Date   

Re: downloading jaws

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

Richard, I'm new to Jaws, been using NVDA and Window eyes. I did set up jaws and have been slowly learning. I made some changes to Jaws, is there some folder that I'd copy over to have the same settings? If so, how would you go about it? Thank You.

On 10/25/2017 11:25 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Jaws never replaces itself. It always adds another folder and desktop icon for the new version so you can still use the prior version if you find things that work better with that version.
That is something I wish more programs would do.
Uninstalling the beta if you are running it makes sense.
Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
🖖🏿
On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:12 AM, dennis <dennisc67@gmail.com <mailto:dennisc67@gmail.com>> wrote:

i had to uninstall the beta to get it to install.


On 10/25/2017 12:57 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank You for the info. One more question, once downloaded, will it install over the one already installed? Thanks.

On 10/25/2017 9:25 AM, george b wrote:
Go to freedomscientific.com <http://freedomscientific.com>
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.










<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>

<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>


Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So, I’ve been dealing with this issue since Jaws 18 was put out on 9/26/17. Along with the Outlook address thing that later got fixed, I was having trouble when replying or forwarding message in Outlook. Arrowing down was not possible. Jaws would behave as though I was at the bottom of the screen. Even if I arrowed up once and then tried going back down to the line I was previously at, I’d encounter that same barrier. Navigating the message body of text with the read by paragraph or sentence commands, Jaws worked as always. It was just the read/navigate by line that was giving me problems.

VFO tech support emailed me instructing that I should try doing a Jaws repair. Do the copy path from my JFW .exe file and add the / type repair at the end in the run dialog box.

As I saw that Jaws 2018 came out today, I figured I’d try to get this resolved. I for one reason or another hadn’t had the chance to go through with the repair, but figured I should try addressing it before upgrading to JFW 2018.

In any event, I went through the repair process earlier today and along with all the other typical Jaws chatter when doing an installation (I was using a JFW.exe file from October that addressed the Outlook issue), I heard Jaws say something about a sentinel system driver not being copied. By the end of the process I then got the following error message:

The JAWS setup package could not install the required component

JAWSRepair.  The process will now exit.

OK

I already wrote VFO back about this, but as it’s Jaws 2018 release day, I don’t expect a follow up any time soon as I’m sure they’ll be dealing with all sorts of stuff related to that.

Anyone have an idea on what this is or how to fix it?

Thanks,

Cristobal


Win 2018

Don H
 

New to Jaws. I have two /SMA's and assume one will be used by this upgrade. Is it my understanding that if you have a SMA FS also sends you a new copy of Jaws on disc?
Thanks


Re: downloading jaws

Richard Turner
 


Jaws never replaces itself. It always adds another folder and desktop icon for the new version so you can still use the prior version if you find things that work better with that version. 
That is something I wish more programs would do.
Uninstalling the beta if you are running it makes sense.
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:12 AM, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:

i had to uninstall the beta to get it to install.


On 10/25/2017 12:57 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank You for the info. One more question, once downloaded, will it install over the one already installed? Thanks.

On 10/25/2017 9:25 AM, george b wrote:
Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.














Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Problems with Excel

Dave...
 

Your experience has discussed on this list, or on others. I believe the current resolution is to report the problem to freedom scientific. Not sure if any other solution is available right now.


Dave
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 25, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Brenda Emerson-Alford <blea417@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

This is my first time writing to this group.  I have been using JAWS for over 20 years.  I recently went into Windows 10 and have the latest version of JAWS 18 running.  I am using MS Office 2016.  I have worked through most of the things that are different from Windows 7 and Office 2010.  However, in the past month I have come across a real problem in excel.  I am having problems with JAWS either becoming so delayed that I wait more than 30 seconds when I try to arrow to the next cell or sometimes JAWS just turns itself off.  When I initially open the excel program everything seems to work fine but after about three to 5 minutes this problem starts.  I am working in spreadsheets I have had for several years.  I am not sure if this is part of the problem or not. 

