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moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Joseph Machise
 

what is this Roku

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Yeah, I've heard they used E-Speak which is the default voice NVDA comes with. It isn't very good but it is understandable with some practice. I didn't like any of the other choices available, most, if not all of them would have required me to get a HDMI to analog audio converter because they didn't have audio out. The Stream Bar eliminates that problem.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:09 PM, james hooper wrote:
Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their speech.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

bingo!

----- Original Message -----
From: "james hooper" <rockiesfan296@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my
choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport,
and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

Hope the voice on yours is better than the one on my Roku.
I can't tell some letters like D & E & V for example, it makes it impossible
for me to enter my app credentials.
I contacted Roku and asked them to make eSpeak an option, even though eSpeak
is not pleasant to listen to, it is totally intelligible.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

james hooper
 

Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the Stream Bar is perfect for me.
The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

     I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall










moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.
Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Joseph Machise
 

wish you can by a stream box.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming, Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.
-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.
My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household.  We stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want to see.  I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.
Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*   ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

If they are accessible, I know that one of my streams will be Curiosity Stream, science, and documentaries are my favorite programming.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 7:37 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.
-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.
My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household.  We stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want to see.  I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.
Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*   ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Joseph Machise
 


Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
Subject: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.
-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household.  We stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want to see.  I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to have to deal with commercials.  I don't miss them one bit!
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Wow! I'll bet they did. Being cut out of the loop of the bill paying process doesn't sound like it would be very popular.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 7:29 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
Hot doggies, Citi bank conceded, I was able to
pay my monthly bills quickly. Hope they don’t change their system for next month.  Maybe they got too many complaints.  Tom
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 3:52 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 06:44 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
if they insist, you'll have to take your banking business somewhere
else.
-
Banks have been probably the very worst business sector where the attitude {cue German speaking English accent}, "You vill do vat ve vant, und you vill enjoy it!," reigns.  When my mother was alive, and I had become her Power of Attorney due to advancing dementia, I will never forget when a local credit union forced me to bring her in to sign when opening an account.  The PoA specifically gave me broad powers with regard to financial management, but because the two words, "open account," were not included in the examples of what I could do, I had to have a woman who had no idea what was going on physically present to sign for consent she was not even capable of giving.  It can be absolutely insane!
The only other thing that comes close is cable TV companies and in that case, since many are effectively monopolies in a given area, you're really stuck!  At least you can change banks.
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*~ Lauren Bacall


moderated CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 


We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.
-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household.  We stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want to see.  I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to have to deal with commercials.  I don't miss them one bit!
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Since I live alone so I don't need to consider sighted viewers, I would set the video quality on the streaming player to the lowest setting it allows and probably be just fine with the internet i already have. And for streams I figure two or three carefully chosen ones would provide me with all the TV entertainment I need and only cost me $30 or so each month.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 7:10 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.
-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.
My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household.  We stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want to see.  I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.
Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to have to deal with commercials.  I don't miss them one bit!
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

T. Civitello
 

Hot doggies, Citi bank conceded, I was able to
pay my monthly bills quickly. Hope they don’t change their system for next month.  Maybe they got too many complaints.  Tom
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: bank on line bill pay
 
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 06:44 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
if they insist, you'll have to take your banking business somewhere else.
-
Banks have been probably the very worst business sector where the attitude {cue German speaking English accent}, "You vill do vat ve vant, und you vill enjoy it!," reigns.  When my mother was alive, and I had become her Power of Attorney due to advancing dementia, I will never forget when a local credit union forced me to bring her in to sign when opening an account.  The PoA specifically gave me broad powers with regard to financial management, but because the two words, "open account," were not included in the examples of what I could do, I had to have a woman who had no idea what was going on physically present to sign for consent she was not even capable of giving.  It can be absolutely insane!

The only other thing that comes close is cable TV companies and in that case, since many are effectively monopolies in a given area, you're really stuck!  At least you can change banks.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

 

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.
-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household.  We stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want to see.  I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to have to deal with commercials.  I don't miss them one bit!
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

You might call me lucky in that I have my choice of three cable companies to choose from, but it hasn't helped me any. I have only a moderately fast internet, I live alone and don't stream anything so I don't need super speed, and a standard cable TV line up, and my bill is still $140 a month, and the quality of the content is basically crap!

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 6:52 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 06:44 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
if they insist, you'll have to take your banking business somewhere
else.
-
Banks have been probably the very worst business sector where the attitude {cue German speaking English accent}, "You vill do vat ve vant, und you vill enjoy it!," reigns.  When my mother was alive, and I had become her Power of Attorney due to advancing dementia, I will never forget when a local credit union forced me to bring her in to sign when opening an account.  The PoA specifically gave me broad powers with regard to financial management, but because the two words, "open account," were not included in the examples of what I could do, I had to have a woman who had no idea what was going on physically present to sign for consent she was not even capable of giving.  It can be absolutely insane!
The only other thing that comes close is cable TV companies and in that case, since many are effectively monopolies in a given area, you're really stuck!  At least you can change banks.
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

 

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 06:44 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
if they insist, you'll have to take your banking business somewhere else.
-
Banks have been probably the very worst business sector where the attitude {cue German speaking English accent}, "You vill do vat ve vant, und you vill enjoy it!," reigns.  When my mother was alive, and I had become her Power of Attorney due to advancing dementia, I will never forget when a local credit union forced me to bring her in to sign when opening an account.  The PoA specifically gave me broad powers with regard to financial management, but because the two words, "open account," were not included in the examples of what I could do, I had to have a woman who had no idea what was going on physically present to sign for consent she was not even capable of giving.  It can be absolutely insane!

The only other thing that comes close is cable TV companies and in that case, since many are effectively monopolies in a given area, you're really stuck!  At least you can change banks.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

If it were me, I'd send them a message through their online banking system, assuming they have that feature, and tell them how you feel about the change they are forcing on you and if they insist, you'll have to take your banking business somewhere else.

Then choose a new bank.

That's what I'm doing with Chase.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 6:09 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
Citi bank is now forcing me to the system where the bills go directly to the bank. My bills come to me by mail and that is the way
I want it to remain. Tom
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 2:59 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 05:31 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
Now the bills will go directly to your bank and they will send
payment to the payee and you are cut out of the loop till the end of
the month when you get a list on your monthly statement. Are all
banks now using this system?
-
No, and even those that do (one of mine does) give you the option to use automatic payment (where they just pay whatever comes in) or to follow the usual protocol where they notify you a bill has arrived, and you must log in to pay it.
This is being driven as much by many billers as the banks.  They've found that payments often "slip through the cracks" when customers have to log in to multiple sites to even see their bills then either pay them from there or log out and then log in to their bank to pay them.
It's really quite convenient to centralize all bill paying in one place and to have all of your electronic bills show up in your bank's bill payer.  You still choose whether payment is automatic or you must authorize.  It actually peeves me that one, and only one, of my utility bills refuses to set up such that the bill goes to my bill payer and I get notified that it's there for me to pay. I don't know of a single bank that does "enforced automatic" or they'd lose customers, as people could easily be bouncing the equivalent of checks left and right if making payments is contingent on actual cash flow (and it very often is).  Many don't have tons of cash lying about in their bank accounts that serves as a cushion and where no bill would be larger than that cushion.
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*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.
*~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

T. Civitello
 

 
Under the former system each bill paid said it was paid electronically. Oh well back to writing and mailing checks.  Tom
 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: bank on line bill pay
 
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 06:10 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
Citi bank is now forcing me to the system where the bills go directly to the bank. My bills come to me by mail and that is the way
I want it to remain.  Tom
-
You're mixing two different issues.

If your bank is insisting on going to all electronic delivery, and you don't want that, then you are going to have to change banks.

What's going on now in the billing world is very analogous to what went on decades ago with regard to direct deposit.  Billers and banks both want to minimize paper and the possibility of bills getting lost, misdirected, or "slipping through the cracks" as they can whether via the mail or once they've arrived at an individual's home.  What's interesting is that most government services, such as water/sewer/trash where I live, cannot be billed electronically, though you can pay them via a bank bill payer but the payment is actually cut by check.

Eventually, paper bills will be a thing of the past.  But you have plenty of other options for banking.  Your bank (whatever it may be) sets its policies and those policies may drive you away as a customer.  That's certainly been true for me in the past.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall

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