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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Andrew Summers
That is OK if you are a long time user of computers and not a new user!
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Andrew
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: 27 July 2022 21:16 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates Hello: The controversy arises when a person wants to have JAWS turned off during the update or installation. JAWS used to have a self-voicing installer which appears no longer to be present today. Worst case scenario, turn off JAWS, turn on Narrator, run the update. Easy peasy. Cordially, Curtis Chong -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 2:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates I'm confused. I just installed the new update. Throughout, I tracked the steps and progress as JAWS verbalized them. What exactly is the controversy? -- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/ -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates Hi, Gene. I believe Freedom Scientific intentionally removed the self voicing installer from JAWS, because now, Narrator can be used to monitor the install. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates I just did the update and sent Freedom Scientific tech support a message, ever since the beginning of the year, or somewhere around there, the installer's self voicing feature hasn't worked. I prefer to exit JAWS once the installer starts, I find that there are fewer possibilities for trouble that way. Gene... On 7/27/2022 3:17 PM, Michael Massey wrote: Hi, Curtis. If it weren't for your message and Molly's message, I would not have known about a new update. I am going to install the update on my desktop and then I am going to use the help utility and check for the update on my laptop. Molly needed to check the box to download the update and go from there. I will also listen to the podcast featuring Eric Damery.
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Re: Google office and xlsx documents
K0LNY
Hi Murray,
Just a shot in the dark, but maybe turning off
virtual cursor with insert + Z while in the spreadsheet would help.
Glenn
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From: Murray Peat
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 10:03 PM
Subject: Google office and xlsx documents Hi there, My work colleagues have asked me to do some work with them on a shared document. This takes the form of an xlsx document that appears to open in some kind of Google office online much like a web page. Normally I have no problem navigating a spreadsheet however the controls on this shared document are confusing me. The document opens with Jaws seemingly bouncing in out of forms several times, I can tell this by the Jaws noises to indicate such. I sometimes find myself in the main document but more often that not I am stuck in some tool bar and can find no logical way of getting out of it.
I was wondering if anyone successfully uses these sort of things and what tips you may have.
The document also appears to slow down Jaws navigation. For example, I would normally jump from one cell to the next with automatic response whereas with this document sometimes it can take a second or so to pop to the next cell Any help most welcome, it is sort of doing my head in J
Best Murray
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Google office and xlsx documents
Murray Peat <murraytp@...>
Hi there, My work colleagues have asked me to do some work with them on a shared document. This takes the form of an xlsx document that appears to open in some kind of Google office online much like a web page.
Normally I have no problem navigating a spreadsheet however the controls on this shared document are confusing me. The document opens with Jaws seemingly bouncing in out of forms several times, I can tell this by the Jaws noises to indicate such. I sometimes find myself in the main document but more often that not I am stuck in some tool bar and can find no logical way of getting out of it.
I was wondering if anyone successfully uses these sort of things and what tips you may have.
The document also appears to slow down Jaws navigation. For example, I would normally jump from one cell to the next with automatic response whereas with this document sometimes it can take a second or so to pop to the next cell
Any help most welcome, it is sort of doing my head in J
Best Murray
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Re: JAWS and column titles in excel?
Ann Byrne
JAWS supports more than one set of titles in a sheet.
If your last cell to be included were f8, 1. Place the cursor at the beginning of the row of column titles. 2. use the applications menu to locate "define name dot-dot-dot" and press enter. then type "columntitle..f8" To set titles for a second region, be sure to include the ending cell in the bookmark. Good luck! For a slightly more in depth explanation go to https://www.freedomscientific.com/training/jaws/additional-jaws-training-downloads/ and check out the link that says * <https://support.freedomscientific.com/content/downloads/daisy/ExcelColumnAndRowHeadersJAWS.exe>Excel Column and Row Headers (DAISY)
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
molly the blind tech lover
Thanks everyone. I downloaded the update via Freedom Scientific's website.
