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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Gene Warner
Even if those lifetime license keys on eBay are legitimate, I seriously doubt that they are transferable, so if Malware Bytes figures out you aren't the key's original purchaser, they could invalidate it leaving you with nothing to show for your money. So no matter how tempting they might be, I would never buy one.
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Besides that, even if they never figure that out, the software still isn't properly licensed, so that would be yet another reason to stay away from those lifetime licenses on eBay. Gene...
On 9/18/2022 2:51 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
And of course everyone knows you should believe everything you hear or read on the Internet…
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Cristóbal
And of course everyone knows you should believe everything you hear or read on the Internet… I grabbed a lifetime license through NewEgg around 2011 for something like$15. I’ve installed and uninstalled that key on a few laptops since then. The only place you’ll see those keys pop up now is on eBay. Who knows if they’re from salvaged computers or even legit, but I haven’t bought one. Malwarebytes annual subscriptions are so frequently on sale, you almost have to try to pay full price. You can usually get a a license for one year’s protection for around $10and with a little more effort $9 or even less if you buy in bulk and combine with a Rakuten/CapitalOne Shopping/cash back type of deal or credit card. Jaws accessibility is pretty solid too.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 11:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
because I heard they are stealing passwords and or infro and there somewhere in search from google too saying that too sorry I don't trust it
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Re: jaws and alt text.
Mike B.
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Hi Patrick,
Have you tried a different Speech and Sound scheme?
Or, have you tried modifying one of the existing Speech and Sound
schemes?
To open the list of Speech and Sound schemes press,
Insert, Alt + S, navigate to a different scheme and press enter to
activate.
Note: when you first open the list of schemes your
current scheme is highlighted so, make note of the current scheme so you can
return to it if need be.
If you need to modify a scheme you'll have to do that in
the Settings Center.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
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From: Patrick Murphy
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 1:19 AM
Subject: jaws and alt text. i have a buffalo link station. its a nas device. it is run through a web interface. for various features on this machine, you are asked to enter a verification number in order to complete a step, such as shutting it down, saving a backup job etc. when you look at the numbers you are asked to enter, it is always a four digit number. they are shown as pictures above the entry box. jaws tells you what they are using the "alt" text assigned to the numbers. i know this, because i have inspected the code for the html page generated by the machine. as i said, there are four numbers. jaws will say "number_1" "number_2" "number_3" "number_4". when you look at the actual file being presented in the html, it will be something like "num_6.png" "num_1.png" "num_4.png" "num_7.png". so the number you have to enter is 6147. these numbers are generated randomally. so, my question is, instead of jaws saying the "alt" text which is always the same regardless of the number, can i get jaws to say the actual name of the file? sorry, i know this is complicated. the first number presented, always has the alt text as "number_1". however, the file attached can be anything from "num_0.png" to "num_9.png". if i can get the file names, then i will know what number to enter. i have tried everything. assign a label to a graphic doesn't work. i cannot alter the page, because it is generated by the machine. graphics labeller doesn't work. i cannot find any settings in the browser. the browser i am using is "brave". yes, i have tried edge, firefox, chrome etc. is there anything i am missing? something i haven't tried? thanks, patrick
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Gene Warner
AS I said before, anyone can claim anything they want, but unless they have evidence to back up their claims, it's just more noise in the ether.
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Gene... Gene...
On 9/18/2022 2:20 PM, meow meow wrote:
because I heard they are stealing passwords and or infro
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Status line command for laptop? (no home or end keys)
Daniel McGee
Hi all
Using a laptop layout without home or end keys on the keyboard, how can I access the status bar using Jaws. Want to be able to find this command to read status bar line using thunderbird. Using NVDA, the keystrokes: caps-lock, shift function key plus right arrow enable me to read the status line in thunderbird. Is there such a command using Jaws but without home or end buttons on the keyboard? cheers regards Daniel
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Gene Warner
Anyone can say that they trust or don't trust one program over another, but without any arguments or evidence to back up your opinion, it's just noise in the ether.
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Gene...
On 9/18/2022 1:55 PM, meow meow wrote:
I would not trust Malware
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
meow meow
because I heard they are stealing passwords and or infro
and there somewhere in search from google too saying
that too
sorry I don't trust it
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why is this? On 9/18/2022 12:55 PM, meow meow wrote:
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
meow meow
I would not trust Malware
From: Life in Six Dots
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes I have been using both Malwarebytes Premium and Privacy VPN the past few months. Both are very accessible with JAWS.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2022 05:47 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Has anyone noticed the improved accessibility in the latest version of Malware Bytes? Much improved. Tom!
