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moderated Clicking on a new message from list closes Outlook

Ed Culpepper
 

This problem cropped up in the last couple of days. When I get the digest message from this list and click on it in my inbox, outlook is closed. I have to restart Outlook to regain access to my inbox. I can access list messages from my iPhone, but not from my PC laptop or desktop. Any Space ideas why this may be happening to Outlook on my PC computers? I would prefer to access messages from the list on my desktop or laptop rather than on my iPhone. I appreciate any suggestions.

J Edward Culpepper , PhD
Huntsville, Alabama


moderated Re: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

 

If JAWS is having its speech output by speakers, and that sound is in range of the microphone, you cannot avoid what you're trying to avoid.  And that's even with multiple sound cards.  Ambient sound is ambient sound and it will be picked up by a microphone, or at least an omnidirectional microphone.

Your best bet is a set of earbuds or a headset, with sound output directed there, while using either a built-in microphone on the laptop or an external one that's just a microphone or the microphone on a webcam for a desktop.  

You just can't have the JAWS output as ambient sound that can be picked up by your microphone.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

WESLEY BURDEN
 

I have two yeti USB microphones and that's all I use and love them

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

Yeti makes a nice USB microphone. Also has headphone jack so you can hear audio. Or you can leave audio through speakers and just use the mic. However, in this setup mic will pick up the speakers.
I use the computer speakers and the Yeti mic and when I need to I plug headphones into the headphone jack on bottom of mic.
Logitech also makes nice USB mic / headsets.
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

Hello,
I am considering a USB microphone for use in Zoom meetings in lieu of a headset with microphone and I was wondering if JAWS speech would come in on the microphone if I were to use this set up? The JAWS speech coming through is something that I would like to alleviate.
This was occurring with the laptop and built-in microphone.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

soner
 

Hi, I do not talk about it sir, follow the steps what I described if
you can, and you will understand I guess.

On 5/22/21, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
In Chrome, if you hit shift-enter on a link it should open in a new
window, if you close that window, maybe you'd be back in the correct
position -- not tested by me.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 08:35:44 -0400,
Chris Hill wrote:

Yet another way that using a mail program is better than the
web.  I use my gmail in Thunderbird all the time.



On 5/22/2021 05:33, soner wrote:
Hello, unlike on IE, the cursor's long lasting issue of losing its
previous location on Gmail has still been continuing for years, and
nobody cares it seems.
To reproduce the issue, in Gmail basic settings layout on Chrome,
navigate down below some among your mails, click one, then once the
message is opened, click back to inbox, normally, the expected
behavior should be the cursor positioning exactly on the last mail
check box of what you opened, but on Chrome it is not. It moves you
all the way up to the first mail, and honestly to jump on top of
messages in each return to inbox is a great tedium.

Kind regards

On 5/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
It works fine here


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd
via
groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link +
What's
New

The email thread keyboard commands don't work for me. I'm assuming
it's
because I've customised all my email groups into threads via View
Settings
rather than the standard thread button. Is it working for othrs?

John


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 19 May 2021 19:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link +
What's
New

Seems like a fairly significant update.
Hopefully the email thread thing gets more attention.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:48 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Subject: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link +
What's
New

Hi All,

Below is the direct download link for the May J2021 build, 2105.53,
update +
what's new in this release.

32 & 64 Bit Download Link:

https://jaws2021.vfo.digital/2021.2105.53.400/2F7F244C-52EA-42F7-ABE4-1F6762CE1BDE/J2021.2105.53.400-any.exe

What's New:

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2105.53 (May 2021)

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2021
release
and the May 2021 update.

Easier Navigation Through Email Threads in Outlook

It is quite common, particularly in a work or school environment, for
email
messages to include several people, resulting in lengthy message
threads as
participants reply and add to the conversation. When opening an email
that
contains a thread of messages, including replies or forwards, it can
be
time
consuming to read through the thread with JAWS or Fusion using the
ARROW
keys to locate particular responses as you need to move through all of
the
header
information for each message.

To make this easier, you can now use the N or SHIFT+N Navigation Quick
Keys
to quickly move to and place focus at the beginning of the next or
previous
message in an open email thread, skipping over all of the header
information. As you navigate with these commands, JAWS and Fusion reads
who
the message
is from, the date it was sent, and the first line. If you determine
this is
not the message in the thread you were looking for, continue using N
or
SHIFT+N
until you reach the message you want. While reading a particular
message in
the thread, pressing ALT+1 or ALT+2 now announces the sender or date
of
the
message at your current location. To review sender and date info for
the
entire email, press CTRL+HOME to move back to the top before pressing
ALT+1
or
ALT+2.

For users of the Focus braille display, you can set a NAV rocker to
move
through messages in an open email thread. While focused in an email,
press
the
NAV Mode button above the NAV rocker you want to set to cycle through
the
available navigation modes until "Message" is selected. If you are
using an
older
Focus display that includes Wiz Wheels, press down on the wheel to
select
the mode. If focus moves away from the message, the navigation mode
defaults
back to Line.

Note: Currently, this feature is only available while reading an email
and
not when editing a message. Additionally, while currently limited to
messages
containing replies and forwards from Outlook, we will continue to
improve
this feature over time to support emails from other sources like Gmail
and
iOS.

Voice Assistant Improvements

In the initial 2021 release, we introduced Voice Assistant, a new way
to
interact with JAWS in Windows 10. Voice Assistant offers a convenient
option
for
quickly performing various JAWS commands using natural speech instead
of
memorizing specific keystrokes. Since its introduction, we have
received
numerous
requests from customers wanting to be able to access more JAWS features
by
voice in order to increase productivity.

Some JAWS features you can now access by using voice commands include:

list of 16 items
* Selecting Text, especially blocks of text, has never been easier.
Just
locate the spot where you wish to begin selecting and say "Hey Sharky,
Start
Selection."
Then navigate to the location where selection should end and say "Hey
Sharky, Finish Selection." You did it! At that point, all text between
the
two locations
will be highlighted. You can confirm using the SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Command to verify you got it all. This works on Web Pages, in
Documents, and
even
in Emails.
* Working with the JAWS speech history without remembering any
keystrokes is
now even easier. Try any of the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Show Speech History"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Speech History to Clipboard"
* "Hey Sharky, Clear Speech History"
list end nesting level 1
* Working with Technical Support just got easier. Have you ever been
asked
to get the version information for your software or operating system?
Try
this
out:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Version Info"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Version Info to Clipboard"
list end nesting level 1
* You can now ask JAWS to help virtualize a control or window, or even
copy
them directly to the Clipboard. For example, go to the JAWS About
dialog
box,
and try the following:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Control"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Control"
list end nesting level 1
* When navigating Word documents and Outlook messages, you can use
Voice
Assistant to work with various elements like headings, tables, and
graphics.
Try
the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, List Headings"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Table"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Graphic"
list end nesting level 1
* When editing a Word document or Outlook message, you can use Voice
Assistant to move to Spelling or Grammatical errors. For Example, try:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Next Spelling Error"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Grammatical Error"
list end nesting level 1
* While reading a message in Outlook containing several replies or
forwards,
you can now say "Hey Sharky, Next Message" or "Previous Message." You
will
skip the headings and get right to the various replies within that
email.
* When focused on math content in Word that you wish to navigate, you
can
now say "Hey Sharky, Math Viewer." This opens the JAWS Math Viewer
where
you
can explore the current equation.
* To edit a math equation using the new Braille Math Editor, move to
the
equation and say "Hey Sharky, Math Editor."
* Toggle the Braille or Text Viewers on or off by saying "Hey Sharky,
Braille Viewer" or "Text Viewer."
* Start or stop a JAWS Tandem session by saying "Hey Sharky, Tandem."
* Open the Select a Voice Profile dialog box by saying "Hey Sharky,
Voice
Profile."
* To access something in the System Tray, try saying "Hey Sharky,
System
Tray."
* Speak the most recent Windows notification by saying "Hey Sharky,
Notification."
* If you have a laptop and want to know the charge level of its
battery,
just say "Hey Sharky, Battery."
* On a web page, open the Custom Label dialog box for labeling an
element by
saying "Hey Sharky, Custom Label."
list end

