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moderated Re: spelling mistakes

Gene Warner
 

That is exactly why I never call somebody out for their misspellings. Besides, I'm a terrible speller, the person doing the misspelling could easily be me!

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 2:13 PM, Mike Pietruk wrote:
Let me a comment:
folks come to this list for answers to their JFW questions.
And, when folks start complaining about spelling errors, a lot of people
will get self-conscious and perhaps not ask their questions.
As long as one knows what someone is talking about and a misspelled word
doesn't mess up the understanding or convey misinfo,
it's better to accept that for what it is; an honest unintentional error
and nothing more.
After all, we're all human and, hence, prone to missteps.
And he who isn't, let him/her throw the first stone.


moderated Re: spelling mistakes

Madison Martin
 

Sorry guys; I have Outlook set to spell check before sending messages; guess it must’ve missed that one

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: August 6, 2022 11:18 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: spelling mistakes

 

are use Microsoft Spell Checker to make sure there's no spelling mistakes before I post a message


moderated Re: spelling mistakes

Mike Pietruk
 

Let me a comment:

folks come to this list for answers to their JFW questions.
And, when folks start complaining about spelling errors, a lot of people
will get self-conscious and perhaps not ask their questions.
As long as one knows what someone is talking about and a misspelled word
doesn't mess up the understanding or convey misinfo,
it's better to accept that for what it is; an honest unintentional error
and nothing more.
After all, we're all human and, hence, prone to missteps.
And he who isn't, let him/her throw the first stone.


moderated Re: Locking the mouse buttons:

Gene Warner
 

Totally agree! After I lost my vision, I signed up for a JAWS class at the local Lighthouse for the blind, the instructor was sighted and his method of instruction was to ask, "What do you want to learn?" I never went back to that class and learned JAWS on my own, it was hard without help and took me about a year before I felt even the slightest bit comfortable with it.

Gene...


Gene...

On 8/7/2022 1:56 PM, Angel wrote:
I am using Jaws 18, conjoined with windows 10.  In view of this:  Where is the screen shade-Curtin, and how does one employ it.  Eric Damery, employed by Freedom Scientific,  uses Jaws and the keyboard exclusively, and is fully sighted.  I read, once, he did so, because his dear father was totally blind, and had familiarized him with blindness alternative technics.  When I was learning the Braille code over 65 years ago:  Our fully sighted teachers read Braille exclusively using their fingers. They learned the code in order to instruct blinded world war II veterans.  The thery, then, was, to best instruct us blind, and physically challenged  users of a particular skill one ought to be proficient in the use of that skill using the same technics used by those using the skills every day.  In 98, when I got my first computer, my instructor was totally blind.  I don’t know whether I would trust a sight dependent person to teach me anything, truly.  Because I would doubt he had the confidence in his own ability to properly instruct and to empathize with me, were he forced to depend on his sight to teach a skill I would be using independent of the  sense of sight.
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moderated Re: Locking the mouse buttons:

K0LNY
 


If one is not using a laptop, the monitor can always be turned off too.
When I took typing in high school, the teacher made everyone tape a sheet of typing paper over the keyboard and we had to type with our hands under the paper.
My plumber is a volunteer fireman and he told me that he had to train getting out of buildings with a blindfold on.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Angel
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 12:56 PM
Subject: Locking the mouse buttons:

I am using Jaws 18, conjoined with windows 10.  In view of this:  Where is the screen shade-Curtin, and how does one employ it.  Eric Damery, employed by Freedom Scientific,  uses Jaws and the keyboard exclusively, and is fully sighted.  I read, once, he did so, because his dear father was totally blind, and had familiarized him with blindness alternative technics.  When I was learning the Braille code over 65 years ago:  Our fully sighted teachers read Braille exclusively using their fingers.  They learned the code in order to instruct blinded world war II veterans.  The thery, then, was, to best instruct us blind, and physically challenged  users of a particular skill one ought to be proficient in the use of that skill using the same technics used by those using the skills every day.  In 98, when I got my first computer, my instructor was totally blind.  I don’t know whether I would trust a sight dependent person to teach me anything, truly.  Because I would doubt he had the confidence in his own ability to properly instruct and to empathize with me, were he forced to depend on his sight to teach a skill I would be using independent of the  sense of sight.

