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moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

aaron lane
 

Hi, Aaron. I feel the same way. If you buy the $90 per year JAWS subscription, and are unable to pay for your next year, within about a month, you will
see your JAWS program revert to 40-minute mode. For this reason, I continue to by the 2-year SMA. This way, even if my JAWS is out of date, I still have
a functioning license for it.

Bill White


Good idea.

I just got approval at work to purchase the commercial license, so I won't have to deal with the subscription for now. Thanks.

On 6/1/2021 12:05 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Aaron. I feel the same way. If you buy the $90 per year JAWS subscription, and are unable to pay for your next year, within about a month, you will see your JAWS program revert to 40-minute mode. For this reason, I continue to by the 2-year SMA. This way, even if my JAWS is out of date, I still have a functioning license for it.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

OK. So I'm just now looking in to upgrading. I see that now JAWS is a
subscription service for home use. I'm trying to decide how I feel about
that. My initial reaction is that I would really like to just purchase
once and own it. what are your thoughts about that?


On 5/31/2021 11:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Aaron,

J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version. Vispero was
rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little features
that were present in all other Jaws versions. I won't go into all the
details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the computer lingo crap, but
more knowledgeable members of the list might elaborate more. So, as Randy
suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to getting
an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws script files
that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as complicated as I
think it is.


On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Aaron,

I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running. J17
doesn't work well with Windows 10. I could be wrong, but have you tried a
newer version of Jaws? Preferably J19 or up.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created using HTML
& JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it is a Chrome
legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item, then lock the left
mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able to navigate to the point
in which I need to drop the item. I've tried switching to the PC cursor, but
still nothing. I can move with, shift + Alt, then arrow to the spot, but
when I then unlock the left mouse button, the item was not moved. I have
also written a Script that locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the
coordinates that I need, then I unlock the button myself. This script works
but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.













moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

aaron lane
 

"Keep in mind that subscriptions is where things are going with many programs/applications and you can't necessary expect things
to be the way they were 10 or 20 years ago; it's a different world.

Best regards,
Sieghard"


Good point. I've noticed that lately. It will just have to be something new to get used to. Thanks.

On 6/1/2021 12:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hello Aaron,

If you are in the US and have the option to buy Jaws via the subscription model this would be the way to go. I have been a Jaws user since the days of DOS in 1989 and in my over 30 years of using computers I rarely find it pays to not upgrade to whatever is the latest version of a program. If you would like to upgrade from Jaws 17 and you really should, in fact, I think with any of the latest Windows 10 versions it's a must, then it would probably cost a lot of money to do so in the conventional way. Then you really should buy your SMA every two years because once again I just don't think it's worth falling behind with Jaws given how quickly things change on the web and with Windows these days, and in the end the difference between your SMA price every two years and the annual subscription is quite minor.
The best thing to do here would be to simply call Vispero and tell them your situation and ask for what it would cost to upgrade the old way and then also discuss the subscription. Keep in mind that subscriptions is where things are going with many programs/applications and you can't necessary expect things to be the way they were 10 or 20 years ago; it's a different world.

Best regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

OK. So I'm just now looking in to upgrading. I see that now JAWS is a subscription service for home use. I'm trying to decide how I feel about that. My initial reaction is that I would really like to just purchase once and own it. what are your thoughts about that?


On 5/31/2021 11:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Aaron,

J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version. Vispero was
rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little
features that were present in all other Jaws versions. I won't go
into all the details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the
computer lingo crap, but more knowledgeable members of the list might
elaborate more. So, as Randy suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to
getting an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws
script files that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as
complicated as I think it is.


On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Aaron,

I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running.
J17 doesn't work well with Windows 10. I could be wrong, but have you
tried a newer version of Jaws? Preferably J19 or up.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created
using HTML & JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it
is a Chrome legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item,
then lock the left mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able
to navigate to the point in which I need to drop the item. I've tried
switching to the PC cursor, but still nothing. I can move with, shift
+ Alt, then arrow to the spot, but when I then unlock the left mouse
button, the item was not moved. I have also written a Script that
locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the coordinates that I need,
then I unlock the button myself. This script works but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.












moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

aaron lane
 

Sounds great. Thanks much.