Braille Math Editor

JAWS and Fusion currently supports reading Math equations on web pages
that
are displayed using MathML, or math equations in Microsoft Word
documents
inserted
using the native Word math format. You can navigate the individual
elements
of an equation using the Math Viewer, accessed by pressing ENTER from a
web
page or INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS from a Word document when
focused
on the equation. If JAWS braille translation is set to Unified English
Braille
or United States English Grade 1 or Grade 2 output, math expressions
are
also shown on a braille display using Nemeth Braille format.

The new Braille Math Editor in JAWS now enables braille users in
Windows 10
to input their own equations, and in Office 365, edit existing
equations in
Word documents. To open the Math Editor, press the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+EQUALS (plus sign). Focus braille
display
users can
also press DOTS 3-4-6-7 CHORD.

When the Math Editor opens, focus is placed into an edit field where
you can
immediately begin typing the equation in Nemeth braille from your
braille
display's keyboard. As you type, a preview pane below the edit field
visually displays the equation so a sighted teacher or parent can
review it.
Once
you are finished inputting the math equation, press ENTER or choose
the
Accept button to close the Math Editor. If you are in Word, the
equation you
entered
is automatically inserted into the document at your current location.
The
equation is also copied to the Clipboard so you can paste it in other
applications.

Opening the Math Editor while focused on a math equation in a Word
document
displays the existing equation in Nemeth Braille, allowing you to edit
or
replace
it. After making any changes and pressing ENTER to close the editor,
the
current equation in the document is replaced by the new or modified
equation.

Note: After inserting or modifying an equation in Word from the Math
Editor,
the blinking cursor (dots 7 and 8) on the braille display always
remains at
the beginning of the math content, even as you move by character with
the
LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. If you need to insert another line of math
content,
first press the END key to move to the end of the current math content
and
then press ENTER.

While the Math Editor is opened, you have the following additional
options:

list of 3 items
* Press CTRL+N to start a new equation.
* Press CTRL+P to preview the current equation in the Math Viewer.
When
finished, press ESC to return to the Math Editor.
* Press ALT+E to open the edit menu where you can copy your Nemeth
Braille
to the Clipboard using a specific format. MathML is the default format
when
copying, however, depending on the application where you intend to
paste the
equation, you can also choose to copy your Nemeth Braille to LaTeX or
Braille
ASCII. After choosing a format to copy to, paste the equation into the
specific application before pressing ENTER or selecting Accept to close
the
Math
Editor as this always copies as MathML and will erase the current
clipboard
contents.
list end

To learn more about Nemeth Braille, check out this
Nemeth Tutorial
which teaches this braille code beginning with the very basics up
through
advanced mathematics.

Other Changes
list of 12 items
* Resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the download status
of
files in Edge Chromium.
* Addressed an issue where the text of a link in a GMail message was
not
being read if it spanned multiple lines.
* When selecting a link or button on a web page that opens a modal
dialog
such as a calendar, resolved an issue where JAWS was reading the
entire
contents
of the dialog all at once as soon as it gained focus.
* JAWS now indicates when you move in and out of text in Google Docs
that is
marked as a suggestion.
* Expanded the description in Commands Search for setting a temporary
PlaceMarker (CTRL+WINDOWS+K) to describe how this keystroke is used as
part
of selecting
text.
* Added the Copy Speech History to Clipboard keystroke
(INSERT+SPACEBAR,
CTRL+H) to Commands Search.
* Updated the description in Commands Search for the Read Address Bar
keystroke (INSERT+A) so it can be found by searching for either "URL"
or
"address."
* If the Navigation Quick Key Manager is launched from an Outlook
message,
the Navigation Quick Key N for moving through messages in a thread, is
now
listed
so you can reassign it if necessary. The Navigation Quick Key Manager
is
located in the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2).
* Resolved an issue where Navigation Quick Keys in Outlook messages
would
sometimes unexpectedly stop working until you moved focus away then
back to
the
message.
* When selecting text in Outlook messages for copying and pasting,
addressed
an issue where selection was not always working as expected, causing
the
wrong
text to be selected. This occurred most often in messages containing
lists.
* Updated the INSERT+H help for Excel to list all of the latest JAWS
hot
keys.
* Added a new dictionary rule for "FYI" so JAWS no longer says the
more
verbose "for your information" when encountering this acronym.
list end












--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com






moderated Re: [External] : Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

 

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 08:33 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
Currently, Clipboard history supports text, HTML, and images less than 4 MB in size.
-
Which is pretty much what clipboard outside of File Explorer has always supported.

Cutting and pasting files between folders using File Explorer has always used a "purpose dedicated" clipboard mechanism, not the general clipboard.  And Clipboard History applies to the general clipboard.

You've always had to multi-select whatever group of files you want, and have all of them selected, before copying/cutting them to the File Explorer clipboard for pasting elsewhere.  You couldn't, and still can't, move from folder to folder, adding additional files to those already on the clipboard, for pasting in another folder (or if you can I have never seen it done, so enlighten me if someone has).

You can, within some limit I've never come close to reaching, do a select all in a file containing quite a bit of text and copy or cut it all to clipboard.  But you have to have the file open in the program that handles it, and the copy or cut happens in there, not in File Explorer to the file itself.
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

John Covici
 

In Chrome, if you hit shift-enter on a link it should open in a new
window, if you close that window, maybe you'd be back in the correct
position -- not tested by me.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 08:35:44 -0400,
Chris Hill wrote:

Yet another way that using a mail program is better than the
web.  I use my gmail in Thunderbird all the time.



