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moderated Re: loosing eloquence speech with win 10 21h1 build 19043.1081

James English
 

Hi,

I'm having the same issue with jaws 2018.

- James

On 7/2/21, ratshtron <northstarr1950@gmail.com> wrote:
hmmm, have no trouble with the same configuration on a desktop. the
only difference is the build of the software which is 19043.1052.


Legend has it that on Friday 7/2/2021 05:34 PM, Marie said:
----------------------------------------
I believe that the oldest version of Jaws which words reliably with
Win10 is Jaws 19, which may well be a big part of your trouble.
Marie


-----Original Message----- From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: loosing eloquence speech with win 10 21h1 build 19043.1081

I am not sure why this is happening but I keep loosing speech using
eloquence with jaws 18 under windows 10 and the voice that will work
is sapi 5 64. I am not sure butcould it be a corupt file? thanks for
any suggestions. and happy 4th for our U.S.A. members
!









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moderated Re: loosing eloquence speech with win 10 21h1 build 19043.1081

ratshtron
 

hmmm, have no trouble with the same configuration on a desktop. the only difference is the build of the software which is 19043.1052.


Legend has it that on Friday 7/2/2021 05:34 PM, Marie said:
----------------------------------------
I believe that the oldest version of Jaws which words reliably with Win10 is Jaws 19, which may well be a big part of your trouble.
Marie


-----Original Message----- From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: loosing eloquence speech with win 10 21h1 build 19043.1081

I am not sure why this is happening but I keep loosing speech using
eloquence with jaws 18 under windows 10 and the voice that will work
is sapi 5 64. I am not sure butcould it be a corupt file? thanks for
any suggestions. and happy 4th for our U.S.A. members
!









----------------------------------------


moderated Re: loosing eloquence speech with win 10 21h1 build 19043.1081

Marie <scribbles.mn@...>
 

I believe that the oldest version of Jaws which words reliably with Win10 is Jaws 19, which may well be a big part of your trouble.
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: loosing eloquence speech with win 10 21h1 build 19043.1081

I am not sure why this is happening but I keep loosing speech using
eloquence with jaws 18 under windows 10 and the voice that will work
is sapi 5 64. I am not sure butcould it be a corupt file? thanks for
any suggestions. and happy 4th for our U.S.A. members
!


moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Tony
 

None.  Windows-g is supposed to toggle the setting but I can’t possibly be fat fingering that combination as often as it happens.  I bought a 3 year warranty on this keyboard and it is about time to use it.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

You mentioned your keyboard goes into gaming mode.

 

Out of interest what games do you play on your system?

 

Thanks

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry about my previous message.  My keyboard randomly goes into gamer mode and things get wacky.

 

Thanks for the responses.  I called Brian this morning and liked the answers I received.  I have ordered the course and scripts and am excited about learning to use them.

 

I am doing some volunteer work helping to improve site accessibility.  The person I have been working with has been patient while I try to learn Teams but I am not sure everyone will be as understanding.  This should help me not to waste so much of their time and hopefully make a better impression for our community.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

 

Hi Tony:

 

I use the screen sharing in teams a lot. 

 

Ms Teams has a command to pop up the sharing toolbar its

Control + shift + e

 

Then you need to arrow to left or right.  I believe the share my screen is 2 arrows to the right and hit enter.

 

This shares your screen.  So the person at the other end can see it.  Although they don’t have any control.  So to give them control they need to request it and you need to give it to them. 

 

It also takes a few key strokes to do that.

I’m all about efficiency so I’ve been thinking of asking Brian to add commands to do these tasks.  It would save a pile of  key board commands that one needs to do currently.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Have a good day.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just starting with Teams.  I’m doing fairly well with the free scripts and have listened to the Hartgen audio description. 

 

One thing I have run up against, and did not hear on the audio, is settings in Teams.  Sharing my computer audio is easy but sharing my screen is a graphic that I can’t find and don’t always have sighted help available. 