 

Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this problem are greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 


Re: downloading jaws

dennis
 

i had to uninstall the beta to get it to install.


On 10/25/2017 12:57 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank You for the info. One more question, once downloaded, will it install over the one already installed? Thanks.

On 10/25/2017 9:25 AM, george b wrote:
Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.














Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: downloading jaws

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

Thank You for the info. One more question, once downloaded, will it install over the one already installed? Thanks.

On 10/25/2017 9:25 AM, george b wrote:
Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install
Hows that
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws
I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.


Re: trouble installing 2018

dennis
 

thanks.


On 10/25/2017 12:23 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

Hi,  I was stuck until I closed the JAWS program which then allowed the install to proceed with the familiar prompts.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: dennis
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trouble installing 2018

 

i have downloaded the program 4 times and it will not install. it starts and after about 5 seconds completely quits.anyone else having this problem?

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 



Re: trouble installing 2018

Dave Mitchell
 

Hi,  I was stuck until I closed the JAWS program which then allowed the install to proceed with the familiar prompts.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: dennis
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trouble installing 2018

 

i have downloaded the program 4 times and it will not install. it starts and after about 5 seconds completely quits.anyone else having this problem?

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 


Re: downloading jaws

Richard Turner
 


i'm assuming this requires an SMA as it is a full version upgrade?
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:20 AM, george b <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.








Re: downloading jaws

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

yes

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: October 25, 2017 10:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downloading jaws

 

 

i'm assuming this requires an SMA as it is a full version upgrade?

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:20 AM, george b <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.







Re: downloading jaws

Richard Turner
 


i'm assuming this requires an SMA as it is a full version upgrade?
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:20 AM, george b <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.








trouble installing 2018

dennis
 

i have downloaded the program 4 times and it will not install. it starts and after about 5 seconds completely quits.anyone else having this problem?


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: downloading jaws

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Go to freedomscientific.com
Click on downloads
Choose jaws
Choose the version you need
Choose save not run
When finished close browser
Find the download and click on it to install

Hows that

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: October 25, 2017 9:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading jaws

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release?
I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current.
Thanks for any info.


downloading jaws

Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...>
 

I'm new to jaws. What is the proper way to upgrade to this new release? I went into Jaws help to check for upgrades and it said I was current. Thanks for any info.


Re: windows powershell

John Covici
 

Maybe you have key echo set differently?

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:33:12 -0400,
Soronel Haetir wrote:

I rarely use powershell but I can tell you that I do not experience a
double character echo. I could not tell you what settings difference
to look at, just letting you know that this is not an inherent problem
with jaws.

On 10/25/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
OK, I will try that. Thanks.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:03:20 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi again, John,

What I am talking about would be the same as toggling speech for
the keyboard. It would not change anything else that
happens. For example, I type with words spoken after I press
space instead of hearing each character one at a time. It is
also possible to turn keyboard speech off, but I like to hear
what I am typing. The solution I suggested would allow you to
input something without it speaking which key is pressed, but
could allow the screen to speak what just showed up. This was
something I used to experience, pressing a key and having it
spoken as a keyboard press and then having it repeated as an item
written to the screen. The key still works as it was meant to,
but does not speak twice.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 8:22 AM, John Covici wrote:
Thanks -- but why would that be true in that program and not true in
the command prompt? Also, if I do that, will I be able to use the
arrow keys to edit the line? I will do some experimenting.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:07:26 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi John,

I don't know if this will help you, but you might try
insert-numrow 2 which toggles speech through none, characters,
words and characters and words. You may be getting echo of both
screen input and keyboard input.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 6:00 AM, John Covici wrote:
Hi. I am trying to use windows powershell which is their better
command processor with Jaws, but it repeats each character twice when
I type it. Is there any setting to fix this problem, or do you know
of a script I can get to do so?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Problems with Excel

Brenda Emerson-Alford
 

Hello,

 

This is my first time writing to this group.  I have been using JAWS for over 20 years.  I recently went into Windows 10 and have the latest version of JAWS 18 running.  I am using MS Office 2016.  I have worked through most of the things that are different from Windows 7 and Office 2010.  However, in the past month I have come across a real problem in excel.  I am having problems with JAWS either becoming so delayed that I wait more than 30 seconds when I try to arrow to the next cell or sometimes JAWS just turns itself off.  When I initially open the excel program everything seems to work fine but after about three to 5 minutes this problem starts.  I am working in spreadsheets I have had for several years.  I am not sure if this is part of the problem or not. 