On 5/22/2021 05:33, soner wrote:
Hello, unlike on IE, the cursor's long lasting issue of losing its
previous location on Gmail has still been continuing for years, and
nobody cares it seems.
To reproduce the issue, in Gmail basic settings layout on Chrome,
navigate down below some among your mails, click one, then once the
message is opened, click back to inbox, normally, the expected
behavior should be the cursor positioning exactly on the last mail
check box of what you opened, but on Chrome it is not. It moves you
all the way up to the first mail, and honestly to jump on top of
messages in each return to inbox is a great tedium.

Kind regards

On 5/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
It works fine here


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via
groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

The email thread keyboard commands don't work for me. I'm assuming it's
because I've customised all my email groups into threads via View Settings
rather than the standard thread button. Is it working for othrs?

John


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 19 May 2021 19:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

Seems like a fairly significant update.
Hopefully the email thread thing gets more attention.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:48 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Subject: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

Hi All,

Below is the direct download link for the May J2021 build, 2105.53, update +
what's new in this release.

32 & 64 Bit Download Link:

https://jaws2021.vfo.digital/2021.2105.53.400/2F7F244C-52EA-42F7-ABE4-1F6762CE1BDE/J2021.2105.53.400-any.exe

What's New:

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2105.53 (May 2021)

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2021 release
and the May 2021 update.

Easier Navigation Through Email Threads in Outlook

It is quite common, particularly in a work or school environment, for email
messages to include several people, resulting in lengthy message threads as
participants reply and add to the conversation. When opening an email that
contains a thread of messages, including replies or forwards, it can be
time
consuming to read through the thread with JAWS or Fusion using the ARROW
keys to locate particular responses as you need to move through all of the
header
information for each message.

To make this easier, you can now use the N or SHIFT+N Navigation Quick Keys
to quickly move to and place focus at the beginning of the next or previous
message in an open email thread, skipping over all of the header
information. As you navigate with these commands, JAWS and Fusion reads who
the message
is from, the date it was sent, and the first line. If you determine this is
not the message in the thread you were looking for, continue using N or
SHIFT+N
until you reach the message you want. While reading a particular message in
the thread, pressing ALT+1 or ALT+2 now announces the sender or date of
the
message at your current location. To review sender and date info for the
entire email, press CTRL+HOME to move back to the top before pressing ALT+1
or
ALT+2.

For users of the Focus braille display, you can set a NAV rocker to move
through messages in an open email thread. While focused in an email, press
the
NAV Mode button above the NAV rocker you want to set to cycle through the
available navigation modes until "Message" is selected. If you are using an
older
Focus display that includes Wiz Wheels, press down on the wheel to select
the mode. If focus moves away from the message, the navigation mode
defaults
back to Line.

Note: Currently, this feature is only available while reading an email and
not when editing a message. Additionally, while currently limited to
messages
containing replies and forwards from Outlook, we will continue to improve
this feature over time to support emails from other sources like Gmail and
iOS.

Voice Assistant Improvements

In the initial 2021 release, we introduced Voice Assistant, a new way to
interact with JAWS in Windows 10. Voice Assistant offers a convenient option
for
quickly performing various JAWS commands using natural speech instead of
memorizing specific keystrokes. Since its introduction, we have received
numerous
requests from customers wanting to be able to access more JAWS features by
voice in order to increase productivity.

Some JAWS features you can now access by using voice commands include:

list of 16 items
* Selecting Text, especially blocks of text, has never been easier. Just
locate the spot where you wish to begin selecting and say "Hey Sharky, Start
Selection."
Then navigate to the location where selection should end and say "Hey
Sharky, Finish Selection." You did it! At that point, all text between the
two locations
will be highlighted. You can confirm using the SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Command to verify you got it all. This works on Web Pages, in Documents, and
even
in Emails.
* Working with the JAWS speech history without remembering any keystrokes is
now even easier. Try any of the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Show Speech History"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Speech History to Clipboard"
* "Hey Sharky, Clear Speech History"
list end nesting level 1
* Working with Technical Support just got easier. Have you ever been asked
to get the version information for your software or operating system? Try
this
out:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Version Info"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Version Info to Clipboard"
list end nesting level 1
* You can now ask JAWS to help virtualize a control or window, or even copy
them directly to the Clipboard. For example, go to the JAWS About dialog
box,
and try the following:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Control"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Control"
list end nesting level 1
* When navigating Word documents and Outlook messages, you can use Voice
Assistant to work with various elements like headings, tables, and graphics.
Try
the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, List Headings"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Table"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Graphic"
list end nesting level 1
* When editing a Word document or Outlook message, you can use Voice
Assistant to move to Spelling or Grammatical errors. For Example, try:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Next Spelling Error"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Grammatical Error"
list end nesting level 1
* While reading a message in Outlook containing several replies or forwards,
you can now say "Hey Sharky, Next Message" or "Previous Message." You will
skip the headings and get right to the various replies within that email.
* When focused on math content in Word that you wish to navigate, you can
now say "Hey Sharky, Math Viewer." This opens the JAWS Math Viewer where
you
can explore the current equation.
* To edit a math equation using the new Braille Math Editor, move to the
equation and say "Hey Sharky, Math Editor."
* Toggle the Braille or Text Viewers on or off by saying "Hey Sharky,
Braille Viewer" or "Text Viewer."
* Start or stop a JAWS Tandem session by saying "Hey Sharky, Tandem."
* Open the Select a Voice Profile dialog box by saying "Hey Sharky, Voice
Profile."
* To access something in the System Tray, try saying "Hey Sharky, System
Tray."
* Speak the most recent Windows notification by saying "Hey Sharky,
Notification."
* If you have a laptop and want to know the charge level of its battery,
just say "Hey Sharky, Battery."
* On a web page, open the Custom Label dialog box for labeling an element by
saying "Hey Sharky, Custom Label."
list end

Braille Math Editor

JAWS and Fusion currently supports reading Math equations on web pages that
are displayed using MathML, or math equations in Microsoft Word documents
inserted
using the native Word math format. You can navigate the individual elements
of an equation using the Math Viewer, accessed by pressing ENTER from a web
page or INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS from a Word document when focused
on the equation. If JAWS braille translation is set to Unified English
Braille
or United States English Grade 1 or Grade 2 output, math expressions are
also shown on a braille display using Nemeth Braille format.

The new Braille Math Editor in JAWS now enables braille users in Windows 10
to input their own equations, and in Office 365, edit existing equations in
Word documents. To open the Math Editor, press the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+EQUALS (plus sign). Focus braille display
users can
also press DOTS 3-4-6-7 CHORD.

When the Math Editor opens, focus is placed into an edit field where you can
immediately begin typing the equation in Nemeth braille from your braille
display's keyboard. As you type, a preview pane below the edit field
visually displays the equation so a sighted teacher or parent can review it.
Once
you are finished inputting the math equation, press ENTER or choose the
Accept button to close the Math Editor. If you are in Word, the equation you
entered
is automatically inserted into the document at your current location. The
equation is also copied to the Clipboard so you can paste it in other
applications.

Opening the Math Editor while focused on a math equation in a Word document
displays the existing equation in Nemeth Braille, allowing you to edit or
replace
it. After making any changes and pressing ENTER to close the editor, the
current equation in the document is replaced by the new or modified
equation.