 

I assume there are probably other hidden controls as well.  Does Hartgen’s scripts provide access to these controls?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Spotify

N K Shackelford
 

I had this for a while and did play stuff but could not download as they said I could. Can someone tell me how to download from that site. I had the paid one.

Nance

 

N K Shackelford

===Walk on Faith And Trust In Love=== Michael Reid

 


moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Don Mauck
 

We at Oracle want to use Teams for creating expenses, checking different sales reports and other things. Our problem is that seem to be no support for tables or headings also labeling fields seems to be an issue. Can anyone comment on that use of Teams? Thanks in advance.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

You mentioned your keyboard goes into gaming mode.

 

Out of interest what games do you play on your system?

 

Thanks

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry about my previous message.  My keyboard randomly goes into gamer mode and things get wacky.

 

Thanks for the responses.  I called Brian this morning and liked the answers I received.  I have ordered the course and scripts and am excited about learning to use them.

 

I am doing some volunteer work helping to improve site accessibility.  The person I have been working with has been patient while I try to learn Teams but I am not sure everyone will be as understanding.  This should help me not to waste so much of their time and hopefully make a better impression for our community.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

 

Hi Tony:

 

I use the screen sharing in teams a lot. 

 

Ms Teams has a command to pop up the sharing toolbar its

Control + shift + e

 

Then you need to arrow to left or right.  I believe the share my screen is 2 arrows to the right and hit enter.

 

This shares your screen.  So the person at the other end can see it.  Although they don’t have any control.  So to give them control they need to request it and you need to give it to them. 

 

It also takes a few key strokes to do that.

I’m all about efficiency so I’ve been thinking of asking Brian to add commands to do these tasks.  It would save a pile of  key board commands that one needs to do currently.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Have a good day.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just starting with Teams.  I’m doing fairly well with the free scripts and have listened to the Hartgen audio description. 

 

One thing I have run up against, and did not hear on the audio, is settings in Teams.  Sharing my computer audio is easy but sharing my screen is a graphic that I can’t find and don’t always have sighted help available. 

 

I assume there are probably other hidden controls as well.  Does Hartgen’s scripts provide access to these controls?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Shan Noyes
 

You mentioned your keyboard goes into gaming mode.

 

Out of interest what games do you play on your system?

 

Thanks

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry about my previous message.  My keyboard randomly goes into gamer mode and things get wacky.

 

Thanks for the responses.  I called Brian this morning and liked the answers I received.  I have ordered the course and scripts and am excited about learning to use them.

 

I am doing some volunteer work helping to improve site accessibility.  The person I have been working with has been patient while I try to learn Teams but I am not sure everyone will be as understanding.  This should help me not to waste so much of their time and hopefully make a better impression for our community.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

 

Hi Tony:

 

I use the screen sharing in teams a lot. 

 

Ms Teams has a command to pop up the sharing toolbar its

Control + shift + e

 

Then you need to arrow to left or right.  I believe the share my screen is 2 arrows to the right and hit enter.

 

This shares your screen.  So the person at the other end can see it.  Although they don’t have any control.  So to give them control they need to request it and you need to give it to them. 

 

It also takes a few key strokes to do that.

I’m all about efficiency so I’ve been thinking of asking Brian to add commands to do these tasks.  It would save a pile of  key board commands that one needs to do currently.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Have a good day.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just starting with Teams.  I’m doing fairly well with the free scripts and have listened to the Hartgen audio description. 

 

One thing I have run up against, and did not hear on the audio, is settings in Teams.  Sharing my computer audio is easy but sharing my screen is a graphic that I can’t find and don’t always have sighted help available. 

 

I assume there are probably other hidden controls as well.  Does Hartgen’s scripts provide access to these controls?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

 

On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 02:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I think offering pen and paper is something no employer would have a problem with, but that is magnitudes different from expecting somebody to buy a Jaws licence and have a laptop ready for somebody who comes in for an interview and who may or may not get the job.
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It is orders of magnitude in difference.

