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Moderated Re: Ideas why focus jumps or is lost?

Gene Warner
 

I am trying this but instead of using quick settings, I used the settings center (insert+6) while in Edge so that the setting would be for the browser and not for any specific web page as quick setting might do.

Gene...

On 10/2/2022 4:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:

You can try the following but, this is only something to try, I can't say it'll fix the problem.
This might be from the screen refreshing automatically.  If you open Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, while in Chrome and type, refresh, into the search field the, Page Refresh, setting will come up.  Use the spacebar to toggle through the 3 options.  They are automatically, every 60 seconds and off.
After you make a change, if you indeed do, tab to okay and press enter to save / close.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mark <mailto:mweiler@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 02, 2022 12:16 PM
*Subject:* Ideas why focus jumps or is lost?
In another thread it was noted that sometimes in Chrome, JAWS loses focus or the focus suddenly jumps to the beginning of the page.  I've noticed this too but don't have an idea of why it is happening. Is it because of some kind of application event adds content?  I don't think it is random.


Moderated Re: Ideas why focus jumps or is lost?

Mike B.
 


You can try the following but, this is only something to try, I can't say it'll fix the problem.
 
This might be from the screen refreshing automatically.  If you open Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, while in Chrome and type, refresh, into the search field the, Page Refresh, setting will come up.  Use the spacebar to toggle through the 3 options.  They are automatically, every 60 seconds and off.
 
After you make a change, if you indeed do, tab to okay and press enter to save / close.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 12:16 PM
Subject: Ideas why focus jumps or is lost?

In another thread it was noted that sometimes in Chrome, JAWS loses focus or the focus suddenly jumps to the beginning of the page.  I've noticed this too but don't have an idea of why it is happening. Is it because of some kind of application event adds content?  I don't think it is random.


Moderated Ideas why focus jumps or is lost?

Mark
 

In another thread it was noted that sometimes in Chrome, JAWS loses focus or the focus suddenly jumps to the beginning of the page.  I've noticed this too but don't have an idea of why it is happening. Is it because of some kind of application event adds content?  I don't think it is random.


Moderated Re: Recycle Bin Question

Mike B.
 

Hi Tom,
 
Try the following:
1. Highlight the Recycle Bin desktop icon but, do not open it, just select it.
 
Press, Alt + enter, to open the Recycle Bin icon properties.
 
Now tab to, Display delete confirmation dialog, and make sure this is checked.  If it isn't, press the spacebar to check it, tab to Okay and press enter to save / close.
 
After doing this I quit getting the cancel dialog and only had to spacebar the yes button to confirm the deletion of the recycle bin.  But, the recycle bin won't show as empty until it's closed and reopened.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2022 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Recycle Bin Question

Thanks, David.

 

At least I know I’m not alone.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2022 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recycle Bin Question

 

I was going to reply to this message stating I’ve had this problem for years.  I go to close the recycle bin and get an error prompt.  Who knew just to be patient and let the computer do it's work.  Give it a minute.  Smile. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: September 30, 2022 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recycle Bin Question

 

Bill:

 

Thanks so much for this very helpful information.

 

I hope it will be of use for others as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recycle Bin Question

 

Hi, Tom. When I inquired of Google, Why am I seeing a message that reads Cancel all transfers in Progress when I try to empty the Recycle Bin, I found the following,

 

Last night when I was trying to shutdown Windows 10 PC, I suddenly saw a small strange message box with a title “This will cancel all transfers in progress” and with a confirmation message “Are you sure you want to cancel the transfers?” but without any further explanation.

When you search about this strange message box online, nothing much is available except some other people also wondering about this. The first thought that everyone asks is whether this is a malware. I myself became suspicious about malware infection and analyzed the window using many different tools.

Why am I seeing this message?

So what is this message about? It is a message displayed by Windows File Explorer. As anyone can imagine, it is displayed when you try to close Windows File Explorer process when some file operations are in progress. A very good scenario that I was able to repeat multiple times is when your computer’s storage drive has been idle for some time and then you suddenly start a file operation followed by system shutdown request.

For example, you were watching a YouTube video for some time, then you think of shutting down the PC and going to sleep. So you quickly close the browser, proceed to empty the recycle bin, then on Windows desktop you hit Alt+F4 to bring the classic shutdown dialog and proceed to shutdown the Windows. You might see this strange message appear.

How can I avoid this message in future?

One way to stop this message is by increasing system RAM or replacing the existing RAM modules to larger capacity ones. This will ensure that your system uses RAM instead of virtual memory when some programs become too large to fit on the limited amount of RAM your system has. Microsoft recommends at least 8 GB of RAM if you want better performance from your system.