 

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moderated Locking the mouse buttons:

Angel
 

I am using Jaws 18, conjoined with windows 10.  In view of this:  Where is the screen shade-Curtin, and how does one employ it.  Eric Damery, employed by Freedom Scientific,  uses Jaws and the keyboard exclusively, and is fully sighted.  I read, once, he did so, because his dear father was totally blind, and had familiarized him with blindness alternative technics.  When I was learning the Braille code over 65 years ago:  Our fully sighted teachers read Braille exclusively using their fingers.  They learned the code in order to instruct blinded world war II veterans.  The thery, then, was, to best instruct us blind, and physically challenged  users of a particular skill one ought to be proficient in the use of that skill using the same technics used by those using the skills every day.  In 98, when I got my first computer, my instructor was totally blind.  I don’t know whether I would trust a sight dependent person to teach me anything, truly.  Because I would doubt he had the confidence in his own ability to properly instruct and to empathize with me, were he forced to depend on his sight to teach a skill I would be using independent of the  sense of sight.

 

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moderated Re: spelling mistakes

Gene Warner
 

Yeah, nobody's perfect, especially me!

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 1:41 PM, David Diamond wrote:
wait a minute, you mean you're just as imperfect as I am. I can't believe that. Smile.
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*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
I try to remember to listen to my messages before posting them and not
just for spelling mistakes, but sometimes I forget to... :-(
Gene...
On 8/7/2022 10:33 AM, David Diamond wrote:
Are you talking about words like there and their?  Jaws, read out the inaccurate word or in the case mentioned, I knew the word was spelled wrong just by listening to it. Some don’t listen to their posts before sending them, though.  I have my M S spell checker set to check spelling before the message is sent.
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*Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:40:32 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
And then there's the problem of a typo or a spelling mistake resulting
in a valid word. A spell checker won't catch that.
Gene...
On 8/7/2022 12:25 AM, David Diamond wrote:
  > when does Spell Checker has no idea what I'm trying to say. Are use Siri
  > to get the correct spelling.
  >
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  > *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Glenn /
  > Lenny <glenn@...>
  > *Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:21:47 PM
  > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
  > *Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
  > Sometimes in some email clients, the subject field does not get spell
  > checked.
  > I'm sure it was a typo and not a mis-spelling.
  > But sometimes if I mis-spelled a word so badly that my spell checker
  > can't offer a suggestion, I ask Alexa how to spell the word.
  > Glenn
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > *From:* David Diamond <mailto:Daviddiamond2019@...
<mailto:Daviddiamond2019@... <mailto:Daviddiamond2019@...>>>
  > *To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>>>
  > *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2022 11:17 PM
  > *Subject:* spelling mistakes
  >
  > are use Microsoft Spell Checker to make sure there's no spelling
  > mistakes before I post a message
  >
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moderated Re: spelling mistakes

David Diamond
 

wait a minute, you mean you're just as imperfect as I am. I can't believe that. Smile.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 7:49:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: spelling mistakes
 
I try to remember to listen to my messages before posting them and not
just for spelling mistakes, but sometimes I forget to... :-(

Gene...


On 8/7/2022 10:33 AM, David Diamond wrote:
> Are you talking about words like there and their?  Jaws, read out the
> inaccurate word or in the case mentioned, I knew the word was spelled
> wrong just by listening to it. Some don’t listen to their posts before
> sending them, though.  I have my M S spell checker set to check spelling
> before the message is sent.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Gene Warner
> <genewarner3@...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:40:32 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
>
> And then there's the problem of a typo or a spelling mistake resulting
> in a valid word. A spell checker won't catch that.
>
> Gene...
>
>
> On 8/7/2022 12:25 AM, David Diamond wrote:
>  > when does Spell Checker has no idea what I'm trying to say. Are use Siri
>  > to get the correct spelling.
>  >
>  > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>>
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Glenn /
>  > Lenny <glenn@...>
>  > *Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:21:47 PM
>  > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
>  > *Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
>  > Sometimes in some email clients, the subject field does not get spell
>  > checked.
>  > I'm sure it was a typo and not a mis-spelling.
>  > But sometimes if I mis-spelled a word so badly that my spell checker
>  > can't offer a suggestion, I ask Alexa how to spell the word.
>  > Glenn

>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > *From:* David Diamond <mailto:Daviddiamond2019@...
> <mailto:Daviddiamond2019@...>>
>  > *To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>>
>  > *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2022 11:17 PM
>  > *Subject:* spelling mistakes
>  >
>  > are use Microsoft Spell Checker to make sure there's no spelling
>  > mistakes before I post a message
>  >
>  > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>>
>  >
>
>
>
>
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moderated Re: Locking the mouse buttons:

 

Emulated mouse button locking works (or is supposed to) just like using the real keys - it stays on only until the "drop" part of the command is completed or when something else is done that causes a locked mouse to release.