Even if it were just pen and paper, though, were someone to show up who wanted to note take, but didn't bring pen and paper, that would make a lot of interviewers look askance.  That's really basic preparedness if you're someone who takes notes.  And basic preparedness is a huge part of any job.
 
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

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moderated loosing eloquence speech with win 10 21h1 build 19043.1081

ratshtron
 

I am not sure why this is happening but I keep loosing speech using eloquence with jaws 18 under windows 10 and the voice that will work is sapi 5 64. I am not sure butcould it be a corupt file? thanks for any suggestions. and happy 4th for our U.S.A. members
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moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I think offering pen and paper is something no employer would have a problem with, but that is magnitudes different from expecting somebody to buy a Jaws licence and have a laptop ready for somebody who comes in for an interview and who may or may not get the job.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

 

I would never expect an employer to offer a laptop as an interview tool.

If you go to an interview, and you expect to take notes; you should take your note taking tools with you.

A sighted person would not show up and expect them to provide a pen and paper.

If the job interview involves some kind of testing, then that should be accessible unless the interviewer doesn't know you have a disability.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 



On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@...> wrote:

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike






moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

Interesting!

At 08:52 AM 7/2/2021, you wrote:
well, I'm using JAWS 2020 and Excel 2010 on Windows 10, and am able to use the JAWS cursor.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2021, 10:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Yes, I remember using the JAWS cursor. Can't do it now, though. I know
it's Windows and new interfacing and such, but it feels like
regression. Booooo hoooo!
At 09:02 PM 7/1/2021, you wrote:
I know that back in JAWS 16 and Windows XP, this was possible using
the JAWS cursor. Now, you may have to use BE MY EYES ap on your
phone to get someone to tell you what is visible.

On 6/30/2021 6:36 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Thank you. I don't want to change the size of the cell. what I
want is to know which characters are visible on the screen when a
cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to
auto-fit the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space
2. Press Alt+H to get to the Home Tab
3. Press ZC For Cell
4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width














.





moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Tony
 

Sorry about my previous message.  My keyboard randomly goes into gamer mode and things get wacky.

 

Thanks for the responses.  I called Brian this morning and liked the answers I received.  I have ordered the course and scripts and am excited about learning to use them.

 

I am doing some volunteer work helping to improve site accessibility.  The person I have been working with has been patient while I try to learn Teams but I am not sure everyone will be as understanding.  This should help me not to waste so much of their time and hopefully make a better impression for our community.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

 

Hi Tony:

 

I use the screen sharing in teams a lot. 

 

Ms Teams has a command to pop up the sharing toolbar its

Control + shift + e

 

Then you need to arrow to left or right.  I believe the share my screen is 2 arrows to the right and hit enter.

 

This shares your screen.  So the person at the other end can see it.  Although they don’t have any control.  So to give them control they need to request it and you need to give it to them. 

 

It also takes a few key strokes to do that.

I’m all about efficiency so I’ve been thinking of asking Brian to add commands to do these tasks.  It would save a pile of  key board commands that one needs to do currently.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Have a good day.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just starting with Teams.  I’m doing fairly well with the free scripts and have listened to the Hartgen audio description. 

 

One thing I have run up against, and did not hear on the audio, is settings in Teams.  Sharing my computer audio is easy but sharing my screen is a graphic that I can’t find and don’t always have sighted help available. 

 

I assume there are probably other hidden controls as well.  Does Hartgen’s scripts provide access to these controls?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Shan Noyes
 

 

Hi Tony:

 

I use the screen sharing in teams a lot. 

 

Ms Teams has a command to pop up the sharing toolbar its

Control + shift + e

 

Then you need to arrow to left or right.  I believe the share my screen is 2 arrows to the right and hit enter.

 

This shares your screen.  So the person at the other end can see it.  Although they don’t have any control.  So to give them control they need to request it and you need to give it to them. 

