problem seems to be from starting JAWS from the registry, let me add an instruction for you that will achieve the same as what I did but is safe for those who should not be doing anything with the registry.
1. Press Windows+I to get into settings
2. Tab over to the list of options and arrow down to "Apps" and press Enter.
3. Tab over to the new list of options then press the End key to get to the Startup option, then press Enter.
4. Tab until you land on the "Application for JAWS" entry which will be turned on.
5. Press Space to turn it off.
6. You are done, you can press Alt+F4 to exit.
This will prevent JAWS from being started by the registry and leave it to the shortcut in the Startup folder in the Start menu.
Gene...
On 8/22/2022 1:28 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:

Hi Gene:

The procedure I use is meant for people who cannot or should not be fooling around with the Windows Registry.

JAWS does have two startup options: startup at login and startup for all users, both of which are turned off on my system. Then, for this user, I set it to "never".

I think what you did is absolutely fine, but I would never myself suggest for most folks to do what you did without some local support on their end<smile>.

Best wishes,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

I did what you did but in my own way. JAWS does not remove it's start up
entry from the registry so I go in and delete it myself. Then I add the
JAWS shortcut to the startup folder in the system wide startup menu
which is different from what you did, you only added the JAWS icon to
your user start menu.

But at the end of the day, it did fix the system tray icon not showing up.

Gene...


On 8/22/2022 1:09 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:

Hello:

One warning about the approach I use to start JAWS from shell:startup. When, in the fall, you choose to update to, say, JAWS 2023, you will want to be sure to update the shell:startup folder with the new shortcut. This will not happen automatically.

Best wishes,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Yeah, it's just not normal behavior and I want to figure it out if at
all possible because abnormal behavior means that something isn't quite
right.

Gene...


On 8/22/2022 1:01 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hey Gene.
So, I'm just curious -- if the method of accessign jaws works as expected, why restart jaws just to get it to appear int eh  tray?
Funny, this thread inspired me to actually look and -- I can't find JAWS in my system tray either. Now that I think about it, I don't remember the last time when I noticed it there. I guess it's been like that for yearsa nd I never even noticed anything strange. Is this just one of those computer niggles that you simply must figure out the reasoning behind a    nd solve? I've certainly been there.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 22, 2022 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Insert+J works as expected.

Gene...


On 8/22/2022 12:50 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hm.
Don't know about this problem, but kind of wondering, what happens when you hit insert+j to access the JAWS menu? Since the application is loaded and working, I assume all its commands also work? I never go to the system tray toaccess JAWS features, I just keep it there so it's not runnings a window all the time.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: August 22, 2022 12:24 PM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Strange behavior with JAWS tray icon

Hi everyone!

This is a really strange one. I have JAWS set up to load when Windows loads but not to load for the log on screen because I don't use it. I also have it set to run from the system tray and to run minimized.

When the system first starts, the JAWS icon is nowhere to be seen even though JAWS is loaded and running and working properly. If I then exit JAWS, then reload it, the JAWS icon is now displayed in the system tray!

I have Windows set up to always show all icons in the system tray so no icons should be hidden.

Anyone else seen this behavior and know how to fix it? I have already tried doing a repair install.

Thanks!
Gene...

Sometimes, and quite often, when I start Google Chrome, before the page comes up, JAWS says,

Untitled - Google Chrome

Is anyone else experiencing this, and is it happening in a certain situation? Is there a fix for this besides using another browser?

Bill White

billwhite92701@...