Note: After inserting or modifying an equation in Word from the Math Editor,
the blinking cursor (dots 7 and 8) on the braille display always remains at
the beginning of the math content, even as you move by character with the
LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. If you need to insert another line of math
content,
first press the END key to move to the end of the current math content and
then press ENTER.

While the Math Editor is opened, you have the following additional options:

list of 3 items
* Press CTRL+N to start a new equation.
* Press CTRL+P to preview the current equation in the Math Viewer. When
finished, press ESC to return to the Math Editor.
* Press ALT+E to open the edit menu where you can copy your Nemeth Braille
to the Clipboard using a specific format. MathML is the default format when
copying, however, depending on the application where you intend to paste the
equation, you can also choose to copy your Nemeth Braille to LaTeX or
Braille
ASCII. After choosing a format to copy to, paste the equation into the
specific application before pressing ENTER or selecting Accept to close the
Math
Editor as this always copies as MathML and will erase the current clipboard
contents.
list end

To learn more about Nemeth Braille, check out this
Nemeth Tutorial
which teaches this braille code beginning with the very basics up through
advanced mathematics.

Other Changes
list of 12 items
* Resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the download status of
files in Edge Chromium.
* Addressed an issue where the text of a link in a GMail message was not
being read if it spanned multiple lines.
* When selecting a link or button on a web page that opens a modal dialog
such as a calendar, resolved an issue where JAWS was reading the entire
contents
of the dialog all at once as soon as it gained focus.
* JAWS now indicates when you move in and out of text in Google Docs that is
marked as a suggestion.
* Expanded the description in Commands Search for setting a temporary
PlaceMarker (CTRL+WINDOWS+K) to describe how this keystroke is used as part
of selecting
text.
* Added the Copy Speech History to Clipboard keystroke (INSERT+SPACEBAR,
CTRL+H) to Commands Search.
* Updated the description in Commands Search for the Read Address Bar
keystroke (INSERT+A) so it can be found by searching for either "URL" or
"address."
* If the Navigation Quick Key Manager is launched from an Outlook message,
the Navigation Quick Key N for moving through messages in a thread, is now
listed
so you can reassign it if necessary. The Navigation Quick Key Manager is
located in the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2).
* Resolved an issue where Navigation Quick Keys in Outlook messages would
sometimes unexpectedly stop working until you moved focus away then back to
the
message.
* When selecting text in Outlook messages for copying and pasting, addressed
an issue where selection was not always working as expected, causing the
wrong
text to be selected. This occurred most often in messages containing lists.
* Updated the INSERT+H help for Excel to list all of the latest JAWS hot
keys.
* Added a new dictionary rule for "FYI" so JAWS no longer says the more
verbose "for your information" when encountering this acronym.
list end












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moderated Re: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

Dan Longmore
 

Yeti makes a nice USB microphone. Also has headphone jack so you can hear audio. Or you can leave audio through speakers and just use the mic. However, in this setup mic will pick up the speakers.
I use the computer speakers and the Yeti mic and when I need to I plug headphones into the headphone jack on bottom of mic.
Logitech also makes nice USB mic / headsets.
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

Hello,
I am considering a USB microphone for use in Zoom meetings in lieu of a headset with microphone and I was wondering if JAWS speech would come in on the microphone if I were to use this set up? The JAWS speech coming through is something that I would like to alleviate.
This was occurring with the laptop and built-in microphone.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

Chris Hill
 

Yet another way that using a mail program is better than the web.  I use my gmail in Thunderbird all the time.

On 5/22/2021 05:33, soner wrote:
Hello, unlike on IE, the cursor's long lasting issue of losing its
previous location on Gmail has still been continuing for years, and
nobody cares it seems.
To reproduce the issue, in Gmail basic settings layout on Chrome,
navigate down below some among your mails, click one, then once the
message is opened, click back to inbox, normally, the expected
behavior should be the cursor positioning exactly on the last mail
check box of what you opened, but on Chrome it is not. It moves you
all the way up to the first mail, and honestly to jump on top of
messages in each return to inbox is a great tedium.

Kind regards

On 5/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
It works fine here


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via
groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

The email thread keyboard commands don't work for me. I'm assuming it's
because I've customised all my email groups into threads via View Settings
rather than the standard thread button. Is it working for othrs?

John


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 19 May 2021 19:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

Seems like a fairly significant update.
Hopefully the email thread thing gets more attention.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:48 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Subject: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

Hi All,

Below is the direct download link for the May J2021 build, 2105.53, update +
what's new in this release.

32 & 64 Bit Download Link:

https://jaws2021.vfo.digital/2021.2105.53.400/2F7F244C-52EA-42F7-ABE4-1F6762CE1BDE/J2021.2105.53.400-any.exe

What's New:

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2105.53 (May 2021)

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2021 release
and the May 2021 update.

Easier Navigation Through Email Threads in Outlook

It is quite common, particularly in a work or school environment, for email
messages to include several people, resulting in lengthy message threads as
participants reply and add to the conversation. When opening an email that
contains a thread of messages, including replies or forwards, it can be
time
consuming to read through the thread with JAWS or Fusion using the ARROW
keys to locate particular responses as you need to move through all of the
header
information for each message.

To make this easier, you can now use the N or SHIFT+N Navigation Quick Keys
to quickly move to and place focus at the beginning of the next or previous
message in an open email thread, skipping over all of the header
information. As you navigate with these commands, JAWS and Fusion reads who
the message
is from, the date it was sent, and the first line. If you determine this is
not the message in the thread you were looking for, continue using N or
SHIFT+N
until you reach the message you want. While reading a particular message in
the thread, pressing ALT+1 or ALT+2 now announces the sender or date of
the
message at your current location. To review sender and date info for the
entire email, press CTRL+HOME to move back to the top before pressing ALT+1
or
ALT+2.

For users of the Focus braille display, you can set a NAV rocker to move
through messages in an open email thread. While focused in an email, press
the
NAV Mode button above the NAV rocker you want to set to cycle through the
available navigation modes until "Message" is selected. If you are using an
older
Focus display that includes Wiz Wheels, press down on the wheel to select
the mode. If focus moves away from the message, the navigation mode
defaults
back to Line.

Note: Currently, this feature is only available while reading an email and
not when editing a message. Additionally, while currently limited to
messages
containing replies and forwards from Outlook, we will continue to improve
this feature over time to support emails from other sources like Gmail and
iOS.

Voice Assistant Improvements

In the initial 2021 release, we introduced Voice Assistant, a new way to
interact with JAWS in Windows 10. Voice Assistant offers a convenient option
for
quickly performing various JAWS commands using natural speech instead of
memorizing specific keystrokes. Since its introduction, we have received
numerous
requests from customers wanting to be able to access more JAWS features by
voice in order to increase productivity.