On 6/1/2021 12:23 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
I can see both sides of the coin for subscription versus SMA. If you can hold off for just a bit you may have the chance to save some money. Convention season is upon us and the NFB is going virtual again this year. Last year Vispero Gabe a 20% discount to everyone since they couldn’t hand out discount cards at convention. Since the NFB is virtual this year as well Vispero may again offer a discount to everyone again. This is 100% speculation on my part, but you might get the chance to save some money. Last year Eric was telling people during the convention that if they needed to bring their SMA current to call customer service the week of convention and they may offer the discount since the discount was only intended for the subscription. If you are going to stay with SMA it may be worth your time to see if Vispero offers a discount on the subscription and then try to work with customer service.

Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@icloud.com



On Jun 1, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Hello Aaron,

If you are in the US and have the option to buy Jaws via the subscription model this would be the way to go. I have been a Jaws user since the days of DOS in 1989 and in my over 30 years of using computers I rarely find it pays to not upgrade to whatever is the latest version of a program. If you would like to upgrade from Jaws 17 and you really should, in fact, I think with any of the latest Windows 10 versions it's a must, then it would probably cost a lot of money to do so in the conventional way. Then you really should buy your SMA every two years because once again I just don't think it's worth falling behind with Jaws given how quickly things change on the web and with Windows these days, and in the end the difference between your SMA price every two years and the annual subscription is quite minor.
The best thing to do here would be to simply call Vispero and tell them your situation and ask for what it would cost to upgrade the old way and then also discuss the subscription. Keep in mind that subscriptions is where things are going with many programs/applications and you can't necessary expect things to be the way they were 10 or 20 years ago; it's a different world.

Best regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

OK. So I'm just now looking in to upgrading. I see that now JAWS is a subscription service for home use. I'm trying to decide how I feel about that. My initial reaction is that I would really like to just purchase once and own it. what are your thoughts about that?


On 5/31/2021 11:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Aaron,

J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version. Vispero was
rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little
features that were present in all other Jaws versions. I won't go
into all the details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the
computer lingo crap, but more knowledgeable members of the list might
elaborate more. So, as Randy suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to
getting an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws
script files that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as
complicated as I think it is.


On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Aaron,

I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running.
J17 doesn't work well with Windows 10. I could be wrong, but have you
tried a newer version of Jaws? Preferably J19 or up.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created
using HTML & JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it
is a Chrome legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item,
then lock the left mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able
to navigate to the point in which I need to drop the item. I've tried
switching to the PC cursor, but still nothing. I can move with, shift
+ Alt, then arrow to the spot, but when I then unlock the left mouse
button, the item was not moved. I have also written a Script that
locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the coordinates that I need,
then I unlock the button myself. This script works but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.
















moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Aaron, 

beside your decision to update JAWS here are two things about Drag & Drop and scripting. 

To my opinion Drag & Drop is sometimes hard to handle especially by using scripting. Sometimes it's necessary to drag the object right onto another object, sometimes you need to drag the object slightly before or slightly after an object. Sometimes it's possible to release the mouse and the object gets dropped and sometimes you need to press enter key to end the drop. So to find out what to do with drag & drop you need sometimes sighted help who described exactly where the cursor should be placed. In writing a JAWS script to do this work for you sometimes you need to add some extra pixels before or after or press enter key to finish the drop down. 

Speaking of scripting in different JAWS versions: I'm using JAWS a long time and did a lot of scripting and I've never discovered problems in using my old scripts in new versions. All the old scripting key words still exists in newer JAWS versions and to verify this you can look up the JAWS functions you are using in your scripts in FSDN.chm, the help file from FS with all available JAWS functions (except UIA stuff). 