David Diamond is correct that the easiest thing to do is to turn on the screen shade/curtain, as even the most screen-reader educated sighted person generally does not even try to use a screen reader without vision being present.  "Flying blind" is just not generally something we can do, because we just don't have to do it in day to day life in general.
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moderated Re: Locking the mouse buttons:

David Diamond
 

why not just enable screen shade. This way they won't be able to see the screen. A lot easier than locking the mouse keys. I would think. That and you could suggest that maybe they broke your computer.


moderated Locking the mouse buttons:

Angel
 

I was wondering if both mouse buttons are locked whether sighted people would not be able to use the computer.  Unless they were familiar with the use of the keyboard.  I would think if the mouse buttons were locked, this would make it impossible to use the mouse successfully, while Jaws was turned on.  I should think this technic would be easier than turning off the mouse via the control panel.   

 

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moderated Re: Jaws authorization key question.

Gene Warner
 

I was already corrected by Ann, one correction is enough.

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 11:25 AM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Gene. The About dialog within JAWS contains your Serial Number, and a locking code, but does not, and never has, contained the Authorization Key, which is a code containing about 20 characters, consisting of letters and numbers.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws authorization key question.
If your copy of JAWS is activated, you should be able to find the
authorization key in the "About JAWS" dialog.
To get there:
1. Press Insert+J to bring up the JAWS menu.
2. Press up arrow twice, this should take you to the "About JAWS" option.
3. Press enter. This opens the "About JAWS" dialog.
Press Insert+Alt+W to virtualize the dialog.
You can now browse the dialog text with the arrow keys to find your
authorization key.
Alternatively, you can go to Vispero's web site and use your JAWS serial
number to retrieve your authorization key. Here is the link:
https://fsactivate.freedomscientific.com/
Gene...
On 8/7/2022 10:56 AM, Albert Cutolo wrote:
Good morning everyone,

Where would I go too locate my Jaws authorization key? I can’t for the
life of me, remember where it is or how too find it.


moderated Re: Jaws authorization key question.

Gene Warner
 

You are right, my mistake, to get your authorization key, you'll have to use the Freedom Scientific activation web site that I mentioned in my message.

Sorry for the mistake.

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 11:23 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
The serial number is there, but not the authorization code.  I don't know a place to find it easily, but if you call Freedom Scientific with your serial number they will email it to  you.At 10:11


moderated Re: Jaws authorization key question.

Bill White
 

Hi, Gene. The About dialog within JAWS contains your Serial Number, and a locking code, but does not, and never has, contained the Authorization Key, which is a code containing about 20 characters, consisting of letters and numbers.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws authorization key question.

If your copy of JAWS is activated, you should be able to find the
authorization key in the "About JAWS" dialog.

To get there:
1. Press Insert+J to bring up the JAWS menu.
2. Press up arrow twice, this should take you to the "About JAWS" option.
3. Press enter. This opens the "About JAWS" dialog.
Press Insert+Alt+W to virtualize the dialog.

You can now browse the dialog text with the arrow keys to find your
authorization key.

Alternatively, you can go to Vispero's web site and use your JAWS serial
number to retrieve your authorization key. Here is the link:

https://fsactivate.freedomscientific.com/

Gene...


On 8/7/2022 10:56 AM, Albert Cutolo wrote:
Good morning everyone,

Where would I go too locate my Jaws authorization key? I can’t for the
life of me, remember where it is or how too find it.


moderated Re: Jaws authorization key question.

Ann Byrne
 

The serial number is there, but not the authorization code. I don't know a place to find it easily, but if you call Freedom Scientific with your serial number they will email it to you.At 10:11


moderated Re: Jaws authorization key question.

Gene Warner
 

If your copy of JAWS is activated, you should be able to find the authorization key in the "About JAWS" dialog.

To get there:
1. Press Insert+J to bring up the JAWS menu.
2. Press up arrow twice, this should take you to the "About JAWS" option.
3. Press enter. This opens the "About JAWS" dialog.
Press Insert+Alt+W to virtualize the dialog.