Some JAWS features you can now access by using voice commands include:

list of 16 items
* Selecting Text, especially blocks of text, has never been easier. Just
locate the spot where you wish to begin selecting and say "Hey Sharky, Start
Selection."
Then navigate to the location where selection should end and say "Hey
Sharky, Finish Selection." You did it! At that point, all text between the
two locations
will be highlighted. You can confirm using the SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Command to verify you got it all. This works on Web Pages, in Documents, and
even
in Emails.
* Working with the JAWS speech history without remembering any keystrokes is
now even easier. Try any of the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Show Speech History"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Speech History to Clipboard"
* "Hey Sharky, Clear Speech History"
list end nesting level 1
* Working with Technical Support just got easier. Have you ever been asked
to get the version information for your software or operating system? Try
this
out:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Version Info"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Version Info to Clipboard"
list end nesting level 1
* You can now ask JAWS to help virtualize a control or window, or even copy
them directly to the Clipboard. For example, go to the JAWS About dialog
box,
and try the following:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Control"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Control"
list end nesting level 1
* When navigating Word documents and Outlook messages, you can use Voice
Assistant to work with various elements like headings, tables, and graphics.
Try
the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, List Headings"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Table"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Graphic"
list end nesting level 1
* When editing a Word document or Outlook message, you can use Voice
Assistant to move to Spelling or Grammatical errors. For Example, try:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Next Spelling Error"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Grammatical Error"
list end nesting level 1
* While reading a message in Outlook containing several replies or forwards,
you can now say "Hey Sharky, Next Message" or "Previous Message." You will
skip the headings and get right to the various replies within that email.
* When focused on math content in Word that you wish to navigate, you can
now say "Hey Sharky, Math Viewer." This opens the JAWS Math Viewer where
you
can explore the current equation.
* To edit a math equation using the new Braille Math Editor, move to the
equation and say "Hey Sharky, Math Editor."
* Toggle the Braille or Text Viewers on or off by saying "Hey Sharky,
Braille Viewer" or "Text Viewer."
* Start or stop a JAWS Tandem session by saying "Hey Sharky, Tandem."
* Open the Select a Voice Profile dialog box by saying "Hey Sharky, Voice
Profile."
* To access something in the System Tray, try saying "Hey Sharky, System
Tray."
* Speak the most recent Windows notification by saying "Hey Sharky,
Notification."
* If you have a laptop and want to know the charge level of its battery,
just say "Hey Sharky, Battery."
* On a web page, open the Custom Label dialog box for labeling an element by
saying "Hey Sharky, Custom Label."
list end

Braille Math Editor

JAWS and Fusion currently supports reading Math equations on web pages that
are displayed using MathML, or math equations in Microsoft Word documents
inserted
using the native Word math format. You can navigate the individual elements
of an equation using the Math Viewer, accessed by pressing ENTER from a web
page or INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS from a Word document when focused
on the equation. If JAWS braille translation is set to Unified English
Braille
or United States English Grade 1 or Grade 2 output, math expressions are
also shown on a braille display using Nemeth Braille format.

The new Braille Math Editor in JAWS now enables braille users in Windows 10
to input their own equations, and in Office 365, edit existing equations in
Word documents. To open the Math Editor, press the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+EQUALS (plus sign). Focus braille display
users can
also press DOTS 3-4-6-7 CHORD.

When the Math Editor opens, focus is placed into an edit field where you can
immediately begin typing the equation in Nemeth braille from your braille
display's keyboard. As you type, a preview pane below the edit field
visually displays the equation so a sighted teacher or parent can review it.
Once
you are finished inputting the math equation, press ENTER or choose the
Accept button to close the Math Editor. If you are in Word, the equation you
entered
is automatically inserted into the document at your current location. The
equation is also copied to the Clipboard so you can paste it in other
applications.

Opening the Math Editor while focused on a math equation in a Word document
displays the existing equation in Nemeth Braille, allowing you to edit or
replace
it. After making any changes and pressing ENTER to close the editor, the
current equation in the document is replaced by the new or modified
equation.

Note: After inserting or modifying an equation in Word from the Math Editor,
the blinking cursor (dots 7 and 8) on the braille display always remains at
the beginning of the math content, even as you move by character with the
LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. If you need to insert another line of math
content,
first press the END key to move to the end of the current math content and
then press ENTER.

While the Math Editor is opened, you have the following additional options:

list of 3 items
* Press CTRL+N to start a new equation.
* Press CTRL+P to preview the current equation in the Math Viewer. When
finished, press ESC to return to the Math Editor.
* Press ALT+E to open the edit menu where you can copy your Nemeth Braille
to the Clipboard using a specific format. MathML is the default format when
copying, however, depending on the application where you intend to paste the
equation, you can also choose to copy your Nemeth Braille to LaTeX or
Braille
ASCII. After choosing a format to copy to, paste the equation into the
specific application before pressing ENTER or selecting Accept to close the
Math
Editor as this always copies as MathML and will erase the current clipboard
contents.
list end

To learn more about Nemeth Braille, check out this
Nemeth Tutorial
which teaches this braille code beginning with the very basics up through
advanced mathematics.

Other Changes
list of 12 items
* Resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the download status of
files in Edge Chromium.
* Addressed an issue where the text of a link in a GMail message was not
being read if it spanned multiple lines.
* When selecting a link or button on a web page that opens a modal dialog
such as a calendar, resolved an issue where JAWS was reading the entire
contents
of the dialog all at once as soon as it gained focus.
* JAWS now indicates when you move in and out of text in Google Docs that is
marked as a suggestion.
* Expanded the description in Commands Search for setting a temporary
PlaceMarker (CTRL+WINDOWS+K) to describe how this keystroke is used as part
of selecting
text.
* Added the Copy Speech History to Clipboard keystroke (INSERT+SPACEBAR,
CTRL+H) to Commands Search.
* Updated the description in Commands Search for the Read Address Bar
keystroke (INSERT+A) so it can be found by searching for either "URL" or
"address."
* If the Navigation Quick Key Manager is launched from an Outlook message,
the Navigation Quick Key N for moving through messages in a thread, is now
listed
so you can reassign it if necessary. The Navigation Quick Key Manager is
located in the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2).
* Resolved an issue where Navigation Quick Keys in Outlook messages would
sometimes unexpectedly stop working until you moved focus away then back to
the
message.
* When selecting text in Outlook messages for copying and pasting, addressed
an issue where selection was not always working as expected, causing the
wrong
text to be selected. This occurred most often in messages containing lists.
* Updated the INSERT+H help for Excel to list all of the latest JAWS hot
keys.
* Added a new dictionary rule for "FYI" so JAWS no longer says the more
verbose "for your information" when encountering this acronym.
list end









moderated Re: [External] : Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Chris Hill
 

No, it only supports certain things.  The thing I posted the other day says


Currently, Clipboard history supports text, HTML, and images less than 4 MB in size.


CH

On 5/22/2021 05:05, John Covici wrote:
My history says its on, but control-c seems to erase whats on the
clipboard. But one thing, what about files on the clipboard, does
this same thing apply i.e. is control-c supposed to add a file to the
clipboard?