All the best
Udo 


Am 31.05.2021 um 23:12 schrieb aaron lane <ajbd777@...>:

Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created using HTML & JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it is a Chrome legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item, then lock the left mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able to navigate to the point in which I need to drop the item. I've tried switching to the PC cursor, but still nothing. I can move with, shift + Alt, then arrow to the spot, but when I then unlock the left mouse button, the item was not moved. I have also written a Script that locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the coordinates that I need, then I unlock the button myself. This script works but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.  


moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

Jim Weiss
 

I can see both sides of the coin for subscription versus SMA. If you can hold off for just a bit you may have the chance to save some money. Convention season is upon us and the NFB is going virtual again this year. Last year Vispero Gabe a 20% discount to everyone since they couldn’t hand out discount cards at convention. Since the NFB is virtual this year as well Vispero may again offer a discount to everyone again. This is 100% speculation on my part, but you might get the chance to save some money. Last year Eric was telling people during the convention that if they needed to bring their SMA current to call customer service the week of convention and they may offer the discount since the discount was only intended for the subscription. If you are going to stay with SMA it may be worth your time to see if Vispero offers a discount on the subscription and then try to work with customer service.

Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@icloud.com

On Jun 1, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Hello Aaron,

If you are in the US and have the option to buy Jaws via the subscription model this would be the way to go. I have been a Jaws user since the days of DOS in 1989 and in my over 30 years of using computers I rarely find it pays to not upgrade to whatever is the latest version of a program. If you would like to upgrade from Jaws 17 and you really should, in fact, I think with any of the latest Windows 10 versions it's a must, then it would probably cost a lot of money to do so in the conventional way. Then you really should buy your SMA every two years because once again I just don't think it's worth falling behind with Jaws given how quickly things change on the web and with Windows these days, and in the end the difference between your SMA price every two years and the annual subscription is quite minor.
The best thing to do here would be to simply call Vispero and tell them your situation and ask for what it would cost to upgrade the old way and then also discuss the subscription. Keep in mind that subscriptions is where things are going with many programs/applications and you can't necessary expect things to be the way they were 10 or 20 years ago; it's a different world.

Best regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

OK. So I'm just now looking in to upgrading. I see that now JAWS is a subscription service for home use. I'm trying to decide how I feel about that. My initial reaction is that I would really like to just purchase once and own it. what are your thoughts about that?


On 5/31/2021 11:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Aaron,

J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version. Vispero was
rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little
features that were present in all other Jaws versions. I won't go
into all the details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the
computer lingo crap, but more knowledgeable members of the list might
elaborate more. So, as Randy suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to
getting an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws
script files that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as
complicated as I think it is.


On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Aaron,

I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running.
J17 doesn't work well with Windows 10. I could be wrong, but have you
tried a newer version of Jaws? Preferably J19 or up.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created
using HTML & JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it
is a Chrome legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item,
then lock the left mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able
to navigate to the point in which I need to drop the item. I've tried
switching to the PC cursor, but still nothing. I can move with, shift
+ Alt, then arrow to the spot, but when I then unlock the left mouse
button, the item was not moved. I have also written a Script that
locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the coordinates that I need,
then I unlock the button myself. This script works but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.















moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

Bill White
 

Hi, Aaron. I feel the same way. If you buy the $90 per year JAWS subscription, and are unable to pay for your next year, within about a month, you will see your JAWS program revert to 40-minute mode. For this reason, I continue to by the 2-year SMA. This way, even if my JAWS is out of date, I still have a functioning license for it.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

OK. So I'm just now looking in to upgrading. I see that now JAWS is a
subscription service for home use. I'm trying to decide how I feel about
that. My initial reaction is that I would really like to just purchase
once and own it. what are your thoughts about that?


On 5/31/2021 11:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Aaron,

J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version. Vispero was
rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little features
that were present in all other Jaws versions. I won't go into all the
details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the computer lingo crap, but
more knowledgeable members of the list might elaborate more. So, as Randy
suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to getting
an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws script files
that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as complicated as I
think it is.


