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old jaws audio tutorials

amir
 

hi,i am looking for anyone who has the old jaws basic training as well
as other jaws tutorial in audio, such as jaws 4.5 training, I think
eric did it or other jaws training especially officially done by
freedom. I want to collect it for nostalgic purposes.
thanks much!


Re: a big cursor problem

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Go to your desktop and press control plus spacebar and you will hear not selected

Now press shift plus f10 and choose display in the menu

 

Now look in there for screen resolution and you need to have 1200 /800 or less for jaws to work well

 

Test a couple of those choices to you find the one that works best.

 

hth

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: November 19, 2018 4:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem

 

Hi Jed,

It's possibly a screen resolution issue, and I can't remember exactly where the setting is but it will be under "Display", and try lowering the resolution quite substantially.

Failing that though, if you know the cursor is jumping up a few rows, can't you just DownArrow a few times until it's back where it needs to be?

Matthew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: 18 November 2018 20:46
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: a big cursor problem

 

Hey guys,

 

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.

Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.

I use a program to program radios called contact manager.  The long and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the radio.  I can access the zones and the channels.  I can get to the zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add.  The way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click.  Now when i route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen, the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it highlights the wrong channel.  This never use to happen on my other laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the same version  of jaws on both machines, both running win 10.  I can't think of anything that would make this happen.

Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several places, it highlighted the correct channel.  Any ideas here guys?

 

Thanks,

Jed

 

 

 


Re: JAWS Tablet Compatibility

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Colby,

I don't have any experience using tablets with JAWS. However, as far as I'm aware, JAWS will only work on X86/X64-based systems and not, for example, on ARM processors. Specs for these sorts of systems are pretty much the same as specs for regular laptops.

So in a nutshell, go with a tablet that has an Intel Core something in it (I3, I5, I7, M3 or something like that), and a few GB of RAM, and you should be OK.

In the worst case, install JAWS right after you buy the tablet, and if it doesn't work return the tablet in the return window.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kolby
Sent: 17 November 2018 01:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Tablet Compatibility

 

Hello,
I am looking to purchase a tablet computer to replace my old iPad. I would like to use something that comes with a keyboard if possible but also am curious as to how people are finding using JAWS with tablets without keyboards. I would like to know which tablets work best with JAWS 2019 and what technical specifications I should be looking for the device to have for the fastest performance.
Thank you,
Kolby


Re: surveying about Flexible Web use

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

There is another Chrome add-in, Mercury Reader, which produces a nice reader view.  I don’t know about GreaseMonkey, so I’ll have to look into that. Your conclusions regarding Flexible Web are the same as mine so far.

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: surveying about Flexible Web use

 

Hi Dean,

I find the name "Flexible Web" rather ironic as the reason why I don't use it is because it is not "Flexible" enough! I did use it very extensively when it was launched, but got fed up with rules not applying between browsers, and also I found I was having to create dozens of rules when only one would suffice if only I had a bit more control over how the feature worked.

For example, I want to be able to create a rule that says: on all web pages, in all browsers, suppress any frame with the word "google" in its URL. Thus suppressing all Google ads in one rule. This is not possible.

I'm a Chrome user and am just waiting for it to implement a reader mode. In the meantime I know about the Greesemonkey add-on and, when I get enough time to sit and play, I will get that working. Surely it will be more effective than Flexible Web.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: 17 November 2018 21:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: surveying about Flexible Web use

 

I’m curious, if people use Flexible Web, where they use it.  I used it a bit when the feature was first available, but lost interest because of what I perceived to be the effort involved and the little gain.  Mostly, I was using it on newspaper sites, and with Firefox and Edge containing Reading Views, and thanks to the Mercury Reader add-on for Chrome, so does it, those browser-based features seem to obviate the need for Flexible Web.  But am I misanalyzing this? 