On Fri, 21 May 2021 14:46:24 -0400,
Don Mauck wrote:
Just keep doing a copy of different items and if you press Window+V you'll see all the different items. You have to make sure that your system clipboard history is turned on. Then you can delete, copy or whatever you wish.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

OK, I have a question about this clipboard business -- I can hit windows key+v, but after that, the only keys I seem to be able to use are the arrow keys and there is usually only one entry. So, the question is -- and I have googled to several different articles -- how do you add more items to the clipboard and how do you delete an item?


On Fri, 21 May 2021 10:53:09 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:
[1 <text/plain; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)>] I am running the May
update to Jaws 2021 and the Windows Clipboard is working the way it always had for me.
Jaws is reading the entries after I hit Windows+v and I can arrow to the one I want to paste and hit enter, and it is pasted.

I don't know if you do your updates this way, but I always download the package and install, rather than going through the update wizard because I think the wizard's wand is damaged.




Richard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Just tried it. Didn't work.
Thanks anyway.

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Chris
Hill
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 5:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?


This is a feature i just turned on. I had no luck getting jaws to read it (current version recently updated). Then I reloaded jaws, problem solved. I suspect that jaws loading on startup may be causing the problem, just unload and reload it.




On 5/20/2021 18:58, Cristóbal wrote:
Or... I could ask the list community if there's perhaps an alternative clipboard utility that's accessible with Jaws I could use in the meantime without having to jump through all those impractical hoops.
I've tried Ditto and ClipAngel so far. I already mentioned Ditto previously. ClipAngel seems like a nifty little tool, but while the menus are accessible, I can't seem to find any of the copied text entries. So it's basically a no go.

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 4:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Well you could unload your licensed copy, and load the demo when need be and unload that and go back to the licensed copy.
Of course the time limit keeps going so you'd have to reboot after 40 minutes.
But it's better than nothing.

----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal<mailto:cristobalmuli@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Not practical in the least.
While I do use NVDA for the odd task her and there, Jaws is my primary screen reader and how I run my business. Outlook, Excel, Word etc. Hence my asking about Jaws to begin with...
Running JFW in demo mode throughout the day would be terribly disruptive as well.
This is why I specifically asked about an alternative application while this hopefully gets fixed.

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 4:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Maybe download the Jaws 2020 and if you cannot license it, run it as a demo.
Or you could install NVDA.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal<mailto:cristobalmuli@gmail.com>
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 6:40 PM
Subject: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Hello list,
So it seems like the May 2021 Jaws update broke the Windows clipboard. Broke in the sense that while the clipboard itself still works, Jaws isn't speaking the various copied entries when arrowing around which is causing me all sorts of fits.
This actually happened a couple of months ago and at that time, I simply rolled back to the prior version of Jaws. Vispero did put out a new update which fixed the problem and that's what I attempted to do this time, but even after rolling back to the April 2021 Jaws where the clipboard worked before installing the May 2021 update, now it seems that not even the April Jaws update is working right with the clipboard.
So anyway, I don't have time for Vispero to investigate the issue and hopefully do something to fix this bug. In the meantime, I need to access this particular feature for my work. Is there an alternative Windows 10 clipboard utility that I can use? I tried downloading Ditto, but as it's an extension to the Windows 10 clipboard itself, no luck there.
Thanks,
Cristóbal







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moderated Re: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

John Covici
 

Once you plug in the mic, if it has a headphone jack, all sounds will
come through that jack. So, now you have to change your sound output
device back to what you want.

I hope this is what you were looking for.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:18:33 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>]
If jaws is playing through your speakers, and the microphone is picking up the speakers, Jaws will come through the microphone.
I have not heard of any way to avoid Jaws being heard in a Zoom meeting unless you are wearing headphones.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On May 21, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I am considering a USB microphone for use in Zoom meetings in lieu of
a headset with microphone and I was wondering if JAWS speech would
come in on the microphone if I were to use this set up? The JAWS
speech coming through is something that I would like to alleviate.
This was occurring with the laptop and built-in microphone.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com










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covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

soner
 

Hello, unlike on IE, the cursor's long lasting issue of losing its
previous location on Gmail has still been continuing for years, and
nobody cares it seems.
To reproduce the issue, in Gmail basic settings layout on Chrome,
navigate down below some among your mails, click one, then once the
message is opened, click back to inbox, normally, the expected
behavior should be the cursor positioning exactly on the last mail
check box of what you opened, but on Chrome it is not. It moves you
all the way up to the first mail, and honestly to jump on top of
messages in each return to inbox is a great tedium.

Kind regards

On 5/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
It works fine here


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via
groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

The email thread keyboard commands don't work for me. I'm assuming it's
because I've customised all my email groups into threads via View Settings
rather than the standard thread button. Is it working for othrs?

John


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 19 May 2021 19:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

Seems like a fairly significant update.
Hopefully the email thread thing gets more attention.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:48 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Subject: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's
New

Hi All,

Below is the direct download link for the May J2021 build, 2105.53, update +
what's new in this release.

32 & 64 Bit Download Link:

https://jaws2021.vfo.digital/2021.2105.53.400/2F7F244C-52EA-42F7-ABE4-1F6762CE1BDE/J2021.2105.53.400-any.exe

What's New:

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2105.53 (May 2021)

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2021 release
and the May 2021 update.

Easier Navigation Through Email Threads in Outlook

It is quite common, particularly in a work or school environment, for email
messages to include several people, resulting in lengthy message threads as
participants reply and add to the conversation. When opening an email that
contains a thread of messages, including replies or forwards, it can be
time
consuming to read through the thread with JAWS or Fusion using the ARROW
keys to locate particular responses as you need to move through all of the
header
information for each message.

To make this easier, you can now use the N or SHIFT+N Navigation Quick Keys
to quickly move to and place focus at the beginning of the next or previous
message in an open email thread, skipping over all of the header
information. As you navigate with these commands, JAWS and Fusion reads who
the message
is from, the date it was sent, and the first line. If you determine this is
not the message in the thread you were looking for, continue using N or
SHIFT+N
until you reach the message you want. While reading a particular message in
the thread, pressing ALT+1 or ALT+2 now announces the sender or date of
the
message at your current location. To review sender and date info for the
entire email, press CTRL+HOME to move back to the top before pressing ALT+1
or
ALT+2.

For users of the Focus braille display, you can set a NAV rocker to move
through messages in an open email thread. While focused in an email, press
the
NAV Mode button above the NAV rocker you want to set to cycle through the
available navigation modes until "Message" is selected. If you are using an
older
Focus display that includes Wiz Wheels, press down on the wheel to select
the mode. If focus moves away from the message, the navigation mode
defaults
back to Line.

Note: Currently, this feature is only available while reading an email and
not when editing a message. Additionally, while currently limited to
messages
containing replies and forwards from Outlook, we will continue to improve
this feature over time to support emails from other sources like Gmail and
iOS.