On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Aaron,

I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running. J17
doesn't work well with Windows 10. I could be wrong, but have you tried a
newer version of Jaws? Preferably J19 or up.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created using HTML
& JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it is a Chrome
legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item, then lock the left
mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able to navigate to the point
in which I need to drop the item. I've tried switching to the PC cursor, but
still nothing. I can move with, shift + Alt, then arrow to the spot, but
when I then unlock the left mouse button, the item was not moved. I have
also written a Script that locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the
coordinates that I need, then I unlock the button myself. This script works
but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.







moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

 

Hello Aaron,

If you are in the US and have the option to buy Jaws via the subscription model this would be the way to go. I have been a Jaws user since the days of DOS in 1989 and in my over 30 years of using computers I rarely find it pays to not upgrade to whatever is the latest version of a program. If you would like to upgrade from Jaws 17 and you really should, in fact, I think with any of the latest Windows 10 versions it's a must, then it would probably cost a lot of money to do so in the conventional way. Then you really should buy your SMA every two years because once again I just don't think it's worth falling behind with Jaws given how quickly things change on the web and with Windows these days, and in the end the difference between your SMA price every two years and the annual subscription is quite minor.
The best thing to do here would be to simply call Vispero and tell them your situation and ask for what it would cost to upgrade the old way and then also discuss the subscription. Keep in mind that subscriptions is where things are going with many programs/applications and you can't necessary expect things to be the way they were 10 or 20 years ago; it's a different world.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

OK. So I'm just now looking in to upgrading. I see that now JAWS is a subscription service for home use. I'm trying to decide how I feel about that. My initial reaction is that I would really like to just purchase once and own it. what are your thoughts about that?


On 5/31/2021 11:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Aaron,

J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version. Vispero was
rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little
features that were present in all other Jaws versions. I won't go
into all the details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the
computer lingo crap, but more knowledgeable members of the list might
elaborate more. So, as Randy suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to
getting an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws
script files that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as
complicated as I think it is.


On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Aaron,

I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running.
J17 doesn't work well with Windows 10. I could be wrong, but have you
tried a newer version of Jaws? Preferably J19 or up.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created
using HTML & JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it
is a Chrome legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item,
then lock the left mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able
to navigate to the point in which I need to drop the item. I've tried
switching to the PC cursor, but still nothing. I can move with, shift
+ Alt, then arrow to the spot, but when I then unlock the left mouse
button, the item was not moved. I have also written a Script that
locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the coordinates that I need,
then I unlock the button myself. This script works but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.







moderated Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

 

You should have mentioned before that you are using an out-of-support version of Outlook which to my knowledge isn't even officially compatible with Windows 10 and which would help people who reply to have a better idea why your experience is different.
I think you will find that in any recent version of Office like 2016, 2019 or the one you get with Microsoft 365 this works as it should.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 9:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Hi, Robin. I am also using business card view for my contacts, but when I select a contact, and copy it to the clipboard I don't get a file copied to the clipboard. Instead, I get the text contents for that contact copied to the clipboard. Incidentally, I am using Outlook 2010. I'll paste below, what gets copied to my clipboard when I select a contact, by using my own contact as an example.

Bill White
E-mail: billwhite92701@att.net

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 8:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Bill, it might be a matter of your view settings for contacts versus mine. I'm using the business card view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Hi, Robin. This doesn't work for me. When I navigate to a contact and copy it using CONTROL C, then paste it into an outlook email, it pastes text into the email, not an attachment.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison,
I have done this a bit with contacts on my work computer to move them to my personal. I open a new email message on the computer where the contacts are located and address the email to myself. I put focus in the body of the message. I then open my Contacts. I navigate to each contact I want to copy over and, without actually opening the contact, I do a control c to copy it. Then I go to the open email message and hit Control v to paste it. I do as many of these as I need, then send the email to myself. When I open the email on the other computer, the message is there with each contact as a separate attachment. I think I just selected all and pasted them with Control v into my contacts. Likewise, you can open each contact attachment and, make any needed edits, and save it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook contacts issue/question

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365, Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks Madison








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moderated Re: [External] : Question about the following keystroke.

Don Mauck
 

I typically use highlighted.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Question about the following keystroke.