 

Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this problem are greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 


Jaws 2018 Is Out

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Hi just wanted to let you all know that Jaws 2018 is out.

I just installed it.

 

Pastor Gil


Re: how to insert row in excel

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I got a fair bit out of the FS paid webinar, but it has gone up in price since.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: October 24, 2017 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Hi,

This is really nice.  I was using the context (applications) key, but this is even easier.  Is there a place where one can get a list of these types of commands for faster navigation through the program?  I don't do much with spreadsheets, but would like to learn more.  There are things I could do if I had more knowledge.  I did take a Hadley course a couple of years ago and it was enough to help me get started.  However, there is much more available that could simplify things even better.  Thank you. 

Carol

On 10/24/2017 1:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

It is simply Control+NumPad+, if I said Cpontrol+Shift previously I apologize

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

I have the latest version of Jaws, both release and beta of 2018; Excel 2016 via the Office 365 subscription, on a Windows 10 machine running the Fall creator’s update  and control+shift+numpad+ does nothing.

 

But, application key, I, enter, then r and enter  inserts a row, etc.

It would be wonderful if the hotkey worked.

Is there an addon I am missing or something?

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Another shortcut is

Control+Numpad+, that is basically Control+PC Cursor. It will bring up the insert menu, then Alt+r will insert an entire row, Alt+C an entire column and you don’t even have to press the numlock for this to work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Even easier, Excel remembers the old menu commands in many cases. So, Insert I,  then r for row or c for column works, too.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to insert row in excel

 

Alt H, I, R

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: October 20, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how to insert row in excel

 

I created a sheet in excel 2007

And need to place an additional  row

But can not find how to do that.

Alt I does not give me the option.

Nor clicking insert after hitting alt gives me the option.

What am I missing?

Running windows 10, 17.o9 jaws 2018 beta 3

All help is appreciated

Mercy without repentance is license

 



This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114


If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key
send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.

 


Re: windows powershell

Soronel Haetir
 

I rarely use powershell but I can tell you that I do not experience a
double character echo. I could not tell you what settings difference
to look at, just letting you know that this is not an inherent problem
with jaws.

On 10/25/17, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
OK, I will try that. Thanks.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:03:20 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi again, John,

What I am talking about would be the same as toggling speech for
the keyboard. It would not change anything else that
happens. For example, I type with words spoken after I press
space instead of hearing each character one at a time. It is
also possible to turn keyboard speech off, but I like to hear
what I am typing. The solution I suggested would allow you to
input something without it speaking which key is pressed, but
could allow the screen to speak what just showed up. This was
something I used to experience, pressing a key and having it
spoken as a keyboard press and then having it repeated as an item
written to the screen. The key still works as it was meant to,
but does not speak twice.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 8:22 AM, John Covici wrote:
Thanks -- but why would that be true in that program and not true in
the command prompt? Also, if I do that, will I be able to use the
arrow keys to edit the line? I will do some experimenting.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:07:26 -0400,
Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi John,

I don't know if this will help you, but you might try
insert-numrow 2 which toggles speech through none, characters,
words and characters and words. You may be getting echo of both
screen input and keyboard input.

Carol


On 10/25/2017 6:00 AM, John Covici wrote:
Hi. I am trying to use windows powershell which is their better
command processor with Jaws, but it repeats each character twice when
I type it. Is there any setting to fix this problem, or do you know
of a script I can get to do so?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com



--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com