Voice Assistant Improvements

In the initial 2021 release, we introduced Voice Assistant, a new way to
interact with JAWS in Windows 10. Voice Assistant offers a convenient option
for
quickly performing various JAWS commands using natural speech instead of
memorizing specific keystrokes. Since its introduction, we have received
numerous
requests from customers wanting to be able to access more JAWS features by
voice in order to increase productivity.

Some JAWS features you can now access by using voice commands include:

list of 16 items
* Selecting Text, especially blocks of text, has never been easier. Just
locate the spot where you wish to begin selecting and say "Hey Sharky, Start
Selection."
Then navigate to the location where selection should end and say "Hey
Sharky, Finish Selection." You did it! At that point, all text between the
two locations
will be highlighted. You can confirm using the SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Command to verify you got it all. This works on Web Pages, in Documents, and
even
in Emails.
* Working with the JAWS speech history without remembering any keystrokes is
now even easier. Try any of the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Show Speech History"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Speech History to Clipboard"
* "Hey Sharky, Clear Speech History"
list end nesting level 1
* Working with Technical Support just got easier. Have you ever been asked
to get the version information for your software or operating system? Try
this
out:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Version Info"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Version Info to Clipboard"
list end nesting level 1
* You can now ask JAWS to help virtualize a control or window, or even copy
them directly to the Clipboard. For example, go to the JAWS About dialog
box,
and try the following:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Window"
* "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Control"
* "Hey Sharky, Copy Control"
list end nesting level 1
* When navigating Word documents and Outlook messages, you can use Voice
Assistant to work with various elements like headings, tables, and graphics.
Try
the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, List Headings"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Table"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Graphic"
list end nesting level 1
* When editing a Word document or Outlook message, you can use Voice
Assistant to move to Spelling or Grammatical errors. For Example, try:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
* "Hey Sharky, Next Spelling Error"
* "Hey Sharky, Next Grammatical Error"
list end nesting level 1
* While reading a message in Outlook containing several replies or forwards,
you can now say "Hey Sharky, Next Message" or "Previous Message." You will
skip the headings and get right to the various replies within that email.
* When focused on math content in Word that you wish to navigate, you can
now say "Hey Sharky, Math Viewer." This opens the JAWS Math Viewer where
you
can explore the current equation.
* To edit a math equation using the new Braille Math Editor, move to the
equation and say "Hey Sharky, Math Editor."
* Toggle the Braille or Text Viewers on or off by saying "Hey Sharky,
Braille Viewer" or "Text Viewer."
* Start or stop a JAWS Tandem session by saying "Hey Sharky, Tandem."
* Open the Select a Voice Profile dialog box by saying "Hey Sharky, Voice
Profile."
* To access something in the System Tray, try saying "Hey Sharky, System
Tray."
* Speak the most recent Windows notification by saying "Hey Sharky,
Notification."
* If you have a laptop and want to know the charge level of its battery,
just say "Hey Sharky, Battery."
* On a web page, open the Custom Label dialog box for labeling an element by
saying "Hey Sharky, Custom Label."
list end

Braille Math Editor

JAWS and Fusion currently supports reading Math equations on web pages that
are displayed using MathML, or math equations in Microsoft Word documents
inserted
using the native Word math format. You can navigate the individual elements
of an equation using the Math Viewer, accessed by pressing ENTER from a web
page or INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS from a Word document when focused
on the equation. If JAWS braille translation is set to Unified English
Braille
or United States English Grade 1 or Grade 2 output, math expressions are
also shown on a braille display using Nemeth Braille format.

The new Braille Math Editor in JAWS now enables braille users in Windows 10
to input their own equations, and in Office 365, edit existing equations in
Word documents. To open the Math Editor, press the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+EQUALS (plus sign). Focus braille display
users can
also press DOTS 3-4-6-7 CHORD.

When the Math Editor opens, focus is placed into an edit field where you can
immediately begin typing the equation in Nemeth braille from your braille
display's keyboard. As you type, a preview pane below the edit field
visually displays the equation so a sighted teacher or parent can review it.
Once
you are finished inputting the math equation, press ENTER or choose the
Accept button to close the Math Editor. If you are in Word, the equation you
entered
is automatically inserted into the document at your current location. The
equation is also copied to the Clipboard so you can paste it in other
applications.

Opening the Math Editor while focused on a math equation in a Word document
displays the existing equation in Nemeth Braille, allowing you to edit or
replace
it. After making any changes and pressing ENTER to close the editor, the
current equation in the document is replaced by the new or modified
equation.

Note: After inserting or modifying an equation in Word from the Math Editor,
the blinking cursor (dots 7 and 8) on the braille display always remains at
the beginning of the math content, even as you move by character with the
LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. If you need to insert another line of math
content,
first press the END key to move to the end of the current math content and
then press ENTER.

While the Math Editor is opened, you have the following additional options:

list of 3 items
* Press CTRL+N to start a new equation.
* Press CTRL+P to preview the current equation in the Math Viewer. When
finished, press ESC to return to the Math Editor.
* Press ALT+E to open the edit menu where you can copy your Nemeth Braille
to the Clipboard using a specific format. MathML is the default format when
copying, however, depending on the application where you intend to paste the
equation, you can also choose to copy your Nemeth Braille to LaTeX or
Braille
ASCII. After choosing a format to copy to, paste the equation into the
specific application before pressing ENTER or selecting Accept to close the
Math
Editor as this always copies as MathML and will erase the current clipboard
contents.
list end

To learn more about Nemeth Braille, check out this
Nemeth Tutorial
which teaches this braille code beginning with the very basics up through
advanced mathematics.

Other Changes
list of 12 items
* Resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the download status of
files in Edge Chromium.
* Addressed an issue where the text of a link in a GMail message was not
being read if it spanned multiple lines.
* When selecting a link or button on a web page that opens a modal dialog
such as a calendar, resolved an issue where JAWS was reading the entire
contents
of the dialog all at once as soon as it gained focus.
* JAWS now indicates when you move in and out of text in Google Docs that is
marked as a suggestion.
* Expanded the description in Commands Search for setting a temporary
PlaceMarker (CTRL+WINDOWS+K) to describe how this keystroke is used as part
of selecting
text.
* Added the Copy Speech History to Clipboard keystroke (INSERT+SPACEBAR,
CTRL+H) to Commands Search.
* Updated the description in Commands Search for the Read Address Bar
keystroke (INSERT+A) so it can be found by searching for either "URL" or
"address."
* If the Navigation Quick Key Manager is launched from an Outlook message,
the Navigation Quick Key N for moving through messages in a thread, is now
listed
so you can reassign it if necessary. The Navigation Quick Key Manager is
located in the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2).
* Resolved an issue where Navigation Quick Keys in Outlook messages would
sometimes unexpectedly stop working until you moved focus away then back to
the
message.
* When selecting text in Outlook messages for copying and pasting, addressed
an issue where selection was not always working as expected, causing the
wrong
text to be selected. This occurred most often in messages containing lists.
* Updated the INSERT+H help for Excel to list all of the latest JAWS hot
keys.
* Added a new dictionary rule for "FYI" so JAWS no longer says the more
verbose "for your information" when encountering this acronym.
list end








moderated Re: [External] : Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

John Covici
 

My history says its on, but control-c seems to erase whats on the
clipboard. But one thing, what about files on the clipboard, does
this same thing apply i.e. is control-c supposed to add a file to the
clipboard?