 

It also takes a few key strokes to do that.

I’m all about efficiency so I’ve been thinking of asking Brian to add commands to do these tasks.  It would save a pile of  key board commands that one needs to do currently.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Have a good day.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just starting with Teams.  I’m doing fairly well with the free scripts and have listened to the Hartgen audio description. 

 

One thing I have run up against, and did not hear on the audio, is settings in Teams.  Sharing my computer audio is easy but sharing my screen is a graphic that I can’t find and don’t always have sighted help available. 

 

I assume there are probably other hidden controls as well.  Does Hartgen’s scripts provide access to these controls?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Tony
 

I talked to Brian this mornin forward to makin reat use of them.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams
Importance: High

 

It does a really nice job of it.  At least I find it a lot easier to use ms teams with Brian’s scripts as compared to the ones either from Vispero or the dlee site.

 

Of course you use the   teams build in commands like control 2 to jump to the chat area, or control 3 to jump to the teams area, etc.

 

But then with Brian’s scripts the power and efficiency then really shows up.  I don’t find myself having to tab back and forth to do things.  Brian provides a Jaws command when in the control 3 area to quickly popp back and forth between listing the feeds  and the postings. This is an area I struggled with for the past 2 years. Might be because I was mostly working with the chat area.

And the team feed area is not used as much.

 

The other things I really aappreciate about the scripts is that there are commands for checking the status of the mike, or video when in meetings.  Which is great because if you aren’t sure is my mike off or on, you can just check it, where as before you had to give the  command to mute or unmute your mike to check.  So say you wanted to ake sure it was off.  In the past you would hit  control + shift + m and that would change the status from mute to unmute.  So if it changed to unmute and you wanted it muted, well you would have to issue the command again to turn it off.

 

A pain in the neck because all you wanted to do was check it.  As well when one mutes and unmutes their Mike I’m pretty sure that everyone in the meeting sees that. 

 

The course is also pretty good.  I found I learnt a lot of things from it that were not covered in the Vispero or Microsoft webinars on using Teams from and accessibility point of view.

 

Also don’t know if I mentioned it before, but Brian has build in a keyboard command that goes out and checks to see if there is an update to his scripts.

 

Oh yes, just used another excellent command in the scripts this morning.  That is:

Say in your calendar you have accepted a meeting that has a link to a teams session.  Well prior to Brian’s script you would have to tab several times to find the link to join the meeting.  Well the scripts have a key command that you issue which finds and starts the meeting.  A great saver of time and pain.

 

There also is an email list for questions and suggestions for additional commands. 

 

Hope this helps.  If you get the scripts I would be interested in hearing your experience with them and Teams.

 

p.s. I guess I should also apologize for being so excited by these scripts.  But then I’m a person who hates not being as efficient as my sighted colleagues when using an application.  I just hate having to tab back and forth so much which was what I was doing in the pre Hartgen script days.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.

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moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Shan Noyes
 

It does a really nice job of it.  At least I find it a lot easier to use ms teams with Brian’s scripts as compared to the ones either from Vispero or the dlee site.

 

Of course you use the   teams build in commands like control 2 to jump to the chat area, or control 3 to jump to the teams area, etc.

 

But then with Brian’s scripts the power and efficiency then really shows up.  I don’t find myself having to tab back and forth to do things.  Brian provides a Jaws command when in the control 3 area to quickly popp back and forth between listing the feeds  and the postings. This is an area I struggled with for the past 2 years. Might be because I was mostly working with the chat area.

And the team feed area is not used as much.

 

The other things I really aappreciate about the scripts is that there are commands for checking the status of the mike, or video when in meetings.  Which is great because if you aren’t sure is my mike off or on, you can just check it, where as before you had to give the  command to mute or unmute your mike to check.  So say you wanted to ake sure it was off.  In the past you would hit  control + shift + m and that would change the status from mute to unmute.  So if it changed to unmute and you wanted it muted, well you would have to issue the command again to turn it off.