 

Dean

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 


Re: a big cursor problem

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Jed,

It's possibly a screen resolution issue, and I can't remember exactly where the setting is but it will be under "Display", and try lowering the resolution quite substantially.

Failing that though, if you know the cursor is jumping up a few rows, can't you just DownArrow a few times until it's back where it needs to be?

Matthew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: 18 November 2018 20:46
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: a big cursor problem

 

Hey guys,

 

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.

Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.

I use a program to program radios called contact manager.  The long and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the radio.  I can access the zones and the channels.  I can get to the zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add.  The way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click.  Now when i route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen, the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it highlights the wrong channel.  This never use to happen on my other laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the same version  of jaws on both machines, both running win 10.  I can't think of anything that would make this happen.

Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several places, it highlighted the correct channel.  Any ideas here guys?

 

Thanks,

Jed

 

 


Re: surveying about Flexible Web use

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Dean,

I find the name "Flexible Web" rather ironic as the reason why I don't use it is because it is not "Flexible" enough! I did use it very extensively when it was launched, but got fed up with rules not applying between browsers, and also I found I was having to create dozens of rules when only one would suffice if only I had a bit more control over how the feature worked.

For example, I want to be able to create a rule that says: on all web pages, in all browsers, suppress any frame with the word "google" in its URL. Thus suppressing all Google ads in one rule. This is not possible.

I'm a Chrome user and am just waiting for it to implement a reader mode. In the meantime I know about the Greesemonkey add-on and, when I get enough time to sit and play, I will get that working. Surely it will be more effective than Flexible Web.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: 17 November 2018 21:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: surveying about Flexible Web use

 

I’m curious, if people use Flexible Web, where they use it.  I used it a bit when the feature was first available, but lost interest because of what I perceived to be the effort involved and the little gain.  Mostly, I was using it on newspaper sites, and with Firefox and Edge containing Reading Views, and thanks to the Mercury Reader add-on for Chrome, so does it, those browser-based features seem to obviate the need for Flexible Web.  But am I misanalyzing this? 

 

Dean

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 


Re: Where's the Dvorak keyboard in Windows 10?

David Bailes
 

Hi Lee,
to add a new keyboard layout using version 1803 of Windows 10:
1. Go to the Region and language settings in the settings app. One way of doing this is to open the start menu, type some or all of region and language settings, and press Enter.
2. If you then tab through the settings, then after the add a language button, there's a list of installed languages. There may well be only a single language, English (United States). I'm assuming that you want a keyboard layout for the English United states language. Move to this item in the list and press Enter or Spacebar to expand the item.
3. Tab to the options button and press it. You are taken to a page for that language.
4. On this page, there is an add a keyboard button, followed by a list of installed keyboard layouts for the language.
5. Press the add a keyboard button. A pop-up list of keyboard layouts opens.
6. Arrow down this list till you find the keyboard layout you want, and press Enter. This keyboard layout has now been added to the keyboard layouts available to you.
7. You can now switch between keyboard layouts using the windows key + spacebar.

David.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 08:36 PM, Lee Maschmeyer wrote:
Hi folks,

In Windows 7 and before I always found the Dvorak keyboard in Control
Panel in something like Languages or Keyboard or something loosely
related to that. But in Windows 10 the search boxes don't find it.
Anybody know where it's hidden now?

Thanks,

--

Lee Maschmeyer

"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to
others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what
you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."
--Lewis Carroll


Re: question about best practices for note-taking and retreival

Ari Damoulakis
 

Hi Amy
I'm not sure how well the Windows version of this app works, the
iPhone version used to work ok-ish, and now does Siri, but try
Evernote for Windows.
www.evernote.com
Ari