If your system has a hard drive, then it could be part of the problem. You can start by upgrading to a solid state drive (SSD). When the hard drive has been idle and with disk caching enabled, it takes a few seconds for the hard drive to get ready and the file operation to be completed. Disk caching makes hard drive perform better because it buffers everything instead of actually writing to the hard drive. But this also means that the file operations are not instant and require a few extra seconds. If in the meanwhile, you start shutting down Windows, the file operations are incomplete and File Explorer might show you that strange message.

There is nothing to be done really. But if you want to avoid seeing this message, then just wait half a minute after starting any file operations (especially related to emptying of the recycle bin because these operations are invisible) before shutting down the Windows. It seems to appear when you use classic shutdown dialog, so you should start using the new shutdown using Start menu in Windows 10.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recycle Bin Question

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Recently, whenever I try to empty my re-cycle bin, I get a edialog asking me if I want to cancel all transfers in progress.

 

I can find the yes and no options, but when I hit enter or spacebar on the options, nothing seems to happen.

 

Then, if I totally exit out of the re-cycle bin and later go back in, the bin is totally empty.

 

Can anyone explain what might be going on here?  I’m not even sure what these options mean and why they have recently appeared.

 

I’m using Jaws 2022 and Windows 10 here.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

 

 

 

 


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

JM Casey
 

Hey brian.

Mine seems permanent, although ti’s gotten switched back on accidentally a couple of times. I’m pretty certain I did that thougha nd it wasn’t some sneaky move by google.

I am mostly using youtube through chrome at this time. It seems to retain my preference across multiple sessions.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 2, 2022 02:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox

 

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 02:41 PM, JM Casey wrote:

youtube has an autoplay toggle button which I just turn off, so nothing happens after my videos finish.

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But you have to do that each and every time.  At one time, this could be thrown and it would be a permanent choice, but no more.

All that the add-on does is restore that permanence behind the scenes so you don't need to constantly be toggling that toggle.  And it is universally applicable to every YouTube video you play over time.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

JM Casey
 

Yeah, mine periodically gets turned on, too. It’s pretty easy to accidentally press a button either on the phone app or even in the web browser.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 2, 2022 02:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox

 

I wondered how that got turned on the other day.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 1:49 PM

Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox

 

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 02:41 PM, JM Casey wrote:

youtube has an autoplay toggle button which I just turn off, so nothing happens after my videos finish.

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But you have to do that each and every time.  At one time, this could be thrown and it would be a permanent choice, but no more.

All that the add-on does is restore that permanence behind the scenes so you don't need to constantly be toggling that toggle.  And it is universally applicable to every YouTube video you play over time.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: Righ and left click

Don Walls
 

Brian, as always, your swift response is much appreciated.  You give such a lot of your time to this list and I know I’m not the only one who is grateful.
 
Don


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

K0LNY
 


I wondered how that got turned on the other day.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 02:41 PM, JM Casey wrote:
youtube has an autoplay toggle button which I just turn off, so nothing happens after my videos finish.
-
But you have to do that each and every time.  At one time, this could be thrown and it would be a permanent choice, but no more.

All that the add-on does is restore that permanence behind the scenes so you don't need to constantly be toggling that toggle.  And it is universally applicable to every YouTube video you play over time.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

 

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 02:41 PM, JM Casey wrote:
youtube has an autoplay toggle button which I just turn off, so nothing happens after my videos finish.
-
But you have to do that each and every time.  At one time, this could be thrown and it would be a permanent choice, but no more.

All that the add-on does is restore that permanence behind the scenes so you don't need to constantly be toggling that toggle.  And it is universally applicable to every YouTube video you play over time.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: Ad blockers

 

As of this date, my preferred one (and it's more than just an ad-blocker) is uBlock Origin (Chrome/Chromium Version) or uBlock Origin (Firefox - Author is Raymond Hill).

AdBlock Plus is my second choice, and is still very good.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

JM Casey
 

Hey Brian.

I agree with your second paragraph;’ that would be really annoying. But perhaps I’m missing something; youtube has an autoplay toggle button which I just turn off, so nothing happens after my videos finish.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 2, 2022 02:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox

 

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 01:58 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I play youtube videos while I’m doing stuff aroudn the house and not attending to the computer.

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As an aside, you may want to consider the Stop AutoPlay Next for YouTube add-on/extension.  It does exactly what it says.