You can now browse the dialog text with the arrow keys to find your authorization key.

Alternatively, you can go to Vispero's web site and use your JAWS serial number to retrieve your authorization key. Here is the link:

https://fsactivate.freedomscientific.com/

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 10:56 AM, Albert Cutolo wrote:
Good morning everyone,
Where would I go too locate my Jaws  authorization key? I can’t for the  life of me, remember where it is or how too find it.


moderated Jaws authorization key question.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Where would I go too locate my Jaws  authorization key? I can’t for the  life of me, remember where it is or how too find it.                                            

 


moderated Re: spelling mistakes

Gene Warner
 

I try to remember to listen to my messages before posting them and not just for spelling mistakes, but sometimes I forget to... :-(

Gene...

On 8/7/2022 10:33 AM, David Diamond wrote:
Are you talking about words like there and their?  Jaws, read out the inaccurate word or in the case mentioned, I knew the word was spelled wrong just by listening to it. Some don’t listen to their posts before sending them, though.  I have my M S spell checker set to check spelling before the message is sent.
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*Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:40:32 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
And then there's the problem of a typo or a spelling mistake resulting
in a valid word. A spell checker won't catch that.
Gene...
On 8/7/2022 12:25 AM, David Diamond wrote:
> when does Spell Checker has no idea what I'm trying to say. Are use Siri
> to get the correct spelling.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Glenn /
> Lenny <glenn@...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:21:47 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
> Sometimes in some email clients, the subject field does not get spell
> checked.
> I'm sure it was a typo and not a mis-spelling.
> But sometimes if I mis-spelled a word so badly that my spell checker
> can't offer a suggestion, I ask Alexa how to spell the word.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* David Diamond <mailto:Daviddiamond2019@...
<mailto:Daviddiamond2019@...>>
> *To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2022 11:17 PM
> *Subject:* spelling mistakes
>
> are use Microsoft Spell Checker to make sure there's no spelling
> mistakes before I post a message
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>>
>


moderated Re: spelling mistakes

David Diamond
 

Are you talking about words like there and their?  Jaws, read out the inaccurate word or in the case mentioned, I knew the word was spelled wrong just by listening to it. Some don’t listen to their posts before sending them, though.  I have my M S spell checker set to check spelling before the message is sent.   


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:40:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: spelling mistakes

 

And then there's the problem of a typo or a spelling mistake resulting
in a valid word. A spell checker won't catch that.

Gene...


On 8/7/2022 12:25 AM, David Diamond wrote:
> when does Spell Checker has no idea what I'm trying to say. Are use Siri
> to get the correct spelling.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Glenn /
> Lenny <glenn@...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 6, 2022 9:21:47 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: spelling mistakes
> Sometimes in some email clients, the subject field does not get spell
> checked.
> I'm sure it was a typo and not a mis-spelling.
> But sometimes if I mis-spelled a word so badly that my spell checker
> can't offer a suggestion, I ask Alexa how to spell the word.
> Glenn

> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* David Diamond <mailto:Daviddiamond2019@...>
> *To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2022 11:17 PM
> *Subject:* spelling mistakes
>
> are use Microsoft Spell Checker to make sure there's no spelling
> mistakes before I post a message
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>





moderated Re: preforming a right click

Justin Williams
 

Might be great for working with AIRA.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: preforming a right click

I ran across that setting quite a while ago when I was just browsing the settings to see if there was anything new that I could make use of. I turned it on so that if I ever have sighted assistance, I don't have to remember to turn it on for them.

Personally, I think that the default setting should be on. I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want it.

Gene...


On 8/6/2022 1:59 PM, JM Casey wrote:
It’s off by default, and I don’t think it has anything to do with
Windows 10 specifically (think it’s been in virtual options for a
while). But it’s an option in settings somewhere. It’s certainly very
helpful if you are using the computer with a sighted person looking at
what you’re doing.

I’ve forgotten the name of the setting but it’s somewhere int aht
virtual cursor lot.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* August 6, 2022 01:29 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: preforming a right click

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 01:27 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:

Starting with Windows 10, JAWS does provide a visual indication as
to where the virtual cursor is moving on a web page. Great for
demonstrations, etc.

-
If you happen to know how that's turned on and off, I would very much
appreciate having that information.
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