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On 7/27/22, Michael Massey <massey52@...> wrote:
Hi, Curtis. If it weren't for your message and Molly's message, I would not
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JAWS and column titles in excel?
Gene Warner
Along the same lines as a previous topic about this but with a twist.
I have a spreadsheet that has a couple of tables in it. Is it possible to get JAWS to read the column titles based on which table I am in? Or does JAWS only support one set of titles in each sheet. Thanks! Gene...
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Gene Warner
No controversy, in the past the JAWS installer was self voiced, it did not need a screen reader running to have a voice.
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On 7/27/2022 4:08 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
I'm confused. I just installed the new update. Throughout, I tracked the steps and progress as JAWS verbalized them.
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Gene Warner
Hmmm... I guess that's kind of in line with them dropping support for Windows 7, 8, and 8.1, which all had very anemic version of Narrator.
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On 7/27/2022 3:46 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Gene. I believe Freedom Scientific intentionally removed the self voicing installer from JAWS, because now, Narrator can be used to monitor the install.
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Curtis Chong
Hello:
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The controversy arises when a person wants to have JAWS turned off during the update or installation. JAWS used to have a self-voicing installer which appears no longer to be present today. Worst case scenario, turn off JAWS, turn on Narrator, run the update. Easy peasy. Cordially, Curtis Chong
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 2:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates I'm confused. I just installed the new update. Throughout, I tracked the steps and progress as JAWS verbalized them. What exactly is the controversy? -- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/ -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates Hi, Gene. I believe Freedom Scientific intentionally removed the self voicing installer from JAWS, because now, Narrator can be used to monitor the install. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates I just did the update and sent Freedom Scientific tech support a message, ever since the beginning of the year, or somewhere around there, the installer's self voicing feature hasn't worked. I prefer to exit JAWS once the installer starts, I find that there are fewer possibilities for trouble that way. Gene... On 7/27/2022 3:17 PM, Michael Massey wrote: Hi, Curtis. If it weren't for your message and Molly's message, I would not have known about a new update. I am going to install the update on my desktop and then I am going to use the help utility and check for the update on my laptop. Molly needed to check the box to download the update and go from there. I will also listen to the podcast featuring Eric Damery.
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Adrian Spratt
I'm confused. I just installed the new update. Throughout, I tracked the steps and progress as JAWS verbalized them.
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What exactly is the controversy? -- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates Hi, Gene. I believe Freedom Scientific intentionally removed the self voicing installer from JAWS, because now, Narrator can be used to monitor the install. Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates I just did the update and sent Freedom Scientific tech support a message, ever since the beginning of the year, or somewhere around there, the installer's self voicing feature hasn't worked. I prefer to exit JAWS once the installer starts, I find that there are fewer possibilities for trouble that way. Gene... On 7/27/2022 3:17 PM, Michael Massey wrote: Hi, Curtis. If it weren't for your message and Molly's message, I would not have known about a new update. I am going to install the update on my desktop and then I am going to use the help utility and check for the update on my laptop. Molly needed to check the box to download the update and go from there. I will also listen to the podcast featuring Eric Damery.
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Bill White
Hi, Gene. I believe Freedom Scientific intentionally removed the self voicing installer from JAWS, because now, Narrator can be used to monitor the install.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates I just did the update and sent Freedom Scientific tech support a message, ever since the beginning of the year, or somewhere around there, the installer's self voicing feature hasn't worked. I prefer to exit JAWS once the installer starts, I find that there are fewer possibilities for trouble that way. Gene... On 7/27/2022 3:17 PM, Michael Massey wrote: Hi, Curtis. If it weren't for your message and Molly's message, I would not have known about a new update. I am going to install the update on my desktop and then I am going to use the help utility and check for the update on my laptop. Molly needed to check the box to download the update and go from there. I will also listen to the podcast featuring Eric Damery.