I never want YouTube to keep advancing from the video I'm actually interested in, and am playing, to the next and next and next random one it chooses for me after the one that interested me is done.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: Righ and left click

 

By the way, you can use the applications/context menu key if your keyboard has one, or SHIFT + F10 for right click and it's consistent in a way that the screen reader emulated version is not.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: Righ and left click

 

That depends on whether you're using desktop keyboard layout or laptop layout, but I'll list desktop first, laptop second:

Left Click      NumPad Slash         CAPSLOCK + NumRow 8
Right Click    NumPad Star           CAPSLOCK + NumRow 9

Emulated mouse clicks are inconsistent as far as when they do and do not work.  I always advise my clients to use the real buttons, whether on a "hobbled mouse" (you tape over the optical port on the bottom so the mouse pointer cannot move when it's touched/moved) or a masked mousepad, where the trackpad portion is covered with a rectangle of cardboard so only the left and right mouse click keys are available.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Ad blockers

Gene Warner
 

Let's take the ad blockers discussion to another thread please.

Gene...

On 10/2/2022 2:28 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 01:58 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I play youtube videos while I’m doing stuff aroudn the house and not
attending to the computer.
-
As an aside, you may want to consider the Stop AutoPlay Next for YouTube add-on/extension.  It does exactly what it says.
I never want YouTube to keep advancing from the video I'm actually interested in, and am playing, to the next and next and next random one it chooses for me after the one that interested me is done.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA- Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
*/Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy./*
    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

 

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 01:58 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I play youtube videos while I’m doing stuff aroudn the house and not attending to the computer.
-
As an aside, you may want to consider the Stop AutoPlay Next for YouTube add-on/extension.  It does exactly what it says.

I never want YouTube to keep advancing from the video I'm actually interested in, and am playing, to the next and next and next random one it chooses for me after the one that interested me is done.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

Gene Warner
 

I guess they don't list those in the releases list which is where I get my copies.

That is one thing I wish all these purveyors of Chromium based browsers would do is offer these extended support versions, they are always breaking something with their frequent updates.

Gene...

On 10/2/2022 2:15 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Extended support release I believe that stands for.
It does not break accessibility with browser updates.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox
ESR?
Gene...
On 10/2/2022 1:40 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I use the ESR version, and sometimes FF crashes.
Amazon.com is the worse pages for FF, I sometimes clear the history in FF,
and that helps speed it up, but not for long.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Covici" <covici@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox


Be careful, I have been using firefox for a while, and at least on my
system, Jaws tends to freeze up quite a lot and there are other
accessibility problems. Its a very nice browser, but Jaws does not
always get along.

On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:15:38 -0400,
JM Casey wrote:

Oh, I'm sure that is google's motivation. But I’m not on the internet to
please google -- only for my own benefit. And many people are very
displeased about this new Google plan.
What's that approach you mean?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: October 2, 2022 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox

I can understand why Google would want to prevent ad blockers from
working
since advertising is where they get most of their income.

I guess I'm patient because even if Firefox is slower than Chromium based
browsers, I'm not worried or concerned about it.

And for blocking ads, I use an approach to blocking ads that doesn't
depend on an add on and works for any browser I choose to use without
needing me to do anything with the browser.

Gene...


On 10/2/2022 11:48 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey.
I haven't really been inconvenienced by the problems you mentioned using
Chrome. However, I would like to ween myself away from it, given the
thing I mentioned earlier -- I don't know what I'd do without my
ad-blocker and the fact that google is trying to break them is really
irksome. Also, all other Chromium-based browsers will eventually
probably have to switch to manifest 3 for extensions too, and then, you
can say goodbye to the proper functionality of your ad-blocker. Brave
might be an exception, but I have some misgivings about that one, too --
might consider using it a little more in the coming year though.
I still find Firefox to be a bit slow, and this is unfortunate. It just
doesn't seem as responsive on my system as chrome does.
I also have Vivaldi, which is Chromium-based, and which I'd really love
to use more, but it has some quirks which mean I haven't figured out how
to best make use of it with a screen-reader. Its days of full
add-blocker functionality are, of course, also numbered.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: October 2, 2022 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox

You could be right there, the Chromium engine seems to be gathering a
number of problems with screen readers that don't seem to be getting any
attention. Problems like the screen reader suddenly losing its focus on
the browser, or the cursor suddenly jumping to the beginning or the end
of the page just to name two of them.

I have the documentation files already, maybe I'll just decide to start
a list for visually impaired Firefox users myself.

I'm already on the Tech Talk list so I'll try there for now, but a list
for visually impaired Firefox users seems like a very appealing idea.

Gene...


On 10/2/2022 11:18 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Hey Gene.
I don't know of such a list, nor, indeed, many mailing lists of this
specific nature. You could always post to BlindTech, or even this list,
probably, as subjects that are not altogether directly related to
screen-readers seem more OK here than on the nVDA main list, for
instance. I think Mozilla also has a forum of some kind on their
website. Not sure how many visually impaired users there would be
there, but you could still consider it a helpful resource.