 

A pain in the neck because all you wanted to do was check it.  As well when one mutes and unmutes their Mike I’m pretty sure that everyone in the meeting sees that. 

 

The course is also pretty good.  I found I learnt a lot of things from it that were not covered in the Vispero or Microsoft webinars on using Teams from and accessibility point of view.

 

Also don’t know if I mentioned it before, but Brian has build in a keyboard command that goes out and checks to see if there is an update to his scripts.

 

Oh yes, just used another excellent command in the scripts this morning.  That is:

Say in your calendar you have accepted a meeting that has a link to a teams session.  Well prior to Brian’s script you would have to tab several times to find the link to join the meeting.  Well the scripts have a key command that you issue which finds and starts the meeting.  A great saver of time and pain.

 

There also is an email list for questions and suggestions for additional commands. 

 

Hope this helps.  If you get the scripts I would be interested in hearing your experience with them and Teams.

 

p.s. I guess I should also apologize for being so excited by these scripts.  But then I’m a person who hates not being as efficient as my sighted colleagues when using an application.  I just hate having to tab back and forth so much which was what I was doing in the pre Hartgen script days.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

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Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


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Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
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What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


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Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
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Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Mario
 

well, I'm using JAWS 2020 and Excel 2010 on Windows 10, and am able to use the JAWS cursor.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2021, 10:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Yes, I remember using the JAWS cursor.  Can't do it now, though.  I know
it's Windows and new interfacing and such, but it feels like
regression.  Booooo hoooo!
At 09:02 PM 7/1/2021, you wrote:
I know that back in JAWS 16 and Windows XP, this was possible using
the JAWS cursor.  Now, you may have to use BE MY EYES ap on your
phone to get someone to tell you what is visible.

On 6/30/2021 6:36 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Thank you.  I don't want to change the size of the cell.  what I
want is to know which characters are visible on the screen when a
cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to
auto-fit the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space
2. Press Alt+H to get to the Home Tab
3. Press ZC For Cell
4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width














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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

Yes, I remember using the JAWS cursor. Can't do it now, though. I know it's Windows and new interfacing and such, but it feels like regression. Booooo hoooo!

At 09:02 PM 7/1/2021, you wrote:
I know that back in JAWS 16 and Windows XP, this was possible using the JAWS cursor. Now, you may have to use BE MY EYES ap on your phone to get someone to tell you what is visible.

On 6/30/2021 6:36 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Thank you. I don't want to change the size of the cell. what I want is to know which characters are visible on the screen when a cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space
2. Press Alt+H to get to the Home Tab
3. Press ZC For Cell
4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width





moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Marty Hutchings
 

I know that back in JAWS 16 and Windows XP, this was possible using the JAWS cursor.  Now, you may have to use BE MY EYES ap on your phone to get someone to tell you what is visible.

On 6/30/2021 6:36 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Thank you.  I don't want to change the size of the cell.  what I want is to know which characters are visible on the screen when a cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space
2. Press Alt+H to get to the Home Tab
3. Press ZC For Cell
4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width




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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

thanks, Alan. that works. Not convenient, but workable. FS says you can't read just the visible text; fun to prove them wrong. (LOL)

At 08:49 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
Hi Ann,

The best workaround I've come up with to give you what you want is to turn
on wrap text for the format of the column you're checking as explained in my
previous post. When you place focus on the cell with the text you're
checking, for example the cell containing Wednesday is the middle of the
week per your original post, press F2 to edit that cell, and press ctrl +
home, Fusion speaks what is displayed in line 1 of the wrapped text. It will
speak the other wrapped lines as you arrow up and down while in edit mode.
Based on what is spoken for the first line, you can work out what is
truncated when wrap text is turned off.

I hope this helps.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Thank you. I don't want to change the size of the cell. what I want is to
know which characters are visible on the screen when a cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit
the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space 2. Press Alt+H to get
to the Home Tab 3. Press ZC For Cell 4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width








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