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Gene Warner
I just did the update and sent Freedom Scientific tech support a message, ever since the beginning of the year, or somewhere around there, the installer's self voicing feature hasn't worked. I prefer to exit JAWS once the installer starts, I find that there are fewer possibilities for trouble that way.
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On 7/27/2022 3:17 PM, Michael Massey wrote:
Hi, Curtis. If it weren't for your message and Molly's message, I would not have known about a new update. I am going to install the update on my desktop and then I am going to use the help utility and check for the update on my laptop. Molly needed to check the box to download the update and go from there. I will also listen to the podcast featuring Eric Damery.
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Michael Massey
Hi, Curtis. If it weren't for your message and Molly's message, I would not have known about a new update. I am going to install the update on my desktop and then I am going to use the help utility and check for the update on my laptop. Molly needed to check the box to download the update and go from there. I will also listen to the podcast featuring Eric Damery.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 1:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates Hello: I am not experiencing this issue, but I do have Windows 10. There was an update released today. You can download it directly off of the Freedom Scientific website. Here is the direct download link. Cordially, Curtis Chong https://jaws2022.vfo.digital/2022.2207.25.400/2ACCEDFA-0210-472F-9953-AE54DF593427/J2022.2207.25.400-any.exe Best regards, Curtis Chong -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates Hi everyone. I am having a weird problem with Jaws. When Jaws turns on, it informs me that an update is available. However, I get the following message. "The following updates are available. List view, 0 items." Pressing tab, there is a cancel button, and that's it. There does not appear to be an actual update for Jaws. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I am running Windows 11, version 21h2, and Jaws version 2022.
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Gene Warner
I just did a manual check for updates and am told that this update is available:
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On 7/27/2022 2:59 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi everyone. I am having a weird problem with Jaws. When Jaws turns
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Re: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
Curtis Chong
Hello:
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I am not experiencing this issue, but I do have Windows 10. There was an update released today. You can download it directly off of the Freedom Scientific website. Here is the direct download link. Cordially, Curtis Chong https://jaws2022.vfo.digital/2022.2207.25.400/2ACCEDFA-0210-472F-9953-AE54DF593427/J2022.2207.25.400-any.exe Best regards, Curtis Chong
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: strange issue when checking for Jaws updates Hi everyone. I am having a weird problem with Jaws. When Jaws turns on, it informs me that an update is available. However, I get the following message. "The following updates are available. List view, 0 items." Pressing tab, there is a cancel button, and that's it. There does not appear to be an actual update for Jaws. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I am running Windows 11, version 21h2, and Jaws version 2022.
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strange issue when checking for Jaws updates
molly the blind tech lover
Hi everyone. I am having a weird problem with Jaws. When Jaws turns
on, it informs me that an update is available. However, I get the following message. "The following updates are available. List view, 0 items." Pressing tab, there is a cancel button, and that's it. There does not appear to be an actual update for Jaws. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I am running Windows 11, version 21h2, and Jaws version 2022.
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Re: Jeff Lukacsena: more Kindle for PC questions
Gene Warner
The only answer to both questions is amazon.com
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On 7/27/2022 2:46 PM, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:
Hello List,
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Jeff Lukacsena: more Kindle for PC questions
Jeff Lukacsena <jlukacsena@...>
Hello List, People mentioned to get the Kindle for PC. Where can I download that? Also, any good places to get Kindle books so I can try this application out? Thanks, Jeff Lukacsena
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Re: kindle question
Phillip Gross
You can absolutely copy in kindle. Select the text you want to copy. Press control c as you normally would to copy. It will put you in an area of check boxes you can arrow through to select different highlight colors. Ignore this unless you want to highlight. If you hit tab once you can add a note. If you tab again you land on a copy button. Press it. You can now paste the text where ever you wish, and kindle includes information that sights your book for you.
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Re: kindle question
Chris Hill
Speech history? I'd test it, but I think it conflicted with my
hotkey for starting k1000 and I gave it the heave-ho.
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CH CH On 7/27/2022 12:19, Justin Williams
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