On 11/18/18, Amy Bower <abower@whoi.edu> wrote:
Hi - In my new job, I attend tons of meetings, have to take loads of notes,
and from those notes, keep an active list of action items. There are many
topics to keep track of, and when it gets real busy, I can lose track of
everything on my plate. Wondering how other professionals deal with this
kind of working situation. What I do now is keep several MS Word documents
as notebooks. Each time I attend a meeting, I open the appropriate Word
file, enter a new heading (easy to search for later with navigation quick
keys) and then start taking notes. If something comes up that I need to get
onto my to-do list, I put 3 asterisks there so I can search quickly for
those items later, and transfer them to my to-do list. I'm finding though
that when it gets busy, I don't always go back to the Word file and pull
those to-do items out and add them to my task list (in Outlook).
I messed around this afternoon with OneNote, but didn't find it very user
friendly with Jaws. Maybe I just don't know how to use it well. I've used it
in the past with the OneNote Blind scripts, but found them problematic after
a while and switched to the Word file notebook system above.
Any other apps or ideas for doing this kind of work with Jaws? Needs to be
efficient and easy to learn.
Thanks.
-Amy





Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

Stan Holdeman
 

In my Outlook control 2 goes to calender and control 3 to contacts.

 

Did you mis-speak or do I have a strange copy of Outlook?

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

Hi Alison,

 

To expand on this post, Control+1 goes to Email, Control+2 to contacts and Control+3 to calendar from wherever you are in Outlook.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: 01 November 2018 09:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

Thank you very much; this is exactly what I needed to know, that is, how to return to my e-mails.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 October 2018 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

Allison,

Do you mean that you want to return to Mail from Calendar?  If this is the case, then Control 1 will take you back to your inbox.  Also, Control Shift I will take you to the Inbox from wherever you are in Outlook. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; 'JFWList' <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

When in Calendar, is there any way of exiting without exiting Outlook?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 October 2018 16:04
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

Using latest 1803 version, Jaws 2019 and MS office 2016, what is the most efficient and Jaws friendly way to search the calendar for a past appointment? Used to do this on Office 2010 and have not since updating to Office 2016 but old way does not produce the same results. Googled this but did not find any good answered so before doing more advanced searches figured I’d check with the list.

 

Al

 



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Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Alison,

 

To expand on this post, Control+1 goes to Email, Control+2 to contacts and Control+3 to calendar from wherever you are in Outlook.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: 01 November 2018 09:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

Thank you very much; this is exactly what I needed to know, that is, how to return to my e-mails.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 October 2018 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

Allison,

Do you mean that you want to return to Mail from Calendar?  If this is the case, then Control 1 will take you back to your inbox.  Also, Control Shift I will take you to the Inbox from wherever you are in Outlook. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; 'JFWList' <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

When in Calendar, is there any way of exiting without exiting Outlook?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 October 2018 16:04
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar

 

Using latest 1803 version, Jaws 2019 and MS office 2016, what is the most efficient and Jaws friendly way to search the calendar for a past appointment? Used to do this on Office 2010 and have not since updating to Office 2016 but old way does not produce the same results. Googled this but did not find any good answered so before doing more advanced searches figured I’d check with the list.

 

Al

 



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Re: having trouble installing a program

 

All you have to do it right click the installer file and select run as administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 7:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having trouble installing a program

are you running the setup as administrator?
have you tried re downloading the program and installing it again?
maybe the file is corrupted.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:00 PM
To: main
Subject: having trouble installing a program

Hey guys,

Man, i just can't win. Trying to install m3 direct cut. I can't even
get through the install. It keeps telling me that it can't creatte
the path specified. It keeps saying access is denied. I'm excepting
the default of program files (x86), and then it creates a folder. Any
ideas?


Re: a big cursor problem

 

I doubt that is a Jaws issue if it worked before, maybe something to do with the hardware on the two different laptops.
I, for example, use Roboform as a password manager. On all my desktops at work and my old laptop the Roboform menu which I access from the system tray is read just fine. But on my new laptop which has a 4K display Jaws only reads the first letter of each menu item and I have to do a page refresh and a say line for Jaws to read the menu item I am on. A small thing which is annoying and only happens on this one laptop.
Have you tried to use the Jaws touch cursor to see if that helps?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem

this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@gmail.com> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed







Re: How do I get to the Status Bar in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019?