 

Good morning everyone,

 

 

When pressing the Jaws key and the S Key together,  It says none,   highlighted and all, which would be the best option  too set any of these options to?   


moderated Re: How to stop MS Edge from filling in my personal information for forms!

 

Go to Settings in Edge, then in the Settings Category treeview you should be already on the first tab, Profiles.

Go to where this section starts, it's a heading 2 called "Your Profile".

The first part talks about your profile, manage account and sync. After this you have      buttons for "Personal Info", "Passwords" and "Payment info". Activate each of them and turn them off if you don't want Edge to remember or fill any data.

 

 

Best regards,

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to stop MS Edge from filling in my personal information for forms!

 

I’ve looked on Google and I still can’t seem to get it. Please, can anybody help me stop Edge from taking over my forms and filling them out Edge’s way? ?

 

Usually, I muddle through, but it’s getting frustrating. I’d rather do it myself. Besides, Edge has most of it wrong.

 

Help?

 

Shirley

 


moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

aaron lane
 

OK. So I'm just now looking in to upgrading. I see that now JAWS is a subscription service for home use. I'm trying to decide how I feel about that. My initial reaction is that I would really like to just purchase once and own it. what are your thoughts about that?

On 5/31/2021 11:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Aaron,

J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version. Vispero was
rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little features
that were present in all other Jaws versions. I won't go into all the
details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the computer lingo crap, but
more knowledgeable members of the list might elaborate more. So, as Randy
suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to getting
an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws script files
that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as complicated as I
think it is.


On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Aaron,

I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running. J17
doesn't work well with Windows 10. I could be wrong, but have you tried a
newer version of Jaws? Preferably J19 or up.


Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17


Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created using HTML
& JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it is a Chrome
legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item, then lock the left
mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able to navigate to the point
in which I need to drop the item. I've tried switching to the PC cursor, but
still nothing. I can move with, shift + Alt, then arrow to the spot, but
when I then unlock the left mouse button, the item was not moved. I have
also written a Script that locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the
coordinates that I need, then I unlock the button myself. This script works
but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.





moderated Re: Question about the following keystroke.

Edward Green
 

Hi,

"HIGHLIGHTED" is typically what you want as JAWS will typically read what’s highlighted when navigating, rather than everything or nothing.

Cheers,

Ed

On 1 June 2021 15:36:09 "Albert Cutolo " <Albertc51@...> wrote:

Good morning everyone,

 

 

When pressing the Jaws key and the S Key together,  It says none,   highlighted and all, which would be the best option  too set any of these options to?   


moderated Question about the following keystroke.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good morning everyone,

 

 

When pressing the Jaws key and the S Key together,  It says none,   highlighted and all, which would be the best option  too set any of these options to?   


moderated script: sound on webpage

William Windels
 

Hello

 

I supose there is now default option in jaws but perhaps with scripts:

I want to play a sound when a particular word is on a webpage.

 

Google is not giving a answer after a first look.

 

thx alot for any ideas

 

--

Met vriendelijke groeten

William Windels

Incident Manager SWF

 


moderated Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

Mike B.
 


Hi Aaron,
 
J17 was, for lack of a better term, a throw away version.  Vispero was rewriting Jaws coding and J17 was minus some of the regular little features that were present in all other Jaws versions.  I won't go into all the details because I'm a dipshit when it comes to the computer lingo crap, but more knowledgeable members of the list might elaborate more.  So, as Randy suggested try J19, J20 or J21 as a demo and see how it goes.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

I figured that might be causing me issues. I'm going to look in to getting an upgrade. I've been reluctant, because I have a lot of Jaws script files that I would need to convert, but it's probably not as complicated as I think it is.

