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Moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

OK. I am not sure I was clear enough with my first inquiry. I am not
copying a specific web site, but an entire folder of them. Smile.

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

This works with amy browser, hilight the URL by doing alt-d and ctrl-a and
then copy to the clipboard using ctrl-c. Now go to that favorites folder
and do alt-h-w-s and paste the URL into the edit box, hit next and name the
shortcut.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:13:57 -0400,
Barbara wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Hello David,



I like your idea below. I have been using both Firefox and Internet
Explorer. I recently installed Chrome. I placed on my desktop a link to
the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder. So now I can use this same
list for both of the browsers. However when I tried to use this with
Chrome, it did not work. I got garbage for web results. Do I need to
change the Favorites file format for Chrome? Is there a specific method I
must use to access the desktop folder?
Some other ideas?



I am using a Windows 7 computer.



Thanks.



Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues









From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome,
favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is
very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.



If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can
open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default
browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no
effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to
change your default

browser via the Control Panel.



Regards,

David





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...
Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Thanks, but been there done that.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:31 PM, netbat66 <netbat66@...> wrote:

try this. tab once then press enter.
or just enter if you want to cancel the shutdown.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shut down



Thanks Dan but I cannot get to the shut down anyway button. Jaws just goes silently into the ether.



Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C6b227184ec684d2d842708d70187cccb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979555069380799&amp;sdata=P%2FmEmRsj5gCqOvVe1qBrE8PLwbrjBZgbmdoQ2m9w2MQ%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:




Hi Richard,

I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both. I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter. All seems to be well. At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down.



Dan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down





If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C6b227184ec684d2d842708d70187cccb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979555069380799&amp;sdata=P%2FmEmRsj5gCqOvVe1qBrE8PLwbrjBZgbmdoQ2m9w2MQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

netbat66
 

try this. tab once then press enter.
or just enter if you want to cancel the shutdown.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shut down



Thanks Dan but I cannot get to the shut down anyway button. Jaws just goes silently into the ether.



Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:




Hi Richard,

I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both. I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter. All seems to be well. At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down.



Dan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down





If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

John Covici
 

This works with amy browser, hilight the URL by doing alt-d and ctrl-a
and then copy to the clipboard using ctrl-c. Now go to that favorites
folder and do alt-h-w-s and paste the URL into the edit box, hit next
and name the shortcut.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:13:57 -0400,
Barbara wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Hello David,



I like your idea below. I have been using both Firefox and Internet Explorer. I recently installed Chrome. I placed on my desktop a link to the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder. So now I can use this same list for both of the
browsers. However when I tried to use this with Chrome, it did not work. I got garbage for web results. Do I need to change the Favorites file format for Chrome? Is there a specific method I must use to access the desktop folder?
Some other ideas?



I am using a Windows 7 computer.



Thanks.



Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues









From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome, favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.



If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to change your default

browser via the Control Panel.



Regards,

David





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...
Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 


Thanks Dan but I cannot get to the shut down anyway button. Jaws just goes silently into the ether.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

  I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both.  I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter.  All seems to be well.  At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 
Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Dan Longmore
 

Hi Richard,

  I get this on occasion and is either caused by JAWS or a Microsoft office product or a combination of both.  I just tab to the “Shut down” anyway setting and hit enter.  All seems to be well.  At times it has been helpful if I have forgotten to save a document that I am working on and the blocked shutdown has allowed me to go back, save the work, and then shut down. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 
Moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Are you talking about using the run command?
Unloading jaws, loading Narrator and doing a standard shut down or restart seems easier until I find out why the ---- this is happening.
Richard


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988086527&amp;sdata=h4vKJGiE6SsqUU59eeTJYtU6bcT0JLwHSJ5Lx3FP17Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C83d1f4aad073461b3a8908d701853810%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979543988096526&amp;sdata=gDC5Q24fsuYFrSnlN3CMyrHecnqtfta2ae6l1ZH%2F2kg%3D&amp;reserved=0

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59













--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...
Moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

John Covici
 

Try using a shutdown command shutdown -s -f -t 0 or for restart
shutdown -r -f -t 0

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:32:18 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&amp;sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C833a8252ca914f3f170208d7017e141d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979513317811062&amp;sdata=jezuQQSGWwvaSffPFenxjM0Jz%2F50JEOTahHOlKp9O88%3D&amp;reserved=0

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59













--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...
Moderated Re: Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

dennis
 

i use ie to make bookmarks on the desktop. then i use waterfox as my defalt brouser and they open that way. the same would be for krome or firefox.

On 7/5/2019 2:13 PM, Barbara wrote:

Hello David,

 

I like your idea below.  I have been using both Firefox and Internet Explorer.  I recently installed Chrome.  I placed on my desktop a link to the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder.  So now I can use this same list for both of the browsers.  However when I tried to use this with Chrome, it did not work.  I got garbage for web results.  Do I need to change the Favorites file format for Chrome?  Is there a specific method I must use to access the desktop folder? Some other ideas?

 

I am using a Windows 7 computer.

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To:  main@jfw.groups.io

Subject:   Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome, favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.

