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moderated Interesting use for picture smart

Gene Warner
 

Hi everyone!

It worked for this one but I won't guarantee that it will work for all of them.

While filling out a contact form I encountered a CAPTCHA and decided to see if picture smart could decipher what I needed to enter and for a wonder it did! While on the CAPTCHA graphic I just copied it to the clipboard and then sent it in to picture smart.

Remember that your mileage may vary.

Gene...


moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Phillip Gross
 

Crystobal, I just wanted to let you know that you can highlight, insert notes, and even copy text in the Kindle for PC app.

Select the text you want to manipulate like you normally would. Hit Control c as if you were copying. It takes you into a dialog where you can highlight, insert a note or press a button for copying text. If you copy text, it gives you the author, title, and page number for bibliographical information as well.


moderated Re: partition managers?

Gene Warner
 

If by Partition Assistant you mean Aomei Partition Assistant, I tried that program and found the current version totally unusable. On top of that, the free version will not transfer partitions that contain an operating system. I ended up using Macrorit Partition Expert and got help from Aira to use it.

Gene...

On 6/27/2022 3:31 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi Mike!
The last time I tried to use that program I found it rather confusing, but that was several years ago, hopefully things have improved since then so I'll try it again. I still lament the loss of Partition Magic, it is in my humble opinion the best partition management software ever written. It and several other programs I can think of that were acquired and then buried by Norton/Symantech and is the primary reason, among others, why I will not buy anything from them.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Gene...
On 6/27/2022 3:13 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,
Partition Assistant is a good one to go with.  Below are a couple of emails talking about it.
From: "David Ferrin" <
owner@... <mailto:owner@...>>
I had to go to the jaws cursor some but only to select the drive I wanted to
modify. After that everything was in tab order and behaved nicely. It might
be a good idea for me to write up some instructions. The fact is the program
works where partition magic failed me in a couple of places.
David Ferrin
From: "chris hallsworth" <
christopherh40@... <mailto:christopherh40@...>>
Hi David and all.
Same here. You need to use the JAWS cursor. They say you need to select
the disk or drive. Actually right clicking is enough to bring up a
context menu containing items to do with the disk or partition. I'm
thinking we could all give feedback to the developers and request they
incorporate standard list view controls or whatever, just so that we
don't have to use the JAWS cursor. But I'm thinking if we have to use
the JAWS cursor in other applications, what's the point. What do you
think listers? Should we request improved accessibility to the
developers or leave it as it is.
 From Chris
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Gene Warner <mailto:genewarner3@...>
*To:* JAWS support list <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2022 11:43 AM
*Subject:* partition managers?

Hi!

I need to do some work with hard drive partitions. Does anyone know of
one that is accessible through JAWS?

Thanks!
Gene...





moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

JM Casey
 

Ah. I think I had installed that at some point, or some programme very much like it, on one of my machines.
Interesting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 11:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

It scans your computer for installed software, then goes online to a database I'm guessing and notifies you if any of your software has updates available.

The program is mostly intuitive, but there are areas that could benefit from actual documentation.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 8:35 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Wow, that does sound very lazy. Not even something pointing you to a regularly updated web page online?
What was Sumo supposed to do?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

And then there are developers who are so lazy that produce no
documentation at all. KC Software is one of these, I bought their SUMo
program and was very disappointed to learn that there wasn't a single
word of documentation nor any help file either. :-(

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 8:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.

BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with
-
c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my
app of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


























moderated Re: using office online in chrome with jaws

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Rahul:

 

From the perspective of a blind user running JAWS, it is not the most efficient use of your time to use the web interface to Office. It is a reasonable accommodation for your employer to install Microsoft 365 on to your work system. If you need additional information to justify a request of this nature, I am sure people on this list would be more than happy to supply you with the information you need.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:34 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: using office online in chrome with jaws

 

Hi All,

 

My current firm uses Office Online a great deal for their work. I find that my existing tech skills are not enough to help me navigate this platform effectively. I am also unable to open in the One Drive desktop app documents that are opened in Office Online.

 

Any guidance on the above or leads for using Office Online would be greatly appreciated.

 

Warmly,

Rahul

 

--

--
Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law

Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford

Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility

Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub

Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





moderated Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Karen!

 

Great!