I think we will see a massive influx of Firefox users starting next
year, as Chrome is moving to manifest 3 and will be preventing things
like ad-blockers from properly doing their jobs. So maybe the creation
of such a list as you are asking for is not far off on the horizon.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Warner
Sent: October 2, 2022 09:46 AM
To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: From Edge to Firefox

Because of all the strange behaviors that Chromium based browsers are
showing with JAWS I have decided to switch to Firefox. There is a
support list for visually impaired users of Thunderbird, but there
doesn't appear to be a similar list for Firefox. So can anyone suggest
an appropriate list where I can get any help I might need while making
the transition?

Thanks!
Gene...



























Moderated Righ and left click

Don Walls
 

Excuse my ignorance, but what are the keystrokes for right and left clicks, please?  Thanks.
 
 
Don


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

Gene Warner
 

You are probably right about that, the hosts file only works when it is your computer that is requesting the ad, if an ad is pushed by the web page itself the hosts file won't block it.

Gene...

On 10/2/2022 1:58 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yeah, I’ve seen some of u-block origin’s list and it is…very extensive to say the least.
And of course a big thing I use an ad-blocker for is youtube. I play youtube videos while I’m doing stuff aroudn the house and not attending to the computer. If I didn’t have a blocker I’d be having ads thrown at me every five minutes, which is how it works on the youtube app on my phone.
I doubt the hostfile approach works for this.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* October 2, 2022 01:49 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: From Edge to Firefox
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 01:04 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I'm a little skeptical whether it's as effective as an ad-blocker,
or else they woudlnt' be used by some of the very tech-savvy people
I know who do use them.
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Your skepticism is warranted.  These purpose-dedicated tools did not come into existence because the hosts file "can do it all."  Not to mention no end user is as likely to be able to keep up on all the hosts that need to be blocked as organizations dedicated to security and ad-blocking do.
There's more, a lot more, to ad blocking than the hosts file, and all you need to do is look at any one of the common subscription lists used by multiple ad-blockers to see just how much more.
--
Brian *- *Virginia, USA*- *Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
/*Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.*/
    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

 

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 02:15 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Extended support release I believe that stands for.
It does not break accessibility with browser updates.
-
It does.  But you have to realize that the screen reader makers themselves are not confining themselves to an ESR release, but to the ongoing production releases that go to the public.

You can end up having some weird issues as the production versions advance and things that needed to be done to keep up with them "don't match up" like they used to with an ESR.

These days, both JAWS and NVDA (and from what I have heard, Narrator) keep up with the latest releases of Edge, Firefox, and Chrome.  There are always short windows where any one of those browsers may get ahead of what the screen reader developers can keep up with, but they're not frequent.  They also tend to get resolved pretty quickly, as the only thing it makes sense for screen readers to ensure compatiblity with is what's actually the most current on the market.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Moderated Re: From Edge to Firefox

Gene Warner
 

This page has what you are looking for.

https://blogs.msmvps.com/hostsnews/

I am now using the hosts file available from:

https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

Because the author of the MVPS hosts file apparently had some medical issues and stopped updating the file about 18 months ago.

Gene...


Gene...

On 10/2/2022 1:52 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Well Gene. You have mentioned several times how much you like the Host File Approach. Any chance that you will tell the list how to accomplish this? Or, at least direct us to a web site that has an explanation and directions?
Regards,
James B
-----Original Message From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 11:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: From Edge to Firefox
Just as everybody else who uses Chromium to build their browser adds
functionality to their browser that benefits them. I have no doubt that
Brave and Vivaldi are just as guilty of this as Google and Microsoft
are. I also have no doubt that the purveyors of ad blockers are just as
guilty too.
That is why I prefer the host file approach to ad blocking. It is
completely independent of any browser or ad blocker and works with any
browser without needing any ad blocking add ins.
Gene...
On 10/2/2022 12:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

I can understand why Google would want to prevent ad blockers from
working since advertising is where they get most of their income.

-
Which is certainly true, but Google does not tightly control Chromium,
per se, just Chrome, which is built on it.

While Chromium originated with Google, and they still are actively
involved in it, it is an open-source project. It would be considered
completely unacceptable by all the other users of the Chromium code base
were Google to try to insert its own advertising "needs" into that code.

I haven't used Chrome, proper, in years, preferring the privacy-focused
browsers that share the Chromium base such as Brave or Vivaldi, and
there are others. And the uBlock Origin adblocker (and it's way more
than just that) works beautifully in Chrome and Firefox both. There is
no way I can keep up with the appropriate things to block like the
developers of these ad blocking and privacy maintaining (to the extent
possible) products do.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA- Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy./*

~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/