On 5/31/2021 4:49 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Aaron,
 
I think your biggest issue is the version of Jaws you're running.  J17 doesn't work well with Windows 10.  I could be wrong, but have you tried a newer version of Jaws?  Preferably J19 or up.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
From: aaron lane
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Drag & drop problem - JAWS17

Hello. I'm using JAWS17 in Windows10, in a game that is created using HTML & JavaScript, and the game doesn't run in a browser, but it is a Chrome legacy window. When I place my Jaws cursor on an item, then lock the left mouse button with, Jaws Key + slash, I am not able to navigate to the point in which I need to drop the item. I've tried switching to the PC cursor, but still nothing. I can move with, shift + Alt, then arrow to the spot, but when I then unlock the left mouse button, the item was not moved. I have also written a Script that locks the left mouse button, and jumps to the coordinates that I need, then I unlock the button myself. This script works but not very often. Any help would be appreciated.  


moderated Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Bill White
 

Hi, Robin. I am also using business card view for my contacts, but when I select a contact, and copy it to the clipboard I don't get a file copied to the clipboard. Instead, I get the text contents for that contact copied to the clipboard. Incidentally, I am using Outlook 2010. I'll paste below, what gets copied to my clipboard when I select a contact, by using my own contact as an example.

Bill White
E-mail: billwhite92701@att.net

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 8:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Bill, it might be a matter of your view settings for contacts versus mine. I'm using the business card view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Hi, Robin. This doesn't work for me. When I navigate to a contact and copy it using CONTROL C, then paste it into an outlook email, it pastes text into the email, not an attachment.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison,
I have done this a bit with contacts on my work computer to move them to my personal. I open a new email message on the computer where the contacts are located and address the email to myself. I put focus in the body of the message. I then open my Contacts. I navigate to each contact I want to copy over and, without actually opening the contact, I do a control c to copy it. Then I go to the open email message and hit Control v to paste it. I do as many of these as I need, then send the email to myself. When I open the email on the other computer, the message is there with each contact as a separate attachment. I think I just selected all and pasted them with Control v into my contacts. Likewise, you can open each contact attachment and, make any needed edits, and save it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook contacts issue/question

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365, Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks Madison








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moderated Happening Now: List Rules - 06/01/2021 #cal-notice

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List Rules

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The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

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**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

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moderated Re: virus prgrams

Justin Williams
 

Is c cleaner okay?

 

I've used it.

 

I don't know how good it is, but is it there.

 

I have macafee just on set and forget.

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 10:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: virus prgrams

 

If you don't mind paying, try look at sophos.

The program is not accessible but you usually configure them on their web interface. Once you do  it once, you can let it do its job.

 

You can multiple devices with one subsiptions too.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 at 08:04, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  There are good, free, ones.  Windows Defender, built in, works just fine for many people.  I use web root and while not the most accessible in terms of interface I can use it with workarounds.

Have found it reliable and warned me before I hit a phishing site.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: virus prgrams

 

Hello I am sure this has been covered before but what is the best virus program that works with jaws if it is not free that is ok if I have to use mouse keys to read the screen that is ok.

Looking for a good firewall  and spywear  and hacking pertection.

 


moderated Re: Recieving emails from the list

Joseph Hudson
 

Hi Laura, no problems receiving mail here. Perhaps messages might be going into your spam folder because there has been plenty of messages to this list.

On May 31, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Is anybody having trouble receiving emails on this list? This list usually has high traffic but lately I’m only receiving very few emails.

Laura


moderated Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Van Lant, Robin
 

Bill, it might be a matter of your view settings for contacts versus mine. I'm using the business card view.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Hi, Robin. This doesn't work for me. When I navigate to a contact and copy it using CONTROL C, then paste it into an outlook email, it pastes text into the email, not an attachment.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison,
I have done this a bit with contacts on my work computer to move them to my personal. I open a new email message on the computer where the contacts are located and address the email to myself. I put focus in the body of the message. I then open my Contacts. I navigate to each contact I want to copy over and, without actually opening the contact, I do a control c to copy it. Then I go to the open email message and hit Control v to paste it. I do as many of these as I need, then send the email to myself. When I open the email on the other computer, the message is there with each contact as a separate attachment. I think I just selected all and pasted them with Control v into my contacts. Likewise, you can open each contact attachment and, make any needed edits, and save it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook contacts issue/question

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365, Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks Madison








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