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Re: waterfox with jaws

JM Casey
 

I'm not sure actually. I only saw a 64-bit version. If it doesn't work,
you'll know when you try to install it; you'll get an error and it will
exit, most likely.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

Does Waterfox work with 32 bit. That's what my computer is. I've
downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@...> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical
to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical
about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper
updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox.
It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn
well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of
junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the
interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing
resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked it into the
Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to
Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when
waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with
Jaws 16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open
options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to
List Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the
various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings
for each tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1
time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list
of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don't work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page,
and read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version
of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short
cut on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet
Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there
that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of
late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: waterfox with jaws

Mike Rogers
 

Does Waterfox work with 32 bit. That's what my computer is. I've downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@...> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked it into the Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when
waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: waterfox with jaws

JM Casey
 

What happened when you tried to download?

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

i can't even get it to download. i spent about 30 minutes trying everything last night and never could get it to download.

On 2/11/2019 9:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.
 
You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it? 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual 
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this 
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working 
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the 
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it 
will not hang.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List 
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various 
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each 
tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, 
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time 
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of 
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.
 
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws
 
do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. 
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?
 
 
 
Hi Liz!
 
The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:
 
Waterfox.
 
It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it 
works tons better.
 
It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.
 
JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is 
very secure.
A new update just came out.
 
Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.
 
It has a spell check built in and everything.
 
It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and 
read the article.
 
The reading mode is built in.
 
You just press:
 
Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.
 
With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.
 
You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.
 
What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of 
Waterfox.
 
I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, 
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you 
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut 
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Take care, Liz.
 
David Moore
 
 
 
Sent from Mail
for Windows 10
 
 
 
 
 
From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.
 
 
 
 
 
I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in 
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer 
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS 
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have 
heard mixed views about fire fox.
 
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
 
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: waterfox with jaws

dennis
 

i can't even get it to download. i spent about 30 minutes trying everything last night and never could get it to download.

On 2/11/2019 9:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:
I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it? 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:

the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual 
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this 
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working 
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the 
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it 
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List 
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various 
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each 
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, 
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time 
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of 
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. 
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it 
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is 
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and 
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of 
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, 
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you 
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut 
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in 
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer 
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS 
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have 
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: waterfox with jaws

JM Casey
 

If you use alt-b to access bookmarks, you will not have a hanging issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: February 11, 2019 3:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it will not hang.

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16.
When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options. Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM Casey
 

That might be unavoidable. I have had similar experiences with other programmes. I guess, try not to change screen-readers during a single browsing session. It seems like waterfox (and I believe firefox does this too) runs some kind of detection routine at startup to see if you have a screen-reader running. I don't know what exactly happens when this routine executes, but re-starting (either the browser or screen-reader) does seem to have an effect.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: February 11, 2019 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

the problem is if i change screen readers while waterfox is running and go back to jaws the virtual pc cursor functions will stop working until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
i was trying jawsand n v d a to see if they would work with waterfox.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.



Hi!

I am using it well on my 64 bit Windows 10 machine.

I wish I knew why it is not working for you.

Are you pressing enter on the .EXE Waterfox file?

It takes a minute for the browser to come up.

If you press Alt+T and go to options, you can change your settings.

Remember, it does take a minute or more to come up, and for the first time, it
will not show a home page.

You have to type in the URL for your home pages in the Settings.

Take care!

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: netbat66
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





it didn't work with my 64bit windows 7 either.





-----Original Message-----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:55 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.













Well, I tried the portable version of Waterfox, and it is completely unusable

on my 32 bit Windows 7 desktop. But at least it was easy to get rid of. I

just chucked it into the recycle bin.









Gerald

















On 2/10/2019 4:27 PM, David Moore wrote:





Hi!



The advantages that I like with a portable version of a program, is that it

does not leave residue on your computer that is not part of the program.



For example, browsers leave cookies on your computer, which are tiny apps that

make web sites work better. Also, when you install a program, remnants of the

program are scattered around in folders that you do not think about.



Installing a program puts it right on your hard drive, and it leaves a

footprint on your computer.



With the portable program, all bookmarks, browsing history, search history, and

all of that, is saved right in the unzipped portable folder.



You know that everything that browser does, is right in the unzipped folder

instead of on your computer somewhere, on the hard drive.



Also, you can put a portable program on a external storage drive, and just

press enter on the .exe file on that storage device to launch the program.



I keep an SD card on my computer, and I put the portable programs on the SD

card, and even put shortcuts on the desktop, because I leave the SD card in the

computer.



That way, you are not taking up space on your hard drive’s storage at all.



I use this little computer with a 28 Gig SSD drive, so space is a minimum on

this little gym.



You can also put the portable program on a USB pin drive, and carry it to where

ever you go, and you can launch it on any computer anywhere.



That is the biggest reason why I like portable programs. That is why NVDA is so

awesome, because you can put it on a pin drive, and take it where ever you go,

and use NVDA on any computer.



That is the power of portable programs.



Have a great one, and please ask any questions.



David Moore







Sent from Mail

for Windows 10











From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:20 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.











Just curious, but what advantage is there in running this portable version over

one you install?















From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:04 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.











Hi Liz!



The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:



Waterfox.



It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons

better.



It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.



JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.

A new update just came out.



Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.



It has a spell check built in and everything.



It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the

article.



The reading mode is built in.



You just press:



Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.



With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.



You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.



What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.



I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do

not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version

on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can

with installed programs.



I hope this helps.



Take care, Liz.



David Moore







Sent from Mail

for Windows 10











From: Liz and Hope

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.











I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for

vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what

is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in

the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.



Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope



HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: waterfox with jaws

JM Casey
 

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked it into the Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when
waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: some basic chrome naviagation questions

Chris Hill
 

Ctrl-t is the command you want for new tab.  It may or may not say anything.  alt-f b will get you to bookmarks as fast as you can in chrome.


Good luck.

On 2/11/2019 05:19, Jed Barton wrote:
Hey guys,

So i just downloaded Chrome. Wow, this thing is fast. A few
navigation questions. What's the best way to open a new tab, i think
it's control T but it didn't seem to say anything. Also, what's the
best way to get to my bookmarks? I did an import from firefox. I'm
gonna take chrome for atest drive to see how i like it. Any other
suggestions for setup?

Thanks,
Jed
Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Go to dropbox.com and log in and you should beable to move it there

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello George:

The Dropbox folder cannot be moved in the way you suggest. I have tried your
suggestion but, when I did, I got a message that the folder could not be
moved, because it is being used by another program.

According to information I have read on the web, the dropbox folder can only
be moved in a specific way, within the dropbox program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox


Just highlite / select dropbox folder and control x to cut
Now open the f drive and past with control v

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 11, 2019 4:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and
press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the
"GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can
then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello George:

The Dropbox folder cannot be moved in the way you suggest. I have tried your suggestion but, when I did, I got a message that the folder could not be moved, because it is being used by another program.

According to information I have read on the web, the dropbox folder can only be moved in a specific way, within the dropbox program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox


Just highlite / select dropbox folder and control x to cut
Now open the f drive and past with control v

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 11, 2019 4:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: waterfox with jaws

Gerald Levy
 


I don't know what's going on, but when I opened the portable version of Waterfox, I found nothing labeled "option" on the tools menu, only an item labeled "file options" that did not contain any list box like the one Mike D described.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 8:09 AM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi, how are you? please keep us posted as to how things are going for you as you use waterfox!  If i'm using windows 10 is everything the same as it relates to how things look in terms of key strokes to get things done or configuring waterfox?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike B."
Sent: Feb 10, 2019 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16.  When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.  Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



                                                                Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: Problem with Bitlocker

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) <steven.hicks@...>
 

Hi,

I Have this issue as well, there doesn't seem to be a way to keep the focus in the password box and I have tried several times.
Not sure but I seem to remember tryin git with narrator and I had similar issues.
Not sure if FreedomScientific will be able to help with this?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: 31 January 2019 11:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Bitlocker

I think it only happens under Windows 10. I haven't found a way to get
around this using JAWS yet.

2019-01-28 17:23 GMT+01:00, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
<Robin_Van_Lant@...>:
Hmmm... I have bitlocker for my hard drive at work and do not have focus
issues, but maybe it's different for just a partition.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem with Bitlocker

Hi all,
does anybody know if it is possible to unlock a Bitlocker partition with
JAWS 2018? Whenever I want to open such a partition the focus jumps into the
password field for a moment but immediately jumps to another element of the
screen. It seems to be impossible to enter a password there so I have to use
NVDA or Narrator to do this right now.

Best regards
Denis

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Re: waterfox with jaws

David Ingram
 

Hi, how are you? please keep us posted as to how things are going for you as you use waterfox!  If i'm using windows 10 is everything the same as it relates to how things look in terms of key strokes to get things done or configuring waterfox?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike B."
Sent: Feb 10, 2019 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16.  When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.  Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



                                                                Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Just highlite / select dropbox folder and control x to cut
Now open the f drive and past with control v

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 11, 2019 4:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR" menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: waterfox with jaws

Gerald Levy
 

I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald

On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a)
when  waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.  Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: some basic chrome naviagation questions

Gerald Levy
 

Will Chrome work with JAWS 16?  Or does it only work with later versions of JAWS?


Gerald

On 2/11/2019 6:19 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
Hey guys,

So i just downloaded Chrome. Wow, this thing is fast. A few
navigation questions. What's the best way to open a new tab, i think
it's control T but it didn't seem to say anything. Also, what's the
best way to get to my bookmarks? I did an import from firefox. I'm
gonna take chrome for atest drive to see how i like it. Any other
suggestions for setup?

Thanks,
Jed
some basic chrome naviagation questions

Jed Barton
 

Hey guys,

So i just downloaded Chrome. Wow, this thing is fast. A few
navigation questions. What's the best way to open a new tab, i think
it's control T but it didn't seem to say anything. Also, what's the
best way to get to my bookmarks? I did an import from firefox. I'm
gonna take chrome for atest drive to see how i like it. Any other
suggestions for setup?

Thanks,
Jed
Re: Focus Blue 40 Braille display users group?

Joseph Hudson
 

Hi Robert, I will write him and see if I get anything. And post here whenever I get subscription info.

On Feb 10, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Robert stigile <rnstechnology@...> wrote:

Hello joseph
I have tried the email twice that you provided to get info on the focus 40 list and the email bounces back to me


Robert Stigile
818-381-9568


On Feb 9, 2019, at 5:22 PM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hello Raymond, I know there's what exist. But I don't have the subscription info. But I do know the owner's email address. His name is Kliff and he should be able to get you their info that you need. His email address will be below for you.

KliphnSharrie Miller <millerkru.inc@...>
On Feb 9, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Raymond Bishup <rtbishop@...> wrote:

Does a Braille display group exist and if so, what is its signup email address? Thanks!




Raymond Bishop, NV9B
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question on cut and paste with jaws

trinh martin
 

Hi

I have a question.  Lately when I cut or copy something from the internet and try to paste it over to wordpad, it doesn't seem to take it at all.  I think my jaws is jaws 18 and often I am using internet explorer.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks
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