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Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening
Mike Pietruk
Lori Lynn
This is a very much personal thing; and I agree totally as to how you now handle the use of the dictionary. And I pretty much do as you have done for the last couple of decades. It's greatly simplified my pc life.
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Gene Warner
I just looked through their site and it doesn't look like there is. All I could find were prices quoted at monthly rates that were billed anualy, or the way I look at it, annual subscriptions.
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Normally I will not do software subscriptions, but I make an exception for antivirus programs because they needs constant updating of at least the signature database, but $60 per year is a bit much so I will just use their free version and continue to use Windows Security. Gene...
On 9/18/2022 7:05 AM, Cornelius wrote:
Is there still a lifetime version for Malwarebyte premium?
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Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening
Soronel Haetir
My dictionary entries are pretty stable at this point and nearly all
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computer programming related, turning almost words like "strcpy" into "stir copy" and "strncpy' into "stir n copy', without the dictionary replacements they sound maddeningly similar. Been using jaws for about 15 years.
On 9/17/22, Mike Pietruk <pietruk@...> wrote:
Soronel --
Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@...
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Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening
Lori Lynn
I use to be one of those people who obsessed about mispronounced words. I added several hundred words to the JAWS dictionary. The result was crashing my computer. After multiple fixes and replaced hard drives I made the decision that I could live with the way JAWS pronounces words. I've been told many times over the last 22 years that my problem won't happen again. Sorry, but I'm sticking with my decision to avoid the dictionary at all costs.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 9:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening Mike, This is a reasonable approach to the pronunciation conundrum. Still, I think some cautions are in order. If we hear a word or someone's name for the first time while using JAWS and JAWS mispronounces it, we may carry that mispronunciation in our heads. If we later got into a conversation and mispronounced that word or name, we could feel foolish on being corrected. I wish I could come up with better examples, but the one that comes to mind is the name Peter Davison, whose obituary appeared the other day. I'd known nothing about him, but he was a George Orwell scholar, which is why the obit interested me. My synthesizer pronounces the man's name as Davveson, which is surely wrong, but I didn't realize that until I checked the spelling. I'm sure the correct pronunciation is more like Davidson, except without the second d. An analogy might be to braille, where it used to be correct to run the symbols for the words "for" and "the" together as if they were one word. It saved space. However, as the revised code has since recognized, this practice caused some blind children to think the two words were also joined together in print. It's a simple, fast task to add correct pronunciations to the JAWS dictionary. Only occasionally do I have to play with possibilities to arrive at a good pronunciation, such as by capitalizing the first letter of a second syllable, etc. For me, the problem with the JAWS dictionary is what Soronel mentioned: its limited capacity. In my case, too many entries somehow interferes with how JAWS reads text on webpages in "say all." Vispero's tech support has verified the problem on my system, but no one else seems to be reporting it. either way, there is a limit. As JAWS users, we process information in some ways that are different from the ways sighted people do. I think it's important to keep it in mind. The JAWS dictionary can help make sure that we communicate fluently and comfortably in the mainstream. -- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fadrianspratt.com%2Fbook%2F&;data=05%7C01%7C%7C78a0a72b3e9b4549945e08da998392e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637991087625157771%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kyqtw4QI7R9yRxvrAn%2FNWqgHtgCqLZIj8SgzG4d4E0M%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening John You say it nicely. Let me add this: When I started with screen readers in the 1980s, I was picky to the point that names and places and words had to be pronounced correctly. Soon, I began to realize that it's not important how a name is pronounced but do I recognize what the speech synthesizer is saying. If I understand it, it doesn't need correction. And Jaws makes it easy to check spellings by letter if needed. And if I need to learn the spelling of something for later use, I can always copy it to the clipboard for later use and review.