 

Hi Richard,

 

And since in Windows and Office there are always numerous ways to skin a cat, you can always just use the keyboard shortcut for Wordcount/statistics, Control+Shift+G.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get to the Status Bar in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019?

 

Richard,

F6 works for me too, but Word Count may not show up if it wasn’t checked after getting to the Status Bar settings with F6 and then doing shift+f10 to bring up the context menu and checking things like Word count, column, (which I find helpful as it tells you how far across the line you are, etc.

 

If you cannot get there with f6, alt+r then w will give you the word count, or it should anyway.

 

Richard T.

 

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get to the Status Bar in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019?

 

F6 works for me in current Microsoft Word for Office 365 with JAWS 2019. Alternatively, you can use Insert+Numpad-3 to read the status line.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get to the Status Bar in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019?

 

Hi!

 

I seem to remember that pressing F6 would cycle me around the ribbon, document pane, status bar and so on.  Now, when I press F6 all I hear is “document pane.”  I want to get to the status bar so I can check on some statistics (e.g., number of words) in my document.  How do I get there?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

 

Is it because of NVDA that you always put replies at the end of a message? I rarely ever read your messages because I typically don't feel like going through all the previous messages in the thread to see where you started writing.

Also, and just to point out that I'm deliberately sarcastic here, if NVDA never fails why are you on a Jaws list?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

 

 


On Nov 17, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

 

hi.

 


Absolutely right!

A piece of crap...

 

More and more confusion of installations that do not work and always with system issues support.

Sorry but I have to say:
Nvda never fails.
cheers.

 

Às 15:10 de 17/11/2018, Richard Turner escreveu:

In my very humble but opinionated opinion, Jaws 2019 is buggy as hell.  I’ve gone back to using 2018 and will wait for the update to 2019 to see if they fix anything.

I’ve mentioned some of the issues I’ve had on this list, so won’t waste anyones time rehashing them.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
Importance: High

 

Hello all,

     Just now, I found that JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word won’t work together nicely in some aspects. When I’m reading a document, of my own making, JAWS misses some words at times and repeats others—almost as if it’s wrapping up a few phrases/words. I have the document maximized when I’m reading with “say all.” Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It doesn’t happen with JAWS 2018 as I’ve checked.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção...

The new upgrade either going to be in early DECEMBER or first week of January. 

This year Freedom or Vispero™ will add new feature to their Jaws or ZT along with the update instead of adding new feature during SMA release. 

 


Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Exactly, this happened a lot or maybe I should say it happened almost always in Windows 7 but it's not an issue in Windows 10. That is why I asked if this was Windows 7 or Windows 10. Windows 10 almost never crashes and Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 crash very rarely. Of course there is the little problem that in Windows 10 there are a number of other accessibility issues including greatly reduced usefulness of the Jaws cursor, but strictly when it comes to how stabil it is I have no complaints.

I wouldn't hold my breath that anything will change with respect to this issue of Jaws/Excel in Windows 7 given that Windows 7 is very much on the backburner these days.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Haven’t noticed with windows 10. 

 


On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:58, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

I am using Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Do you use Windows 7 or Windows 10?