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Richard,

I’ll do that. It might be a couple of months.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Karen!

 

OK.  Well, it sounds to me like you will be trying the Asus.  If and when you do, would you please let us know how it worked and exactly which model you got?

 

Many thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Richard,

The tech here suggested the Asus. I don’t know if it is accessible. Perhaps someone else can say? We haven’t ordered ours yet.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Karen!

 

Wow, there are a lot of routers listed there!  Might you have a suggestion for one that is “best” and most accessible?  I do need one that is dual band.

 

Thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

You are welcome. I hope you can find one that works.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 12:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Thanks Karen!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Richard,

Here it is. You may need to choose the service you are getting to see what is compatible with their equipment.

 

https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/compliant-modems-spectrum-network

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Karen!

 

Soon, I am likely to get Spectrum cable Internet in California (Rancho Cucamonga).  I would probably have this same issue.  Could you please reply with the link to the Spectrum website where they list compatible routers?

 

Thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 6:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Dave,

We have that same issue with the router that came with Spectrum. The tech who came out suggested the Asus router that they list will work on their website with their equipment. You might want to find out which routers work with their equipment and then find out which one is accessible.

 

Karen

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Glenn:

 

I forgot to mention, The EE router, does have a web interface but, as I said before, there are buttons which are not standard HTML buttons, which is why JAWS will not recognize them.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 9:13 PM

Subject: Re: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hi Dave,

I use a Linksys Smart router, but I don't use any Linksys software, I use the web interface, and I find that Internet Explorer works better than the three main browsers for router interface.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:08 PM

Subject: Routers which have an interface which is accessible using JAWS

 

Hello everyone:

 

I need to set up port forwarding for a particular purpose. My ISP provider, is EE. The router's interface is mostly accessible. I was able to choose the device from the list, enter the start and end port forwarding addresses but, I could not find the button to press, which saves the new settings. I called EE and explained my problem. EE sent a technician to my home to try and help me set up the port forwarding function, which is when we discovered there were a couple of buttons on the port forwarding page which had been designed as graphics, which of course,no screen reader cannot speak.

 

Now, I am looking for a router, which has an interface, which is accessible using JAWS. Until 2014, when Annie and I moved to the UK, we always had Lynksys routers. Are the modern day Lynksys routers fully accessible using JAWS, if not, can any list members recommend a router, which is accessible, using JAWS.

 

Any suggestions, must contain both make and model numbers.

 

Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.

 

Dave Durberr

 

 


moderated Re: using office online in chrome with jaws

Chris Hill
 

You probably need to have a serious talk with your tech people.  Office online is not what a sane person would call accessible.

CH


On 7/31/2022 00:34, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

Hi All,

My current firm uses Office Online a great deal for their work. I find that my existing tech skills are not enough to help me navigate this platform effectively. I am also unable to open in the One Drive desktop app documents that are opened in Office Online.

Any guidance on the above or leads for using Office Online would be greatly appreciated.

Warmly,
Rahul

--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law
Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub
Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India






moderated using office online in chrome with jaws

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi All,

My current firm uses Office Online a great deal for their work. I find that my existing tech skills are not enough to help me navigate this platform effectively. I am also unable to open in the One Drive desktop app documents that are opened in Office Online.

Any guidance on the above or leads for using Office Online would be greatly appreciated.

Warmly,
Rahul

--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Attorney, Ira Law
Senior Associate Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
Special Correspondent on the rights of persons with disabilities, Oxford Human Rights Hub
Coordinator of the working group on accessibility, e-Committee, Supreme Court of India





moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Gene Warner
 

Thanks for the link, I use Bookworm myself but am always willing to look at other options.

Gene...

On 7/30/2022 10:12 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
I'm still using QRead with no issues on my machines. I' got the portable version running on my Google drive folders so I can have synchronicity for bookmarks and reading positions and whatnot. I know the dev's not actively working on it any more, but I mean... absent a few improvements here or there, like being able to highlight and inserting notes, the app's otherwise fine. Then again, at that point, it might as well be the Kindle for PC app.
In any event, another app that people like to use and I've played around with is THORIUM READER: https://www.edrlab.org/software/thorium-reader/
It's accessible and makes an effort to be and stay screen reader accessible for all sorts of eBook file types.
Cristóbal
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them
Wow, that does sound very lazy. Not even something pointing you to a regularly updated web page online?
What was Sumo supposed to do?
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them
And then there are developers who are so lazy that produce no documentation at all. KC Software is one of these, I bought their SUMo program and was very disappointed to learn that there wasn't a single word of documentation nor any help file either. :-(
Gene...
On 7/30/2022 8:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.

BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-
c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my
app of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


















moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Gene Warner
 

It scans your computer for installed software, then goes online to a database I'm guessing and notifies you if any of your software has updates available.

The program is mostly intuitive, but there are areas that could benefit from actual documentation.

Gene...

On 7/30/2022 8:35 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Wow, that does sound very lazy. Not even something pointing you to a regularly updated web page online?
What was Sumo supposed to do?
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them
And then there are developers who are so lazy that produce no documentation at all. KC Software is one of these, I bought their SUMo program and was very disappointed to learn that there wasn't a single word of documentation nor any help file either. :-(
Gene...
On 7/30/2022 8:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.

BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-
c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my
app of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


















moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

JM Casey
 

Hi.
Yeah, I did respond to another post about Qread, but this was my response to Gene Warner's message where we were talking about documentation, and something called Sumo.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: July 30, 2022 10:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

I'm still using QRead with no issues on my machines. I' got the portable version running on my Google drive folders so I can have synchronicity for bookmarks and reading positions and whatnot. I know the dev's not actively working on it any more, but I mean... absent a few improvements here or there, like being able to highlight and inserting notes, the app's otherwise fine. Then again, at that point, it might as well be the Kindle for PC app.
In any event, another app that people like to use and I've played around with is THORIUM READER: https://www.edrlab.org/software/thorium-reader/
It's accessible and makes an effort to be and stay screen reader accessible for all sorts of eBook file types.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Wow, that does sound very lazy. Not even something pointing you to a regularly updated web page online?
What was Sumo supposed to do?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

And then there are developers who are so lazy that produce no documentation at all. KC Software is one of these, I bought their SUMo program and was very disappointed to learn that there wasn't a single word of documentation nor any help file either. :-(

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 8:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.

BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-
c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my
app of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


















moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Cristóbal
 

I'm still using QRead with no issues on my machines. I' got the portable version running on my Google drive folders so I can have synchronicity for bookmarks and reading positions and whatnot. I know the dev's not actively working on it any more, but I mean... absent a few improvements here or there, like being able to highlight and inserting notes, the app's otherwise fine. Then again, at that point, it might as well be the Kindle for PC app.
In any event, another app that people like to use and I've played around with is THORIUM READER: https://www.edrlab.org/software/thorium-reader/
It's accessible and makes an effort to be and stay screen reader accessible for all sorts of eBook file types.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Wow, that does sound very lazy. Not even something pointing you to a regularly updated web page online?
What was Sumo supposed to do?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

And then there are developers who are so lazy that produce no documentation at all. KC Software is one of these, I bought their SUMo program and was very disappointed to learn that there wasn't a single word of documentation nor any help file either. :-(

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 8:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.

BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-
c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my
app of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


















moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

JM Casey
 

Wow, that does sound very lazy. Not even something pointing you to a regularly updated web page online?
What was Sumo supposed to do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

And then there are developers who are so lazy that produce no documentation at all. KC Software is one of these, I bought their SUMo program and was very disappointed to learn that there wasn't a single word of documentation nor any help file either. :-(

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 8:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.

BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-
c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my
app of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


















moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Gene Warner
 

And then there are developers who are so lazy that produce no documentation at all. KC Software is one of these, I bought their SUMo program and was very disappointed to learn that there wasn't a single word of documentation nor any help file either. :-(

Gene...

On 7/30/2022 8:21 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.
BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them
Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.
Gene...
On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my app
of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David










moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

JM Casey
 

Ah good man.
Not enough people do.
Not ragging on anyone but I swear the traffic on these sortso f lists would be cut in at least half if people actually read docs.
Though of course, the quality fo documentation does vary.

BTW I spelled "calibre" wrong in my initial post -- it's "r e " at the end and not "e r".

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 08:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-c
alibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with
anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital
protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream
Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my app
of choice for reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David










moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Gene Warner
 

Thanks but you don't need to do that unless you are curious for your own reasons. I'll look at the documentation myself. I don't mind as I am one of those people who actually likes to read the instructions.