 

If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to change your default

browser via the Control Panel.

 

Regards,

David

 

 

--
Dennis Cornelison

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Thanks Keith,
But since Jaws was the only thing running, I'm going to, when I am not quite so frustrated, uninstall all FS products and reinstall.
Something is royally messed up with Jaws.
This is not the only issue.
Later,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io <kramlinger.keith@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

I've had some similar experiences.

The only way I found around it was to clear everything except JAWS from the taskbar, and then shutdown seems to work for me after that.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Blocked shut down


I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc69c0529ad1341a1e20508d70178de4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979490943116282&amp;sdata=fjqan%2F44AQA3xA%2BDf5YlrRMHRG3t5jmRGvX5hHEE6RI%3D&amp;reserved=0


On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@...> wrote:

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc69c0529ad1341a1e20508d70178de4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979490943116282&amp;sdata=fjqan%2F44AQA3xA%2BDf5YlrRMHRG3t5jmRGvX5hHEE6RI%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc69c0529ad1341a1e20508d70178de4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979490943126290&amp;sdata=wSuIiCd8lUWvVkSEDyStUNJBy2I2THh9%2BPLb%2B4lRtvA%3D&amp;reserved=0>

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Thanks Don, yes, I thought I was writing to the other list. O well.
Since forwarding is frowned upon, but I guess I need to change the names in my contacts so they are quite different.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Walls <donwalls@...> wrote:

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





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Moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Don Walls
 

Richard, for some reason your last two messages to the list have come through twice.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Blocked shutdown

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C787d4d9a17954552176608d70175d866%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979477956414541&amp;sdata=A5mz60GwsAgfDp6Lku%2FXQx9hUqXg%2B%2FOaYprmw6JAQUg%3D&amp;reserved=0

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Moderated Placing Bookmark File on Desktop for Browser Use

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

Hello David,

 

I like your idea below.  I have been using both Firefox and Internet Explorer.  I recently installed Chrome.  I placed on my desktop a link to the Internet Explorer Favorites list folder.  So now I can use this same list for both of the browsers.  However when I tried to use this with Chrome, it did not work.  I got garbage for web results.  Do I need to change the Favorites file format for Chrome?  Is there a specific method I must use to access the desktop folder? Some other ideas?

 

I am using a Windows 7 computer.

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

Home of the 2019 Stanley Cup Champion St. Louis Blues

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of David Kingsbury

<davidkingsbury77@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:18 PM

To:  main@jfw.groups.io

Subject:   Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hello,

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome, favorites in IE, etc. Personally,

I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is very clunky. By

contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.

 

If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can open the favorites in whatever

browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default browser, maintain all my

favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no effort to maintain

bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to change your default

browser via the Control Panel.

 

Regards,

David

 

 
Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@...>
 

Hi Richard,

I've had some similar experiences.

The only way I found around it was to clear everything except JAWS from the taskbar, and then shutdown seems to work for me after that.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Blocked shut down


I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@...> wrote:

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C91a5356ab08b40c3356908d701720f42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979461698502362&amp;sdata=mOQfhViNS4qqRB5kNXTDNDFW2rdRzzgg5X59fnOKru0%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C91a5356ab08b40c3356908d701720f42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979461698502362&amp;sdata=xV8WxyRZ9gLKcXwGRRWw1nMcIs%2FfAuXQWhAoX7Qewrw%3D&amp;reserved=0>

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C787d4d9a17954552176608d70175d866%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979477956414541&amp;sdata=A5mz60GwsAgfDp6Lku%2FXQx9hUqXg%2B%2FOaYprmw6JAQUg%3D&amp;reserved=0

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Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I am no longer getting the shut down anyway. I've had my wife look, and after a very short couple of seconds, it just sits there saying shutting down.
I've waited several minutes until I have to just power it off.
But, this never happens if I'm running narrator at the time of shut down.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com

On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@...> wrote:

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C91a5356ab08b40c3356908d701720f42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979461698502362&amp;sdata=mOQfhViNS4qqRB5kNXTDNDFW2rdRzzgg5X59fnOKru0%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C91a5356ab08b40c3356908d701720f42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636979461698502362&amp;sdata=xV8WxyRZ9gLKcXwGRRWw1nMcIs%2FfAuXQWhAoX7Qewrw%3D&amp;reserved=0>

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

Maria Campbell
 

My laptop shuts down on its own as well after a block shutdown message.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/5/2019 2:08 PM, netbat66 wrote:
try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Re: Blocked shutdown

netbat66
 

try waiting a few seconds longer. many times with my windows 10 it will pop up a non talking message to force a manual shutdown. after about 5 seconds it will shutdown on its own.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blocked shutdown



If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Re: Blocked shut down

Onwardbob
 

Hi, sometimes I get that "Block shutdown" message. tabbing takes me through
the open items MS suggests I close. More tabbbing takes me to a "shutdown
anyway" option. Enter on that and your shutdown should proceed.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Blocked shut down

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.



Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?



Thanks,

Richard





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com>

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Moderated Blocked shut down

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with no issues what so ever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 
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