This used to happen a lot to me under Windows 7, Windows 10 rarely ever crashes any more and Jaws under Windows 10 while offering reduced accessibility for many legacy applications I use rarely ever crashes, either.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 with Excel 2016.  Every time I exit Excel (alt+F4) after saving my workbook (Controls), both Excel and JAWS crash.  I do not know which crashes first, if that matters.  JAWS automatically restarts.  Excel comes up with the dialogue box saying that the program has stopped working and asks me if I would like to restart the program.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: retaining old copy of jaws

 

Well, I for one have few issues with Jaws 2019. I am on the private beta list as well and even found that throughout the beta cycle and before the first public beta came out Jaws 2019 worked quite well. Yes, for a while there was no automatic feedback in the Windows 10 Calculator and there were of course some other issues, but I have already removed Jaws 2018 from most of my computers.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: retaining old copy of jaws

Well, many people's experience with Jaws 2019 seems to confirm this quite clearly.
This is one of the many things about these huge conglomerates buying up companies and insisting on deadlines for new releases that truly ticks me off. They could not care less about their customers. Atleast they recognize it is a good idea to keep a previous working version around.
We no longer have any real competition in the screen reader market, so they don't have to be concerned. Too many jobs now depend on Jaws scripts so one cannot easily switch to NVDA or Dolphin and be productive, though I'm not sure how productive people can be when they have to spend so much time dealing with buggy new releases only to have to go back to the previous release to get anything done.

I'm done complaining for today.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: retaining old copy of jaws

I guess being a newbee with Jaws I was quite surprised when I was told by Jaws support that it was a good idea to keep a earlier version of Jaws when installing the newest version as the new version may have issues. I know that is always a possibility with new releases but they made it seem that new releases of Jaws were always quite buggy.


Re: having trouble installing a program

netbat66
 

are you running the setup as administrator?
have you tried re downloading the program and installing it again?
maybe the file is corrupted.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:00 PM
To: main
Subject: having trouble installing a program

Hey guys,

Man, i just can't win. Trying to install m3 direct cut. I can't even
get through the install. It keeps telling me that it can't creatte
the path specified. It keeps saying access is denied. I'm excepting
the default of program files (x86), and then it creates a folder. Any
ideas?


Re: a big cursor problem

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

nothing is obvious here, and from what i can tell it looks the same.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Can you compare your JAWS quick settings (insert+v)
setting-by-setting to be sure everything is set the same way on both
computers?
At 08:06 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Nope, it's not the touch pad, cause i'm using an external keyboard.
Any other ideas, this just doesn't make any sense. Could it be a
repair issue?
Nothing is obvious at all. The window is maximized as well.

On 11/18/18, Tim Ford <ttford@gmail.com> wrote:
This may be a long shot, but if your new laptop has a touchpad, you may
be
grazing it when you do that keystroke combination. This happened to me
until I turned off the touchpad.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



Hi Jed,



Did you make sure that the window is maximized?

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of
spending a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I
saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jed Barton <mailto:jedbarton@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@gmail.com> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally
never
use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in
the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when
i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed

















Re: a big cursor problem

Ann Byrne
 

Can you compare your JAWS quick settings (insert+v) setting-by-setting to be sure everything is set the same way on both computers?

At 08:06 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Nope, it's not the touch pad, cause i'm using an external keyboard.
Any other ideas, this just doesn't make any sense. Could it be a
repair issue?
Nothing is obvious at all. The window is maximized as well.

On 11/18/18, Tim Ford <ttford@gmail.com> wrote:
This may be a long shot, but if your new laptop has a touchpad, you may be
grazing it when you do that keystroke combination. This happened to me
until I turned off the touchpad.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



Hi Jed,



Did you make sure that the window is maximized?

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of
spending a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I
saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jed Barton <mailto:jedbarton@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@gmail.com> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never
use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed














Re: a big cursor problem

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Nope, it's not the touch pad, cause i'm using an external keyboard.
Any other ideas, this just doesn't make any sense. Could it be a
repair issue?
Nothing is obvious at all. The window is maximized as well.

On 11/18/18, Tim Ford <ttford@gmail.com> wrote:
This may be a long shot, but if your new laptop has a touchpad, you may be
grazing it when you do that keystroke combination. This happened to me
until I turned off the touchpad.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



Hi Jed,



Did you make sure that the window is maximized?

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I
saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jed Barton <mailto:jedbarton@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@gmail.com> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never
use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed