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moderated Re: bank on line bill pay

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

I Personally will never go back to paper as long as I am able. Such an inconvenient process, though your mileage may vary of course. Normally it also has accessibility barriers in some form or another for those of us who can’t read or fully write print.

Having the ability to simply read a bill directly via phone or computer without the issues of scanning a document, to pay that bill electronically without having to go through the process of writing a check (assistance usually required). I can budget via excel spreadsheets and have everything written down as far as when each bill is due, when it will be automatically withdrawn.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 5:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: bank on line bill pay

 

 

Under the former system each bill paid said it was paid electronically. Oh well back to writing and mailing checks.  Tom

 

Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: bank on line bill pay

 

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 06:10 PM, T. Civitello wrote:

Citi bank is now forcing me to the system where the bills go directly to the bank. My bills come to me by mail and that is the way

I want it to remain.  Tom

-
You're mixing two different issues.

If your bank is insisting on going to all electronic delivery, and you don't want that, then you are going to have to change banks.

What's going on now in the billing world is very analogous to what went on decades ago with regard to direct deposit.  Billers and banks both want to minimize paper and the possibility of bills getting lost, misdirected, or "slipping through the cracks" as they can whether via the mail or once they've arrived at an individual's home.  What's interesting is that most government services, such as water/sewer/trash where I live, cannot be billed electronically, though you can pay them via a bank bill payer but the payment is actually cut by check.

Eventually, paper bills will be a thing of the past.  But you have plenty of other options for banking.  Your bank (whatever it may be) sets its policies and those policies may drive you away as a customer.  That's certainly been true for me in the past.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
     ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Phillip Gross
 

You can now do this with Kindle as well.
Your Kindle can finally read ePub books | PCWorld


moderated Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Karen!

 

OK.  Well, it sounds to me like you will be trying the Asus.  If and when you do, would you please let us know how it worked and exactly which model you got?

 

Many thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Richard,

The tech here suggested the Asus. I don’t know if it is accessible. Perhaps someone else can say? We haven’t ordered ours yet.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Karen!

 

Wow, there are a lot of routers listed there!  Might you have a suggestion for one that is “best” and most accessible?  I do need one that is dual band.

 

Thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

You are welcome. I hope you can find one that works.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Thanks Karen!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Richard,

Here it is. You may need to choose the service you are getting to see what is compatible with their equipment.

 

https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/compliant-modems-spectrum-network

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Karen!

 

Soon, I am likely to get Spectrum cable Internet in California (Rancho Cucamonga).  I would probably have this same issue.  Could you please reply with the link to the Spectrum website where they list compatible routers?

 

Thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 6:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Dave,

We have that same issue with the router that came with Spectrum. The tech who came out suggested the Asus router that they list will work on their website with their equipment. You might want to find out which routers work with their equipment and then find out which one is accessible.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Glenn:

 

I forgot to mention, The EE router, does have a web interface but, as I said before, there are buttons which are not standard HTML buttons, which is why JAWS will not recognize them.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 9:13 PM

Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Dave,

I use a Linksys Smart router, but I don't use any Linksys software, I use the web interface, and I find that Internet Explorer works better than the three main browsers for router interface.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:08 PM

Subject: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hello everyone:

 

I need to set up port forwarding for a particular purpose. My ISP provider, is EE. The router's interface is mostly accessible. I was able to choose the device from the list, enter the start and end port forwarding addresses but, I could not find the button to press, which saves the new settings. I called EE and explained my problem. EE sent a technician to my home to try and help me set up the port forwarding function, which is when we discovered there were a couple of buttons on the port forwarding page which had been designed as graphics, which of course,no screen reader cannot speak.

 

Now, I am looking for a router, which has an interface, which is accessible using JAWS. Until 2014, when Annie and I moved to the UK, we always had Lynksys routers. Are the modern day Lynksys routers fully accessible using JAWS, if not, can any list members recommend a router, which is accessible, using JAWS.

 

Any suggestions, must contain both make and model numbers.

 

Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.

 

Dave Durberr

 

 


moderated Re: can a headset be plugged into the Roku

K0LNY
 

Hi Gaylen,
I sure don't know why none of these devices come with a headphone jack, for
plugging into speakers, but if you plug in an HDMI to VGA adapter, the
adapter should have a little speaker jack.
I'm sure there isn't much power out of it, I plug mine into a little powered
speaker, a little bluetooth cube that you charge up and can connect either
via eighth inch plug or bluetooth, and obviously by wire for this setup.
I'll bet ear buds would work on it but big headphones might be questionable.
The HDMI to VGA adapter can be found on Amazon for less than 15 dollars, and
although I think they all have an audio out port, make sure to read about it
in the description first.
The adapter is about exactly the size of the Roku, and I just fold them
together and put a twisty around the looped HDMI cable, which makes a cable
loop at the top for carrying or hanging.
The cable on it is about 3 or 4 inches long before folded over.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gaylen Kapperman" <gkapperman@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 10:03 PM
Subject: can a headset be plugged into the Roku


Glen, can you plug a headset into the Roku instead of a speaker?
Gaylen Kapperman



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny via
groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you
plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to
your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated can a headset be plugged into the Roku

Gaylen Kapperman
 

Glen, can you plug a headset into the Roku instead of a speaker?
Gaylen Kapperman

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Joseph Machise
 

thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


I forget now, you hold down a button on the remote and you can toggle the
voice on and off.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


I don't how do you make it talk.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you
plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to
your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

That sounds like a neat set up! Since I live is a small one bedroom apartment, I don't really need to carry my entertainment around the place to hear it.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:36 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
My Roku I have plugged into an HDMI to VGA converter, and it has a port for
an eighth inch speaker wire, and I plug it into a small rechargeable
speaker, and I can put my TV in my pocket and carry it around the house.
My firestick won't do that with this adapter, because its HDMI is a male
plug, and the Roku has a female port that fits my HDMI to VGA adapter.
Those adapters are on Amazon for around 15 dollars.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
I don't have a TV tto plug a stick into.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 8:25 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I don't know why they would not make eSpeak available, it is a free open
source TTS, and if folks want it, they should make it a TTS option.
VoiceView on the firestick is good.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Since I'm such a nice guy, turn your head when you puke, I'll let you
know when my Stream Bar arrives next Tuesday.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:18 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I wish they would use eSpeak, maybe my request sunk in if they are using
it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Yeah, I've heard they used E-Speak which is the default voice NVDA comes
with. It isn't very good but it is understandable with some practice. I
didn't like any of the other choices available, most, if not all of them
would have required me to get a HDMI to analog audio converter because
they didn't have audio out. The Stream Bar eliminates that problem.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:09 PM, james hooper wrote:
Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their
speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around
with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to
go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make
my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at
all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS
Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall




































moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

My Roku I have plugged into an HDMI to VGA converter, and it has a port for
an eighth inch speaker wire, and I plug it into a small rechargeable
speaker, and I can put my TV in my pocket and carry it around the house.
My firestick won't do that with this adapter, because its HDMI is a male
plug, and the Roku has a female port that fits my HDMI to VGA adapter.
Those adapters are on Amazon for around 15 dollars.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


I don't have a TV tto plug a stick into.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:25 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I don't know why they would not make eSpeak available, it is a free open
source TTS, and if folks want it, they should make it a TTS option.
VoiceView on the firestick is good.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Since I'm such a nice guy, turn your head when you puke, I'll let you
know when my Stream Bar arrives next Tuesday.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:18 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I wish they would use eSpeak, maybe my request sunk in if they are using
it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Yeah, I've heard they used E-Speak which is the default voice NVDA comes
with. It isn't very good but it is understandable with some practice. I
didn't like any of the other choices available, most, if not all of them
would have required me to get a HDMI to analog audio converter because
they didn't have audio out. The Stream Bar eliminates that problem.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:09 PM, james hooper wrote:
Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their
speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around
with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to
go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make
my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at
all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS
Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall




































moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

I don't have a TV tto plug a stick into.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:25 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I don't know why they would not make eSpeak available, it is a free open
source TTS, and if folks want it, they should make it a TTS option.
VoiceView on the firestick is good.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
Since I'm such a nice guy, turn your head when you puke, I'll let you
know when my Stream Bar arrives next Tuesday.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 8:18 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I wish they would use eSpeak, maybe my request sunk in if they are using
it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Yeah, I've heard they used E-Speak which is the default voice NVDA comes
with. It isn't very good but it is understandable with some practice. I
didn't like any of the other choices available, most, if not all of them
would have required me to get a HDMI to analog audio converter because
they didn't have audio out. The Stream Bar eliminates that problem.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:09 PM, james hooper wrote:
Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around
with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to
go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make
my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS
Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall




























moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Press the star key on the remote four time quickly.

That was from the Roku site.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:25 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
I don't how do you make it talk.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you
plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to
your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

james hooper
 

If it is like a fire stick you hold down the back button and menu for about 5 seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

I forget now, you hold down a button on the remote and you can toggle the voice on and off.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


I don't how do you make it talk.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you
plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to
your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

I forget now, you hold down a button on the remote and you can toggle the
voice on and off.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


I don't how do you make it talk.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you
plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to
your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

I don't know why they would not make eSpeak available, it is a free open
source TTS, and if folks want it, they should make it a TTS option.
VoiceView on the firestick is good.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Since I'm such a nice guy, turn your head when you puke, I'll let you
know when my Stream Bar arrives next Tuesday.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:18 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I wish they would use eSpeak, maybe my request sunk in if they are using
it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Yeah, I've heard they used E-Speak which is the default voice NVDA comes
with. It isn't very good but it is understandable with some practice. I
didn't like any of the other choices available, most, if not all of them
would have required me to get a HDMI to analog audio converter because
they didn't have audio out. The Stream Bar eliminates that problem.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:09 PM, james hooper wrote:
Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around
with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to
go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make
my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS
Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall




























moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Joseph Machise
 

I don't how do you make it talk.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you
plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to
your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Since I'm such a nice guy, turn your head when you puke, I'll let you know when my Stream Bar arrives next Tuesday.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:18 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I wish they would use eSpeak, maybe my request sunk in if they are using it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
Yeah, I've heard they used E-Speak which is the default voice NVDA comes
with. It isn't very good but it is understandable with some practice. I
didn't like any of the other choices available, most, if not all of them
would have required me to get a HDMI to analog audio converter because
they didn't have audio out. The Stream Bar eliminates that problem.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 8:09 PM, james hooper wrote:
Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around
with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make
my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS
Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall




















moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

No, it is far far worse.
Strangely, it isn't as robotic as eSpeak, but much harder to understand.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh, they aren't using E-Speak? I wonder what they are using then because
I was always under the impression that that was what they were using.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:11 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hope the voice on yours is better than the one on my Roku.
I can't tell some letters like D & E & V for example, it makes it
impossible
for me to enter my app credentials.
I contacted Roku and asked them to make eSpeak an option, even though
eSpeak
is not pleasant to listen to, it is totally intelligible.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall



















moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

They make a variety of streaming players. They were actually the first to come out with them, their first one was the Netflix player.

https://www.roku.com

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:17 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

It's like a firestick, a small device you plug into your HDMI port and you
plug it in to USB power and it comes with a remote and you connect it to
your WIFI and stream from services like HULU and Netflix and Amazon Prime.
If you have Amazon Prime for shipping, you can stream TV too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Machise" <jdmachise@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


what is this Roku
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall











moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

K0LNY
 

I wish they would use eSpeak, maybe my request sunk in if they are using it.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Yeah, I've heard they used E-Speak which is the default voice NVDA comes
with. It isn't very good but it is understandable with some practice. I
didn't like any of the other choices available, most, if not all of them
would have required me to get a HDMI to analog audio converter because
they didn't have audio out. The Stream Bar eliminates that problem.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:09 PM, james hooper wrote:
Only thing I don't like about roqu is the sound quality of their speech.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Oh and I almost forgot, Roku has a ton of free streams to play around
with.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 8:07 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.

The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick
one or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the
cord, I'm giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make
my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to
stream only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on,
or I can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will
be on, and if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read
eMails or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do
around the house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of
choices is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can
stream, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they
don't even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me
$40 per month but there's no way I want the next step up, which
contains tons of crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We
stream a ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally
from the various commercial networks if there's something we missed
that we want to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and
with that savings, if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could
subscribe to between 6 and 8 streaming services, including PBS
Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall




















moderated Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

Gene Warner
 

Oh, they aren't using E-Speak? I wonder what they are using then because I was always under the impression that that was what they were using.

Gene...

On 7/28/2022 8:11 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hope the voice on yours is better than the one on my Roku.
I can't tell some letters like D & E & V for example, it makes it impossible
for me to enter my app credentials.
I contacted Roku and asked them to make eSpeak an option, even though eSpeak
is not pleasant to listen to, it is totally intelligible.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay
I just ordered one from Amazon, I chose the Roku Stream Bar. Since I
can't see it I don't have a TV so all I need are the speakers so the
Stream Bar is perfect for me.
The Stream Bar is a sound bar with a streaming player in it. Sighted
users would then hook it up to their TV via HDMI and they are good to go.
Gene...
On 7/28/2022 7:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
wish you can by a stream box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: CableTV, was bank on line bill pay


Picking your streams is easy, the first thing to do is to decide what
kind of programming you want. That will narrow your choices
significantly. Of course that depends on what kind of TV watcher you
are, I'm very picky about what I'm willing to spend time watching. My
brother on the other hand will watch almost anything that's on.

Since science, nature, and documentaries are my favorite programming,
Curiosity Stream is a natural choice for me. Now I only need to pick one
or two more streams. And since I'm not in any hurry to cut the cord, I'm
giving myself until the end of the year, I have time to make my choices.

Gene...


On 7/28/2022 7:40 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:

Glenn I agree with you, this streaming is to much for me also.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glenn@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:37 PM
*Subject:* CableTV, was bank on line bill pay

We are switching providers here because Sparklight is going to stream
only, and I don't want that.
We do have a couple firesticks, and a Roku, and several streaming
subscriptions, but honestly, deciding what I want to stream is not a
decision I care to put effort into.
I prefer to turn on the TV when I know a show in particular is on, or I
can check my TV guide that comes in my eMail to see what will be on, and
if nothing good is on, I don't mind not watching TV at all.
But when I do watch commercial TV, I use commercial time to read eMails
or go to the wash room, or something else that I need to do around the
house.
But this whole streaming thing of deciding over the thousands of choices
is too much and more than I care to put effort into.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: bank on line bill pay

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 07:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I am very seriously considering cutting the cord on cable TV.

-
And if you can get decent high-speed internet service so you can stream,
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I still have Comcast basic cable (and I do mean basic, and they don't
even make new customers aware the option exists) that costs me $40 per
month but there's no way I want the next step up, which contains tons of
crap I'd never watch, for over $100 per month.

My internet service (all of it) is now handled through the mobile
hotspot feature of the two 5G smartphones in the household. We stream a
ton from Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and occasionally from the
various commercial networks if there's something we missed that we want
to see. I have considered cutting the cable cord and with that savings,
if I wanted to burn all of it monthly, I could subscribe to between 6
and 8 streaming services, including PBS Passport, and never look back.

Once you start streaming it's amazing how fast it becomes painful to
have to deal with commercials. I don't miss them one bit!

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t.
* ~ Lauren Bacall










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