Gene...

On 7/30/2022 6:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-calibre-1291960
I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them
Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?
Gene...
On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with anything
and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital protection
also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream Reader will not
be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my app of choice for
reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

JM Casey
 

Hi.

I use QRead too sometimes, but I don't think it's all that good. Mostly thought aht's because I want to read books on my braille display, and there just aren't any encoding options for file conversion.
I don’t' think the developer is updating it anymore. But there's no particular reason to create a version specifically for Windows 11, is there? Windows software is usually compatible across operating systems, with very few exceptions, and these are mostly because of technology like DirectX. I'm still using software here that I used on Windows XP with no problems,a nd that's how Windows is designed to work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: July 28, 2022 06:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

I've placed QRead on numerous computers over the years. When I try to pay for it a second time, I get a message stating that I've already paid for it.
It will handle books with 2000 pages or more very very nicely.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

I use QRead and love it. I am certain the developer will offer a Windows 11 version shortly if he has not already. I have not heard the software was incompatible with windows 11. QRead is so good, I do not need hand holding and a diaper change from tech support. It just works great. Yes, he charges for it, and I am willing to pay money for quality software to be independent. I also pay for my own iPhone, mobile wireless service, and internet without expecting a free government hand out or to be a recipient of charitable services.
Christopher Toth is a talented blind programmer who I support, just like I support the developer of Lire and Weather Gods apps. Feel free to enjoy your mysterious free ePub software, which you did not name.

Kelly


Kelly



On 7/26/22, Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
It does, when I had an iPhone I'd get the iOS access for all book in
epub format and put it on my Victor Reader.

I have a BlindShell Classic 2 phone now and love it way more than I
ever liked any of the iPhones I've ever had.

Geene...


On 7/26/2022 8:02 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
I believe the Victor Stream reads them.
At 05:02 PM 7/26/2022, you wrote:
Well, if you are a user of emacs, it has a very nice epub reader
called nov.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 16:59:07 -0400,
Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hello Everyone,

I will be attending graduate school this fall. The access
technology
center
mentioned that some of my books might be available in Epub. I have
never
used ePub books before. Can someone point me to the best places to
find, and
learn how to read these kinds of books.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena








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How do
you spend it?

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covici@...











moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

JM Casey
 

Hey Gene.
In a word, not on its own, but you can install a plugin to do this. Probably not a good topic for the list, but:
https://www.techradar.com/news/software/how-to-remove-ebook-drm-with-calibre-1291960

I have not had great experiences with Calibre main programme and jAWS, but there is an add-on for nVDA. The conversion can be done from the command line, but I'm not sure about importing the plugin. There might be a way. I'll see if I can find anything int eh documentation.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: July 30, 2022 05:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...


On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text
files to dump onto my old braille display. It will work with anything
and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much
nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick.
Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and
getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan
Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital protection
also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream Reader will not
be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my app of choice for
reading ePub content.

Alan Lemly



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

Gene Warner
 

Can this Caliber tool remove DRM from some ebooks like Kindle?

Gene...

On 7/30/2022 5:47 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text files to  dump onto my old braille display. It will work with anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.
Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick. Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: epub books and what to use to read them
Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my app of choice for reading ePub content.
Alan Lemly
On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@... <mailto:davidkingsbury77@...>> wrote:
Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub
files marked up with headings.
David


moderated Re: epub books and what to use to read them

JM Casey
 

I just use the Caliber command line tool to convert .epubs to text files to  dump onto my old braille display. It will work with anything and also convert to just about any format you can think of.

Otherwise, Qread will read them on pC, but I don’t use it for much nowadays. There’s also an MS word etension that will do the trick. Web-based extensions too but I haven’t had much luck with those and getting the text to actually read with a screen-reader.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: July 30, 2022 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: epub books and what to use to read them

 

Just be aware that if the ePub book in question has digital protection also known as digital rights management, Voice Dream Reader will not be able to access it. Otherwise Voice Dream is my app of choice for reading ePub content. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 



On Jul 30, 2022, at 9:26 AM, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Voicedream Reader on the iPhone does a good job of navigating ePub files marked up with headings.
David

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