On Fri, 21 May 2021 14:46:24 -0400,
Don Mauck wrote:

Just keep doing a copy of different items and if you press Window+V you'll see all the different items. You have to make sure that your system clipboard history is turned on. Then you can delete, copy or whatever you wish.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

OK, I have a question about this clipboard business -- I can hit windows key+v, but after that, the only keys I seem to be able to use are the arrow keys and there is usually only one entry. So, the question is -- and I have googled to several different articles -- how do you add more items to the clipboard and how do you delete an item?


On Fri, 21 May 2021 10:53:09 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

[1 <text/plain; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)>] I am running the May
update to Jaws 2021 and the Windows Clipboard is working the way it always had for me.
Jaws is reading the entries after I hit Windows+v and I can arrow to the one I want to paste and hit enter, and it is pasted.

I don't know if you do your updates this way, but I always download the package and install, rather than going through the update wizard because I think the wizard's wand is damaged.




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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Just tried it. Didn't work.
Thanks anyway.

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Chris
Hill
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 5:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?


This is a feature i just turned on. I had no luck getting jaws to read it (current version recently updated). Then I reloaded jaws, problem solved. I suspect that jaws loading on startup may be causing the problem, just unload and reload it.




On 5/20/2021 18:58, Cristóbal wrote:
Or... I could ask the list community if there's perhaps an alternative clipboard utility that's accessible with Jaws I could use in the meantime without having to jump through all those impractical hoops.
I've tried Ditto and ClipAngel so far. I already mentioned Ditto previously. ClipAngel seems like a nifty little tool, but while the menus are accessible, I can't seem to find any of the copied text entries. So it's basically a no go.

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 4:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Well you could unload your licensed copy, and load the demo when need be and unload that and go back to the licensed copy.
Of course the time limit keeps going so you'd have to reboot after 40 minutes.
But it's better than nothing.

----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal<mailto:cristobalmuli@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Not practical in the least.
While I do use NVDA for the odd task her and there, Jaws is my primary screen reader and how I run my business. Outlook, Excel, Word etc. Hence my asking about Jaws to begin with...
Running JFW in demo mode throughout the day would be terribly disruptive as well.
This is why I specifically asked about an alternative application while this hopefully gets fixed.

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 4:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Maybe download the Jaws 2020 and if you cannot license it, run it as a demo.
Or you could install NVDA.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal<mailto:cristobalmuli@gmail.com>
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 6:40 PM
Subject: Jaws accessible Windows 10 clipboard alternative?

Hello list,
So it seems like the May 2021 Jaws update broke the Windows clipboard. Broke in the sense that while the clipboard itself still works, Jaws isn't speaking the various copied entries when arrowing around which is causing me all sorts of fits.
This actually happened a couple of months ago and at that time, I simply rolled back to the prior version of Jaws. Vispero did put out a new update which fixed the problem and that's what I attempted to do this time, but even after rolling back to the April 2021 Jaws where the clipboard worked before installing the May 2021 update, now it seems that not even the April Jaws update is working right with the clipboard.
So anyway, I don't have time for Vispero to investigate the issue and hopefully do something to fix this bug. In the meantime, I need to access this particular feature for my work. Is there an alternative Windows 10 clipboard utility that I can use? I tried downloading Ditto, but as it's an extension to the Windows 10 clipboard itself, no luck there.
Thanks,
Cristóbal







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moderated Re: USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

Richard Turner
 

If jaws is playing through your speakers, and the microphone is picking up the speakers, Jaws will come through the microphone.
I have not heard of any way to avoid Jaws being heard in a Zoom meeting unless you are wearing headphones.



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On May 21, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Shai <shaiwol@...> wrote:

Hello,
I am considering a USB microphone for use in Zoom meetings in lieu of
a headset with microphone and I was wondering if JAWS speech would
come in on the microphone if I were to use this set up? The JAWS
speech coming through is something that I would like to alleviate.
This was occurring with the laptop and built-in microphone.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

--
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Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@...






moderated Re: silenting jaws

Bill White
 

Hi, Jerry. From the archives:

 

Open the application in question.

 

Press jaws key + the number six on the numbers row to launch jaws  settings center.

 

you will open in add new configuration manager.

A default name will be automatically entered in the application name.

Press enter to accept.

 

You will be in a search edit box.

Type sleep

You will be presented with two results.

 

Arrow down to

Sleep mode.

Press the space bar to check it

Tab to the ok button and press enter.

Now, whenever you launch the self voicing application, jaws will be automatically put to sleep.

 

Just remember that, once you have set the application so that JAWS goes to sleep whenever a particular application is launched, it is a little difficult to get JAWS to awake in that application, should you ever need it to do so in the future.

 

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry hathaway
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 7:41 PM
To: JFW Listserve
Subject: silenting jaws

 

Where can I find the setting to silent jaws when I open a program such as a game or other program that has it own voice program for the blind.

 

Jerry

 


moderated USB condenser mic and JAWS2021

Shai
 

Hello,
I am considering a USB microphone for use in Zoom meetings in lieu of
a headset with microphone and I was wondering if JAWS speech would
come in on the microphone if I were to use this set up? The JAWS
speech coming through is something that I would like to alleviate.
This was occurring with the laptop and built-in microphone.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: silenting jaws

 

Just realized that the link I gave will likely open the whole topic.  See this specific message, https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/48915, though the whole topic, Silencing JAWS during self-voicing programs, would have additional information you might find helpful.
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moderated Re: outlook hotkeys

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry hathaway
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 9:48 PM
To: JFW Listserve <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: outlook hotkeys

 

I am looking for a list of hotkey board commands for MS 365 Outlook on my new Windows 10 computer

 

Jerry

 


moderated Re: silenting jaws

 

JAWS+Spacebar, followed by S is the toggle speech on/off shortcut

If you want JAWS speech off any time you gain focus on the window of a self-voicing program, see this topic in the group archives:  Silencing JAWS during self-voicing programs.  I do not believe this has changed at all in later versions.
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: outlook hotkeys

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Outlook+365+keyboard+shortcuts 
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moderated Re: silenting jaws

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

I think what you want here is speech on demand. Press the layered command JAWS key and space and hit S. If the games or game is self voicing your just better off closing out JAWS. Just be sure to use a shortcut key like alt CTRL J to bring it back up once your done. Happy gaming.

On 5/21/2021 10:41 PM, Jerry hathaway wrote:
Where can I find the setting to silent jaws when I open a program such as a game or other program that has it own voice program for the blind.
 
Jerry
 

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