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Adrian Spratt
Mike,
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This is a reasonable approach to the pronunciation conundrum. Still, I think some cautions are in order. If we hear a word or someone's name for the first time while using JAWS and JAWS mispronounces it, we may carry that mispronunciation in our heads. If we later got into a conversation and mispronounced that word or name, we could feel foolish on being corrected. I wish I could come up with better examples, but the one that comes to mind is the name Peter Davison, whose obituary appeared the other day. I'd known nothing about him, but he was a George Orwell scholar, which is why the obit interested me. My synthesizer pronounces the man's name as Davveson, which is surely wrong, but I didn't realize that until I checked the spelling. I'm sure the correct pronunciation is more like Davidson, except without the second d. An analogy might be to braille, where it used to be correct to run the symbols for the words "for" and "the" together as if they were one word. It saved space. However, as the revised code has since recognized, this practice caused some blind children to think the two words were also joined together in print. It's a simple, fast task to add correct pronunciations to the JAWS dictionary. Only occasionally do I have to play with possibilities to arrive at a good pronunciation, such as by capitalizing the first letter of a second syllable, etc. For me, the problem with the JAWS dictionary is what Soronel mentioned: its limited capacity. In my case, too many entries somehow interferes with how JAWS reads text on webpages in "say all." Vispero's tech support has verified the problem on my system, but no one else seems to be reporting it. either way, there is a limit. As JAWS users, we process information in some ways that are different from the ways sighted people do. I think it's important to keep it in mind. The JAWS dictionary can help make sure that we communicate fluently and comfortably in the mainstream. -- My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions and, for qualified readers in the US, at the National Library Service/BARD. Go to: https://adrianspratt.com/book/
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening John You say it nicely. Let me add this: When I started with screen readers in the 1980s, I was picky to the point that names and places and words had to be pronounced correctly. Soon, I began to realize that it's not important how a name is pronounced but do I recognize what the speech synthesizer is saying. If I understand it, it doesn't need correction. And Jaws makes it easy to check spellings by letter if needed. And if I need to learn the spelling of something for later use, I can always copy it to the clipboard for later use and review.
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Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening
Mike Pietruk
John
You say it nicely. Let me add this: When I started with screen readers in the 1980s, I was picky to the point that names and places and words had to be pronounced correctly. Soon, I began to realize that it's not important how a name is pronounced but do I recognize what the speech synthesizer is saying. If I understand it, it doesn't need correction. And Jaws makes it easy to check spellings by letter if needed. And if I need to learn the spelling of something for later use, I can always copy it to the clipboard for later use and review.
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Cornelius
Is there still a lifetime version for Malwarebyte premium?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots
Sent: Sunday, 18 September, 2022 5:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
I have been using both Malwarebytes Premium and Privacy VPN the past few months. Both are very accessible with JAWS.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Has anyone noticed the improved accessibility in the latest version of Malware Bytes? Much improved. Tom!
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jaws and alt text.
Patrick Murphy
hi, this is an unusual one (i think).
i have a buffalo link station. its a nas device. it is run through a web interface. for various features on this machine, you are asked to enter a verification number in order to complete a step, such as shutting it down, saving a backup job etc. when you look at the numbers you are asked to enter, it is always a four digit number. they are shown as pictures above the entry box. jaws tells you what they are using the "alt" text assigned to the numbers. i know this, because i have inspected the code for the html page generated by the machine. as i said, there are four numbers. jaws will say "number_1" "number_2" "number_3" "number_4". when you look at the actual file being presented in the html, it will be something like "num_6.png" "num_1.png" "num_4.png" "num_7.png". so the number you have to enter is 6147. these numbers are generated randomally. so, my question is, instead of jaws saying the "alt" text which is always the same regardless of the number, can i get jaws to say the actual name of the file? sorry, i know this is complicated. the first number presented, always has the alt text as "number_1". however, the file attached can be anything from "num_0.png" to "num_9.png". if i can get the file names, then i will know what number to enter. i have tried everything. assign a label to a graphic doesn't work. i cannot alter the page, because it is generated by the machine. graphics labeller doesn't work. i cannot find any settings in the browser. the browser i am using is "brave". yes, i have tried edge, firefox, chrome etc. is there anything i am missing? something i haven't tried? thanks, patrick
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Re: Managing the cognitive load of listening
John cooper
Have to agree with most. I’ve been using JAWS for around thee 25’ish years and I’ve really only added names into the dictionary, living in Scotland this can be a necessary action. I find, on the whole, that JAWS is no great annoyance . I think not having it would be worse!
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On 18 Sep 2022, at 00:40, Mark <mweiler@...> wrote:
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Life in Six Dots
I have been using both Malwarebytes Premium and Privacy VPN the past few months. Both are very accessible with JAWS.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2022 05:47 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Has anyone noticed the improved accessibility in the latest version of Malware Bytes? Much improved. Tom!
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Re: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Cornelius
I have long uninstall Malwarebytes since it becomes less accessible. But thanks for the good news, I may reconsider using it to treat an infected machine in the future.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, 18 September, 2022 12:47 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Latest version of Malware Bytes
Has anyone noticed the improved accessibility in the latest version of Malware Bytes? Much improved. Tom!
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